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WHY is it news who Spitzers ***** was?

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Re: WHY is it news who Spitzers whore was?

The girl gave interviews to major media outlets. She isn't exactly trying to stay silent and out of the spotlight. It would be one thing if reporters were chasing her down and she was declining to comment / asking them to leaver her alone. From what I've read, she's been granting interviews... (I can't imagine why she thinks it's a good idea for her to talk to the media, but she's decided to do so...)

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Re: WHY is it news who Spitzers whore was?

Posted by Kara

The girl gave interviews to major media outlets. She isn't exactly trying to stay silent and out of the spotlight. It would be one thing if reporters were chasing her down and she was declining to comment / asking them to leaver her alone. From what I've read, she's been granting interviews... (I can't imagine why she thinks it's a good idea for her to talk to the media, but she's decided to do so...)



I'm guessing that she thinks this will help her get some exposure for acting or whatever it is she is interested in.

She looks young, she probably doesn't realize that for the rest of her life this is what people will focus on. When she applies for a job and HR googles her she's going to be remembered for this.

Posted 3/13/08 9:59 AM
 

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Re: WHY is it news who Spitzers whore was?

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ITA, what sickens me is that she will surely gain a career out of this disgusting way she chose to live her life.



Highly unlikely. What are Divine Brown and Monica Lewinsky doing these days?



Divine Brown got a book deal, talk shows, commercials and a radio show over her encounter.

Monica Lewinsky got some pretty amazing jobs, and has attended fashion week and some other parties lately. I still see pics of her in In Style magazine at some parties.

Posted 3/13/08 9:59 AM
 

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Re: WHY is it news who Spitzers whore was?

You should read the book, Amusing Ourselves To Death. I read it in college over 10 years ago. Its about how the media is entertainment based rather than news based. Very interesting.

ETA: It looks like the book I read has been surpassed by a 2005 edition.

From amazon:
From the author of Teaching as a Subversive Activity comes a sustained, withering and thought-provoking attack on television and what it is doing to us. Postman's theme is the decline of the printed word and the ascendancy of the "tube" with its tendency to present everythingmurder, mayhem, politics, weatheras entertainment. The ultimate effect, as Postman sees it, is the shrivelling of public discourse as TV degrades our conception of what constitutes news, political debate, art, even religious thought. Early chapters trace America's one-time love affair with the printed word, from colonial pamphlets to the publication of the Lincoln-Douglas debates. There's a biting analysis of TV commercials as a form of "instant therapy" based on the assumption that human problems are easily solvable. Postman goes further than other critics in demonstrating that television represents a hostile attack on literate culture. October 30
Copyright 1985 Reed Business Information, Inc. --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.

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Posted 3/13/08 10:01 AM
 

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Re: WHY is it news who Spitzers whore was?

Posted by Kara

The girl gave interviews to major media outlets. She isn't exactly trying to stay silent and out of the spotlight. It would be one thing if reporters were chasing her down and she was declining to comment / asking them to leaver her alone. From what I've read, she's been granting interviews... (I can't imagine why she thinks it's a good idea for her to talk to the media, but she's decided to do so...)



if the media didn't think there was a market for it, they wouldn't give her the time of day.

Posted 3/13/08 10:02 AM
 

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Re: WHY is it news who Spitzers whore was?

Honestly I feel a little sorry for her. She had a tough life from what I've heard and now it's being splashed all over the news.


ETA - I had no idea she was giving interviews...ok that changes my mind a little...Chat Icon

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Posted 3/13/08 10:02 AM
 

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Re: WHY is it news who Spitzers whore was?

So she can now be famous...Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

Posted 3/13/08 10:02 AM
 

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Re: WHY is it news who Spitzers whore was?

Posted by joenick

Sadly, she'll become a "celebrity" for this.



Yeah, she'll have a "reality" show in no time. . .Chat Icon

Posted by Ophelia

the idea that we have given catch phrases like "lov gov" and "govs girl" to something that is supposed to be such a serious issue!? it's now got the Brangelina/Bennifer route and is just news to feed to the hungry masses!



Wow! "Lov gov"? I hadn't heard that one. Chat Icon That sounds like a Post headline. Chat Icon

It is sad, how the focus is on her. Now the his ersignation is offical, I'd like to hear more about the Lt.Gov & what this means for our state government, and budget, etc.

Message edited 3/13/2008 10:14:11 AM.

Posted 3/13/08 10:10 AM
 

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Re: WHY is it news who Spitzers whore was?

Posted by Shelly

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IMO, she's not the one to be blamed. She was just doing her job. He is the one to be blamed big time. She did not go into his house and dragged him out witha gun to his head. He was the who chose to go to her and he was busy visiting these call girls for half of his marriage.

He is such a douche bag.



So I guess a drug dealer is just doing his job too? So are they not to be blamed for someone who goes out and buys drugs.

Sorry, I don't follow your logic.



I agree with GaryElla... He's to blame. No one made him go out and cheat on his wife with a prostitute. She has a job (be it legal or not) and she did it.

To your point about drug dealers... Yes, I think it's NOT their fault people are hooked on drugs. Many people are junkies, not all of them had a gun to their heads forcing them to take those drugs. They made a choice. A bad one, but none the less a choice.

I equate it to the people who sued McDonalds b/c eating it all the time made them fat and unhealthy. Again, no one forced them to eat it everyday, they just did. When they saw themselves getting heavy and their health start to decline, they didn't stop. They had the choice to, but didn't.

I think it's the same thing with Spitzer. He had a choice - to sleep with a hooker or not to sleep with a hooker. He chose to. So my head says, you play with fire, you're gonna get burned.

He got burned.

Posted by Shelly
I think its both their faults. His responsiblity is of course bigger because of his position as governer. But the hooker isn't blameless either. Her "job" is illegal, just like a drug dealer. She works because there is a demand for her services.



I don't agree, it's not both their faults.

I do feel that they (hookers and drug dealers) are providing a service and so if no one required their service they wouldn't have a business.

Posted 3/13/08 10:24 AM
 

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Re: WHY is it news who Spitzers whore was?

Posted by Jennie0898
I agree with GaryElla... He's to blame. No one made him go out and cheat on his wife with a prostitute. She has a job (be it legal or not) and she did it.

To your point about drug dealers... Yes, I think it's NOT their fault people are hooked on drugs. Many people are junkies, not all of them had a gun to their heads forcing them to take those drugs. They made a choice. A bad one, but none the less a choice.

I equate it to the people who sued McDonalds b/c eating it all the time made them fat and unhealthy. Again, no one forced them to eat it everyday, they just did. When they saw themselves getting heavy and their health start to decline, they didn't stop. They had the choice to, but didn't.

I think it's the same thing with Spitzer. He had a choice - to sleep with a hooker or not to sleep with a hooker. He chose to. So my head says, you play with fire, you're gonna get burned.

He got burned.



But selling unhealthy food isn't illegal. Selling sex is. Like i said, if it wasn't for the "sale" of the sex- if this was just a mistress, I would agree with you. But it wasn't.


Message edited 3/13/2008 10:30:02 AM.

Posted 3/13/08 10:29 AM
 

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Re: WHY is it news who Spitzers whore was?

Posted by Jennie0898

Posted by Shelly

Posted by GaryElla

IMO, she's not the one to be blamed. She was just doing her job. He is the one to be blamed big time. She did not go into his house and dragged him out witha gun to his head. He was the who chose to go to her and he was busy visiting these call girls for half of his marriage.

He is such a douche bag.



So I guess a drug dealer is just doing his job too? So are they not to be blamed for someone who goes out and buys drugs.

Sorry, I don't follow your logic.



I agree with GaryElla... He's to blame. No one made him go out and cheat on his wife with a prostitute. She has a job (be it legal or not) and she did it.

To your point about drug dealers... Yes, I think it's NOT their fault people are hooked on drugs. Many people are junkies, not all of them had a gun to their heads forcing them to take those drugs. They made a choice. A bad one, but none the less a choice.

I equate it to the people who sued McDonalds b/c eating it all the time made them fat and unhealthy. Again, no one forced them to eat it everyday, they just did. When they saw themselves getting heavy and their health start to decline, they didn't stop. They had the choice to, but didn't.

I think it's the same thing with Spitzer. He had a choice - to sleep with a hooker or not to sleep with a hooker. He chose to. So my head says, you play with fire, you're gonna get burned.

He got burned.

Posted by Shelly
I think its both their faults. His responsiblity is of course bigger because of his position as governer. But the hooker isn't blameless either. Her "job" is illegal, just like a drug dealer. She works because there is a demand for her services.



I don't agree, it's not both their faults.

I do feel that they (hookers and drug dealers) are providing a service and so if no one required their service they wouldn't have a business.



I am sorry I don't understand.

It's illegal to selling drugs & sex - anyone doing so is breaking the law. There's no such stipulation on cheeseburgers.

What if I wanted someone hurt and someone was willing to provide that service for me - that person would be excused from the law because there's a demand for it?

Posted 3/13/08 10:32 AM
 

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Re: WHY is it news who Spitzers whore was?

Posted by Jennie0898

Posted by Shelly

Posted by GaryElla

IMO, she's not the one to be blamed. She was just doing her job. He is the one to be blamed big time. She did not go into his house and dragged him out witha gun to his head. He was the who chose to go to her and he was busy visiting these call girls for half of his marriage.

He is such a douche bag.



So I guess a drug dealer is just doing his job too? So are they not to be blamed for someone who goes out and buys drugs.

Sorry, I don't follow your logic.



I agree with GaryElla... He's to blame. No one made him go out and cheat on his wife with a prostitute. She has a job (be it legal or not) and she did it.

To your point about drug dealers... Yes, I think it's NOT their fault people are hooked on drugs. Many people are junkies, not all of them had a gun to their heads forcing them to take those drugs. They made a choice. A bad one, but none the less a choice.

I equate it to the people who sued McDonalds b/c eating it all the time made them fat and unhealthy. Again, no one forced them to eat it everyday, they just did. When they saw themselves getting heavy and their health start to decline, they didn't stop. They had the choice to, but didn't.

I think it's the same thing with Spitzer. He had a choice - to sleep with a hooker or not to sleep with a hooker. He chose to. So my head says, you play with fire, you're gonna get burned.

He got burned.

Posted by Shelly
I think its both their faults. His responsiblity is of course bigger because of his position as governer. But the hooker isn't blameless either. Her "job" is illegal, just like a drug dealer. She works because there is a demand for her services.



I don't agree, it's not both their faults.

I do feel that they (hookers and drug dealers) are providing a service and so if no one required their service they wouldn't have a business.



I agree with you Jennie!!! This exactly how I feel.

Posted 3/13/08 10:37 AM
 

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Re: WHY is it news who Spitzers whore was?

Simple, she's in the news b/c it's an intersting topic. She can't be proud of herself. What's the difference between her or any other chic that bangs a married man? Well, she's smarter, she's gotten paid before and now will make more money now.

Posted 3/13/08 10:41 AM
 

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Re: WHY is it news who Spitzers whore was?

Posted by Christine

Posted by Jennie0898

Posted by Shelly

Posted by GaryElla

IMO, she's not the one to be blamed. She was just doing her job. He is the one to be blamed big time. She did not go into his house and dragged him out witha gun to his head. He was the who chose to go to her and he was busy visiting these call girls for half of his marriage.

He is such a douche bag.



So I guess a drug dealer is just doing his job too? So are they not to be blamed for someone who goes out and buys drugs.

Sorry, I don't follow your logic.



I agree with GaryElla... He's to blame. No one made him go out and cheat on his wife with a prostitute. She has a job (be it legal or not) and she did it.

To your point about drug dealers... Yes, I think it's NOT their fault people are hooked on drugs. Many people are junkies, not all of them had a gun to their heads forcing them to take those drugs. They made a choice. A bad one, but none the less a choice.

I equate it to the people who sued McDonalds b/c eating it all the time made them fat and unhealthy. Again, no one forced them to eat it everyday, they just did. When they saw themselves getting heavy and their health start to decline, they didn't stop. They had the choice to, but didn't.

I think it's the same thing with Spitzer. He had a choice - to sleep with a hooker or not to sleep with a hooker. He chose to. So my head says, you play with fire, you're gonna get burned.

He got burned.

Posted by Shelly
I think its both their faults. His responsiblity is of course bigger because of his position as governer. But the hooker isn't blameless either. Her "job" is illegal, just like a drug dealer. She works because there is a demand for her services.



I don't agree, it's not both their faults.

I do feel that they (hookers and drug dealers) are providing a service and so if no one required their service they wouldn't have a business.



I am sorry I don't understand.

It's illegal to selling drugs & sex - anyone doing so is breaking the law. There's no such stipulation on cheeseburgers.

What if I wanted someone hurt and someone was willing to provide that service for me - that person would be excused from the law because there's a demand for it?



Posted by Shelly

Posted by Jennie0898
I agree with GaryElla... He's to blame. No one made him go out and cheat on his wife with a prostitute. She has a job (be it legal or not) and she did it.

To your point about drug dealers... Yes, I think it's NOT their fault people are hooked on drugs. Many people are junkies, not all of them had a gun to their heads forcing them to take those drugs. They made a choice. A bad one, but none the less a choice.

I equate it to the people who sued McDonalds b/c eating it all the time made them fat and unhealthy. Again, no one forced them to eat it everyday, they just did. When they saw themselves getting heavy and their health start to decline, they didn't stop. They had the choice to, but didn't.

I think it's the same thing with Spitzer. He had a choice - to sleep with a hooker or not to sleep with a hooker. He chose to. So my head says, you play with fire, you're gonna get burned.

He got burned.



But selling unhealthy food isn't illegal. Selling sex is. Like i said, if it wasn't for the "sale" of the sex- if this was just a mistress, I would agree with you. But it wasn't.





Since you and Shelly basically have the same argument - I'm answering you both here! Chat Icon

I'm arguing the point of "who's fault it is".

All I'm saying is that for the most part, no one is forced to partake in these illegal activities (have sex with a hooker or take drugs).

I referenced the McDonald's things b/c again no one forced these people to eat their way into being unhealthy, they made the choice to.

Am I explaining myself clearly?

Posted 3/13/08 10:48 AM
 

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She's the next American Idol!Chat Icon

Posted 3/13/08 10:55 AM
 

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Re: WHY is it news who Spitzers whore was?

Posted by Jennie0898

Since you and Shelly basically have the same argument - I'm answering you both here! Chat Icon

I'm arguing the point of "who's fault it is".

All I'm saying is that for the most part, no one is forced to partake in these illegal activities (have sex with a hooker or take drugs).

I referenced the McDonald's things b/c again no one forced these people to eat their way into being unhealthy, they made the choice to.

Am I explaining myself clearly?



I think the distinction is this:

Providing the services of sex for sale, drugs or being a hitman are all illegal activities.

Selling unhealthy food is not illegal.

Since McDonalds isn't doing anything illegal, its not their fault that people are abusing what they have to offer.

But a hitman, a prostitute and a drug dealer all offer illegal services, so they are too to blame for what happens.

I think Christine's example of a hitman is the best. no one forces someone to go to a hitman, but if you hire a hitman to kill someone, is the hitman blameless?

Message edited 3/13/2008 10:57:57 AM.

Posted 3/13/08 10:57 AM
 

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Re: WHY is it news who Spitzers whore was?

she's all over the newspaper headlines and poor little Nixmary Brown's trial coverage gets shoved to page 8. ugh!

Posted 3/13/08 11:00 AM
 

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Re: WHY is it news who Spitzers whore was?

Posted by Jennie0898

Since you and Shelly basically have the same argument - I'm answering you both here! Chat Icon

I'm arguing the point of "who's fault it is".

All I'm saying is that for the most part, no one is forced to partake in these illegal activities (have sex with a hooker or take drugs).

I referenced the McDonald's things b/c again no one forced these people to eat their way into being unhealthy, they made the choice to.

Am I explaining myself clearly?



I understand what you are saying here - it's his fault for hiring a hooker. No one forced him to do that.

On the other hand, no one forced her to take an iillegal job. I think they are both breaking the law and have some, albeit different, accountablitity in the situation.

Posted 3/13/08 11:01 AM
 

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Re: WHY is it news who Spitzers whore was?

Posted by Shelly

I think the distinction is this:

Providing the services of sex for sale, drugs or being a hitman are all illegal activities.

Selling unhealthy food is not illegal.

Since McDonalds isn't doing anything illegal, its not their fault that people are abusing what they have to offer.

But a hitman, a prostitute and a drug dealer all offer illegal services, so they are too to blame for what happens.

I think Christine's example of a hitman is the best. no one forces someone to go to a hitman, but if you hire a hitman to kill someone, is the hitman blameless?



I hear ya, but my thought is this...

Yes, I agree the drug dealer, hitman and prostitute (this sounds like the making of a joke! Chat Icon) are all breaking the law b/c their job is illegal. Yes, these people should be prosecuted for commiting a crime (aka their job) but they should not be blamed for their clients hiring them.

I don't feel they are the ones to blame for having people hire them for their services. KWIM? No one forced their "clients" to become involved with them.

Posted 3/13/08 11:05 AM
 

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Re: WHY is it news who Spitzers whore was?

Posted by Bklyngrl

she's all over the newspaper headlines and poor little Nixmary Brown's trial coverage gets shoved to page 8. ugh!


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Re: WHY is it news who Spitzers whore was?

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Posted by Jennie0898

Since you and Shelly basically have the same argument - I'm answering you both here! Chat Icon

I'm arguing the point of "who's fault it is".

All I'm saying is that for the most part, no one is forced to partake in these illegal activities (have sex with a hooker or take drugs).

I referenced the McDonald's things b/c again no one forced these people to eat their way into being unhealthy, they made the choice to.

Am I explaining myself clearly?



I understand what you are saying here - it's his fault for hiring a hooker. No one forced him to do that.

On the other hand, no one forced her to take an iillegal job. I think they are both breaking the law and have some, albeit different, accountablitity in the situation.



Exactly!

I'm not saying she didn't break the law, I'm just saying in this case it's Spitzer's problem that he's in the hot seat not hers.

Message edited 3/13/2008 11:07:33 AM.

Posted 3/13/08 11:06 AM
 

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Re: WHY is it news who Spitzers whore was?

Posted by Bklyngrl

she's all over the newspaper headlines and poor little Nixmary Brown's trial coverage gets shoved to page 8. ugh!



Now THAT'S sad.

Poor kid... Chat Icon

Posted 3/13/08 11:07 AM
 

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Re: WHY is it news who Spitzers whore was?

Posted by Shelly

Divine Brown got a book deal, talk shows, commercials and a radio show over her encounter.

Monica Lewinsky got some pretty amazing jobs, and has attended fashion week and some other parties lately. I still see pics of her in In Style magazine at some parties.



Oh well. Good for them, I guess. They turned a bad situation into something positive for themselves. I've never seen them in anything. Then again, I don't watch talk shows or read tabloids.

Posted 3/13/08 11:07 AM
 

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Re: WHY is it news who Spitzers whore was?

Posted by Jennie0898

Posted by Shelly

I think the distinction is this:

Providing the services of sex for sale, drugs or being a hitman are all illegal activities.

Selling unhealthy food is not illegal.

Since McDonalds isn't doing anything illegal, its not their fault that people are abusing what they have to offer.

But a hitman, a prostitute and a drug dealer all offer illegal services, so they are too to blame for what happens.

I think Christine's example of a hitman is the best. no one forces someone to go to a hitman, but if you hire a hitman to kill someone, is the hitman blameless?



I hear ya, but my thought is this...

Yes, I agree the drug dealer, hitman and prostitute (this sounds like the making of a joke! Chat Icon) are all breaking the law b/c their job is illegal. Yes, these people should be prosecuted for commiting a crime (aka their job) but they should not be blamed for their clients hiring them.

I don't feel they are the ones to blame for having people hire them for their services. KWIM? No one forced their "clients" to become involved with them.



I understand what you are saying now.
I just disagree with you. I definitely think they are partly to blame for offering the service. To me, it doesn't matter if its a woman or a man (as per your first post). Offering an illegal service makes you partially to blame for that illegal act. Although in this case, based upon his position he is by far more to blame. But I just can't say she is blameless.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Chat Icon But thank you for explaining your position ot me. It makes for an interesting debate (without any drama).

Posted 3/13/08 11:10 AM
 

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Re: WHY is it news who Spitzers whore was?

Posted by Shelly

Posted by Jennie0898

Posted by Shelly

I think the distinction is this:

Providing the services of sex for sale, drugs or being a hitman are all illegal activities.

Selling unhealthy food is not illegal.

Since McDonalds isn't doing anything illegal, its not their fault that people are abusing what they have to offer.

But a hitman, a prostitute and a drug dealer all offer illegal services, so they are too to blame for what happens.

I think Christine's example of a hitman is the best. no one forces someone to go to a hitman, but if you hire a hitman to kill someone, is the hitman blameless?



I hear ya, but my thought is this...

Yes, I agree the drug dealer, hitman and prostitute (this sounds like the making of a joke! Chat Icon) are all breaking the law b/c their job is illegal. Yes, these people should be prosecuted for commiting a crime (aka their job) but they should not be blamed for their clients hiring them.

I don't feel they are the ones to blame for having people hire them for their services. KWIM? No one forced their "clients" to become involved with them.



I understand what you are saying now.
I just disagree with you. I definitely think they are partly to blame for offering the service. To me, it doesn't matter if its a woman or a man (as per your first post). Offering an illegal service makes you partially to blame for that illegal act. Although in this case, based upon his position he is by far more to blame. But I just can't say she is blameless.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Chat Icon But thank you for explaining your position ot me. It makes for an interesting debate (without any drama).



I'm very glad we could have this discussion w/o it going to the "drama side" too!

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