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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
Posted by twicethefun
Although I do encourage him to lick all the toys when he is sick.
I mean if I can get more parents like you to keep their kids home my kid has a better teacher to child ratio...especially when he has a cold.
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
Posted by leighla
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You decide to put him to school/daycare. That does not mean your kid is not sick. That's the bottom line of the issue.
It's not about career options, etc.. It's about sending a kid sick to school. Plain and simple!
I love when people try to put it back on other. The rational is easy. DS got sick because people sent sick kids to school. Let's not turn the tables here. There is no need to tell me that people need to feed their kid. I do too. Everybody does!
You make it sound like I wake up in the morning and say:
"Are you coughing Logan? You are? Good - daycare for you!!!"
I don't have the option to keep him home each and every time he has a runny nose.
Especially at this age when a runny nose could be teething for crying out loud.
If you understand that I need to feed my kid (as you do yours) then what is your proposed alternative if I cannot take off of work for each and every sniffle?
Seriously - I want to know.
Again, it does not change the fact that because you cannot take off, you decide to send a kid that may be sick to daycare/school.
And let's be honest, there is a difference between teething and a runny nose, cough.
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leighla
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
Posted by smdl
Again, it does not change the fact that because you cannot take off, you decide to send a kid that may be sick to daycare/school.
And let's be honest, there is a difference between teething and a runny nose, cough.
So I want to hear what your answer is.
What should I do if I can't get off and my kid has what I deem to be harmless sniffles?
(And I'm glad you can tell the difference - I sure as helll couldn't the first couple of years.)
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
Clear boogies and a cough can also be seasonal allergies. I *think* most Mom's know when their child is really sick.
I have worked in day care for over 20 years and I know there are a few that dose them with Motrin and send them in only to be sent home 6 hours later with a 102+ fever. BUT that is few and far between most Mom's will keep their child home when they are really sick.
Truthfully if your day care is cleaning they way they should (I am talking about as per our regs) and washing their hands A LOT sickness would be cut down.
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
Posted by twicethefun
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Posted by leighla
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DS was in daycare until he was 11 months. I DO know what daycare is like. I had to make adjustment to our life and removed DS from daycare. He was getting sick every 2-3 weeks.
Again, good for you that you have that option.
I don't.
Or else I'll be on welfare and food stamps and someone will yell at me for not working for my kid's sake.
Homeless or going to daycare with the sniffles....hmmmmm.
If Logan has a fever, green snots, barking cough, etc, he stays home.
I do find a way.
But for a regular runny nose and cough, he's going to school.
And I would expect if a child in daycare had a compromised immune system or other serious health issue that precludes him from being in a germ-shared environment that his or her parents find another way. Looks like you did, so good.
I think your feeling that we are saying screw you, we don't care is mirrored right back. It's like you are saying, screw your job, I don't care.
I don't think this is an argument that can be won on either side.
It does change the fact that a kid with a runny nose and cough is sick. That has nothing to do with your options. You decide to put him to school/daycare. That does not mean your kid is not sick. That's the bottom line of the issue.
It's not about career options, etc.. It's about sending a kid sick to school. Plain and simple!
I love when people try to put it back on other. The rational is easy. DS got sick because people sent sick kids to school. Let's not turn the tables here. There is no need to tell me that people need to feed their kid. I do too. Everybody does!
Ummm I think I would delete this post at this point. Sometimes we do not know everyone elses full circumstances.
And you can't prove that my kid got your kid sick. Although I do encourage him to lick all the toys when he is sick. I mean if I can get more parents like you to keep their kids home my kid has a better teacher to child ratio...especially when he has a cold.
I happen to think I am responsible. I do care about not making other people sick.
I do care that I see PG women and cancelled all my pregnancy appointments or my clients with young children when DS got Fifth Disease. That if I get a cold, I don't see someone with a deficient immune system or a PG woman who would curse me out if I made her sick knowing I had a runny nose and still decided to see her. I know she can't take meds if she gets sick. Which means less $$ for me BTW. I do care!!!
I guess we all do what we believe in.
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
For the past full week, either one or the other, has had sniffles (clear) and an on and off cough.
The only day that they missed was last Friday when DS had a fever the night before.
Guess what it was????
MOLARS!
They went to daycare.
I don't know any job that would have allowed me to miss 4 workdays in one week due to teething
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
Posted by Tah-wee-ZAH
For the past full week, either one or the other, has had sniffles (clear) and an on and off cough.
The only day that they missed was last Friday when DS had a fever the night before.
Guess what it was????
MOLARS!
They went to daycare.
I don't know any job that would have allowed me to miss 4 workdays in one week due to teething
Exactly!
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
Posted by leighla
Posted by smdl
Again, it does not change the fact that because you cannot take off, you decide to send a kid that may be sick to daycare/school.
And let's be honest, there is a difference between teething and a runny nose, cough.
So I want to hear what your answer is.
What should I do if I can't get off and my kid has what I deem to be harmless sniffles?
(And I'm glad you can tell the difference - I sure as helll couldn't the first couple of years.)
I work PT. I work my butt off on weekends to make as much $$$ as possible. That's what I do. DH works during the week. I work on weekends. We never have a day off together.
You see, there are options.
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
Posted by smdl
I work PT. I work my butt off on weekends to make as much $$$ as possible. That's what I do. DH works during the week. I work on weekends. We never have a day off together.
You see, there are options.
Some people are single parents and don't have those options.
I thought this was initially a question of when to keep a kid home sick from nursery or pre-school. How did it turn into this?
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
Posted by smdl
Posted by twicethefun
Posted by smdl
Posted by leighla
Posted by smdl
DS was in daycare until he was 11 months. I DO know what daycare is like. I had to make adjustment to our life and removed DS from daycare. He was getting sick every 2-3 weeks.
Again, good for you that you have that option.
I don't.
Or else I'll be on welfare and food stamps and someone will yell at me for not working for my kid's sake.
Homeless or going to daycare with the sniffles....hmmmmm.
If Logan has a fever, green snots, barking cough, etc, he stays home.
I do find a way.
But for a regular runny nose and cough, he's going to school.
And I would expect if a child in daycare had a compromised immune system or other serious health issue that precludes him from being in a germ-shared environment that his or her parents find another way. Looks like you did, so good.
I think your feeling that we are saying screw you, we don't care is mirrored right back. It's like you are saying, screw your job, I don't care.
I don't think this is an argument that can be won on either side.
It does change the fact that a kid with a runny nose and cough is sick. That has nothing to do with your options. You decide to put him to school/daycare. That does not mean your kid is not sick. That's the bottom line of the issue.
It's not about career options, etc.. It's about sending a kid sick to school. Plain and simple!
I love when people try to put it back on other. The rational is easy. DS got sick because people sent sick kids to school. Let's not turn the tables here. There is no need to tell me that people need to feed their kid. I do too. Everybody does!
Ummm I think I would delete this post at this point. Sometimes we do not know everyone elses full circumstances.
And you can't prove that my kid got your kid sick. Although I do encourage him to lick all the toys when he is sick. I mean if I can get more parents like you to keep their kids home my kid has a better teacher to child ratio...especially when he has a cold.
I happen to think I am responsible. I do care about not making other people sick.
I do care that I see PG women and cancelled all my pregnancy appointments or my clients with young children when DS got Fifth Disease. That if I get a cold, I don't see someone with a deficient immune system or a PG woman who would curse me out if I made her sick knowing I had a runny nose and still decided to see her. I know she can't take meds if she gets sick. Which means less $$ for me BTW. I do care!!!
I guess we all do what we believe in.
I am glad that you can afford to do that. But you are talking about losing money...not losing your job or your home. If I take off too much my job will be gone. I can't afford to do that. I have NO choice. I must work. It is not a matter of staying in on a weekend to save money. It is a matter of survival. This is what I have to do.
It is only a choice if there is another reasonable option.
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
Posted by smdl
Posted by leighla
Posted by smdl
Again, it does not change the fact that because you cannot take off, you decide to send a kid that may be sick to daycare/school.
And let's be honest, there is a difference between teething and a runny nose, cough.
So I want to hear what your answer is.
What should I do if I can't get off and my kid has what I deem to be harmless sniffles?
(And I'm glad you can tell the difference - I sure as helll couldn't the first couple of years.)
I work PT. I work my butt off on weekends to make as much $$$ as possible. That's what I do. DH works during the week. I work on weekends. We never have a day off together.
You see, there are options.
And what if there is only one parent? Then what is that parent supposed to do? Work days, nights and weekends to make enough money to save up in case they have to take a day off?
You have an unfortunate circumstance with your child who is prone to illness. But you seriously can't expect other people to alter *their* lifestyle so that *your* son doesn't get sick.
That's just not reasonable. It's not rational. You have to do what is best for you, as others have to do what is best for them.
It's not a matter of not caring or being irresponsible. It's a matter of living your life.
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
Posted by smdl
Posted by leighla
Posted by smdl
Again, it does not change the fact that because you cannot take off, you decide to send a kid that may be sick to daycare/school.
And let's be honest, there is a difference between teething and a runny nose, cough.
So I want to hear what your answer is.
What should I do if I can't get off and my kid has what I deem to be harmless sniffles?
(And I'm glad you can tell the difference - I sure as helll couldn't the first couple of years.)
I work PT. I work my butt off on weekends to make as much $$$ as possible. That's what I do. DH works during the week. I work on weekends. We never have a day off together.
You see, there are options.
But you are self-employed, right?
Lauren works in the corporate world and while she has great benefits and some flexibility they can only be stretched so far, no matter how long she has been at her company.
She still has a boss, there is still company policy.
As a teacher I get a lot of time "off" however, it is not flexible time.
My DD is feeling "eh" right now. It's the molars.
If no fever presents itself, she's going to daycare tomorrow.
Why??
I have to leave the house at 5:50 am to teach other parents' children and then be back at school until 9 pm to meet all of the parents.
It would NOT go over well to miss that night. No one misses that night.
I already missed today for jury duty.
No Suffolk Co. judge wanted to hear about my child having a snotty nose. I served.
Those in the corp/academic world don't often have flexible schedules.
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
I feel this whole thread is a justification party of why people should send their sick kid to school.
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
Posted by smdl
Posted by leighla
Posted by smdl
Again, it does not change the fact that because you cannot take off, you decide to send a kid that may be sick to daycare/school.
And let's be honest, there is a difference between teething and a runny nose, cough.
So I want to hear what your answer is.
What should I do if I can't get off and my kid has what I deem to be harmless sniffles?
(And I'm glad you can tell the difference - I sure as helll couldn't the first couple of years.)
I work PT. I work my butt off on weekends to make as much $$$ as possible. That's what I do. DH works during the week. I work on weekends. We never have a day off together.
You see, there are options.
Not everyone has that option
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
Posted by Tah-wee-ZAH
Posted by smdl
Posted by leighla
Posted by smdl
Again, it does not change the fact that because you cannot take off, you decide to send a kid that may be sick to daycare/school.
And let's be honest, there is a difference between teething and a runny nose, cough.
So I want to hear what your answer is.
What should I do if I can't get off and my kid has what I deem to be harmless sniffles?
(And I'm glad you can tell the difference - I sure as helll couldn't the first couple of years.)
I work PT. I work my butt off on weekends to make as much $$$ as possible. That's what I do. DH works during the week. I work on weekends. We never have a day off together.
You see, there are options.
But you are self-employed, right?
Lauren works in the corporate world and while she has great benefits and some flexibility they can only be stretched so far, no matter how long she has been at her company.
She still has a boss, there is still company policy.
As a teacher I get a lot of time "off" however, it is not flexible time.
My DD is feeling "eh" right now. It's the molars.
If no fever presents itself, she's going to daycare tomorrow.
Why??
I have to leave the house at 5:50 am to teach other parents' children and then be back at school until 9 pm to meet all of the parents.
It would NOT go over well to miss that night. No one misses that night.
I already missed today for jury duty.
No Suffolk Co. judge wanted to hear about my child having a snotty nose. I served.
Those in the corp/academic world don't often have flexible schedules.
I worked in corporate for 15 years before changing career. Don't assume I don't know what goes on in an office.
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
Posted by Palebride
You have an unfortunate circumstance with your child who is prone to illness. But you seriously can't expect other people to alter *their* lifestyle so that *your* son doesn't get sick.
That's just not reasonable. It's not rational. You have to do what is best for you, as others have to do what is best for them.
It's not a matter of not caring or being irresponsible. It's a matter of living your life.
This is exactly the issue!
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
Posted by Palebride
Posted by smdl
Posted by leighla
Posted by smdl
Again, it does not change the fact that because you cannot take off, you decide to send a kid that may be sick to daycare/school.
And let's be honest, there is a difference between teething and a runny nose, cough.
So I want to hear what your answer is.
What should I do if I can't get off and my kid has what I deem to be harmless sniffles?
(And I'm glad you can tell the difference - I sure as helll couldn't the first couple of years.)
I work PT. I work my butt off on weekends to make as much $$$ as possible. That's what I do. DH works during the week. I work on weekends. We never have a day off together.
You see, there are options.
And what if there is only one parent? Then what is that parent supposed to do? Work days, nights and weekends to make enough money to save up in case they have to take a day off?
You have an unfortunate circumstance with your child who is prone to illness. But you seriously can't expect other people to alter *their* lifestyle so that *your* son doesn't get sick.
That's just not reasonable. It's not rational. You have to do what is best for you, as others have to do what is best for them.
It's not a matter of not caring or being irresponsible. It's a matter of living your life.
ITA!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
Posted by smdl
I feel this whole thread is a justification party of why people should send their sick kid to school.
Really?
I don't think anyone is saying they send their kid in sick on purpose. I see a lot of people saying they sometimes have to send their child in with a runny nose if they know there is no serious illness attached to it.
No one is looking for an excuse to get rid of their sick kid. No one is trying to get other kids sick with their sick kid.
But, in reality, kids get sick. And sometimes, it's no one's fault.
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
Posted by Tah-wee-ZAH
Posted by Palebride
You have an unfortunate circumstance with your child who is prone to illness. But you seriously can't expect other people to alter *their* lifestyle so that *your* son doesn't get sick.
That's just not reasonable. It's not rational. You have to do what is best for you, as others have to do what is best for them.
It's not a matter of not caring or being irresponsible. It's a matter of living your life.
This is exactly the issue!
ITA. We all must do what works for us and our family. No one else can do it for us.
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
Posted by KateDevine
Posted by smdl
Posted by leighla
Posted by smdl
Again, it does not change the fact that because you cannot take off, you decide to send a kid that may be sick to daycare/school.
And let's be honest, there is a difference between teething and a runny nose, cough.
So I want to hear what your answer is.
What should I do if I can't get off and my kid has what I deem to be harmless sniffles?
(And I'm glad you can tell the difference - I sure as helll couldn't the first couple of years.)
I work PT. I work my butt off on weekends to make as much $$$ as possible. That's what I do. DH works during the week. I work on weekends. We never have a day off together.
You see, there are options.
Not everyone has that option
Kate, I went to school to do a career change because I knew how it would be in corporate and having kids. For 3 years, I worked FT and went to school PT. I worked my butt off to have this option. It is still not served to me on a silver platter. We don't have any family on LI. No babysitting, etc... It's just DH and I. I work my butt off on weekends to make $$$$ and make up for not having a FT job. I have to make it all up in 2 days. I did what I had to do.
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
Posted by smdl
Posted by KateDevine
Posted by smdl
Posted by leighla
Posted by smdl
Again, it does not change the fact that because you cannot take off, you decide to send a kid that may be sick to daycare/school.
And let's be honest, there is a difference between teething and a runny nose, cough.
So I want to hear what your answer is.
What should I do if I can't get off and my kid has what I deem to be harmless sniffles?
(And I'm glad you can tell the difference - I sure as helll couldn't the first couple of years.)
I work PT. I work my butt off on weekends to make as much $$$ as possible. That's what I do. DH works during the week. I work on weekends. We never have a day off together.
You see, there are options.
Not everyone has that option
Kate, I went to school to do a career change because I knew how it would be in corporate and having kids. For 3 years, I worked FT and went to school PT. I worked my butt off to have this option. It is still not served to me on a silver platter. We don't have any family on LI. No babysitting, etc... It's just DH and I. I work my butt off on weekends to make $$$$ and make up for not having a FT job. I have to make it all up in 2 days. I did what I had to do.
Sophie, I'm not talking about me...I'm talking about the fact that people have circumstances in their lives that make it not possible for them to do this situation...
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
Review any of my posts since December and count how many times Abby got sick either from me bringing stuff home from my students or in day care - it was A LOT.
She was that kid with pink eye - we picked her up and kept her home until she wasn't contagious. She was that kid on the nebulizer. She was the kid on steroids. She was that kid on every damn antibiotic under the sun. I know when she is sick and I know when clear snot renders her well enough to go to day care. She is a perpetually congested child just like I was. If my mother kept me home every time MY nose ran, I'd be just about finished with the 8th grade at the age of 39.
Until we all have MD's after our names, we need to use our best judgement and understand that school settings are breeding grounds for illnesses.
AND AGAIN I remind us all that there are 300-400 times the amount of germs on the top of your child's desk at school than there are on the toilet seat in the class bathroom.
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
I sent them in with the sniffles. WIth my kids its hard to tell if its seasonal allergies or a cold.
If they are coughing, have green mucous, or a fever they don't go. They both had a slight fever when they woke up, and I decided not to send them. They were both horribly sick by the early afternoon.
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
Posted by Palebride
Posted by smdl
Posted by leighla
Posted by smdl
Again, it does not change the fact that because you cannot take off, you decide to send a kid that may be sick to daycare/school.
And let's be honest, there is a difference between teething and a runny nose, cough.
So I want to hear what your answer is.
What should I do if I can't get off and my kid has what I deem to be harmless sniffles?
(And I'm glad you can tell the difference - I sure as helll couldn't the first couple of years.)
I work PT. I work my butt off on weekends to make as much $$$ as possible. That's what I do. DH works during the week. I work on weekends. We never have a day off together.
You see, there are options.
And what if there is only one parent? Then what is that parent supposed to do? Work days, nights and weekends to make enough money to save up in case they have to take a day off?
You have an unfortunate circumstance with your child who is prone to illness. But you seriously can't expect other people to alter *their* lifestyle so that *your* son doesn't get sick.
That's just not reasonable. It's not rational. You have to do what is best for you, as others have to do what is best for them.
It's not a matter of not caring or being irresponsible. It's a matter of living your life.
How is that different than stopping peanuts in airplane for people/children who are allergics?
Are you saying that now we should have peanuts and those with peanut allergies should not fly?
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
Posted by smdl
I worked in corporate for 15 years before changing career. Don't assume I don't know what goes on in an office.
My point is that you are self-employed now.
You have flexibility now.
When you were in the corporate world you did not have a child, you did not have to juggle this particular issue.
Lauren, and many others, do not have that flexibility.
We are not sending our children to school "sick".
We are not the rebellious, irresponsible mothers some people make us out to be.
We are following the guidelines of the center.
My kids never have the same symptoms at the exact same time. Was I to miss the first full week of school because my kids were teething?
Sorry but I have to save the days for when they are really sick.
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