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Krazy Kids - ***Update: Nancy Grace Segment!!*** Party attendee writes open letter to The Patch

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Krazy Kids - ***Update: Nancy Grace Segment!!*** Party attendee writes open letter to The Patch

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Annnnnnnd It was on Nancy Grace

Nancy Grace Show


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This letter is just dripping with passive aggressive comments, & either plausible deniability that a lot of photographic proof was indeed leaked, contradicting her explanation. Oh, and Death threats? Gimme a break





Editor's note: The following letter to the editor was submitted by a woman who attended the controversial pajama party at Medford's Krazy Kidz last Saturday night. Patch has verified that she attended the party, but she asked that her name not be used "due to the fact that death threats have been issued to someone involved in with party already, for the safety and privacy of myself and my family I do not feel safe using my real name in relation to this issue."




This past Saturday night, I attended Krazy Kidz in Medford where they held a, now notorious, private party. The Flyer read: "Jungle Gym & Pajama Party All-Night Dance Party: For Grownups Who Won't GrowUp."

It was posted on Meetup.com and said to include pillow fights, crazy maze races, a Twister contest, body painters and performers as well as "warm-jello wrestling" and "things I probably shouldn't be putting in writing." It stated:

"The purpose of the party is to play like a kid! ...to be happy and carefree. This is just good clean wholesome fun ... There will be no orgy, smut, strippers, or lewd content ... however ... there will be tasteful nudity."

Immediately, controversial candid shots posted to a social media site, along with the above-mentioned flyer culminated in a perfect storm that went viral. This is as much about the power of social media sites such as Facebook, to share messages, inform, and unite people around a cause — as well as the danger of making assumptions without having all the facts — as it is about public nudity, child-safety concerns or anything else.

Unfortunately, the outrage of many who saw these images could have been harnessed to address the real problems our nation faces today — such as mass shootings, violent foreign policy and an abysmal economy where the middle-class finds it increasingly hard to make ends meet. Difficult financial times were in fact the reason behind Krazy Kidz seeking alternate revenue streams via private parties.

The party photos which reached the evening news on major network TV, featured women in shorts, pajamas, and pretty lingerie-inspired attire (and who were more covered-up than one would be at the beach) frolicking innocently on the jungle gym and on the dance floor.

For those who speculated on what kind of "performances" there were, the performers were fully clothed hoola-hoopers, and aerial artists who gracefully soared through the air.

Since news of the pajama party got out, their Facebook page has been barraged with negative comments from irate parents who now fear that children who play in Krazy Kidz may come into contact with certain unsavory bodily fluids or be stuck with a syringe.

Apparently the average suburban soccer mom (or little league dad) cannot comprehend the notion of non-sexualized nudity, or believe the fact that not everyone has the hang-ups they do about the human body in its natural state, and thus do not require drugs or heavy drinking in order to be nude or sporting "revealing" attire around a group of people. There was absolutely no drug use or smoking inside the venue during this night despite rumors to the contrary.

There were a few nudists who were hired as a "flash mob" for an artful impact, they stayed on the dance floor, did not use any of the equipment, and I did not even see any of them sitting down.

Perhaps, this performance art piece was still in questionable taste featured in an establishment that caters to children during the day, but it certainly wasn't part of any sex act, or meant for the purposes of titillation.

I would like to address another statement on the flyer, which may lead people to assume that there was hard partying going on at the event. The flyer stated that the party ends at 3 a.m. and that people were welcome to stay until 5 a.m. to rest up before driving.

The truth is that everyone left by 3 a.m. and therefore the staff had ample time to cleanup before they opened the next day at 11 a.m. The reason the flyer stated that people would not be asked to leave immediately was because it was a 21-and-over private party that was BYOB (bring your own beer), and there was some moderate drinking, by some, of beer, wine, or cocktails.

I did not see anyone that looked to be at all intoxicated, but just to be on the safe side, it was a good idea to give people a little extra time to make sure they were ok to drive, should they need it, none of which was necessary.

Would it really matter if the woman seen in the shot was truly naked or just wearing an "Eve costume?" I assure you that there was no one on any of the equipment that wasn't fully dressed.

This was not a sex party, a swingers party, a drug-fueled orgy, a bunch of pedophiles getting off on humping the bouncy house, or a Satanic Black Mass, or any of the other outlandish insinuations made by people with vivid, fevered imaginations. And to the dismay of some of the attendees, neither the Twister game or the hilariously evocative "warm-jello wrestling," mentioned on the overhyped flyer, ever took place.

The premise behind this innovative party was to facilitate a space for guests to be able to return to a place of innocence — but evidently there was no going back to the simplicity of childhood. The Garden of Eden has been destroyed.

Nudity is now perceived as the opposite of innocence, and public nakedness threatens to subvert the social order. This scares people. Obviously, this struck a deep chord with Middle America's puritanical roots, and beliefs about the inherent sinfulness of the body.

I went to this party to enjoy a carefree Saturday night in the company of a group of free-spirits, artists, and creative-types who wanted to find a safe haven, in which to convene, away from society's rigid boxes and judgmental gaze. Sadly, the exact opposite happened.

Now, a hard-working, tax-paying citizen may lose his business due to misguided hysteria, not to mention the public shaming of all the attendees. Some even received death threats from a lynch mob who just want "...their kids to be safe." This was a night of pizza, pillow fights, facepainting, dancing, and hoola-hooping. You tell me who the dangerous ones are; maybe the most dangerous elements of our society are driving children around in minivans.

We live in a pornified society, in which people can't imagine someone paying $40 to go to a place like this without the promise of a night of debauchery to rival that of ancient Rome. The truth is seldom as juicy as the fantasy.

I guess most people will never understand us, but I think this incident brought up a lot of interesting questions about what it means to be an adult, or a child, to be clean, or dirty, innocent, or abhorrent. Apparently one man's good, clean fun is another man's Sodom and Gomorrah.

I know you will choose to believe what you want, and I don't have false expectations of reaching any of you with my voice. History is full of the fury of the intolerant mob. But please remember that there are much more important things to rally against in this world besides pillow fights, and adults trying to have a bit of fun, while fostering a sense of community, in a world that can often be cold, cruel, hard, lonely and unforgiving, and in a life so bittersweet and fleeting.

If this is the worst thing that you have to worry about — consider yourself blessed.

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Posted 2/6/14 9:23 PM
 
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This was a night of pizza, pillow fights, facepainting, dancing, and hoola-hooping. You tell me who the dangerous ones are; maybe the most dangerous elements of our society are driving children around in


the worst thing that you have to worry about — consider yourself blessed.




Oh honestly give me a break. This event was not just the above. This person also stated it was BYOB and there was liquor at the party. Unless these people are all asexual, I highly doubt that this was entirely about being a "child". Bring a room full of young people, single people, booze and nudity, and I don't buy it was not sexual in any nature, for at least even a handful of people there. Why were women dressed up as sexy children, sexy nighties, etc? Why did liquor need to be allowed at ALL then, since they are trying to be children, and just have childlike fun? Don't you know, CHILDREN DON'T DRINK BOOZE. And why did the flash mob NEED to be nude? Give me a break again. Why couldn't it have been a clothed flash mob? I will say again, WHY did any of this need to occur at a child's play place? The flyer said plenty and along with the pictures, that is what people are going by.

Also…if it's true, why was the place WET for the child's party the next am?

They want to say it was ONLY good clean fun, childlike, but they want to run around naked, dress sexy AND allow liquor in. That sure sounds pretty adult to me. This person's letter is passive aggressive and contradictory all in one.Chat Icon

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Posted 2/6/14 9:53 PM
 

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This letter doesn't make it any better. It's still gross to me.

Posted 2/6/14 9:57 PM
 

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Re: Krazy Kids - Party attendee writes open letter to The Patch

Annnnnnnd It was on Nancy Grace

Nancy Grace Show

Posted 2/6/14 10:21 PM
 

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Annnnnnnd It was on Nancy Grace

Nancy Grace Show



EXACTLY. Bingo. No way sex/sexuality was NOT involved. No way. The flyer stated that and made that clear. If they wanted it just to be costume, like a Halloween party, they would not have discussed on the FLYER anything about sexy nighties, performers, tasteful nudity, etc. Anyone trying to back peddle or twist this is delusional b/c it's all pretty clear the root of this was to be sexual or sexy in nature, at a child's play place. GROSS.

I guess tasteful nudity to these people is some man's PENIS exposed in a child's play place. EFFN NASTY NASTY NASTYChat Icon

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Posted 2/6/14 10:28 PM
 

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Re: Krazy Kids - ***Update: Nancy Grace Segment!!*** Party attendee writes open letter to The Patch

I really don't understand all the outrage directed at this event. I personally don't care as I don't take my children to this type of place and obviously wouldn't take them to this specific place in the future. If people are upset by this they will do the same - end of story. This is not a school where your child HAS to go there. If we don't like what the owner did we won't patronize it. But why get upset about the whole thing? Why the moral indignation? It's a privately owned business and he can do with it what he likes and the public will respond with their wallets.

Posted 2/6/14 11:21 PM
 

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Posted by Jugglemom

I really don't understand all the outrage directed at this event. I personally don't care as I don't take my children to this type of place and obviously wouldn't take them to this specific place in the future. If people are upset by this they will do the same - end of story. This is not a school where your child HAS to go there. If we don't like what the owner did we won't patronize it. But why get upset about the whole thing? Why the moral indignation? It's a privately owned business and he can do with it what he likes and the public will respond with their wallets.




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I agree. The continued vilification is bordering on obsessive - I agree that it's inappropriate but it's not affecting my life in any way so I don't let it bother me.

Posted 2/7/14 7:20 AM
 

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Oh now these were artists that attended the party?!Chat Icon Chat Icon

And there were only adults who can control their liquor. No one was drunk nakedChat Icon and there was no smoking. Do the man with his stuff all out in the pic didnt have a cig in his mouth?! Please give me a break. Plus last I checked smoking inside was banned.

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Posted 2/7/14 7:42 AM
 

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Posted by Jugglemom

I really don't understand all the outrage directed at this event. I personally don't care as I don't take my children to this type of place and obviously wouldn't take them to this specific place in the future. If people are upset by this they will do the same - end of story. This is not a school where your child HAS to go there. If we don't like what the owner did we won't patronize it. But why get upset about the whole thing? Why the moral indignation? It's a privately owned business and he can do with it what he likes and the public will respond with their wallets.




Couldnt agree more. This is because people cant handle that not everyone feels the way they do and they try to shove their beliefs down everyones throat...

You dont like it dont go... like the letter says there much worse in the world to get this upset over ...

Posted 2/7/14 7:42 AM
 

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Re: Krazy Kids - ***Update: Nancy Grace Segment!!*** Party attendee writes open letter to The Patch

I'm pretty sure my family member went to a private party at another very popular kids place... A bounce house.

There was no nakedness, but it was an adult, night bounce party as a fundraiser.

A party with alcohol and nakedness is just the next step...

Personally, I find it kinda funny...

Posted 2/7/14 8:39 AM
 

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What adult wants to pillow fight and not have that lead to sex?? I wouldn't go to a party dressed in lingerie and pillow fight with co-ed strangers, not expecting them to be expecting something... you know what I mean?

Posted 2/7/14 9:00 AM
 

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Krazy Kids - ***Update: Nancy Grace Segment!!*** Party attendee writes open letter to The Patch

I saw this on my local news in FL. I can't believe this is national news.

Posted 2/7/14 9:05 AM
 

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Posted by Jugglemom

I really don't understand all the outrage directed at this event. I personally don't care as I don't take my children to this type of place and obviously wouldn't take them to this specific place in the future. If people are upset by this they will do the same - end of story. This is not a school where your child HAS to go there. If we don't like what the owner did we won't patronize it. But why get upset about the whole thing? Why the moral indignation? It's a privately owned business and he can do with it what he likes and the public will respond with their wallets.




Because if it wasn't for the photos leaked online NO ONE would have known about it. That is where so much of the outrage is coming from. It's just as much about the gross adult nakedness - hello snail trail on the slide - as it is about the drugs that WERE THERE. One lost ecstasy pill that a small baby finds and a family's life is changed forever.

I don't understand why no one is looking at the big picture here. This is a big deal, more because of the drugs than the nakedness.

Posted 2/7/14 10:22 AM
 

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Krazy Kids - ***Update: Nancy Grace Segment!!*** Party attendee writes open letter to The Patch

I've never taken my son to this place but I have taken him to similar indoor play places. Whenever I bring him to one of these places, I am concerned about cleanliness because he is a toddler and puts everything in his mouth. Normal kid germs are one thing. He's in daycare, obviously he's exposed to lots of germs. But like the PP said, what about drugs and alcohol? And whatever other gross things they may have been doing.

I'm not in a tizzy over this because I haven't been there myself. But I will say if I had paid a buttload of money for my kid's bday party there and found out they were doing this stuff at night, I'd be furious. I understand where those parents are coming from. Bottom line, there are plenty of other indoor play places to take my son to and I definitely won't be going to this one.

Posted 2/7/14 10:40 AM
 

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Posted by Jugglemom

I really don't understand all the outrage directed at this event. I personally don't care as I don't take my children to this type of place and obviously wouldn't take them to this specific place in the future. If people are upset by this they will do the same - end of story. This is not a school where your child HAS to go there. If we don't like what the owner did we won't patronize it. But why get upset about the whole thing? Why the moral indignation? It's a privately owned business and he can do with it what he likes and the public will respond with their wallets.




Because if it wasn't for the photos leaked online NO ONE would have known about it. That is where so much of the outrage is coming from. It's just as much about the gross adult nakedness - hello snail trail on the slide - as it is about the drugs that WERE THERE. One lost ecstasy pill that a small baby finds and a family's life is changed forever.

I don't understand why no one is looking at the big picture here. This is a big deal, more because of the drugs than the nakedness.



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ITA I'm glad this is being brought to the public attention so they can make the choice to respond with their wallets. I've never been there and I never will because of this.

Posted 2/7/14 10:42 AM
 

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Krazy Kids - ***Update: Nancy Grace Segment!!*** Party attendee writes open letter to The Patch

I can guarantee you ecstasy & prob other drugs have probably entered that establishment way before this party,assuming there was even drugs at this party.

So many people take ecstasy/Molly and consider it a recreational drug like weed.

I still think it's getting blown way out of proportion.

Eta: or it's not that big of deal to drive yourself crazy about. I'm more concerned about my DS passing his sight word test than if my local bouncy house is having a swingers party. Chances are if a place is seedy and shady, it's going to start reflecting in their appearance.

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Posted 2/7/14 10:44 AM
 

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Krazy Kids - ***Update: Nancy Grace Segment!!*** Party attendee writes open letter to The Patch

personally i don't care this event actually happened but to have it at a child play gym is just stupid. plenty of parties like this at fire island and in the city and they don't get killed for having it because it's not a child's area.

Posted 2/7/14 10:54 AM
 

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Because if it wasn't for the photos leaked online NO ONE would have known about it. That is where so much of the outrage is coming from. It's just as much about the gross adult nakedness - hello snail trail on the slide - as it is about the drugs that WERE THERE. One lost ecstasy pill that a small baby finds and a family's life is changed forever.

I don't understand why no one is looking at the big picture here. This is a big deal, more because of the drugs than the nakedness.



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I don't get how people keep saying no big deal. I honestly could care less about the kind of party they had. Sounds fun, I guess. What my issue is, is the venue. A kids bounce house should be just that, a KIDS bounce house. That is what it is advertised as and that is what you pay for. If they advertised it as a kids play place in the am and a parents party place at night, I would not bring kids there. It is in noway comparable to my bedroom or a hotel room bc ppl have sex there. i know going to a hotel, maybe not so nice things were done there andd i still choose to stay.My bedroom may very well be where my kids were concieved, but I know neither my dh or I have any communicable diseases. The fact is, sex or no sex, drugs or no drugs, these things should be disclosed when I make a decision to allow my kids to slide down a slide or play in the ball pits. It is a big deal TO ME. And everyone who is ok with it keeps sayingthe ones who are not are prude or are forcing their opinion on others. Seems the forcing of opinions goes both ways.

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I don't get how people keep saying no big deal. I honestly could care less about the kind of party they had. Sounds fun, I guess. What my issue is, is the venue. A kids bounce house should be just that, a KIDS bounce house. That is what it is advertised as and that is what you pay for. If they advertised it as a kids play place in the am and a parents party place at night, I would not bring kids there. It is in noway comparable to my bedroom or a hotel room bc ppl have sex there. i know going to a hotel, maybe not so nice things were done there andd i still choose to stay.My bedroom may very well be where my kids were concieved, but I know neither my dh or I have any communicable diseases. The fact is, sex or no sex, drugs or no drugs, these things should be disclosed when I make a decision to allow my kids to slide down a slide or play in the ball pits. It is a big deal TO ME. And everyone who is ok with it keeps sayingthe ones who are not are prude or are forcing their opinion on others. Seems the forcing of opinions goes both ways.


Exactly. This issue is really disturbing me b/c as you said, since it's not advertised as this type of place, parents unknowingly patronize a place that holds functions that they don't feel are appropriate for there. At a hotel, park, etc, you know various other things can go on. No one expects it at a child's play place. And I too would NEVER take my DC to play in a place that holds these type of adult parties.

Posted 2/7/14 11:41 AM
 

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Posted by wakemeup

Posted by Jugglemom

I really don't understand all the outrage directed at this event. I personally don't care as I don't take my children to this type of place and obviously wouldn't take them to this specific place in the future. If people are upset by this they will do the same - end of story. This is not a school where your child HAS to go there. If we don't like what the owner did we won't patronize it. But why get upset about the whole thing? Why the moral indignation? It's a privately owned business and he can do with it what he likes and the public will respond with their wallets.




Because if it wasn't for the photos leaked online NO ONE would have known about it. That is where so much of the outrage is coming from. It's just as much about the gross adult nakedness - hello snail trail on the slide - as it is about the drugs that WERE THERE. One lost ecstasy pill that a small baby finds and a family's life is changed forever.

I don't understand why no one is looking at the big picture here. This is a big deal, more because of the drugs than the nakedness.




I understand but think about all the things that happen at places that you may frequent on a regular bad is that you may not know about either. You could just as easily find a pill (be it ecstasy, an anxiety med or even blood pressure med- all of which could be potentially fatal to a child) in any hotel room. Heck, my nephew was in a hospital room visiting a relative and found a pill on the floor and was about to put it in his mouth. Is the situation skeevy - of course it is - I do not contest that. Perhaps it is because I am a natural skeptic but I never trust anyplace like this - they are all Petri dishes which is why I don't take my kids there. And ball pits? Completely out of the question! They have found hypodermic needles in ball pits before. People have affairs on school desks even! The fact that one may not expect something like this to happen does not mean it doesn't and stuff like this probably happens more often than we know about.

Eta: several of the well know bounce places on LI always used to advertise (don't know about now after this mess) on their party page availability for adult birthday parties, corporate events and bachelor parties in the evenings. It may not have been this type of party specifically but I am sure that drinking, drugs and hooking up did occur at these parties as well. I know of at least one person who had an fault birthday party at one.

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Re: Krazy Kids - ***Update: Nancy Grace Segment!!*** Party attendee writes open letter to The Patch

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Posted by Jugglemom

I really don't understand all the outrage directed at this event. I personally don't care as I don't take my children to this type of place and obviously wouldn't take them to this specific place in the future. If people are upset by this they will do the same - end of story. This is not a school where your child HAS to go there. If we don't like what the owner did we won't patronize it. But why get upset about the whole thing? Why the moral indignation? It's a privately owned business and he can do with it what he likes and the public will respond with their wallets.




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I agree. The continued vilification is bordering on obsessive - I agree that it's inappropriate but it's not affecting my life in any way so I don't let it bother me.

Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon I couldn't agree more.

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Posted by Kitten1929

Posted by Jugglemom

I really don't understand all the outrage directed at this event. I personally don't care as I don't take my children to this type of place and obviously wouldn't take them to this specific place in the future. If people are upset by this they will do the same - end of story. This is not a school where your child HAS to go there. If we don't like what the owner did we won't patronize it. But why get upset about the whole thing? Why the moral indignation? It's a privately owned business and he can do with it what he likes and the public will respond with their wallets.




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I agree. The continued vilification is bordering on obsessive - I agree that it's inappropriate but it's not affecting my life in any way so I don't let it bother me.

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yeah I have to agree.

I can't help but think at least you know now. I wonder if other places haven't done the same. How can you know really. Even if its not a party, what if its just the employees using the stuff for other reasons? Taking sex and drugs off the table, what if its a puking kid with the flu or something? I don't think it was appropriate but I think I'd be ready to move on at this point. Don't like it, don't go there or other places like it really.

Posted 2/7/14 1:24 PM
 

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Krazy Kids - ***Update: Nancy Grace Segment!!*** Party attendee writes open letter to The Patch

I saw that letter last night, and I have a feeling one of the attendees reads this site based on some of what she was saying. I also find it strange that another attendee confirmed that naked men were using the hula hoops (8 of them), but this one says they were only on the dance floor.

Posted 2/7/14 1:38 PM
 

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Krazy Kids - ***Update: Nancy Grace Segment!!*** Party attendee writes open letter to The Patch

Also, all the people saying it's fine, there is nothing wrong with this. Would you be okay if your child's pre-school or daycare rented out their space for adult parties after hours?

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