Re: Can you talk me into breastfeeding

I suggest reading "The Womanly Art of Breastfeeding" it really helped me in my decision to pump after I was not able to successfully BF.

DISCLAIMER: The usage of the word "womanly" is from the authors of the afore mentioned book. I, in no way, feel that BFing is more or less womanly than formula feeding.

Re: Can you talk me into breastfeeding

Posted by Tilde

I suggest reading "The Womanly Art of Breastfeeding" it really helped me in my decision to pump after I was not able to successfully BF.

DISCLAIMER: The usage of the word "womanly" is from the authors of the afore mentioned book. I, in no way, feel that BFing is more or less womanly than formula feeding.

Re: Can you talk me into breastfeeding

Posted by Tilde

I suggest reading "The Womanly Art of Breastfeeding" it really helped me in my decision to pump after I was not able to successfully BF.

DISCLAIMER: The usage of the word "womanly" is from the authors of the afore mentioned book. I, in no way, feel that BFing is more or less womanly than formula feeding.

Re: Can you talk me into breastfeeding

YOU need to do what YOU want to do... Can't be talked into something like that... Don't listen to some of the cr@p that people are going to say... It is YOUR decision..

Message edited 8/14/2011 4:53:51 PM.

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oK, if you were not 100% into bfing why even open and respond to this post? And then have the nerve to attack posters who actually try to talk the op into BFing like the OP wanted?!?!?! Its called being persuasive...

Lets face it, whether its what you want to hear or not, experts recommend BFing! It even SAYS SO on FORMULA CANS! I feel bad for women who try to BF and can not, but at least they can say that they tried but had to do what was BEST FOR THEIR BABY! I do not think formula is in any way bad or harmful, but I do know BM is better.

I also dont think that hospitals and some peds promote bfing enough...the fact that the nurse at the hospital forced me to take home formula even after I insisted I was ebfing is proof of this! I think more women would be successful if they got better support!

To the OP: I have an udder cover and its not bulky at all! I keep it in my diaper bag and it covers EVERYTHING while I BF out! I love My Breast Friend but didnt use it in the beginning. I also sometimes use the boppy or whatever pillow is available! You could def try bfing before purchasing these! I also did not use the pump until DD was 6 weeks! Good Luck! (And def check out the Womanly Art of BFing).

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Re: Can you talk me into breastfeeding

Posted by Porrruss

Posted by Tilde

I suggest reading "The Womanly Art of Breastfeeding" it really helped me in my decision to pump after I was not able to successfully BF.

DISCLAIMER: The usage of the word "womanly" is from the authors of the afore mentioned book. I, in no way, feel that BFing is more or less womanly than formula feeding.

Not to be confused with "The Manly Art of Motorboating"......

Re: Can you talk me into breastfeeding

Posted by Goobster

Posted by itsbabytime

So this kind of argument "get over yourself and your magical BM" - what do you even mean by that and can you see how that would be completely the opp of what you should be posting on this thread? And, honestly, maybe you need to say the same thing to all the doctors, nurses, hosptials, peds and the formula companies themselves (that clearly display BM is best on their bottles) that all push BM over FF. I guess they need to get over themselves too?

But see, I said that to the women who BF who make it very clear that they believe they or their child will be superior in some form (health or intelligence) and actually go as far as to say that a FF child can suffer even into old age? That's insanity. I guess anyone can believe what they want, but I can't sit back and have my friend be talked into BF by THAT statement. I felt compelled to reply just as many others did. So I didn't say it to everyone who BF, to be very clear. It's one thing to do what's best for you, but it's another to imply others HARMED their child. That's just wrong and if someone posts something so insensitive and harsh as what Grill wrote, then they are the people I am referring to (again, not you or all BFers) with this statement.

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Posted by Goobster

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Posted by Porrruss

Posted by Goobster

Posted by itsbabytime

So this kind of argument "get over yourself and your magical BM" - what do you even mean by that and can you see how that would be completely the opp of what you should be posting on this thread? And, honestly, maybe you need to say the same thing to all the doctors, nurses, hosptials, peds and the formula companies themselves (that clearly display BM is best on their bottles) that all push BM over FF. I guess they need to get over themselves too?

But see, I said that to the women who BF who make it very clear that they believe they or their child will be superior in some form (health or intelligence) and actually go as far as to say that a FF child can suffer even into old age? That's insanity. I guess anyone can believe what they want, but I can't sit back and have my friend be talked into BF by THAT statement. I felt compelled to reply just as many others did. So I didn't say it to everyone who BF, to be very clear. It's one thing to do what's best for you, but it's another to imply others HARMED their child. That's just wrong and if someone posts something so insensitive and harsh as what Grill wrote, then they are the people I am referring to (again, not you or all BFers) with this statement.

But don't you think that citing "articles" that say that BFing causes allergies and asthma is just as insensitive? I get that what Grill said was harsh (but she said it's her *stance*- she didn't say it was fact), but you were just as wrong as far as I'm concerned......

I simply replied to what Grill wrote and was making the point that you can find many studies for and against FF or BF. I don't think it's reasonable to expect someone to post something so harsh AND inaccurate and not expect replies.

I would never have replied anything on this thread for any response other than Grill's. Please don't make it sound like I just came on to sway Denise into NOT BF, or as if I came on and started posting links to studies that I read, that show the correlation of certain negatives associated with BF.

In fact, after my first reply to Grill's, I want it to be known, Grill FMed me to ask me what studies I was referring to and in her FM to me, once again stated (knowing I FF) that a BF child would score higher on IQ testing and would be better equipped to fight disease. So I sent her the studies "I" read (did not post them on here), b/c she asked for them. Yes, various studies do exist.

You have a right to think what you want, of course. But I stated what so many others clearly replied to and were annoyed at. Only I then made the point that there are plenty of studies that show positives AND negatives associated with BF. But surely I would have never said BOO if it were not for Grill's harsh statement about formula harming a person into old age. That statement was pretty much the main one that ANYONE and everyone on here that had a problem, had a problem with.

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Posted by itsbabytime

Posted by Goobster

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Posted by Porrruss

Posted by Goobster

Posted by itsbabytime

So this kind of argument "get over yourself and your magical BM" - what do you even mean by that and can you see how that would be completely the opp of what you should be posting on this thread? And, honestly, maybe you need to say the same thing to all the doctors, nurses, hosptials, peds and the formula companies themselves (that clearly display BM is best on their bottles) that all push BM over FF. I guess they need to get over themselves too?

But see, I said that to the women who BF who make it very clear that they believe they or their child will be superior in some form (health or intelligence) and actually go as far as to say that a FF child can suffer even into old age? That's insanity. I guess anyone can believe what they want, but I can't sit back and have my friend be talked into BF by THAT statement. I felt compelled to reply just as many others did. So I didn't say it to everyone who BF, to be very clear. It's one thing to do what's best for you, but it's another to imply others HARMED their child. That's just wrong and if someone posts something so insensitive and harsh as what Grill wrote, then they are the people I am referring to (again, not you or all BFers) with this statement.

But don't you think that citing "articles" that say that BFing causes allergies and asthma is just as insensitive? I get that what Grill said was harsh (but she said it's her *stance*- she didn't say it was fact), but you were just as wrong as far as I'm concerned......

I simply replied to what Grill wrote and was making the point that you can find many studies for and against FF or BF. I don't think it's reasonable to expect someone to post something so harsh AND inaccurate and not expect replies.

I would never have replied anything on this thread for any response other than Grill's. Please don't make it sound like I just came on to sway Denise into NOT BF, or as if I came on and started posting links to studies that I read, that show the correlation of certain negatives associated with BF.

In fact, after my first reply to Grill's, I want it to be known, Grill FMed me to ask me what studies I was referring to and in her FM to me, once again stated (knowing I FF) that a BF child would score higher on IQ testing and would be better equipped to fight disease. So I sent her the studies "I" read (did not post them on here), b/c she asked for them. Yes, various studies do exist.

You have a right to think what you want, of course. But I stated what so many others clearly replied to and were annoyed at. Only I then made the point that there are plenty of studies that show positives AND negatives associated with BF. But surely I would have never said BOO if it were not for Grill's harsh statement about formula harming a person into old age. That statement was pretty much the main one that ANYONE and everyone on here that had a problem, had a problem with.

Hey - I'm curious to see this research as well. Can you FM me as well if it's not too annoying? THis is the first I ever heard that there is research against BF.

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Well I see there is a bit of drama, but I hope my response doesn't get lost in the shuffle.

DS1 I tried bf but it just wasn't for me at the time. I was finishing my degree and him refusing to latch and my dh family saying negatives about bf while my family was pushing it on me. I pumped for as long as possible but it was maybe 8 weeks but I think only 6. I was distraught over it, I felt like I didn't try hard enough for him, but he is now 2.5 and friggen amazing!! The smartest, fastest boy around and I wouldn't change it for the world, my husband also loved that he could feed him..

DD2 she is now 13 months and is ebf and has never had a bottle or an ounce of formula. Is she smart and just as fast as my boy, you bet! Did I want to pull my dh hair out bc it was all on me, all the time? Yes!! But that bond, that wonderful nursing bond is something that you must try to experience, if you can! I couldn't with my son and it doesn't mean I don't have as good as a bond with him, that's not the case. I just mean that she is my chunka bc of mee! She finds extreme comfort from my arms, I love this special time with her, it just means so much to me. Ohh and my daughter who's ebf gets sick way more than my ff son lol. It's a crap shoot, I believe!

Anyways, I say try it!! It doesn't hurt to try it, you can always go to ff at any time. While I don't see a difference in what milk the baby is fed, either way they will be the best baby they are meant to be with love and some food lol. I just feel like for YOU try it, because I don't regret trying with my daughter, but I do regret giving up so easily with my son, kwim? I hate the feeling of what if, so I feel like if you at least try since your thinking about it, either way you can't let yourself down. You either try it and it works or doesn't work, and then you can't ever second guess yourself!

Oh and totally easier with boob than bottles, once you pass the first couple weeks you will be amazed how truly easier it is. And for now get the free hooter hidder lol, but if you wish to keep going invest in a peanut shell, seriously was great, nobody ever knew unless they were a nursing mom too lol. Goodluck with whatever you decide and I hope whatever it is works the best for you and ur new family!

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Give it a try but dont put too much pressure on yourself.

I assumed I would Bf, by day 2 in the hospital I felt like a failure. I was exhausted, trying to get her to latch & having her fall asleep was frustrating to me. I was ready to give up. My sister showed up who breastfed all 4 babies. She said, " dont give up. She is getting enough milk, she is soo tiny. She is not starving. Keep at it!"

Honestly, that little pep talk kept me going. We made it until 8 months when my supply disappeared. I'm so proud of those 8 months. DD goes to daycare and is NEVER sick. I dont know if BM had anything to do with that, but i think it may have.

The first few weeks are HARD. it takes a HUGE commitment not to drop out at that point. But once you get the hang of things it is sooo easy.

My son I was only able to BF for 4 months. my supply completely tanked, not sure why. The cost of formula,
all the bottle cleaning, having to stumble around the kitchen at 3am and make a bottle killed me!!
I always thought formula feeding was easier, but I dont think so now!!

Supplement with a bottle of formula a day if you need to. I did. I needed 1 feeding where I could sit on the couch & relax. DH did that 7pm feeding.

Give it a shot! You'll never regret trying something .Even if it doesnt work out.

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I think you should really give it your best shot. Make the commitment and dont look back. If you want more convincing or support please FM me anytime.

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I don't even know what to say on this thread.

all I can say is to give it a try. there are many wonderful things about nursing. you can always stop if you don't like it, but you can't get the opportunity back if you regret it later.

it is so hard in the beginning but if you can stick it out it is the craziest most awesome thing ever!!!

I am not going to bother with the other debate going on, b/c at the end of the day all that really matters is that our kids are happy healthy and FED.

Good luck with everything!!!!! and just think of your nursing sessions as much needed alone time with your newborn. you've had a few years with DD #1. I see nothing wrong with dedicating some time to #2!!!!!!