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DiamondGirl
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Re: Teacher comment is this appropriate? ** updated
Posted by MarisaK
Why is the teacher's response being questioned, rather than the students' behavior?
If my kid came home and told me the teacher said that, I'd tell him to behave himself in class and stop pushing the teacher to the point of insanity.
She's not REALLY going to force them to all fail. I mean, come on ........
By and large parents today do question the teacher before the child and that is a problem.
I do not think that the teachers response was 100% appropriate but I also think that when we as parents concern ourselves only with the teachers side we empower our kids to misbehave in class bc they know when they come home we will worry about what the teacher did and not what they did to illicit such a response.
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StaceyWill
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Re: Teacher comment is this appropriate? ** updated
Posted by drpepper318
Posted by MerryChristmas
*update - the test was scheduled for Friday (tomorrow)
They walked into class today and she told them she decided to move the test up to today. A majority of the class expressed concern that the test wasn't supposed to be until tomorrow and they weren't prepared. She told them "well that's not really my problem so deal with it."
THIS I would have a major problem with. I'd complain about her moving up the date of the test without warning. I'd go to the principal over it absolutely.
THIS! Totally unfair to move the test up. NOW, I'd be pissed.
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| Posted 11/4/16 8:50 AM |
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BriBri2u
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Re: Teacher comment is this appropriate? ** updated
Posted by StaceyWill
Posted by drpepper318
Posted by MerryChristmas
*update - the test was scheduled for Friday (tomorrow)
They walked into class today and she told them she decided to move the test up to today. A majority of the class expressed concern that the test wasn't supposed to be until tomorrow and they weren't prepared. She told them "well that's not really my problem so deal with it."
THIS I would have a major problem with. I'd complain about her moving up the date of the test without warning. I'd go to the principal over it absolutely.
THIS! Totally unfair to move the test up. NOW, I'd be pissed.
NOW I would be pissed! I would be heading to the school or calling the principal over this one.
I am all for having respect for teachers and children behaving in school. However, I DO NOT have respect for such vindictive ways like this. These are the teachers that need to go.
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| Posted 11/4/16 9:25 AM |
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DiamondGirl
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Teacher comment is this appropriate? ** updated
out of curiosity what grade level is this?
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| Posted 11/4/16 9:42 AM |
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BargainMama
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Teacher comment is this appropriate? ** updated
This teacher sounds like she picked the wrong profession. Just like there are bad doctors, lawyers, cops, there ARE bad teachers. We have had a couple of them. I would definitely speak to the Principal about the test. That really isn't fair at all.
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| Posted 11/4/16 10:40 AM |
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jamnmore
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Teacher comment is this appropriate? ** updated
Personally I have no problem with the teachers original comment or moving the test. The material should have all been covered and I highly doubt that any new material would have been covered in class Thursday that would be on the test Friday.
You state that it was not the whole class that only 4 children were misbehaving. But those 4 children cause a distraction for all of the children and make it difficult to learn for the entire class. I think children need to have group responsibility as well as individual responsibility. That is the way it is in the real world and we are never too young to learn that.
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| Posted 11/4/16 11:27 AM |
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BargainMama
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Re: Teacher comment is this appropriate? ** updated
Posted by jamnmore
Personally I have no problem with the teachers original comment or moving the test. The material should have all been covered and I highly doubt that any new material would have been covered in class Thursday that would be on the test Friday.
You state that it was not the whole class that only 4 children were misbehaving. But those 4 children cause a distraction for all of the children and make it difficult to learn for the entire class. I think children need to have group responsibility as well as individual responsibility. That is the way it is in the real world and we are never too young to learn that.
Ohh I would have a HUGE problem if my daughter's 4th grade teacher said the test was on Friday, then moved it to Thursday. In my DD's class, the majority of the content is NOT covered in class for social studies and science, and they are required to study that on their own with the notes and text book provided at home. One less day of studying could definitely be the difference between a 100 and a much lower grade IMO.
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| Posted 11/4/16 11:49 AM |
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MarisaK
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Re: Teacher comment is this appropriate? ** updated
Posted by StaceyWill
Posted by drpepper318
Posted by MerryChristmas
*update - the test was scheduled for Friday (tomorrow)
They walked into class today and she told them she decided to move the test up to today. A majority of the class expressed concern that the test wasn't supposed to be until tomorrow and they weren't prepared. She told them "well that's not really my problem so deal with it."
THIS I would have a major problem with. I'd complain about her moving up the date of the test without warning. I'd go to the principal over it absolutely.
THIS! Totally unfair to move the test up. NOW, I'd be pissed.
Ok now I've changed my tune b/c THIS update is absolutely unacceptable
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| Posted 11/4/16 12:00 PM |
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Re: Teacher comment is this appropriate? ** updated
Posted by jamnmore
Personally I have no problem with the teachers original comment or moving the test. The material should have all been covered and I highly doubt that any new material would have been covered in class Thursday that would be on the test Friday.
You state that it was not the whole class that only 4 children were misbehaving. But those 4 children cause a distraction for all of the children and make it difficult to learn for the entire class. I think children need to have group responsibility as well as individual responsibility. That is the way it is in the real world and we are never too young to learn that.
It wasn't about covering new material. They had 3 other tests scheduled for the week. He prioritized his study time according to the time line he had.
If you had 4 different presentations to give in one week at work, wouldn't you prepare them in the order in which you had to give them? You wouldn't work on the one due Friday before the one due Tuesday right?
That's exactly what happened here.
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| Posted 11/5/16 8:08 AM |
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beachgirl
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Re: Teacher comment is this appropriate? ** updated
Completely out of line.As someone else said all professions have people working in them that basically should not be there - teaching is no different. I will ALWAYS advocate for my child and other kids and this was out of line. If you as an adult knew you had a test on friday but your boss arrived in on thursday morning and said "right you will take the test today and I don't basically care if you are prepared or not" you would be royally pissed.
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| Posted 11/5/16 9:03 PM |
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KarenK122
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Teacher comment is this appropriate? ** updated
What grade is this?
The first comment would not bother me at all. As far as having the test early. I find that strange as now a days the teachers are graded on how their students do and for her/him to give a test were everyone is going to fail is doing more harm to the teacher than the student. I think there is another side to the story that we are missing here.
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| Posted 11/5/16 10:01 PM |
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M514
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Re: Teacher comment is this appropriate? ** updated
Posted by KarenK122
What grade is this?
The first comment would not bother me at all. As far as having the test early. I find that strange as now a days the teachers are graded on how their students do and for her/him to give a test were everyone is going to fail is doing more harm to the teacher than the student. I think there is another side to the story that we are missing here.
That's what I said too. Why would the teacher want everyone to fail?? It would reflect badly on her as a teacher. There has to be more to the story.
Did you try contacting the teacher and asking what is going on???
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| Posted 11/6/16 7:28 AM |
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Re: Teacher comment is this appropriate? ** updated
I don't think it's appropriate classroom management to threaten to make tests purposely hard and designed to fail kids as punishment for bad behavior or not listening. Or to give the test early for same reasons.
I think academics should not be tied to punishment, especially in an environment that is anxiety provoking for many kids (in the age of common core curriculum, state testing).
If kids aren't behaving, then I think their should be consequences, but more along the lines of losing privileges/fun stuff. I know classes in DS's school can lose "Fun Friday" time and that type of thing. They also try to do positive reinforcement -- good behavior can earn them a party (like a pajama party at school where they can watch part of a movie or something).
But my DS is in second grade; I'm sure older grades are different.
I'd probably let it go if it's a one-off thing with the teacher, but if it's a pattern, then I think it's ok to raise it with her and see what her thinking is. I would get the full story before judging it or taking an accusatory approach, though.
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| Posted 11/6/16 12:20 PM |
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StarsStripes
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Re: Teacher comment is this appropriate? ** updated
Posted by MerryChristmas
How would you feel if your child's teacher told the entire class that if they didn't behave they would make the social studies test so hard that everyone would fail?
Teachers please feel free to chime in. Curious to hear opinions.
*update - the test was scheduled for Friday (tomorrow)
They walked into class today and she told them she decided to move the test up to today. A majority of the class expressed concern that the test wasn't supposed to be until tomorrow and they weren't prepared. She told them "well that's not really my problem so deal with it."
Not ok and IMO and experience that teacher would get in trouble with administration, especially if parents called the principal. Will the test count? Is this just a learning lesson for the kids to behave? id seek more answers, totally unfair to the kids who were behaving.
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PitterPatter11
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Teacher comment is this appropriate? ** updated
The initial comment I would chalk up to am empty thread. I'm a teacher and there's no way I'm changing a test once it's been made.
The changing of the test day with no notice is messed up!!! I would never assume my students are prepared for a test the day before I was suppose to give it. I will say though that my students are always surprised by test day. We get a review sheet two days before and then we go over it in class. The next day they're like, what? We have a test.
ETA: teacher scores are based on state tests not locally administered exams. So if they do poorly, it will technically not be reflected in her evaluation.
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