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Re: work issues for those without children

Posted by Mikismom

Posted by BaseballWidow

And let's not forget the FUN they can have taking our posts and plastering them all over LIF so even those that don't crash get to get in on the action!



you are generalizing all of us by the actions of ONE poster...how is that okay?



It's not one and it has happened many times, including just this past weekend not to mention this topic as well.

Posted 7/6/09 11:17 AM
 

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Re: work issues for those without children

Posted by Kara

Posted by Mikismom

Posted by BaseballWidow

And let's not forget the FUN they can have taking our posts and plastering them all over LIF so even those that don't crash get to get in on the action!



you are generalizing all of us by the actions of ONE poster...how is that okay?


IIRC, this is not the only time this has happened.



Correct - it's happened before, and I'm sure it will happen again. And just think - if it's made it's way out to the parenting boards, imagine what's said in FM.

Posted 7/6/09 11:19 AM
 

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Re: work issues for those without children

Posted by Blazesyth



Correct - it's happened before, and I'm sure it will happen again. And just think - if it's made it's way out to the parenting boards, imagine what's said in FM.




Ahhh, but do you actually care? I'm guessing NOPE!! Chat Icon

Posted 7/6/09 11:22 AM
 

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Re: work issues for those without children

Posted by eddiesmommy
Being a parent is the most selfless job you will ever do.




[dirty breeder sneaks into the room]

I disagree, when you think about it... having a child is a very SELFISH thing... why else would you have a child? For your own benefit, no?

perhaps while raising that child you are more of a selfless person, but I think being a parent IS selfish... I didn't have my son b/c I felt my eggs deserved life... I had my son because *I* wanted a child... kinda selfish, no?

[dirty breeder sneaks out]

Posted 7/6/09 11:29 AM
 

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Re: work issues for those without children

ughh..these threads are really making me sad for not only myself but the other childless famlies. I just wanted this board to be a safe haven... to get away from it all.. but obviously not.. it sickens me Chat Icon

Posted 7/6/09 11:32 AM
 

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Re: work issues for those without children

Posted by BaseballWidow

Posted by Blazesyth



Correct - it's happened before, and I'm sure it will happen again. And just think - if it's made it's way out to the parenting boards, imagine what's said in FM.




Ahhh, but do you actually care? I'm guessing NOPE!! Chat Icon



Nah, not really. I just think it's funny how people can't control themselves. If I don't agree with the subject of the board, or if it doesnt pertain to me, then I don't visit it. Especially if I know that it's going to get me all riled up.

Posted 7/6/09 11:36 AM
 

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Re: work issues for those without children

Posted by Blazesyth



Nah, not really. I just think it's funny how people can't control themselves. If I don't agree with the subject of the board, or if it doesnt pertain to me, then I don't visit it. Especially if I know that it's going to get me all riled up.



I'm with ya. Sometimes I just have to jump in though, especially when it's on a board I feel needs and deserves more respect.

Posted 7/6/09 11:39 AM
 

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Re: work issues for those without children

Posted by BaseballWidow

Posted by Blazesyth



Nah, not really. I just think it's funny how people can't control themselves. If I don't agree with the subject of the board, or if it doesnt pertain to me, then I don't visit it. Especially if I know that it's going to get me all riled up.



I'm with ya. Sometimes I just have to jump in though, especially when it's on a board I feel needs and deserves more respect.



wait, why does one board deserve more respect than another? Chat Icon

Posted 7/6/09 11:40 AM
 

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Re: work issues for those without children

Posted by HeathKernandez



wait, why does one board deserve more respect than another? Chat Icon



I didn't say more respect then another board, more respect itself.

And I for one respect other boards, as in, I don't lurk/post where I don't feel I belong. And as a poster on this board I will fight for its respect.

Posted 7/6/09 11:44 AM
 

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Re: work issues for those without children

Posted by eddiesmommy
Being a parent is the most selfless job you will ever do.



Oh here we go with THIS.
That's right.
Having children is selfless.
Yes, yes, yes.
It's the hardest job in the world.
I heard that one too.
Because ALL of us child free people are nothing more than SELFISH a-holes. Our choice to not have children is because we are SELFISH and spoiled and like to lay around all day and do nothing but count all our money. All the money we have from not having kids, don't you know?
I, for one, sit around all day long and eat bonbons and watch TV.
I didn't even get a dog- too much responsibilty for a SELFISH person such as myself. Instead I got a cat- because they are self cleaning, they poop in a liter box, and you can leave them without supervision if you go away for a weekend.
And the hours I slave away at work- in a pressure cooker- putting up with sh!t from 100 d-bags a day, trekking to the city, etc etc etc... that is NOTHING. NOTHING compared to being a mom.

I know. I know. I was just hoping on that on this board I wouldn't be reminded of how selfish and lazy I am... but I guess not!

Posted 7/6/09 11:49 AM
 

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Re: work issues for those without children

Posted by BaseballWidow

And as a poster on this board I will fight for its respect.



oooooh rawr... fight on sister.

I understand what you're saying. I thought you were saying it deserved more respect than others... what you meant was more respect than what it is getting. I somewhat disagree, i think you DO get respect... one thing I've learned is to not take things so personally. I don't understand what its like to not have children anymore. and I try not to take offense when something can be misconstrued... perhaps some people can't control themselves. sometimes it happens but its not EVERYONE who feels that way.. just a random stray.

to be honest, I for one respect your board tremendously but I would love to feel welcomed here. There are numerous posts I do have something in common with but there is such an 'us' vs. 'them' vibe going on. (from ALL accounts, not just from the childfree)

The thing is, I don't get why you're asking people not to lurk here...You don't ALWAYS post about what its like to be childfree. Those posts I don't read... but there are so many other topics that could be on NFR that I would like to chime in on... KWIM?

please don't think people don't respect you just b/c they disagree.



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Posted 7/6/09 11:53 AM
 

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Re: work issues for those without children

Posted by HeathKernandez


please don't think people don't respect you just b/c they disagree.






I don't. We here on the CF board disagree ourselves.

What I find disrepectful is that I thouhgt I *FINALLY* found one little piece of the world where I could forget about what I don't have, where I could not have to be jealous of someone having something I want so badly, where I could take my mind off of things that usually result in crying and depression. But I guess I was wrong and even here, on what I thought would be a childless safe haven, I have to continue to deal with all those things. Does it make more sense now?

Posted 7/6/09 12:02 PM
 

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Re: work issues for those without children

Posted by HeathKernandez


to be honest, I for one respect your board tremendously but I would love to feel welcomed here.



And we would love to feel "safe" here to vent our frustrations and discuss certain things amongst ourselves.

Yes, there are other threads on here that might be of interest to a broader audience, but let's face it - those aren't the only threads parents are posting on. If they were, this wouldn't be an issue. But this thread was CLEARLY directed at CF posters and I explicitly asked for responses from CF posters and STILL got just as many parent responses as CF responses. I believe I posted once or twice on Parenting asking about age-appropriate gifts for nieces and nephews -- but I don't stick around and comment on threads about parents feeling overwhelmed or parents having a hard time with their bosses respecting their need to spend time with their kids or take care of their kids -- b/c they don't pertain to me.

I get that everyone with a kid was childless at some point, but they aren't childless now -- and yes, to many of us that is an important distinction here. I understand that many of the parents who post here don't truly understand why that is so important to us... but we're not asking you to understand it, we're just asking you to respect us when we request a little space -- or heck even one thread -- where we can discuss issues amongst ourselves.

Posted 7/6/09 12:06 PM
 

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Re: work issues for those without children

Posted by HeathKernandez

Posted by BaseballWidow

And as a poster on this board I will fight for its respect.



oooooh rawr... fight on sister.

I understand what you're saying. I thought you were saying it deserved more respect than others... what you meant was more respect than what it is getting. I somewhat disagree, i think you DO get the respect you want...

to be honest, I for one respect your board tremendously but I would love to feel welcomed here. There are numerous posts I do have something in common with but there is such an 'us' vs. 'them' vibe going on. (from ALL accounts, not just from the childfree)

The thing is, I don't get why you're asking people not to lurk here...You don't ALWAYS post about what its like to be childfree. Those posts I don't read... but there are so many other topics that could be on NFR that I would like to chime in on... KWIM?

please don't think people don't respect you just b/c they disagree.






While I appreciate parents chiming in once in a while to agree/disagree or offer another perspective, it is so often done disrespectfully, or the OP is completely misunderstood, taken out of context and disintegrates into drama.

So I just ignore it and go about my business. And try to crowd out the drama with other posts.

As for not wanting others to lurk here- I'm on the fence about it. I don't love the idea that people are reading and picking apart my life and my choices. I come here specifically to escape the judgement that being child free brings IRL.

On the other hand, I'll admit that I lurk on Pregnancy and Parenting. Not for myself, but for my BF, who is due to give birth in Nov. I lurk to try and be more sensitive to her as a pregnant woman, and later on, to her and her DH as parents. But I don't post, even when I feel very strongly about something, out of respect for those boards. Even if I agree with XYZ, I'll keep my thoughts to myself because I feel it's a bit presumptuous to be posting.

Posted 7/6/09 12:07 PM
 

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Re: work issues for those without children

Posted by BaseballWidow

Posted by HeathKernandez


please don't think people don't respect you just b/c they disagree.






I don't. We here on the CF board disagree ourselves.

What I find disrepectful is that I thouhgt I *FINALLY* found one little piece of the world where I could forget about what I don't have, where I could not have to be jealous of someone having something I want so badly, where I could take my mind off of things that usually result in crying and depression. But I guess I was wrong and even here, on what I thought would be a childless safe haven, I have to continue to deal with all those things. Does it make more sense now?



Unfortunately, I don't think you're going to find what your looking for on a site like this.

There are, however, different message boards & online communities that DO offer you what you want. a "childless safe haven" as you put it. I think the problem here is b/c you have so many people all in one place, in close proximity, people are bound to take things personally etc etc. On all sides. and unfortunately people are always going to lurk, etc. I honestly don't think you can have a "childless safe haven" on a board where there are parents etc. Someone is bound to disrupt your peace b/c they feel inclined to offer their opinion, especially when they take something you say personally.

I'm not saying it's not right... just how I personally feel.

Posted 7/6/09 12:07 PM
 

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Re: work issues for those without children

Posted by HeathKernandez


please don't think people don't respect you just b/c they disagree.






I think we have covered this issue on previous posts on this very thread. It's not about agreeing or disagreeing. I asked specifically in the OP if any CHILDLESS people had experienced the same thing. I really don't know how I could have made it clearer that I was looking to have a discussion with other CF posters. It's fine if parents don't understand WHY I wanted that, but it would have been nice for them to respect that request, considering the thread is on the CF board.

Posted 7/6/09 12:08 PM
 

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Re: work issues for those without children

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Posted by BaseballWidow

Posted by HeathKernandez


please don't think people don't respect you just b/c they disagree.






I don't. We here on the CF board disagree ourselves.

What I find disrepectful is that I thouhgt I *FINALLY* found one little piece of the world where I could forget about what I don't have, where I could not have to be jealous of someone having something I want so badly, where I could take my mind off of things that usually result in crying and depression. But I guess I was wrong and even here, on what I thought would be a childless safe haven, I have to continue to deal with all those things. Does it make more sense now?



Unfortunately, I don't think you're going to find what your looking for on a site like this.

There are, however, different message boards & online communities that DO offer you what you want. a "childless safe haven" as you put it. I think the problem here is b/c you have so many people all in one place, in close proximity, people are bound to take things personally etc etc. On all sides. and unfortunately people are always going to lurk, etc. I honestly don't think you can have a "childless safe haven" on a board where there are parents etc. Someone is bound to disrupt your peace b/c they feel inclined to offer their opinion, especially when they take something you say personally.

I'm not saying it's not right... just how I personally feel.



I really don't think it's so much to ask.

I don't read the Parenting board, so I have no idea... but do non-parents really come on there and throw in their two cents on parenting issues on a regular basis, on the majority of threads on that board? (Honest question - I have no idea.)

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Posted 7/6/09 12:09 PM
 

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Re: work issues for those without children

Posted by BaseballWidow

Posted by HeathKernandez


please don't think people don't respect you just b/c they disagree.






I don't. We here on the CF board disagree ourselves.

What I find disrepectful is that I thouhgt I *FINALLY* found one little piece of the world where I could forget about what I don't have, where I could not have to be jealous of someone having something I want so badly, where I could take my mind off of things that usually result in crying and depression. But I guess I was wrong and even here, on what I thought would be a childless safe haven, I have to continue to deal with all those things. Does it make more sense now?



I think the sad fact of the matter is that this forum is just one small piece of a huge board that is made up of people who are not like-minded or in the same mindset at all. I have stayed off this board even though there were a number of discussions I would have loved to contribute to- but I realize how unwelcome I am and have refrained.

THAT makes me Chat Icon to feel so unwelcome on a messageboard simply because I have kids. I love LIF and have always felt pretty comfortable posting on EVERY board- even the ones that don't pertain to me, because there are times I was able to contribute something useful.

If you truly want a "safe haven" you may need to venture off LIF to get away from those who might take offense or barge in on your topics.

I don't think I'VE contributed to people feeling like they can't speak their mind-I've purposely tried to stay off this board since the initial dramarific inception. Sorry if I've been a contributor though.

Posted 7/6/09 12:12 PM
 

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Re: work issues for those without children

Posted by Kara

Posted by HeathKernandez

Posted by BaseballWidow

Posted by HeathKernandez


please don't think people don't respect you just b/c they disagree.






I don't. We here on the CF board disagree ourselves.

What I find disrepectful is that I thouhgt I *FINALLY* found one little piece of the world where I could forget about what I don't have, where I could not have to be jealous of someone having something I want so badly, where I could take my mind off of things that usually result in crying and depression. But I guess I was wrong and even here, on what I thought would be a childless safe haven, I have to continue to deal with all those things. Does it make more sense now?



Unfortunately, I don't think you're going to find what your looking for on a site like this.

There are, however, different message boards & online communities that DO offer you what you want. a "childless safe haven" as you put it. I think the problem here is b/c you have so many people all in one place, in close proximity, people are bound to take things personally etc etc. On all sides. and unfortunately people are always going to lurk, etc. I honestly don't think you can have a "childless safe haven" on a board where there are parents etc. Someone is bound to disrupt your peace b/c they feel inclined to offer their opinion, especially when they take something you say personally.

I'm not saying it's not right... just how I personally feel.



I really don't think it's so much to ask.

I don't read the Parenting board, so I have no idea... but do non-parents really come on there and throw in their two cents on parenting issues on a regular basis, on the majority of threads on that board? (Honest question - I have no idea.)



not on the majority of the posts, but they do and it really goes unnoticed.

The thing is... I think the reason why tehre is so much attention to this *debate* is because of 2 things:

1. this board doesn't always have a lot of posts..

2. a lot of the posts have to do with issues like the one kara posted and I can understand why parents felt they needed to chime in... or like posts about should kids be able to be in 1st class. Why should only the childfree be the only ones to chime in... wouldn't that be biased?

but we all know its a never ending debate, so I'll give you the respect of saying, I understand where you are coming from...


ETA; ooops sorry kara, I didn't realize it was YOU I was replying to... haha

also, no it isn't much to ask for... but I just don't think its going to happen here. sadly.

Message edited 7/6/2009 12:18:36 PM.

Posted 7/6/09 12:15 PM
 

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Re: work issues for those without children

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Posted by BaseballWidow

Posted by HeathKernandez


please don't think people don't respect you just b/c they disagree.






I don't. We here on the CF board disagree ourselves.

What I find disrepectful is that I thouhgt I *FINALLY* found one little piece of the world where I could forget about what I don't have, where I could not have to be jealous of someone having something I want so badly, where I could take my mind off of things that usually result in crying and depression. But I guess I was wrong and even here, on what I thought would be a childless safe haven, I have to continue to deal with all those things. Does it make more sense now?



I think the sad fact of the matter is that this forum is just one small piece of a huge board that is made up of people who are not like-minded or in the same mindset at all. I have stayed off this board even though there were a number of discussions I would have loved to contribute to- but I realize how unwelcome I am and have refrained.

THAT makes me Chat Icon to feel so unwelcome on a messageboard simply because I have kids. I love LIF and have always felt pretty comfortable posting on EVERY board- even the ones that don't pertain to me, because there are times I was able to contribute something useful.

If you truly want a "safe haven" you may need to venture off LIF to get away from those who might take offense or barge in on your topics.

I don't think I'VE contributed to people feeling like they can't speak their mind-I've purposely tried to stay off this board since the initial dramarific inception. Sorry if I've been a contributor though.



We shouldn't have to go anywhere else and if TPTB thought we should, they wouldn't have created this board. I don't read the Parenting board, but I find it difficult to imagine that it would be welcomed if non-parents posted their input on parenting issues on a regular basis, on nearly every thread on that board.

Posted 7/6/09 12:17 PM
 

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Re: work issues for those without children

Posted by Kara

Posted by HeathKernandez

Posted by BaseballWidow

Posted by HeathKernandez


please don't think people don't respect you just b/c they disagree.






I don't. We here on the CF board disagree ourselves.

What I find disrepectful is that I thouhgt I *FINALLY* found one little piece of the world where I could forget about what I don't have, where I could not have to be jealous of someone having something I want so badly, where I could take my mind off of things that usually result in crying and depression. But I guess I was wrong and even here, on what I thought would be a childless safe haven, I have to continue to deal with all those things. Does it make more sense now?



Unfortunately, I don't think you're going to find what your looking for on a site like this.

There are, however, different message boards & online communities that DO offer you what you want. a "childless safe haven" as you put it. I think the problem here is b/c you have so many people all in one place, in close proximity, people are bound to take things personally etc etc. On all sides. and unfortunately people are always going to lurk, etc. I honestly don't think you can have a "childless safe haven" on a board where there are parents etc. Someone is bound to disrupt your peace b/c they feel inclined to offer their opinion, especially when they take something you say personally.

I'm not saying it's not right... just how I personally feel.



I really don't think it's so much to ask.

I don't read the Parenting board, so I have no idea... but do non-parents really come on there and throw in their two cents on parenting issues on a regular basis, on the majority of threads on that board? (Honest question - I have no idea.)



Sometimes- but it's definitely not a regular occurance. I think the difference here is that 99% of the posts on Parenting are related to child-rearingon whereas on THIS board there are often topics that parents feel they could easily contribute to. Plus, many of us are "older" parents and spent a LONG time as childless, so at least *I* thought we could be contributors to some discussions as well.

I will say I now understand as a person with kids, that my opinion/contributions are NOT welcome here at all.

Posted 7/6/09 12:18 PM
 

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Re: work issues for those without children

Posted by Kara


We shouldn't have to go anywhere else and if TPTB thought we should, they wouldn't have created this board.



no you shouldn't.. I totally agree with you.. Chat Icon

Posted 7/6/09 12:20 PM
 

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Re: work issues for those without children

Posted by Porrruss

If you truly want a "safe haven" you may need to venture off LIF to get away from those who might take offense or barge in on your topics.




But why should I have to leave? I have made friends here too. People I like to chat with on this board and others. Why can't people just learn respect and leave well enough alone? I honestly don't think it's aking too much for adults to show a little respect, courtesy and restraint.

Posted 7/6/09 12:21 PM
 

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Re: work issues for those without children

Posted by Kara

Posted by Porrruss

Posted by BaseballWidow

Posted by HeathKernandez


please don't think people don't respect you just b/c they disagree.






I don't. We here on the CF board disagree ourselves.

What I find disrepectful is that I thouhgt I *FINALLY* found one little piece of the world where I could forget about what I don't have, where I could not have to be jealous of someone having something I want so badly, where I could take my mind off of things that usually result in crying and depression. But I guess I was wrong and even here, on what I thought would be a childless safe haven, I have to continue to deal with all those things. Does it make more sense now?



I think the sad fact of the matter is that this forum is just one small piece of a huge board that is made up of people who are not like-minded or in the same mindset at all. I have stayed off this board even though there were a number of discussions I would have loved to contribute to- but I realize how unwelcome I am and have refrained.

THAT makes me Chat Icon to feel so unwelcome on a messageboard simply because I have kids. I love LIF and have always felt pretty comfortable posting on EVERY board- even the ones that don't pertain to me, because there are times I was able to contribute something useful.

If you truly want a "safe haven" you may need to venture off LIF to get away from those who might take offense or barge in on your topics.

I don't think I'VE contributed to people feeling like they can't speak their mind-I've purposely tried to stay off this board since the initial dramarific inception. Sorry if I've been a contributor though.



We shouldn't have to go anywhere else and if TPTB thought we should, they wouldn't have created this board. I don't read the Parenting board, but I find it difficult to imagine that it would be welcomed if non-parents posted their input on parenting issues on a regular basis, on nearly every thread on that board.



Kara, please know I am NOT saying you all should go somewhere else. I don't mean that at ALL. What I meant was that *this* argument is likely going to ALWAYS happen because of the nature of LIF in general.

Of all the boards on LIF- this is the ONLY one that seems to need it's own exclusivity of members in order for it to *work*.

Posted 7/6/09 12:22 PM
 

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Re: work issues for those without children

Posted by Porrruss

Posted by Kara

Posted by HeathKernandez

Posted by BaseballWidow

Posted by HeathKernandez


please don't think people don't respect you just b/c they disagree.






I don't. We here on the CF board disagree ourselves.

What I find disrepectful is that I thouhgt I *FINALLY* found one little piece of the world where I could forget about what I don't have, where I could not have to be jealous of someone having something I want so badly, where I could take my mind off of things that usually result in crying and depression. But I guess I was wrong and even here, on what I thought would be a childless safe haven, I have to continue to deal with all those things. Does it make more sense now?



Unfortunately, I don't think you're going to find what your looking for on a site like this.

There are, however, different message boards & online communities that DO offer you what you want. a "childless safe haven" as you put it. I think the problem here is b/c you have so many people all in one place, in close proximity, people are bound to take things personally etc etc. On all sides. and unfortunately people are always going to lurk, etc. I honestly don't think you can have a "childless safe haven" on a board where there are parents etc. Someone is bound to disrupt your peace b/c they feel inclined to offer their opinion, especially when they take something you say personally.

I'm not saying it's not right... just how I personally feel.



I really don't think it's so much to ask.

I don't read the Parenting board, so I have no idea... but do non-parents really come on there and throw in their two cents on parenting issues on a regular basis, on the majority of threads on that board? (Honest question - I have no idea.)



Sometimes- but it's definitely not a regular occurance. I think the difference here is that 99% of the posts on Parenting are related to child-rearingon whereas on THIS board there are often topics that parents feel they could easily contribute to. Plus, many of us are "older" parents and spent a LONG time as childless, so at least *I* thought we could be contributors to some discussions as well.

I will say I now understand as a person with kids, that my opinion/contributions are NOT welcome here at all.



If you've read this thread in its entirety, you've seen that I already addressed the "all parents were once childless argument" and explained why it just really doesn't fly with most of us. The fact of the matter is that you are NOT childless now and yes, to many of us, that's a big distinction.

Honestly, when someone posts a thread on the CF board explicitly asking for responses from childless people, parents contributions really aren't welcome or sought... just as my contributions wouldn't welcome or sought on a thread asking for responses only from parents, men, newlyweds, singles, or any other group of people to which I don't currently belong. It's not an attempt to be obnoxious - it's just looking to have a conversation with people who are currently similarly situated. Apparently, though, that's too much to ask here.

I thought the drama over this stuff had died down and this was my FINAL attempt to use this board as I hoped it would operate. I know better now -- and I'm done.

Message edited 7/6/2009 12:25:02 PM.

Posted 7/6/09 12:23 PM
 
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