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"cultural" birth story...what's your opinion?

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Re: "cultural" birth story...what's your opinion?

I have had four children vaginally, and all I will say is my husband has no complaints. I have asked him before - but he assures me all is as well as pre-children.

I have never had a c-section, but I hear the recuperation is long - at least a lot longer than a vaginal birth. All I know is that I was well enough to mop the kitchen floor and take care of my other children the day after I got home from the hospital.

If I were going to have more children (which I am not), and I had the choice I would still go vaginal.

Message edited 8/6/2007 11:49:24 AM.

Posted 8/6/07 11:47 AM
 
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Re: "cultural" birth story...what's your opinion?

as a mom who had 2 vaginal births, I WISH I would have had c-sections...for this reason alone!
ask any mom of 2 or more, bathroom issues alone could become a problem! (TMI?!)

Posted 8/6/07 12:03 PM
 

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Re: "cultural" birth story...what's your opinion?

Posted by racheeeee

OMG when you have a C-section, not only are you having major abdominal surgery but you are also recovering with a brand new baby to take care of. So it must just be awful! Not to mention all the hospital bugs that are out there these days. So I just wonder if that is a fair trade-off for a flappy fanny???

Not to me it aint!



ITA.

Considering this was my reality a little over four months ago...

I Chat Icon ed that I wouldn't have a c-section and w/ twins there is a much higher chance I would have needed one. It's less common both babies are head down.

I don't know how I would have tried to heal from the section and cared for them, although I know plenty of twin mommies who have done it.

Thankfully, I've never needed an operationChat Icon

Sports Illustrated is definitely never calling me now as I look a bit like a pot-belly teddy bear. My stomach REALLY stretched and there is no way that skin is going back even if I got down to a size 2. It will always be a bit lose. DH is fine with it.

That being said, I'll take what I now have over a scheduled c-section.

Posted 8/6/07 12:05 PM
 

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Re: "cultural" birth story...what's your opinion?

Posted by ~Colleen~

Posted by libby2595

quirky side note.

i once dated a boy who said that women who already had kids had tighter hoohaahs than those who didn't.

his opinion was:
women who have kids want to make sure things still work, so they do keegles (sp?)



Funny...though he was sorta right. I've read (& have been told by btdt's) that women who deliver vaginally and tear/get an episiotomy, often wind up with a "younger" (tighter) vajayjay b/c of the way they're stitched up.



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Posted 8/6/07 12:11 PM
 

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Re: "cultural" birth story...what's your opinion?

Posted by BabyAvocado

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But I have yet to come across a doctor who would perform major abdominal surgery with NO medical reason whatsoever.

It has been discussed ad liem on that parenting board about the frequency of c-sections nowadays, but there has to be some sort of medical reason (even if it is just that the baby is too large).



It takes next to nothing to get a "medical reason" for a c-section.

Every other pg I hear about today it's "oh, I might need a c/s because the baby is too big" and it's an 8 pounder.

Sometimes all it takes is a due date around a holiday and the Dr is more than happy to do a scheduled C/S. Sad but true.



I don't, necessarily, agree with this. When my daughter was pregnant with her first child, she went to have a sonogram in her ninth month and was told the baby was breech and the baby was quite big. Her doctor called and told to get right to the hospital because they were going to do a c-section. She gets there, gets checked in and prepped, is on the operating table and they decide to do another sonogram. Lo and behold, the baby is not breech. They pack her up and send her home. They were not going to do an unnecessary medical procedure. She, ultimately, wound up having a c-section because he was so big, but, it wasn't until almost two weeks later. By this point in time, she could hardly walk. With the cost of malpractice insurance, doctors are more cautious than they used to be and won't do unnecessary procedures.

Posted 8/6/07 12:53 PM
 

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Re: "cultural" birth story...what's your opinion?

Posted by Maathy317

I don't, necessarily, agree with this. When my daughter was pregnant with her first child, she went to have a sonogram in her ninth month and was told the baby was breech and the baby was quite big. Her doctor called and told to get right to the hospital because they were going to do a c-section. She gets there, gets checked in and prepped, is on the operating table and they decide to do another sonogram. Lo and behold, the baby is not breech. They pack her up and send her home. They were not going to do an unnecessary medical procedure. She, ultimately, wound up having a c-section because he was so big, but, it wasn't until almost two weeks later. By this point in time, she could hardly walk. With the cost of malpractice insurance, doctors are more cautious than they used to be and won't do unnecessary procedures.




Can I ask how big the baby was?

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Posted 8/6/07 12:59 PM
 

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Re: "cultural" birth story...what's your opinion?

I actually contemplated this, but ultimately decided not too. The risk of something happening to myself or the baby in a surgery is too much. I don't think it's cultural, I think people in general don't look at a C-Section as major surgery. They just think it's an easier way to have a baby, when in reality it's not. Recovery time is longer, and there is always the chance for complications as with any major surgery.

I'm not against C-Sections. It's just that I personally have decided to go the natural route. And by natural I mean an epidural. Chat Icon

Posted 8/6/07 1:17 PM
 

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Re: "cultural" birth story...what's your opinion?

I would consider having an optional C-Section but I would do a lot of research first.

Posted 8/6/07 1:20 PM
 

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Re: "cultural" birth story...what's your opinion?

I am due in 8 weeks so this has been on my mind a LOT! I have several friends who have had babies recently. A couple of them were in labor for a while then had a c-section, and all of them who had c-sections said they would most def. doit again. The recoup was not that bad for them, I am sure everyone if different.

I too would prefer a c-section, but the risks scare me, and make me not want to have it. There are many risks with Vag. delivery too. My SIL had a very serious bleed from a cervical tear. Even though children are born every day, it is still a serious event. No decisions should be taken lightly.

Posted 8/6/07 2:23 PM
 

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Re: "cultural" birth story...what's your opinion?

Posted by randella

Maybe I am in the minority here, but I am PETRIFIED of what child birth would do to my vagina.

I would 100% have a c-section if given the choice to do whatever I wanted to.




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Could not agree with you more

Posted 8/6/07 2:33 PM
 

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Re: "cultural" birth story...what's your opinion?

Posted by libby2595

BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T WANT CHILD-BIRTH TO MESS WITH HER VAGINA!!!!!
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WHAT?! My vagina is ruined? HOLY CRAP no one told me! Wow I wouldn't have had my two kids that way had I only known.Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

My opinion on it is C-sections are major abdominal surgery. They should be only performed when medically necessary. Both v-births & c-births have their pros & cons. But if you're talking effects (WARNING GRAPHIC-TMI-YOU MAY NOT WANT TO READ IF YOU'RE PREGNANT)


for a C-section, they cut through abdominal muscles, TAKE OUT YOUR ORGANS to get to the baby. Then they put them back in (and I'm sure not exactly the way they were). Go search on Parenting for those people who have lingering issues from c-sections. There are very few long-term issues with v-births.

Do doctors do medically unnecessary c-sections? Absolutely. I don't think it's as prevalent as others do.

It disgusts me that people would cut the in-utereo development short because of a cosmetic reason. Every day a baby goes earlier than necessary can cause complications. I'm sure anyone with a premature baby thinks the same way.Chat Icon Chat Icon

Posted 8/6/07 2:43 PM
 

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Re: "cultural" birth story...what's your opinion?

hmmm...well I had a c-section after being in labor for 16 hours and I was so relieved when the Dr.s decided to do it (not really for that particular reason) but I definately look at it as one of the benefits of a c-section.

I thought labor was excruciatingly painful and my recovery from c-section was a breeze - I have had recovery from dental work that was more difficult - but thats just me.

I am really glad that when we have the next one it will be a c-section. I also find it interesting that most female ob/gyns also have c-sections when they have babies...(do as i say...)

Posted 8/6/07 3:20 PM
 

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Re: "cultural" birth story...what's your opinion?

I think someone scheduling a csection to preserve their hoo haa is ridiculous.

C sections should be done when needed, not as demanded. The recover for MOST people (not all) is pretty brutal. My friends who have had csections had a tough time, whereas I was walking around with him a few hours after giving birth.

And i can assure you all is exactly as it was prior to delivery HOWEVER right away it wasn't....but the vagina is one of those things that is made for this purpose and has the ability to go back to how it was...

I just don't get someone electing major surgery over a vaginal delivery. Of course i was scared before DS of what may happen, but now that I have been through it, it was not nearly as bad or big of a deal as I imagined!

Posted 8/6/07 4:04 PM
 

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Posted 8/6/07 4:41 PM
 

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Re: "cultural" birth story...what's your opinion?

well, i cant believe im saying this out loud

i REALLY dont want to give birth vaginally bc of this exact reason. Selfish and petty i know but i rather deal with weeks/ months of c section pain than a lifetime of a "less than perfect vajayjay in my crazy head" .....


but of course i wont ask for it and i would do whatever the doc thinks is best for my baby.
(but bc of my condition and surgery next year, i will be most likely having babies by way of csection)

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Posted 8/6/07 4:41 PM
 

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Re: "cultural" birth story...what's your opinion?

I think some of the celebrities do it 'cos they think they're "too posh to push"

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Posted 8/6/07 4:41 PM
 

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Re: "cultural" birth story...what's your opinion?

I don't think its a cultural thing at all. I ended up having a c/s with my first because he was breech - NOT becuase of his size (he was 9.7 at 37 weeks when he was born). I had a very easy recovery, but it was MAJOR surgery.

When it came time time for #2, I wanted nothing more than a VBAC. There was no way I was going to voluntarily subject myself to major surgery again with out a need. I ended up delivering #2 vaginally.

I can honestly say, having done it both ways, I would hands down, without a question, have a vaginal delivery again. I am 100% certain my vavajay is intact, tight as ever Chat Icon and nothing wrong with it at all. For me, I saw no advantage whatsoever with my c/s over my v-birth.

Posted 8/6/07 4:45 PM
 

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Re: "cultural" birth story...what's your opinion?

My SIL gave birth to a 10lb baby vaginally. Her next 3 were less in weight and all vaginal. Her fifth was a c-section because the baby went into distress, he was only 8 lbs.

My mom had six, all vaginally.

As far as I know, everything works like it should on the both of them.

Posted 8/6/07 5:00 PM
 

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Re: "cultural" birth story...what's your opinion?

I just had to have a c-section on the 1st. I REALLY did not want it. My obgyn knew that. He would have preferred that I have a regular delivery. My baby was a footling breach and my water broke. I was not a candidate for turning the baby. I tried a lot of the tricks and nothing worked. I was supposed to have a scheduled c-section two days after I delivered. Now that I have had the c-section, I will say I am glad that I did not have a failure to decend emergency c-section, but at the same time I wish that I could have had a regular delivery. Additionally, I had to have the on call dr deliver my baby. I did not even get my own ogyn.

Posted 8/6/07 5:07 PM
 

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Re: "cultural" birth story...what's your opinion?

i think that people who opt to have a c section for PURELY cosmetic reasons are way too selfish to have a baby.

do i UNDERSTAND the reasoning behind it? sure. . . but that is why i am nowhere near ready to have children

until i can ONLY consider my child's well being *OVER* my OWN ( and my FH's )sexual satisfaction and the "condition" of my vajayjay - i am pretty certain that i am not ready to have children

Posted 8/6/07 5:24 PM
 

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Re: "cultural" birth story...what's your opinion?

Posted by BabyAvocado

Posted by Maathy317

I don't, necessarily, agree with this. When my daughter was pregnant with her first child, she went to have a sonogram in her ninth month and was told the baby was breech and the baby was quite big. Her doctor called and told to get right to the hospital because they were going to do a c-section. She gets there, gets checked in and prepped, is on the operating table and they decide to do another sonogram. Lo and behold, the baby is not breech. They pack her up and send her home. They were not going to do an unnecessary medical procedure. She, ultimately, wound up having a c-section because he was so big, but, it wasn't until almost two weeks later. By this point in time, she could hardly walk. With the cost of malpractice insurance, doctors are more cautious than they used to be and won't do unnecessary procedures.




Can I ask how big the baby was?



They estimated the weight at 9lbs. 7oz.
My daughter is petite. Not a big person at all. When he, finally, was born he weighed in at 9lbs. 2oz. As I said, by the time he arrived, the pain in her hips was so bad she could hardly walk. When they were delivering him, they had to, literally, climb on top of her and press down very hard to get him out. I don't think she could have delivered him vaginally. They made very sure that a c-section was necessary.

Posted 8/6/07 5:29 PM
 

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Re: "cultural" birth story...what's your opinion?

I agree that overall C-Sections are done WAY more than is medically called for. A C-Section is supposed to be done in the event of medical emergency. Do you know that the Section rate on Long Island is over 50%?? It is true.. Ask you OB. My mom is an OB nurse ( a perinatal clinical nurse specialist currently pursuing her Doctorate at Columbia) and she is appalled at the "medical reasons" that dr's come up with for sections. She was recently at confreence with LI OB/GYN's where they announced like a 53% section rate for LI and the doctors cheered!!!!! And they the called for it to go higher. I really have a hard time with doctors telling us that over 50% of births have ended in an medical emergency!! It has a lot to do with the litigious society we live in.
If you do some research you will find that birthing practices in general are so backwards. People go to the hospital way to early.. They are strapped to monitor in bed and they are not permitted to walk around like they should (not quick spurts.. But really walk and move around). This slows labor. Then they get induced.. Increased pain.. They need an epidural.. slows it down again.. It is a crazy cycle. And like it or not you are on a time schedule.. It is not wonder that so many women get induced for failure to progress.
I hope I didn't offend anyone with this.. Of course birthing decisions are just that... your decisions but since we have been TTC I have been doing a lot of soul searching related to this topic. Of course all the info on both sides is skewed to the agenda of the author. I really think the truth is somewhere in between. But this is the reason I am leaving my practice and finding a midwife.

Posted 8/6/07 5:38 PM
 

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Re: "cultural" birth story...what's your opinion?

I had an 8 lb 9 oz baby vaginally, and I think my vajayjay has forgiven me. Chat Icon

Seriously, though, I was very grateful that I didn't have to have a c/s. The idea of any kind of surgery is terrifying. That part of your body is meant to snap back into shape, and mine has, for the most part. I'm 35, and if I want any part of me to look like it belongs to a teenager, I'd take my face over my hooha!!

Posted 8/6/07 6:32 PM
 

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Re: "cultural" birth story...what's your opinion?

One major problem with women having C-sections for wacko reasons is that it gives the people who medically need it a rough time and a bad name.

I absolutely must have a scheduled C-section but I am totally done defending the reasons. I have 4 gyn opinions and tons of research that points to C-section for my situation. My baby and I are the ones who have to go through it. I have come to terms with it and I am confident that my baby will receive the best care. I have not forgotten the fact that I will have to deliver earlier than is natural and that does weigh heavily on my mind. That is a much lesser risk, however, than a natural delivery (ETA......I mean lesser risk in my situation).

Fortunately, I do not feel that I am missing anything b/c I don't feel the need to pass a baby through my vagina in order to feel like a real woman. Childbirth is a means to an end and we each have a different story of our experiences no matter how we ultimately deliver.

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Posted 8/6/07 6:43 PM
 

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Re: "cultural" birth story...what's your opinion?

Posted by ssdbk

One major problem with women having C-sections for wacko reasons is that it gives the people who medically need it a rough time and a bad name.

I absolutely must have a scheduled C-section but I am totally done defending the reasons. I have 4 gyn opinions and tons of research that points to C-section for my situation. My baby and I are the ones who have to go through it. I have come to terms with it and I am confident that my baby will receive the best care. I have not forgotten the fact that I will have to deliver earlier than is natural and that does weigh heavily on my mind. That is a much lesser risk, however, than a natural delivery.

Fortunately, I do not feel that I am missing anything b/c I don't feel the need to pass a baby through my vagina in order to feel like a real woman. Childbirth is a means to an end and we each have a different story of our experiences no matter how we ultimately deliver.



ITA! And I applaud you for the decision you have made and for getting second opinions. I don't think you should have to defend it anyone. I agree that the increase in sections " gives the people who medically need it a rough time and a bad name" And no you don't have to have a vaginal birth to feel like a woman. That is silly. I am just horrifed by the amount of un-neccesary sections going on. Sections are around because some people (including yourself) really need them to preserve the life of the baby and themselves. I just think they have in many cases become overused. I wish you the best of luck with your little one and a speedy recovery!

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