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05mommy09
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Do you think a person who is bulimic can heal themself???

Meaning, that they can one day just stop, put the weight back on and totally be healed, without every seeking help from a doctor or therapist??

A friend of mine, was very bulimic, she went from over 200lbs to 120lbs in a little less than a year.... she looked horrible....

Since meeting her new boyfriend...she has put a decent amount of weight back on, and looks healthy (she's even got a few extra lbs on). I think her current relationship has made her feel good, and brought back up her self esteem.... hence not making her wanna lose the weight....

However- part of my believes alot of bulmia is mental, and I just dont see how she is "healed" being that she never seeked any professional help...

She just recently foung out shes pregnant... and although she is ecstatic, and swear she'd never go back to her old ways.... I cant help but worry she will resort back.... I am concerned that since she never worked through her feelings- that she will have a sort of relapse....


So whats you opinion.... Can people with anorexia/bulimia wake up one day and say I feel good about myself, and quit cold turkey?? Or do you feel that- regardless if they stop for awhile or not, those feelings are still there, and are bound to reappear once again?

Posted 6/12/06 7:00 AM
 
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Re: Bulimia

If my understanding of the disease is correct it is more of a psychological/mental thing about control rather than a food thing.

Posted 6/12/06 7:06 AM
 

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you are right to be concerned. Unless she deals with the underlying issues, something at some point will trigger those issues and behavior. Chat Icon for your friend

Posted 6/12/06 7:16 AM
 

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Personally - no. An eating disorder creates a vicious circle and becomes a way of life. I firmly believe therapy is an integral part of recovery.

Posted 6/12/06 7:47 AM
 

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Posted by ODonnell

Personally - no. An eating disorder creates a vicious circle and becomes a way of life. I firmly believe therapy is an integral part of recovery.



I agree with this 100%. And it WILL come out in other ways. My mother is bulimic. She gained 80lbs with her pregnancy to my sister, and it wasn't until years later, and even after therapy, that she started to binge and purge again. I think it's a cycle. Even to this day, she struggles with it. It has taken on a very different form, though, and she readily admits that she still has issues with it. You are very right to be concerned Marisa, however, sadly, there's really nothing anyone else but her can do to control it.Chat Icon I wish her luck, thoughChat Icon

Posted 6/12/06 8:04 AM
 

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i agree w/ all the above posters.

i used to be bulimic although i no longer binge and purge i still struggle mentally w/ my weight. i am by no means overweight but the fear of gaining weight scares me. i eat what i want and often do not make the most healthiest food decisions but i am able to contol my weight by the amount that i eat. i am comfortable w/ my weight but still have body issues. it is definetly a very strong power that is often hard to rationalize.

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Posted 6/12/06 8:16 AM
 

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I think you are right to be concerned. But I do think that a rare few, with strong discipline and will power CAN heal themselves. Generally speaking though, no, I would think therapy is necessary otherwise, like others have said - she may be okay for now, but it is a cycle and it will come back.

Posted 6/12/06 9:07 AM
 

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Posted by ODonnell

Personally - no. An eating disorder creates a vicious circle and becomes a way of life. I firmly believe therapy is an integral part of recovery.



I agree with this.

Posted 6/12/06 9:18 AM
 

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Re: Bulimia

YES...they certainly can...

But other issues can and most probably will arise to take the place of the Bulimia...

So it is always best to speak to someone...

Bulimia is IMO a way of expressing inner termoil...that turmoil can be VERY different person to person...

But ultimately bulimia is a means to dealing with with what is at the root of the problem...

SO although a person can stop the eating disorder part...that doesn't mean by any means that they are ok. Or that they will not do other self destructive things to help them deal...

It is a vicious cycle.....but not necessarily a eating disorder soley!

Posted 6/12/06 6:50 PM
 

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Posted by Princessmaris

A friend of mine, was very bulimic, she went from over 200lbs to 120lbs in a little less than a year.... she looked horrible....
So whats you opinion.... Can people with anorexia/bulimia wake up one day and say I feel good about myself, and quit cold turkey?? Or do you feel that- regardless if they stop for awhile or not, those feelings are still there, and are bound to reappear once again?



are you sure she is bulimic and not anorexic?

Because usually not a lot of weight is lost by a bulimic...

and also...those feelings are ALWAYS there....

even after all the therapy, after all the help...

It is like an addiction...the thoughts will always be with you...

Posted 6/12/06 6:52 PM
 

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Re: Bulimia

My sister had anorexia when she was young. She went for help, but continued to see a therapist after she was hospitalized. It was an uphill battle. Then she started dating this guy. He made her feel so good about herself that she got even better. He had a hugely positive role in her recovery. A big part of eating disorders is that the person is depressed or doesn't feel worthy. If someone in their life can help them out of that, like a boyfriend, husband.....that is great. My sister has been fine ever since. She is still thin, but athletic thin, not scary thin.

I think your friend is in a good place right now. If she is happy with her life, there is no reason to start going backwards. There is always a chance she could. If that behavior starts again, then she needs to see a therapist. These diseases effect everyone in different ways. It's so hard to deal with. Chat Icon

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Posted 6/12/06 7:00 PM
 

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Re: Bulimia

I believe is like everything else, if she realizes she has a problem, and it's taking steps to do correct that problem, anything is possible.

Posted 6/12/06 7:02 PM
 

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Posted by babybug631

My sister had anorexia when she was young. She went for help, but continued to see a therapist after she was hospitalized. It was an uphill battle. Then she started dating this guy. He made her feel so good about herself that she got even better. He had a hugely positive role in her recovery. A big part of eating disorders is that the person is depressed or doesn't feel worthy. If someone in their life can help them out of that, like a boyfriend, husband.....that is great. My sister has been fine ever since. She is still thin, but athletic thin, not scary thin.



See this i htink isn't the best of moves...

I think that it is great that he has this positive role in her life...but i think that a big part of anorexia is self esteem...

But someone has to feel that their are "worthy" by themselves...because in the event that the"supportive person" is no longer...ther person slips right back into old ways...

Posted 6/12/06 7:03 PM
 

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Re: Bulimia

Posted by Redhead

Posted by babybug631

My sister had anorexia when she was young. She went for help, but continued to see a therapist after she was hospitalized. It was an uphill battle. Then she started dating this guy. He made her feel so good about herself that she got even better. He had a hugely positive role in her recovery. A big part of eating disorders is that the person is depressed or doesn't feel worthy. If someone in their life can help them out of that, like a boyfriend, husband.....that is great. My sister has been fine ever since. She is still thin, but athletic thin, not scary thin.



See this i htink isn't the best of moves...

I think that it is great that he has this positive role in her life...but i think that a big part of anorexia is self esteem...

But someone has to feel that their are "worthy" by themselves...because in the event that the"supportive person" is no longer...ther person slips right back into old ways...



In my sister's case, she broke-up with that guy a long time ago. She didn't revert back to the way she was. She has a more healthy way of dealing with her body, like exercising and eating right. I KNOW my sis will never be fat again. But I also believe that she has come to terms with herself and is happy with who she is. Her eating disorder at it's peak was 11 years ago. It will always be a part of her life. Thru years of therapy and a family to back her up she got thru it. It's different for everybody.

Posted 6/12/06 7:09 PM
 

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Posted by babybug631
In my sister's case, she broke-up with that guy a long time ago. She didn't revert back to the way she was. She has a more healthy way of dealing with her body, like exercising and eating right. I KNOW my sis will never be fat again. But I also believe that she has come to terms with herself and is happy with who she is. Her eating disorder at it's peak was 11 years ago. It will always be a part of her life. Thru years of therapy and a family to back her up she got thru it. It's different for everybody.



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Posted 6/12/06 7:13 PM
 

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Re: Bulimia

Im POSITIVE she is bulimic...

I have caught her throwing up so many many times.... when shes caught me with my ear to the door, all she says is something stupid like:

Im making room for desertChat Icon

This all started while she was in a very very bad relationship... and like babybugs sister.... its stopped ever since she met her current boyfriend....

Again- I am pretty sure she is no longer throwing up after she eats... but right now she is happy with her body, and happy with her life...

Im just wondering how things will be after she starts packing on those prego lbs.

Posted 6/12/06 7:39 PM
 

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I have a friend who has an eating disorder and can tell you that she has gone through extensive therapy to get better. Its just like any addiction.. you are never one day magically cured.. its a work in progress always and must be worked at all the time. I too worry one day when my friend becomes pregnant that she won't relapse because of the weight gain. Its a very sad and serious disease. Chat Icon Chat Icon 's for your friend!

Posted 6/12/06 7:40 PM
 

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Like- when her and I discussed this...

She makes it sound like (and it seems like) she just puked after every meal to get down to the weight she wanted to be.... once she got there, shes done... and not gonna throw up anymore...

She makes it sound like a diet..... and thats just not possible...

Posted 6/12/06 7:50 PM
 

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Posted by Princessmaris

Im POSITIVE she is bulimic...

I have caught her throwing up so many many times.... when shes caught me with my ear to the door, all she says is something stupid like:

Im making room for desertChat Icon

This all started while she was in a very very bad relationship... and like babybugs sister.... its stopped ever since she met her current boyfriend....

Again- I am pretty sure she is no longer throwing up after she eats... but right now she is happy with her body, and happy with her life...

Im just wondering how things will be after she starts packing on those prego lbs.




well....all i know is that each person is different..

there are also different types of anorxia and bulimia...

like i said...usually bulimics in the general sense of the word wil not lost that much weight...

And in all honesty....maybe now that she is PG she isn't or wouldn't throw up..
but that doesn't mean she isn't
Babybugs' sisn't went for HELP....

and AGAIN....like i said someone may be able to stop on their own...but that doesn't mean it won't manifest in other ways

Posted 6/12/06 7:51 PM
 

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Posted by dottiemchugh

I have a friend who has an eating disorder and can tell you that she has gone through extensive therapy to get better. Its just like any addiction.. you are never one day magically cured.. its a work in progress always and must be worked at all the time. I too worry one day when my friend becomes pregnant that she won't relapse because of the weight gain. Its a very sad and serious disease. Chat Icon Chat Icon 's for your friend!



VERY TRUE!

The urge doesn't just "go away"

there is no magical cure

Posted 6/12/06 7:52 PM
 

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Re: Bulimia

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Posted by Princessmaris

Im POSITIVE she is bulimic...

I have caught her throwing up so many many times.... when shes caught me with my ear to the door, all she says is something stupid like:

Im making room for desertChat Icon

This all started while she was in a very very bad relationship... and like babybugs sister.... its stopped ever since she met her current boyfriend....

Again- I am pretty sure she is no longer throwing up after she eats... but right now she is happy with her body, and happy with her life...

Im just wondering how things will be after she starts packing on those prego lbs.




well....all i know is that each person is different..

there are also different types of anorxia and bulimia...

like i said...usually bulimics in the general sense of the word wil not lost that much weight...

And in all honesty....maybe now that she is PG she isn't or wouldn't throw up..
but that doesn't mean she isn't
Babybugs' sisn't went for HELP....

and AGAIN....like i said someone may be able to stop on their own...but that doesn't mean it won't manifest in other ways



Im not disagreeing with you... hence the reason Im concerned...

Posted 6/12/06 7:57 PM
 

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Well if i were you i would just be ther as a friend..

For the most part the disease is well hidden from others...
as well as what it might manifest into...

i would hope that being PG she wouldn't go back to old ways...

But she may find other outlets for her stress/anxieties...

So what would be best for her is that you are there to listen...

Posted 6/12/06 8:02 PM
 

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Posted by Redhead

Well if i were you i would just be ther as a friend..

For the most part the disease is well hidden from others...
as well as what it might manifest into...

i would hope that being PG she wouldn't go back to old ways...

But she may find other outlets for her stress/anxieties...

So what would be best for her is that you are there to listen...



Ya know- this just hit me- while reading your post....

As I said before since she started dating this guy- she has stopped throwing up.... however she DID develop a serious addiction to pain killers.... She has serious back issues, and needs major surgery- so the DR.'s had her on some heavy duty pills...

Well I think between needing them because of pain, as well, as no longer throwing up she started taking her stress out... but taking these pills..... (Of course she swears she dosent have a problem... but when you start going to walk in clincs and saying you dont have ins. and paying outta pocket- just to see a different DR. and a different pharmacy so you could get more pills... sounds like a porblem to me..) Now she says she dumped her pills, and I wanna believe she has (I mean she isnt acting like she is taking them...where as I use to know the minute I heard her voice)
But this all ties into your post...


She has been my BF since we were kids.... and I just wanna help her, and Im very very worried for this unborn baby! I just keep saying this is all part of Gods plan... so its gonna be ok...Chat Icon

Posted 6/12/06 8:10 PM
 

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Posted by Redhead

Well if i were you i would just be ther as a friend..

For the most part the disease is well hidden from others...
as well as what it might manifest into...

i would hope that being PG she wouldn't go back to old ways...

But she may find other outlets for her stress/anxieties...

So what would be best for her is that you are there to listen...



Ya know- this just hit me- while reading your post....

As I said before since she started dating this guy- she has stopped throwing up.... however she DID develop a serious addiction to pain killers.... She has serious back issues, and needs major surgery- so the DR.'s had her on some heavy duty pills...

Well I think between needing them because of pain, as well, as no longer throwing up she started taking her stress out... but taking these pills..... (Of course she swears she dosent have a problem... but when you start going to walk in clincs and saying you dont have ins. and paying outta pocket- just to see a different DR. and a different pharmacy so you could get more pills... sounds like a porblem to me..) Now she says she dumped her pills, and I wanna believe she has (I mean she isnt acting like she is taking them...where as I use to know the minute I heard her voice)
But this all ties into your post...


She has been my BF since we were kids.... and I just wanna help her, and Im very very worried for this unborn baby! I just keep saying this is all part of Gods plan... so its gonna be ok...Chat Icon



well i speak from experience...just being there for her is the best thing you can do for your friend and her baby...

And i would hope that some sort of restraint would be taken on your friends part...

but in all honesty...i can't imagine even starting that without some sort of help. Someone to talk to about this...

Just be there...and watch her. Pain Killers are a big one. Alcohol is another...

But lets hope for her childs sake...she puts her issues on the back burner
If anything...you might see it resurface AFTER she gives birth!


Also..a lot of the time an eating disorder has more to do with dealing with stress than the actual weightloss

so i wouldn't be worried soo much about her being concerned with the weight gain..

Message edited 6/12/2006 8:20:12 PM.

Posted 6/12/06 8:18 PM
 

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Re: Bulimia

The thing is she never admits to it.... and now that we no longer work together... its alot harder to "keep an eye on her"

She will never come to me and say "I have a problem"

All the times I caught her, and confronted her- she'd deny it...

It wasnt until now... that these things have haulted is she admitting it...

Posted 6/12/06 8:21 PM
 
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