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Re: Pulling kids out of school for vacation
Posted by doublestroller
not a fan at any age, but it's not to say i would never do it. i wouldn't do a week though, i think 2-3 days max...
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Posted 11/9/11 10:10 AM  |
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Re: Pulling kids out of school for vacation
Not everyone can take off when the schools are off, not to mention like someone else said, it is VERY expensive to fly anywhere over Christmas break, mid winter recess, or spring break.
I would have no problem with pulling my kids out for a few days. They can make up the work or get the work in advance to do on the plane or drive.
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| Posted 11/9/11 10:23 AM |
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Re: Pulling kids out of school for vacation
Posted by MrsGmomof3
I would not do it. You are teaching your child that their education is not important and can be blown off IMO.
This is a little harsh. Come on, taking your kids out for a few days is not sending the message that education is not important. I am sure whatever work is missed will be made up so nothing is being "blown off."
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| Posted 11/9/11 10:27 AM |
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computergirl
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Re: Pulling kids out of school for vacation
This is such a gray area to me. Depends on the kid and how they're doing academically, depends on the grade, depends on the teacher, etc. It also depends a LOT on the amount of days you're talking about.
I mean, taking two days to make a long weekend out of it doesn't seem like a huge deal to me-- have our kids never missed 2 days of school due to illness? My kindergartener already did and it's only November! Sure there were extra worksheets from classwork and homework to make up but we gradually did it and life went on. An entire week, however, is really a different story, especially as children get older and there are more tests, notes to take, projects, etc.
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| Posted 11/9/11 10:28 AM |
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MrsSchwags
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Re: Pulling kids out of school for vacation
From a parent prospective - most districts will not supply missing work for vacation. You have to do what you have to do.
From a teacher prospective - a week is a long time and it will be harder to "catch up," no matter how intelligent the child is.
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| Posted 11/9/11 11:15 AM |
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Re: Pulling kids out of school for vacation
Posted by dottiemchugh
Posted by MrsGmomof3
I would not do it. You are teaching your child that their education is not important and can be blown off IMO.
This is a little harsh. Come on, taking your kids out for a few days is not sending the message that education is not important. I am sure whatever work is missed will be made up so nothing is being "blown off."
No, it's not harsh, its the truth. Kids only go to school 183 days a year. They have off ALL summer, a week in December, a week in February, a week in April. With the standards being raised across the board, people attacking teachers unions left and right, teachers being "rated" based on their students testing scores, students should be IN school each and every single day except in the case of an illness.
Former teacher here and spouse of an administrator... your kids belong in school, not on vacation, unless they are sick. There are more than enough "days off" to take them to Disney.
You CANNOT equate being out 2 or 3 days for an illness to blowing off school for a trip.
Flame away... its my opinion.
Message edited 11/9/2011 12:32:29 PM.
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| Posted 11/9/11 12:31 PM |
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BargainMama
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Re: Pulling kids out of school for vacation
I have always been able to get the class work from the teacher prior to the trip. I have no problem putting in time while on vacation to do school work. In fact, we took a trip to Disney and participated in their YES educational program, where the children actually learn stuff, and the teachers were thrilled with that.
Weird that some teachers won't give the work. I can't imagine it's not made up a week ahead of time, don't teachers plan a curriculum in advance? Based on some of the responses on these types of threads (here and elsewhere), I'm starting to think it's just to be spiteful to be honest 
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| Posted 11/9/11 12:48 PM |
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Salason
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Re: Pulling kids out of school for vacation
I did it last year in preschool (3s) and am doing in again this year (4s). The director of his preschool even said take advantage of it while they're little.
I won't do it when he gets to 1st grade but maybe would consider it in kindgergarten (totally depending on how I feel when he gets there though because I dont really know what's involved yet.) I would not do it twice that close together though.
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| Posted 11/9/11 1:12 PM |
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PatsBrat
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Re: Pulling kids out of school for vacation
Posted by BargainMama
Weird that some teachers won't give the work. I can't imagine it's not made up a week ahead of time, don't teachers plan a curriculum in advance? Based on some of the responses on these types of threads (here and elsewhere), I'm starting to think it's just to be spiteful to be honest
Wow. First of all, giving the work in advance sends the message that missing school for a vaction is okay. It's NOT okay. It IS your choice, but we (educators) can't condone it.
In addition, every day in elementary school is an adventure, and what you cover or don't cover is dependent on a million factors, most of which are the moods, attitudes and whims of 20+ children. To assume that I know what I'm going to get to this NEXT week in order to prepare your child work to take on a trip is not only a HUGE inconvenience, it's also a huge crapshoot because although I can estimate what we will be doing, there's no way to know FOR SURE that I will cover everything I plan to on any given day.
I am very glad for and fully support my district's and my home district's refusal to supply work in advance.
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| Posted 11/9/11 1:52 PM |
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BargainMama
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Re: Pulling kids out of school for vacation
Posted by PatsBrat
Posted by BargainMama
Weird that some teachers won't give the work. I can't imagine it's not made up a week ahead of time, don't teachers plan a curriculum in advance? Based on some of the responses on these types of threads (here and elsewhere), I'm starting to think it's just to be spiteful to be honest
Wow. First of all, giving the work in advance sends the message that missing school for a vaction is okay. It's NOT okay. It IS your choice, but we (educators) can't condone it.
In addition, every day in elementary school is an adventure, and what you cover or don't cover is dependent on a million factors, most of which are the moods, attitudes and whims of 20+ children. To assume that I know what I'm going to get to this NEXT week in order to prepare your child work to take on a trip is not only a HUGE inconvenience, it's also a huge crapshoot because although I can estimate what we will be doing, there's no way to know FOR SURE that I will cover everything I plan to on any given day.
I am very glad for and fully support my district's and my home district's refusal to supply work in advance.
Obviously our teachers work differently than yours then. I'm very glad for that, and will continue to "blow off" a few days of school for fun vacations with family 
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| Posted 11/9/11 2:03 PM |
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nrthshgrl
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Re: Pulling kids out of school for vacation
It's not ok for me to pull my kid out for a week at any age. I could see a day or two but even then it would have to some kind of amazing trip that I couldn't get again (ie my company's president's club trip to Hawaii).
They have plenty of school breaks & plenty of summer vacations that I would schedule vacation around.
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| Posted 11/9/11 2:22 PM |
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BellaRock
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Re: Pulling kids out of school for vacation
Posted by nrthshgrl
It's not ok for me to pull my kid out for a week at any age. I could see a day or two but even then it would have to some kind of amazing trip that I couldn't get again (ie my company's president's club trip to Hawaii).
They have plenty of school breaks & plenty of summer vacations that I would schedule vacation around.
Totally agree.
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| Posted 11/9/11 2:38 PM |
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BellaRock
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Re: Pulling kids out of school for vacation
Posted by MrsGmomof3
Posted by dottiemchugh
Posted by MrsGmomof3
I would not do it. You are teaching your child that their education is not important and can be blown off IMO.
This is a little harsh. Come on, taking your kids out for a few days is not sending the message that education is not important. I am sure whatever work is missed will be made up so nothing is being "blown off."
No, it's not harsh, its the truth. Kids only go to school 183 days a year. They have off ALL summer, a week in December, a week in February, a week in April. With the standards being raised across the board, people attacking teachers unions left and right, teachers being "rated" based on their students testing scores, students should be IN school each and every single day except in the case of an illness.
Former teacher here and spouse of an administrator... your kids belong in school, not on vacation, unless they are sick. There are more than enough "days off" to take them to Disney.
You CANNOT equate being out 2 or 3 days for an illness to blowing off school for a trip.
Flame away... its my opinion.
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| Posted 11/9/11 2:39 PM |
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Re: Pulling kids out of school for vacation
Posted by MrsGmomof3
Posted by dottiemchugh
Posted by MrsGmomof3
I would not do it. You are teaching your child that their education is not important and can be blown off IMO.
This is a little harsh. Come on, taking your kids out for a few days is not sending the message that education is not important. I am sure whatever work is missed will be made up so nothing is being "blown off."
No, it's not harsh, its the truth. Kids only go to school 183 days a year. They have off ALL summer, a week in December, a week in February, a week in April. With the standards being raised across the board, people attacking teachers unions left and right, teachers being "rated" based on their students testing scores, students should be IN school each and every single day except in the case of an illness.
Former teacher here and spouse of an administrator... your kids belong in school, not on vacation, unless they are sick. There are more than enough "days off" to take them to Disney.
You CANNOT equate being out 2 or 3 days for an illness to blowing off school for a trip.
Flame away... its my opinion.
Yes it is your opinion, obviously. The OP doesn't need someone telling her what message she is sending to her children. Again, some people need to take kids out of school for various things that do not occur on a weekend or during a school break, whether it be a family event or a vacation. Sorry, not ALL people can go in the summer or on breaks.
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| Posted 11/9/11 5:05 PM |
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Re: Pulling kids out of school for vacation
I agree that school is important and needs to be valued, but so does family time. I mean, that's what most people complain of today - lack of family time, everyone slaving away, etc. By putting family time on the back burner, that also sends another message, too.
I mean I think it's a bit silly to not allow kids to have work due to it being an unexcused absence, and then to further it by possibly not allowing them to graduate down the line. That's a bit extreme.
But, it is what it is.
We are a military family and time is precious and vacations will not always fall neatly during school vacation, especially due to deployments.
If some teacher said to me that I'm showing my children that their education is not important and can be blown off, then I see their side and respect their opinion. I just hope they will see mine, as well.
Not everything is black & white in this world, KWIM?
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| Posted 11/9/11 6:37 PM |
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ChilisWife
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Re: Pulling kids out of school for vacation
I strongly disagree that taking your kid out of school for a couple of days sends a message that school is not important.
You know what sends a message that school isn't important? The fact that they have so much time off! I get holidays, but it seems like between pseudo holidays, and conferences, and "breaks" (winter break, spring break, summer break), they average going to school about 15 days per month!
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| Posted 11/9/11 7:16 PM |
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PatsBrat
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Re: Pulling kids out of school for vacation
Posted by BargainMama
Obviously our teachers work differently than yours then. I'm very glad for that, and will continue to "blow off" a few days of school for fun vacations with family
I don't see how that can be, considering we all fall under NYS standards (unless you are out of state) and are teaching the same population, but clearly you know what's best for your children.
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| Posted 11/9/11 8:00 PM |
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Re: Pulling kids out of school for vacation
Posted by ChilisWife
I strongly disagree that taking your kid out of school for a couple of days sends a message that school is not important.
You know what sends a message that school isn't important? The fact that they have so much time off! I get holidays, but it seems like between pseudo holidays, and conferences, and "breaks" (winter break, spring break, summer break), they average going to school about 15 days per month!
Amen! I am actually shocked! I am on maternity leave which is working out fine now. When I go back in Dec they have 2 half days on Dec 15th and 16th, then Christmas week, then New yrs. I cant believe that the second I go back to work, I have to take off yet again. The kids have ALOT of time off from what I expected.
Nicole- Do what you want. Its not really up to anyone else what YOU and DH should do. To me its just asking other people what their life expectations are vs yours. "I" dont think its a big deal so "I" would do it. You really cant win using others opinions to make your life decisions in this case.
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| Posted 11/9/11 8:52 PM |
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nrthshgrl
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Re: Pulling kids out of school for vacation
The OP only asked at what age do you think it's unreasonable to take your kids out of school for a week of vacation.
I've seen the kid that could miss school for vacations. He was also allowed to go to concerts on a school night & then couldn't get up the next day. Now he's missing work because he was out in the city. He's skipping college classes because he was out at some midnight video game release. I've seen the kid that is allowed to call out sick because she didn't study for a test. I've seen the kid that if she's upset at school, she can get picked up. I'm not a teacher. They're related to me.
Do I think the OP's children will suffer in dramatically for missing a week of kindergarten - nope.
But I do think that allowing my kids to skip their obligations & responsibilities does send the wrong message.
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| Posted 11/9/11 11:11 PM |
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Re: Pulling kids out of school for vacation
Posted by nrthshgrl
The OP only asked at what age do you think it's unreasonable to take your kids out of school for a week of vacation.
I've seen the kid that could miss school for vacations. He was also allowed to go to concerts on a school night & then couldn't get up the next day. Now he's missing work because he was out in the city. He's skipping college classes because he was out at some midnight video game release. I've seen the kid that is allowed to call out sick because she didn't study for a test. I've seen the kid that if she's upset at school, she can get picked up. I'm not a teacher. They're related to me.
Do I think the OP's children will suffer in dramatically for missing a week of kindergarten - nope.
But I do think that allowing my kids to skip their obligations & responsibilities does send the wrong message.
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| Posted 11/10/11 11:03 AM |
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Re: Pulling kids out of school for vacation
Posted by ChilisWife
I strongly disagree that taking your kid out of school for a couple of days sends a message that school is not important.
You know what sends a message that school isn't important? The fact that they have so much time off! I get holidays, but it seems like between pseudo holidays, and conferences, and "breaks" (winter break, spring break, summer break), they average going to school about 15 days per month!
I agree with this. I wonder what do working parents do with their kids during all these days off from school? I only had 3 weeks off at my old job!
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Re: Pulling kids out of school for vacation
Posted by maybesoon
Posted by ChilisWife
I strongly disagree that taking your kid out of school for a couple of days sends a message that school is not important.
You know what sends a message that school isn't important? The fact that they have so much time off! I get holidays, but it seems like between pseudo holidays, and conferences, and "breaks" (winter break, spring break, summer break), they average going to school about 15 days per month!
I agree with this. I wonder what do working parents do with their kids during all these days off from school? I only had 3 weeks off at my old job!
ITA with this. I'm a SAHM and people are always assuming I'm returning to work "once both kids are in school". To be perfectly honest, it seems like that would be the worst possible time to return to work-- starting a new job while constantly requesting time off because the school is closed or closing early. Never mind that the kids are bound to be out sick a few days, plus the events and trips that you may want to attend and take time off for. Seems like the years BEFORE school starts are better for working because you have the consistency of either a daycare or nanny situation.
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| Posted 11/10/11 11:28 AM |
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nrthshgrl
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Re: Pulling kids out of school for vacation
Posted by computergirl
Posted by maybesoon
Posted by ChilisWife
I strongly disagree that taking your kid out of school for a couple of days sends a message that school is not important.
You know what sends a message that school isn't important? The fact that they have so much time off! I get holidays, but it seems like between pseudo holidays, and conferences, and "breaks" (winter break, spring break, summer break), they average going to school about 15 days per month!
I agree with this. I wonder what do working parents do with their kids during all these days off from school? I only had 3 weeks off at my old job!
ITA with this. I'm a SAHM and people are always assuming I'm returning to work "once both kids are in school". To be perfectly honest, it seems like that would be the worst possible time to return to work-- starting a new job while constantly requesting time off because the school is closed or closing early. Never mind that the kids are bound to be out sick a few days, plus the events and trips that you may want to attend and take time off for. Seems like the years BEFORE school starts are better for working because you have the consistency of either a daycare or nanny situation.
I'm confused by this. Can one of you clarify?
You are saying that what sends the message that school isn't important is that there are so many scheduleds days off from school but you don't think taking them out of school for vacation on the few days they are in school doesn't send that message?
I'm a working mom & believe me when I count up the half days, the superintendent conference days, the week long vacations, I'm in awe of how many days off them have. I just called my kids slackers this morning because they only have 3 days of school this week. But taking them out for more days is ok?
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| Posted 11/10/11 11:55 AM |
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Re: Pulling kids out of school for vacation
Wow, didn't realize this would spark a controversy. I see what people are saying about sending the wrong message, I just don't agree. We ARE going away in April. It's booked. This will be my boys first trip with their grandparents, and I find that a valuable way to spend their time. I know that they get homework sent home on Mobday to be done for Friday. Their lessons are planned in advance, so I can't see why I couldn't get the assignment the previous Friday and we will fo it on our trip. As far as June goes, that isn't planned yet. But, we go away the same week every year. If we postpone until the end of the year, our timeshare will be more points to use, the airfare will be more, and it will be more crowded. I like to have family time because it seems so hard to come by most times with work and obligations. So I guess we will just do what we do. I respect those opinions that don't gel with mine, and that's the end if that.
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| Posted 11/10/11 12:00 PM |
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Re: Pulling kids out of school for vacation
I am against the majority. I believe that as long as you feel your child can handle it at least through 2nd grade it's ok. After 3rd grade they may find it hard to catch up. I feel special trips to see family, disney, etc. are things that can't be taught and are invaluable experiences that your children will never forget. I understand kids get a lot of time off and I agree they do but MANY people don't have the extra money to spend on the outrageous prices that are charged when all kids have off of school. We plan to go to Disney next year and DS will be in 2nd grade.
HAVE FUN!!!!!
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