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lipglossjunky73
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I feel awful.... sort of long...

I know everyone at my job - I work in a small place.

There are 5-6 other women that work here. Several are married with teenage or adult children.One is younger and not married. One is married and pregnant. One is married, very much about her career, and talks about having kids sometime, but not really actively trying because of other things. And then there are a few men.

There are also a bunch of graduate student interns here, all very young. Some look like kids.

There were recently emails going around about all of us going out to dinner late after a conference. I knew I couldn't go, and said something like, "Sorry - I would only be able to go if I could strap this kid to my back..." and made some comment about having no life anymore...

I felt comfortable saying this because I know everyone very well, have worked here for years, and we always made some type of comment to each other about our lives, etc...

Well, it turns out one of the interns was on the email list. I don't even know her because she works with someone else completely, and she looks like she is 12. But she is married, and going thru fertility issues, and she was really offended at my email.

If I knew anyone was going thru any type of fertility issue, I would never have said anything - I thought I knew everyone on the email list and didnt even look at the CC list. I didn't even know any of the interns were married, because they are such kids, and I would never even think that she was trying because she's a young student, so it wasn't even on my radar.

I feel bad because I am very sensitive to fertility issues, and have really been educated by a lot of moms on these boards.

I never even talk to her - I didnt even know who she was when a collague mentioned it to me, so its not like I'm going to even start talking to her now and apologize. whats done is done.

But I just feel badly about it....Chat Icon

Posted 11/12/07 4:14 PM
 
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Re: I feel awful.... sort of long...

You had no way of knowing that she was having fertility issues. I really don't think she should have been offended. I guess I really can't say that having never been there, but I don't think it's right to be upset with you when you had no idea. How do you know she was offended? Try not to beat yourself up about it. Chat Icon Do you think you should apologize to her? It sounds like it would be weird if you've never really spoken to her before, but maybe it will make you feel better.

Posted 11/12/07 4:30 PM
 

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Re: I feel awful.... sort of long...

I understand that you feel bad...I would probably too. But, you were just being yourself and you meant no harm. I don't know what it's like to go through fertility issues, but I do know that she needs to be a little less sensitive or everything is going to bother her!

Posted 11/12/07 4:32 PM
 

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Re: I feel awful.... sort of long...

Posted by johnsae

I understand that you feel bad...I would probably too. But, you were just being yourself and you meant no harm. I don't know what it's like to go through fertility issues, but I do know that she needs to be a little less sensitive or everything is going to bother her!



ITA, it seems like it was just a seemingly innocent comment among friends, not anythign meant to offend anyone.

Posted 11/12/07 4:35 PM
 

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Re: I feel awful.... sort of long...

Posted by lipglossjunky73

I never even talk to her - I didnt even know who she was when a collague mentioned it to me, so its not like I'm going to even start talking to her now and apologize. whats done is done.




imo, you should apologize to her. student intern or not, she is obviously not "12 year old kid" and she is an adult colleague. it will probably be awkward, but just speak from your heart about feeling badly.

good luck!!

Posted 11/12/07 4:36 PM
 

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Re: I feel awful.... sort of long...

Posted by johnsae

I understand that you feel bad...I would probably too. But, you were just being yourself and you meant no harm. I don't know what it's like to go through fertility issues, but I do know that she needs to be a little less sensitive or everything is going to bother her!



ITA! AND as someone who cannot have anymore bio children besides my DD (due to medical issues) I have to say that I do get a little teary eyed when I see or hear about a friend being preggo as we desperately wanted another one. I am happy for them and yet I feel a little sad for myself.

HOWEVER, I DO NOT expect people to walk on eggshells around me. She was cc'ed on an email, it's not like you directly emailed her and said "gee, I hear you are having fertility issues..." I mean that is a little unprofessional on her part to be offended. I understand it is hard for her, but you know she cannot expect everyone to walk around on eggshells in what they say or email. KWIM?

ETA: Someone once at work told me right before my heart surgery that I would be cut open like a lobster and made jokes about my surgery. She was trying to lighten the mood. Most of you know what a emotional mess I was before my surgery and at first I was upset by her comments. Then, I gave it some thought and you know, she was right. I WAS cut ope like a lobster and I should be able to joke about it. I realized right then and there that I cannot expect people to ALWAYS be aware of what will and will not be offensive to me. It is my responsibility NOT to let it effect me, to laugh at myself, and to not get offended by everything in life, especially the sensitive topics.

Message edited 11/12/2007 4:46:16 PM.

Posted 11/12/07 4:39 PM
 

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Re: I feel awful.... sort of long...

Posted by halisa

imo, you should apologize to her. student intern or not, she is obviously not "12 year old kid" and she is an adult colleague. it will probably be awkward, but just speak from your heart about feeling badly.

good luck!!



Apolize for what??? Liza was just making a comment on her own life.


ETA: Meant to post in just one post but I hit enter too quickly.

Message edited 11/12/2007 4:44:20 PM.

Posted 11/12/07 4:43 PM
 

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Re: I feel awful.... sort of long...

Posted by Sunrise813

Posted by johnsae

I understand that you feel bad...I would probably too. But, you were just being yourself and you meant no harm. I don't know what it's like to go through fertility issues, but I do know that she needs to be a little less sensitive or everything is going to bother her!



ITA, it seems like it was just a seemingly innocent comment among friends, not anythign meant to offend anyone.





ITA

Posted 11/12/07 4:43 PM
 

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Re: I feel awful.... sort of long...

How could you of known? It was so innocent

Posted 11/12/07 4:43 PM
 

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Re: I feel awful.... sort of long...

Posted by halisa

Posted by lipglossjunky73

I never even talk to her - I didnt even know who she was when a collague mentioned it to me, so its not like I'm going to even start talking to her now and apologize. whats done is done.




imo, you should apologize to her. student intern or not, she is obviously not "12 year old kid" and she is an adult colleague. it will probably be awkward, but just speak from your heart about feeling badly.

good luck!!



I'm confused. I don't understand why Liza should apologize?

I have no idea what it is like to go through fertility issues, but from what is written above it sounds like a normal lament about life, etc. and nothing that would offend anyone. Unless there is more to it.

Posted 11/12/07 4:46 PM
 

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Re: I feel awful.... sort of long...

Posted by Sunrise813

Posted by halisa

imo, you should apologize to her. student intern or not, she is obviously not "12 year old kid" and she is an adult colleague. it will probably be awkward, but just speak from your heart about feeling badly.

good luck!!



Apolize for what??? Liza was just making a comment on her own life.


ETA: Meant to post in just one post but I hit enter too quickly.



i'm not commenting on or coming down on what liza said, it obviously was a simple comment, but she is repeatedly expressing sadness and regret in her post and feeling like she is sensitive to fertility issues, so why not just say something to the woman. she is a colleague. nothing helps to feel better, than to talk about things. jmo.

eta: something like, "hey, i heard you were upset by an email i sent, i apologize if i offended you in anyway, that wasn't my intention."


Message edited 11/12/2007 4:52:28 PM.

Posted 11/12/07 4:50 PM
 

lipglossjunky73
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Re: I feel awful.... sort of long...

Posted by halisa

Posted by Sunrise813

Posted by halisa

imo, you should apologize to her. student intern or not, she is obviously not "12 year old kid" and she is an adult colleague. it will probably be awkward, but just speak from your heart about feeling badly.

good luck!!



Apolize for what??? Liza was just making a comment on her own life.


ETA: Meant to post in just one post but I hit enter too quickly.



i'm not commenting on or coming down on what liza said, it obviously was a simple comment, but she is repeatedly expressing sadness and regret in her post and feeling like she is sensitive to fertility issues, so why not just say something to the woman. she is a colleague. nothing helps to feel better, than to talk about things. jmo.

eta: something like, "hey, i heard you were upset by an email i sent, i apologize if i offended you in anyway, that wasn't my intention."





Lisa -

You make a good point, HOWEVER... it was 1st approached to me like this (by someone who is my supervisor and I've worked closely with for years...)

"I just wanted to tell you something... its off the record, and I'm not going to tell you who, but you need to watch your tone in your emails."

I know I can get a bit curt in my emails, but we all have worked together for years, and I thought it was work related.

Then she clarified, "... about talking so much about your baby."

I still really didnt get it.

Then, she went on to tell me that it can offend people who have fertility issues and are trying to get pregnant. Now, I knew that SHE was pregnant, and by process of elimination, I thought it was the colleague who was the "career" oriented one. She saw my face and said "Its not who you think."

When I asked her who, then she told me, but she really was not supposed to tell me. I had to ask what she looked like, I really had no clue.

She even said something about wishing she had my "burden" of not having a life....

so, I can't go up to her. I can't say anything.

In retrospect, she never even looked at me or said hi to me my whole pregnancy _ I would say hi to her and she would ignore me... its not unusuakl in an autism center though... we employ people with social issues, it didnt eben faze me....so this may have been going on a long time, and she may have had this resentment towards me as she heard me moaning in bathrooms, grunting in my 3rd trimester as I ran playgroups for toddlers (on the floor), etc, and thinking I'm unappreciative the whole time... and hurting her in the process...Chat Icon

Posted 11/12/07 5:45 PM
 

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Re: I feel awful.... sort of long...

I read what I wrote - and said something like,

"Unless you want to come to my house for dinner and have sweet potatoes and Similac, then I wont be able to join you guys unless I strap my kid to my back. Signed, Mommy with no life..."

But we always emailed each other silly things about whatever going on in our lives.....

Posted 11/12/07 5:49 PM
 

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Re: I feel awful.... sort of long...

Posted by johnsae

I understand that you feel bad...I would probably too. But, you were just being yourself and you meant no harm. I don't know what it's like to go through fertility issues, but I do know that she needs to be a little less sensitive or everything is going to bother her!




ITA!!

Posted 11/12/07 5:52 PM
 

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Re: I feel awful.... sort of long...

I wonder is it about this email or "emails"? You had said that the boss said that you have to watch your tone in emails which makes me think that there is prior concern? Dont know. Honestly, IMO...you did nothing wrong and i really wouldnt sweat it. Your statement was hilarious and something many of us would think was very funny. Any statement can be wisted and turned into something its not. I dont think there is a need for an apology especially since it was meant for humor not maliciousness.

Posted 11/12/07 6:02 PM
 

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Re: I feel awful.... sort of long...

sounds to me like you were making a comment about your life to a bunch of people whom you know well - people who recognize that your comments are in no way meant to offend, and who know how much you actually appreciate your life...

i understand how you would feel badly, i would too, but it sounds like you can't approach this person to apologize or talk it through. given that fact, i would chalk it up to an innocent mistake and not beat yourself up about it. Chat Icon

Posted 11/12/07 6:05 PM
 

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Re: I feel awful.... sort of long...

Posted by PrincessP

I wonder is it about this email or "emails"? You had said that the boss said that you have to watch your tone in emails which makes me think that there is prior concern? Dont know. Honestly, IMO...you did nothing wrong and i really wouldnt sweat it. Your statement was hilarious and something many of us would think was very funny. Any statement can be wisted and turned into something its not. I dont think there is a need for an apology especially since it was meant for humor not maliciousness.



I may have said in another emai as the thread continued - "sorry I cant make it - if my husband could watch Cailen, I would, etc..." nothing major....

Posted 11/12/07 9:11 PM
 

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Re: I feel awful.... sort of long...

I see no reason for you to apologize. You did not say anything to purposely offend anyone. And if you boss did not want to tell you who was offended then you really cannot say something to her. I think she would be even more upset if something was said to her...especially bc then she would have to acknowledge her fertility to coworkers. and that could really upset her...Chat Icon for you....

Posted 11/12/07 9:26 PM
 

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Re: I feel awful.... sort of long...

Well, listen, I think that if I were you, I'd be dying from feeling bad, as well. However, given the situation, you obviously cannot apologize, so just make sure that if this girl is on the email list, then you will watch what you say.
As sorry as I would be that this poor girl is having fertility issues, I would not change my entire personality to accomodate one person because guess what, you'll probably just end up offending someone else. No matter what you do or say, there will always be someone who has a problem with it. You could come across as being the most caring, kind person in the world, and there's still going to be that one person out there that doesn't get it.
Granted your tone in your email was more sarcastic, people who know you get it, people who don't probably wouldn't get it and would see it as complaining. There's nothing you can do about it other than be more careful in the future with where your emails are getting sent. Other than that, use it as a learning experience and move on.
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Posted 11/12/07 9:40 PM
 

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Re: I feel awful.... sort of long...

Thanks ladies!!!!

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I just feel like everytime I see her now, she's going to be thinking, "Theres that awful girl who hates being a mother and rubs it into my face that she has a baby..."

but, it could just be me! Chat Icon

Posted 11/12/07 10:27 PM
 

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Re: I feel awful.... sort of long...

Just remember that the way someone perceives you isn't necessarily who you really areChat Icon Maybe start wearing a t-shirt that says "I hate meat" or something, and then you'll become the girl that she thinks, "Oh, there's that crazy girl who hates meat" when she sees you? Chat Icon No? It sounded like a good idea in my headChat Icon

Posted 11/12/07 10:30 PM
 

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Posted by prncss

Just remember that the way someone perceives you isn't necessarily who you really areChat Icon Maybe start wearing a t-shirt that says "I hate meat" or something, and then you'll become the girl that she thinks, "Oh, there's that crazy girl who hates meat" when she sees you? Chat Icon No? It sounded like a good idea in my headChat Icon



I can just walk around farting all the time - then I'll just be that smelly girl....

Posted 11/12/07 10:31 PM
 

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Posted by lipglossjunky73

Thanks ladies!!!!

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I just feel like everytime I see her now, she's going to be thinking, "Theres that awful girl who hates being a mother and rubs it into my face that she has a baby..."

but, it could just be me! Chat Icon



hey, i wouldnt worry too much about it. you did nothing wrong. its not like you knew about this girls issues. you are being too tough on yourself.Chat Icon

Posted 11/12/07 10:38 PM
 

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Re: I feel awful.... sort of long...

Posted by lipglossjunky73

I read what I wrote - and said something like,

"Unless you want to come to my house for dinner and have sweet potatoes and Similac, then I wont be able to join you guys unless I strap my kid to my back. Signed, Mommy with no life..."

But we always emailed each other silly things about whatever going on in our lives.....

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i think you were just being you and the comment was innocent. you didn't say anything harmful. i wouldn't feel bad. don't get me wrong, it is nice to be sensitive to the issue of infertility but i don't see how you were being insensitive. JMO.

Posted 11/12/07 10:49 PM
 

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Re: I feel awful.... sort of long...

You did nothing wrong. When I was trying to get pregnant, the only time anyone offended me was if their remarks were specifically about me having a baby or if the remarks were obviously a rub directed at me. Someone's remarks or jokes about their own kids or their own situation only helped me to continue to feel included.

Posted 11/13/07 12:14 AM
 
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