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Bops
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Anyone else notice....
the amount of c-sections lately ????...Just me thinking out loud (since I'm a c-section vet myself  )
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SweetTooth
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Re: Anyone else notice....
Yes.
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boobanick
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Re: Anyone else notice....
Yes I agree..... I also think the docts prefer that way they dont have to get waken up in the middle of the night and they pretty much have their schedules set
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| Posted 9/18/08 12:06 PM |
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ruby
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Re: Anyone else notice....
My friend is an L&D nurse and she said there are certain drs that when she goes in to meet her "ladies" as she likes to call them and reads their charts and sees who their OBs are, she just knows in advance whether it will turn out to be a c-section or not, so she gets all the materials prepared. Regardless of the patient's medical situation she says she's usually always right. She says some drs just can't deal with labor...why they're OBs I have no idea, but this is just what she tells me.
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| Posted 9/18/08 12:11 PM |
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CityNYGirl
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Re: Anyone else notice....
It is sad but it is also insurance business....doctors make so much more when there is a c-section delivery vs natural delivery...it makes me 
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| Posted 9/18/08 12:14 PM |
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pickles16
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Re: Anyone else notice....
One of the things I first asked my OB was what percentage of his deliveries are C sections, bc I used to go to someone that all I heard was in the waiting room was that the patients were all C sections...I don't think there is ANYTHING wrong with having one, I do think it's wrong when the Dr's are just lazy though....It's our bodies and our choices, but as a Dr I think they should not rush to do them if we don't want one...
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| Posted 9/18/08 12:17 PM |
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twobabies
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Re: Anyone else notice....
out of the last 6 babies born to friends , 5 of them were csections. Its crazy.
ps. ive had 2 myself.
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Re: Anyone else notice....
lol i vaginally delivered a baby over 10 lbs...that SHOULDVE been a c section...at the time my dr "didnt think" he was that big, and thought i was exaggerating a bit, i was undiagnosed with GD, and my sons shoulders are STILLLLLLL huge..he could be a linebacker, at 10 years old hes 5 feet and 120 lbs..completely solid!
needless to say, i needed EXTENSIVE repair surgery and im sure she got her money from my insurance company THAT way instead! But, i made sure my dr's wouldnt make me deliver anything over 9 this time lol
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| Posted 9/18/08 12:27 PM |
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DRMom
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Re: Anyone else notice....
I think it is mostly because of malpractice insurance. C-sections although major surgery, are much more predictable than vag. birth.
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| Posted 9/18/08 12:33 PM |
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i totally agree!!!!! I was just thinking this, C-sections years ago were so rare, and now it is rare for me to hear that someone gave birth naturally, I sooo what to deliver naturally
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| Posted 9/18/08 12:34 PM |
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Posted by melijane
I think it is mostly because of malpractice insurance. C-sections although major surgery, are much more predictable than vag. birth.
Totally agree. Its more predictable, an easy surgery considering other types of surger, you get paid more, and you can plan it. Want to make it home for dinner - not a problem.
I hate that this is the case right now and though I don't want a c/s, i'm kinda of expecting to have one just b/c of the share number of c/s there are right now.
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| Posted 9/18/08 2:04 PM |
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wannabemom
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Re: Anyone else notice....
Posted by ruby
My friend is an L&D nurse and she said there are certain drs that when she goes in to meet her "ladies" as she likes to call them and reads their charts and sees who their OBs are, she just knows in advance whether it will turn out to be a c-section or not, so she gets all the materials prepared. Regardless of the patient's medical situation she says she's usually always right. She says some drs just can't deal with labor...why they're OBs I have no idea, but this is just what she tells me.
frightening 
my cousin is a nurse practicioner in L&D... and she means well, but she said some pretty scary things to me....
'get the epi'.... I said, well, I'd like to try w/o... she said nah, just get it. I said I wanted to avoid pictocin, and she said '90% of our patients get pictocin. you won't avoid it'... (As a pharmacologist, I know for a fact there is no medical reason for 90% of any patient population to REQUIRE a drug.... it sounds like they're just speeding up labors willy nilly to get people out, despite the potential side-effects and increased pain.)
Then I said 'but pictocin increases the risk of a c-section, since it can put some babies into distress'.... her response was 'our section rate is only 30-35%... that's really GOOD!'  (in europe, section rates are less than 1/2 that, and the infant mortality rates are also much lower.)
yeah, sections are convenient for some Dr's. you don't have to wait around... it's timed, and fast. you can go home and have dinner with your family!
hopefully, none of us have a Dr with a mentality like that though!
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2BEANS
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Re: Anyone else notice....
You also hear about inducing alot more than you used too.. seems like doctors dont want to be bothered by a call early in the morning that his/her patient is in labor .. so this way they say inducing so that it can be scheduled..
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| Posted 9/18/08 3:01 PM |
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DRMom
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Re: Anyone else notice....
Posted by wannabemom
Posted by ruby
My friend is an L&D nurse and she said there are certain drs that when she goes in to meet her "ladies" as she likes to call them and reads their charts and sees who their OBs are, she just knows in advance whether it will turn out to be a c-section or not, so she gets all the materials prepared. Regardless of the patient's medical situation she says she's usually always right. She says some drs just can't deal with labor...why they're OBs I have no idea, but this is just what she tells me.
frightening
my cousin is a nurse practicioner in L&D... and she means well, but she said some pretty scary things to me....
'get the epi'.... I said, well, I'd like to try w/o... she said nah, just get it. I said I wanted to avoid pictocin, and she said '90% of our patients get pictocin. you won't avoid it'... (As a pharmacologist, I know for a fact there is no medical reason for 90% of any patient population to REQUIRE a drug.... it sounds like they're just speeding up labors willy nilly to get people out, despite the potential side-effects and increased pain.)
Then I said 'but pictocin increases the risk of a c-section, since it can put some babies into distress'.... her response was 'our section rate is only 30-35%... that's really GOOD!' (in europe, section rates are less than 1/2 that, and the infant mortality rates are also much lower.)
yeah, sections are convenient for some Dr's. you don't have to wait around... it's timed, and fast. you can go home and have dinner with your family!
hopefully, none of us have a Dr with a mentality like that though!
This is yet another reason why I think health insurance is so corrupt and is another "big business" that needs much tougher regulation.
Luckily my Dr seems to want to try and let me go naturally even with twins. Though my husband and I decided that we will only go that route if both babies are head down and facing the right way.
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ruby
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Re: Anyone else notice....
Posted by wannabemom
Posted by ruby
My friend is an L&D nurse and she said there are certain drs that when she goes in to meet her "ladies" as she likes to call them and reads their charts and sees who their OBs are, she just knows in advance whether it will turn out to be a c-section or not, so she gets all the materials prepared. Regardless of the patient's medical situation she says she's usually always right. She says some drs just can't deal with labor...why they're OBs I have no idea, but this is just what she tells me.
frightening
my cousin is a nurse practicioner in L&D... and she means well, but she said some pretty scary things to me....
'get the epi'.... I said, well, I'd like to try w/o... she said nah, just get it. I said I wanted to avoid pictocin, and she said '90% of our patients get pictocin. you won't avoid it'... (As a pharmacologist, I know for a fact there is no medical reason for 90% of any patient population to REQUIRE a drug.... it sounds like they're just speeding up labors willy nilly to get people out, despite the potential side-effects and increased pain.)
Then I said 'but pictocin increases the risk of a c-section, since it can put some babies into distress'.... her response was 'our section rate is only 30-35%... that's really GOOD!' (in europe, section rates are less than 1/2 that, and the infant mortality rates are also much lower.)
yeah, sections are convenient for some Dr's. you don't have to wait around... it's timed, and fast. you can go home and have dinner with your family!
hopefully, none of us have a Dr with a mentality like that though!
I can't get over the percentage difference!
My friend has told me horror stories too.....the thing is the horror stories aren't really like crazy situations, just the reality of what really goes on in L&D. I know they're doctors and we're the patients but she basically alludes to the fact that nothing is up to us, it's all about how the dr is feeling that day and what their personality and MO is to begin with. Get this, she also says that (at least in her hospital-which mind you is one of the top 3 in the city for L&D) the male OB's almost always do c-sections, more so than the females....they just literally can't be bothered to do it any other way. And she says all her "ladies" come in telling her about the birth plans they've discussed with said doctors and she feels bad cause she's like, these women have no idea that they're having a c-section no matter what. It's totally frightening.
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Katie111806
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Re: Anyone else notice....
It's really alarming actually.
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| Posted 9/18/08 3:16 PM |
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Blissful
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Re: Anyone else notice....
Yes..and I could go on and on about this but I don't want to upset anyone or get flamed.
This is the reason why I am using a midwife and am planning a Home birth with the option to deliver in a hospital if need be.
I worked in L&D and I know many of the reasons of why women get pitocin and c-sections so often.....much attributed to the lazziness of OB's
In todays world every woman HAS TO BE THEIR OWN ADVOCATE...... Do your research know what you want and STAND UP FOR YOURSELF..........
Enough said.............
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| Posted 9/18/08 3:18 PM |
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Eireann
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Re: Anyone else notice....
Yes, I noticed it (and I've had two myself) which is why I posted this last week...
How were YOU born...
Interestingly, according to the answers...only 20% of our moms had c-sections with us--as compared to what...around 35% now? I'm pretty sure mothers and babies weren't dying left and right during childbirth in the 70s to precipitate the huge increase in c-sections. 
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wannabemom
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Re: Anyone else notice....
Posted by Blissful
Yes..and I could go on and on about this but I don't want to upset anyone or get flamed.
This is the reason why I am using a midwife and am planning a Home birth with the option to deliver in a hospital if need be.
I worked in L&D and I know many of the reasons of why women get pitocin and c-sections so often.....much attributed to the lazziness of OB's
In todays world every woman HAS TO BE THEIR OWN ADVOCATE...... Do your research know what you want and STAND UP FOR YOURSELF..........
Enough said.............
I agree 100%.... and if I was ballsy enough, I would have gone the same route as you.... but I whimped out  At least SBU hospital has a huge midwife presence and influence, and my OB is into less intervention rather than more. (you can really tell the midwife influence... even with the lactation support! It's wonderful)
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| Posted 9/18/08 3:37 PM |
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kmac
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Re: Anyone else notice....
Yes it's scary how quickly what could have been a natural birth turns into a C. I watched the business of being born and it seems to be all too common.
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| Posted 9/18/08 4:23 PM |
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Diana1215
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Re: Anyone else notice....
I completely agree - the numbers are ridiculously high lately.
I literally had to BEG my doctors to give me a c-section. I was 12 days late - was induced - and still nothing. I pretty much demanded a c-section when they wanted to wait a few more hours. I guess they are in the minority of doctors pushing for it!
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Posted by Blissful
Yes..and I could go on and on about this but I don't want to upset anyone or get flamed.
This is the reason why I am using a midwife and am planning a Home birth with the option to deliver in a hospital if need be.
I worked in L&D and I know many of the reasons of why women get pitocin and c-sections so often.....much attributed to the lazziness of OB's
In todays world every woman HAS TO BE THEIR OWN ADVOCATE...... Do your research know what you want and STAND UP FOR YOURSELF..........
Enough said.............
Do you think some dr.s lie to their patients about the status of the baby or the babys health to convince them they should get a section? I have wondered this....for example cord wrapped around the neck
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kerrycec03
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its so scary!! I really REALLY want to try vaginally. I know my gyn office is big c-section people. GRRR. I'm telling them upfront and my DH knows.
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wannabemom
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Posted by secretbabymaker
Posted by Blissful
Yes..and I could go on and on about this but I don't want to upset anyone or get flamed.
This is the reason why I am using a midwife and am planning a Home birth with the option to deliver in a hospital if need be.
I worked in L&D and I know many of the reasons of why women get pitocin and c-sections so often.....much attributed to the lazziness of OB's
In todays world every woman HAS TO BE THEIR OWN ADVOCATE...... Do your research know what you want and STAND UP FOR YOURSELF..........
Enough said.............
Do you think some dr.s lie to their patients about the status of the baby or the babys health to convince them they should get a section? I have wondered this....for example cord wrapped around the neck
personally, I would doubt that, becuase that is totally unethical and would cause them to lose their license.
Besides, the OB world is so pro drug and section that it doesn't take much of an excuse to do one. Generic diagnoses like 'labor not progressing' is sufficient... Growth sono's are also sufficient, despite their reputation of being rather unreliable (how many women report a growth sono with 9 lbs+ and end up have a section with a baby that is only 7 lbs+) THEN, once a mom has one, well, it's scheduled sections all the way!
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Blissful
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Re: Anyone else notice....
Posted by secretbabymaker
Posted by Blissful
Yes..and I could go on and on about this but I don't want to upset anyone or get flamed.
This is the reason why I am using a midwife and am planning a Home birth with the option to deliver in a hospital if need be.
I worked in L&D and I know many of the reasons of why women get pitocin and c-sections so often.....much attributed to the lazziness of OB's
In todays world every woman HAS TO BE THEIR OWN ADVOCATE...... Do your research know what you want and STAND UP FOR YOURSELF..........
Enough said.............
Do you think some dr.s lie to their patients about the status of the baby or the babys health to convince them they should get a section? I have wondered this....for example cord wrapped around the neck
I have never seen a physician LIE about something like the cord being around the neck but I've seen them just order pitocin because they wanted to rush a delivery because they were tired of waiting, or tell a mom that the baby was in danger because the heart rate went down.... which is called a decelaration and is NORMAL in labor....... Doctors who tell women after 10 hours of labor that they are failing to progress and putting the baby at risk and that they need a c-section when in fact for a first time mom normal labor is 18+ hours and as long as the baby and mom are doing fine there is no reason to just have a c-section.
Basically I've seen Dr.s that are impatient, want to leave by a certain time and don't want to be called in. Drs that want to push labor along faster by using medications such as pitocin which increase your risk for a medical complication because they don't want to wait.
I'm not saying all doctors are like that but a lot of them.............. It's scary what I have witnessed first hand.........
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