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Re: Mandatory Covid Vaccines for Colleges
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I’m all for it. Vaccines work. I just had a direct exposure with a friend. I’m fine thankfully had multiple negative tests just to be sure.
I plan to get my kids vaccinated the moment it becomes available for them. It’s been 13 months. I’m over this and it needs to end. Vaccines work and vaccines are the answer I’m tired of people thinking their interpretations of things are fact, that their opinions are fact and that their Facebook news is fact. Science is science. People need to believe in science, get vaccinated and we all need to get on with our lives. That’s how it will end. Kids congregating in colleges, living together will cause a spread. Kids deserve a normal college experience, living in dorms, going to parties and bars, not sitting in a room on a remote learning platform.
All I know is my own experience. I got covid and it was completely mild. I got the vaccine and I was sicker than I can ever remember being. I will never take it again, and I will probably not allow my children to get it. Sorry that you are "over this" and you think vaccines are the answer. I think living life with certain risks is the answer.
You should absolutely get the vaccine for you and your children then but don't force your beliefs on anyone else.
I’ve been hearing that from a lot of people. That the reaction to the vaccine may be a lot worse if you had Covid. I wonder why that is?
I've heard that too. This is just my speculation, but maybe the immune goes into overdrive when it sees the spike protein because it already remembers the virus and attacks. There is no scientific evidence of this, just my thoughts. 
Yes - it does make sense logically although I am not sure if it is scientifically proven. i did ask when I was getting the vaccine and they told me that it wouldn't matter.
Everyone should note thou that they are finding that 70% of people are having side effects from J&J - 50% of whom experience AT LEAST mild flu like symptoms with fever, chills, headache, fatigue. So half of the people that take J&J are getting sick.
Every vaccine and every medication that we have available to us comes with the risk of side effects. Generally speaking, most are mild and go away quickly. Rarely are they life threatening.
Everything in life is a game of risk. Do you want to risk getting COVID and possibly be one of the unfortunate people who get extremely ill (possibly even die) OR do you want to risk taking a vaccine with minimal known side effects and an over 90% efficacy rate in transmission and lessening the severity of symptoms? Having recently had moderate COVID and knowing the stress of what every new day could (or did) bring, I want the vaccine so if I ever have to go through this again the odds are even more in my favor. I've had countless vaccines over my 46 years on the planet, I've never had adverse reactions or issues. Given my health history with prior vaccines, I will take my chances with the COVID vaccine.
I feel like the vaccine/COVID argument goes in circles on these boards. At this point I don't really see what there is to say anymore and yet almost every day there ANOTHER vaccine post where for the most part, the SAME argument happens. Nobody is ever saying anything new. Get your vaccine or don't, I don't think anyone at this point really cares what someone else is doing and talking someone to death about why you think YOUR way is the RIGHT way won't change a person's mind.
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Re: Mandatory Covid Vaccines for Colleges
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by lululu
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by Sash
Posted by lululu
Posted by TwinMommyToBoys
I’m all for it. Vaccines work. I just had a direct exposure with a friend. I’m fine thankfully had multiple negative tests just to be sure.
I plan to get my kids vaccinated the moment it becomes available for them. It’s been 13 months. I’m over this and it needs to end. Vaccines work and vaccines are the answer I’m tired of people thinking their interpretations of things are fact, that their opinions are fact and that their Facebook news is fact. Science is science. People need to believe in science, get vaccinated and we all need to get on with our lives. That’s how it will end. Kids congregating in colleges, living together will cause a spread. Kids deserve a normal college experience, living in dorms, going to parties and bars, not sitting in a room on a remote learning platform.
All I know is my own experience. I got covid and it was completely mild. I got the vaccine and I was sicker than I can ever remember being. I will never take it again, and I will probably not allow my children to get it. Sorry that you are "over this" and you think vaccines are the answer. I think living life with certain risks is the answer.
You should absolutely get the vaccine for you and your children then but don't force your beliefs on anyone else.
I’ve been hearing that from a lot of people. That the reaction to the vaccine may be a lot worse if you had Covid. I wonder why that is?
I've heard that too. This is just my speculation, but maybe the immune goes into overdrive when it sees the spike protein because it already remembers the virus and attacks. There is no scientific evidence of this, just my thoughts.
Yes - it does make sense logically although I am not sure if it is scientifically proven. i did ask when I was getting the vaccine and they told me that it wouldn't matter.
Everyone should note thou that they are finding that 70% of people are having side effects from J&J - 50% of whom experience AT LEAST mild flu like symptoms with fever, chills, headache, fatigue. So half of the people that take J&J are getting sick.
Every vaccine and every medication that we have available to us comes with the risk of side effects. Generally speaking, most are mild and go away quickly. Rarely are they life threatening.
Everything in life is a game of risk. Do you want to risk getting COVID and possibly be one of the unfortunate people who get extremely ill (possibly even die) OR do you want to risk taking a vaccine with minimal known side effects and an over 90% efficacy rate in transmission and lessening the severity of symptoms? Having recently had moderate COVID and knowing the stress of what every new day could (or did) bring, I want the vaccine so if I ever have to go through this again the odds are even more in my favor. I've had countless vaccines over my 46 years on the planet, I've never had adverse reactions or issues. Given my health history with prior vaccines, I will take my chances with the COVID vaccine.
I feel like the vaccine/COVID argument goes in circles on these boards. At this point I don't really see what there is to say anymore and yet almost every day there ANOTHER vaccine post where for the most part, the SAME argument happens. Nobody is ever saying anything new. Get your vaccine or don't, I don't think anyone at this point really cares what someone else is doing and talking someone to death about why you think YOUR way is the RIGHT way won't change a person's mind.
If you don't want to read the posts, just skip it! I don't think I have ever once said my way is the right way, however you come off as someone that thinks what they are always right and you don't seem very open to a discussion in which others opinions might be valuable. You are condescending even on your best days.
I am sharing my experience from the past couple days. This is very new to me. I clearly couldn't have shared this information before. New information is coming out every day. You act like these vaccines have been around for years and we have tons of data on Covid and the vaccines.
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Hofstra26
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Re: Mandatory Covid Vaccines for Colleges
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by lululu
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by Sash
Posted by lululu
Posted by TwinMommyToBoys
I’m all for it. Vaccines work. I just had a direct exposure with a friend. I’m fine thankfully had multiple negative tests just to be sure.
I plan to get my kids vaccinated the moment it becomes available for them. It’s been 13 months. I’m over this and it needs to end. Vaccines work and vaccines are the answer I’m tired of people thinking their interpretations of things are fact, that their opinions are fact and that their Facebook news is fact. Science is science. People need to believe in science, get vaccinated and we all need to get on with our lives. That’s how it will end. Kids congregating in colleges, living together will cause a spread. Kids deserve a normal college experience, living in dorms, going to parties and bars, not sitting in a room on a remote learning platform.
All I know is my own experience. I got covid and it was completely mild. I got the vaccine and I was sicker than I can ever remember being. I will never take it again, and I will probably not allow my children to get it. Sorry that you are "over this" and you think vaccines are the answer. I think living life with certain risks is the answer.
You should absolutely get the vaccine for you and your children then but don't force your beliefs on anyone else.
I’ve been hearing that from a lot of people. That the reaction to the vaccine may be a lot worse if you had Covid. I wonder why that is?
I've heard that too. This is just my speculation, but maybe the immune goes into overdrive when it sees the spike protein because it already remembers the virus and attacks. There is no scientific evidence of this, just my thoughts.
Yes - it does make sense logically although I am not sure if it is scientifically proven. i did ask when I was getting the vaccine and they told me that it wouldn't matter.
Everyone should note thou that they are finding that 70% of people are having side effects from J&J - 50% of whom experience AT LEAST mild flu like symptoms with fever, chills, headache, fatigue. So half of the people that take J&J are getting sick.
Every vaccine and every medication that we have available to us comes with the risk of side effects. Generally speaking, most are mild and go away quickly. Rarely are they life threatening.
Everything in life is a game of risk. Do you want to risk getting COVID and possibly be one of the unfortunate people who get extremely ill (possibly even die) OR do you want to risk taking a vaccine with minimal known side effects and an over 90% efficacy rate in transmission and lessening the severity of symptoms? Having recently had moderate COVID and knowing the stress of what every new day could (or did) bring, I want the vaccine so if I ever have to go through this again the odds are even more in my favor. I've had countless vaccines over my 46 years on the planet, I've never had adverse reactions or issues. Given my health history with prior vaccines, I will take my chances with the COVID vaccine.
I feel like the vaccine/COVID argument goes in circles on these boards. At this point I don't really see what there is to say anymore and yet almost every day there ANOTHER vaccine post where for the most part, the SAME argument happens. Nobody is ever saying anything new. Get your vaccine or don't, I don't think anyone at this point really cares what someone else is doing and talking someone to death about why you think YOUR way is the RIGHT way won't change a person's mind.
If you don't want to read the posts, just skip it! I don't think I have ever once said my way is the right way, however you come off as someone that thinks what they are always right and you don't seem very open to a discussion in which others opinions might be valuable. You are condescending even on your best days.
I am sharing my experience from the past couple days. This is very new to me. I clearly couldn't have shared this information before. New information is coming out every day. You act like these vaccines have been around for years and we have tons of data on Covid and the vaccines.
Why are you so defensive and obnoxious? I quoted you because of the comment about side effects and then went on to say something else which wasn't specifically directed towards you.
I don't particularly care if you want to talk about this until you're blue in the face but the fact is, the discussion is getting old on these boards and nothing new is ever discussed. We're all saying the same things over and over again and realistically, I think we ALL know where each of us stands at this point with regards to the vaccine.
If my comments bother you, then take you own advice and skip them.
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lululu
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Re: Mandatory Covid Vaccines for Colleges
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by lululu
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by Sash
Posted by lululu
Posted by TwinMommyToBoys
I’m all for it. Vaccines work. I just had a direct exposure with a friend. I’m fine thankfully had multiple negative tests just to be sure.
I plan to get my kids vaccinated the moment it becomes available for them. It’s been 13 months. I’m over this and it needs to end. Vaccines work and vaccines are the answer I’m tired of people thinking their interpretations of things are fact, that their opinions are fact and that their Facebook news is fact. Science is science. People need to believe in science, get vaccinated and we all need to get on with our lives. That’s how it will end. Kids congregating in colleges, living together will cause a spread. Kids deserve a normal college experience, living in dorms, going to parties and bars, not sitting in a room on a remote learning platform.
All I know is my own experience. I got covid and it was completely mild. I got the vaccine and I was sicker than I can ever remember being. I will never take it again, and I will probably not allow my children to get it. Sorry that you are "over this" and you think vaccines are the answer. I think living life with certain risks is the answer.
You should absolutely get the vaccine for you and your children then but don't force your beliefs on anyone else.
I’ve been hearing that from a lot of people. That the reaction to the vaccine may be a lot worse if you had Covid. I wonder why that is?
I've heard that too. This is just my speculation, but maybe the immune goes into overdrive when it sees the spike protein because it already remembers the virus and attacks. There is no scientific evidence of this, just my thoughts.
Yes - it does make sense logically although I am not sure if it is scientifically proven. i did ask when I was getting the vaccine and they told me that it wouldn't matter.
Everyone should note thou that they are finding that 70% of people are having side effects from J&J - 50% of whom experience AT LEAST mild flu like symptoms with fever, chills, headache, fatigue. So half of the people that take J&J are getting sick.
Every vaccine and every medication that we have available to us comes with the risk of side effects. Generally speaking, most are mild and go away quickly. Rarely are they life threatening.
Everything in life is a game of risk. Do you want to risk getting COVID and possibly be one of the unfortunate people who get extremely ill (possibly even die) OR do you want to risk taking a vaccine with minimal known side effects and an over 90% efficacy rate in transmission and lessening the severity of symptoms? Having recently had moderate COVID and knowing the stress of what every new day could (or did) bring, I want the vaccine so if I ever have to go through this again the odds are even more in my favor. I've had countless vaccines over my 46 years on the planet, I've never had adverse reactions or issues. Given my health history with prior vaccines, I will take my chances with the COVID vaccine.
I feel like the vaccine/COVID argument goes in circles on these boards. At this point I don't really see what there is to say anymore and yet almost every day there ANOTHER vaccine post where for the most part, the SAME argument happens. Nobody is ever saying anything new. Get your vaccine or don't, I don't think anyone at this point really cares what someone else is doing and talking someone to death about why you think YOUR way is the RIGHT way won't change a person's mind.
If you don't want to read the posts, just skip it! I don't think I have ever once said my way is the right way, however you come off as someone that thinks what they are always right and you don't seem very open to a discussion in which others opinions might be valuable. You are condescending even on your best days.
I am sharing my experience from the past couple days. This is very new to me. I clearly couldn't have shared this information before. New information is coming out every day. You act like these vaccines have been around for years and we have tons of data on Covid and the vaccines.
Why are you so defensive and obnoxious? I quoted you because of the comment about side effects and then went on to say something else which wasn't specifically directed towards you.
I don't particularly care if you want to talk about this until you're blue in the face but the fact is, the discussion is getting old on these boards and nothing new is ever discussed. We're all saying the same things over and over again and realistically, I think we ALL know where each of us stands at this point with regards to the vaccine.
If my comments bother you, then take you own advice and skip them.
You are correct and I will skip your posts in the future. Thanks for the great advice!
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Hofstra26
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Re: Mandatory Covid Vaccines for Colleges
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by lululu
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by Sash
Posted by lululu
Posted by TwinMommyToBoys
I’m all for it. Vaccines work. I just had a direct exposure with a friend. I’m fine thankfully had multiple negative tests just to be sure.
I plan to get my kids vaccinated the moment it becomes available for them. It’s been 13 months. I’m over this and it needs to end. Vaccines work and vaccines are the answer I’m tired of people thinking their interpretations of things are fact, that their opinions are fact and that their Facebook news is fact. Science is science. People need to believe in science, get vaccinated and we all need to get on with our lives. That’s how it will end. Kids congregating in colleges, living together will cause a spread. Kids deserve a normal college experience, living in dorms, going to parties and bars, not sitting in a room on a remote learning platform.
All I know is my own experience. I got covid and it was completely mild. I got the vaccine and I was sicker than I can ever remember being. I will never take it again, and I will probably not allow my children to get it. Sorry that you are "over this" and you think vaccines are the answer. I think living life with certain risks is the answer.
You should absolutely get the vaccine for you and your children then but don't force your beliefs on anyone else.
I’ve been hearing that from a lot of people. That the reaction to the vaccine may be a lot worse if you had Covid. I wonder why that is?
I've heard that too. This is just my speculation, but maybe the immune goes into overdrive when it sees the spike protein because it already remembers the virus and attacks. There is no scientific evidence of this, just my thoughts.
Yes - it does make sense logically although I am not sure if it is scientifically proven. i did ask when I was getting the vaccine and they told me that it wouldn't matter.
Everyone should note thou that they are finding that 70% of people are having side effects from J&J - 50% of whom experience AT LEAST mild flu like symptoms with fever, chills, headache, fatigue. So half of the people that take J&J are getting sick.
Every vaccine and every medication that we have available to us comes with the risk of side effects. Generally speaking, most are mild and go away quickly. Rarely are they life threatening.
Everything in life is a game of risk. Do you want to risk getting COVID and possibly be one of the unfortunate people who get extremely ill (possibly even die) OR do you want to risk taking a vaccine with minimal known side effects and an over 90% efficacy rate in transmission and lessening the severity of symptoms? Having recently had moderate COVID and knowing the stress of what every new day could (or did) bring, I want the vaccine so if I ever have to go through this again the odds are even more in my favor. I've had countless vaccines over my 46 years on the planet, I've never had adverse reactions or issues. Given my health history with prior vaccines, I will take my chances with the COVID vaccine.
I feel like the vaccine/COVID argument goes in circles on these boards. At this point I don't really see what there is to say anymore and yet almost every day there ANOTHER vaccine post where for the most part, the SAME argument happens. Nobody is ever saying anything new. Get your vaccine or don't, I don't think anyone at this point really cares what someone else is doing and talking someone to death about why you think YOUR way is the RIGHT way won't change a person's mind.
If you don't want to read the posts, just skip it! I don't think I have ever once said my way is the right way, however you come off as someone that thinks what they are always right and you don't seem very open to a discussion in which others opinions might be valuable. You are condescending even on your best days.
I am sharing my experience from the past couple days. This is very new to me. I clearly couldn't have shared this information before. New information is coming out every day. You act like these vaccines have been around for years and we have tons of data on Covid and the vaccines.
Why are you so defensive and obnoxious? I quoted you because of the comment about side effects and then went on to say something else which wasn't specifically directed towards you.
I don't particularly care if you want to talk about this until you're blue in the face but the fact is, the discussion is getting old on these boards and nothing new is ever discussed. We're all saying the same things over and over again and realistically, I think we ALL know where each of us stands at this point with regards to the vaccine.
If my comments bother you, then take you own advice and skip them.
You are correct and I will skip your posts in the future. Thanks for the great advice!
Good. 
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Re: Mandatory Covid Vaccines for Colleges
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by lululu
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by Sash
Posted by lululu
Posted by TwinMommyToBoys
I’m all for it. Vaccines work. I just had a direct exposure with a friend. I’m fine thankfully had multiple negative tests just to be sure.
I plan to get my kids vaccinated the moment it becomes available for them. It’s been 13 months. I’m over this and it needs to end. Vaccines work and vaccines are the answer I’m tired of people thinking their interpretations of things are fact, that their opinions are fact and that their Facebook news is fact. Science is science. People need to believe in science, get vaccinated and we all need to get on with our lives. That’s how it will end. Kids congregating in colleges, living together will cause a spread. Kids deserve a normal college experience, living in dorms, going to parties and bars, not sitting in a room on a remote learning platform.
All I know is my own experience. I got covid and it was completely mild. I got the vaccine and I was sicker than I can ever remember being. I will never take it again, and I will probably not allow my children to get it. Sorry that you are "over this" and you think vaccines are the answer. I think living life with certain risks is the answer.
You should absolutely get the vaccine for you and your children then but don't force your beliefs on anyone else.
I’ve been hearing that from a lot of people. That the reaction to the vaccine may be a lot worse if you had Covid. I wonder why that is?
I've heard that too. This is just my speculation, but maybe the immune goes into overdrive when it sees the spike protein because it already remembers the virus and attacks. There is no scientific evidence of this, just my thoughts.
Yes - it does make sense logically although I am not sure if it is scientifically proven. i did ask when I was getting the vaccine and they told me that it wouldn't matter.
Everyone should note thou that they are finding that 70% of people are having side effects from J&J - 50% of whom experience AT LEAST mild flu like symptoms with fever, chills, headache, fatigue. So half of the people that take J&J are getting sick.
Every vaccine and every medication that we have available to us comes with the risk of side effects. Generally speaking, most are mild and go away quickly. Rarely are they life threatening.
Everything in life is a game of risk. Do you want to risk getting COVID and possibly be one of the unfortunate people who get extremely ill (possibly even die) OR do you want to risk taking a vaccine with minimal known side effects and an over 90% efficacy rate in transmission and lessening the severity of symptoms? Having recently had moderate COVID and knowing the stress of what every new day could (or did) bring, I want the vaccine so if I ever have to go through this again the odds are even more in my favor. I've had countless vaccines over my 46 years on the planet, I've never had adverse reactions or issues. Given my health history with prior vaccines, I will take my chances with the COVID vaccine.
I feel like the vaccine/COVID argument goes in circles on these boards. At this point I don't really see what there is to say anymore and yet almost every day there ANOTHER vaccine post where for the most part, the SAME argument happens. Nobody is ever saying anything new. Get your vaccine or don't, I don't think anyone at this point really cares what someone else is doing and talking someone to death about why you think YOUR way is the RIGHT way won't change a person's mind.
If you don't want to read the posts, just skip it! I don't think I have ever once said my way is the right way, however you come off as someone that thinks what they are always right and you don't seem very open to a discussion in which others opinions might be valuable. You are condescending even on your best days.
I am sharing my experience from the past couple days. This is very new to me. I clearly couldn't have shared this information before. New information is coming out every day. You act like these vaccines have been around for years and we have tons of data on Covid and the vaccines.
Why are you so defensive and obnoxious? I quoted you because of the comment about side effects and then went on to say something else which wasn't specifically directed towards you.
I don't particularly care if you want to talk about this until you're blue in the face but the fact is, the discussion is getting old on these boards and nothing new is ever discussed. We're all saying the same things over and over again and realistically, I think we ALL know where each of us stands at this point with regards to the vaccine.
If my comments bother you, then take you own advice and skip them.
You are correct and I will skip your posts in the future. Thanks for the great advice!
Good.
Yes I agree! It's great!
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Re: Mandatory Covid Vaccines for Colleges
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I had covid in January. It was very mild. I got the J&J vaccine yesterday. I had a horrible reaction to it. It was basically my covid symptoms times 100. I‘m just starting to feel better. There is no way I would subject my children to this. Ever. Immediately when the shot went in it felt different than any other shot I’ve ever had. Now I am a little freaked out because I feel like I made the wrong choice. There is not enough data on these vaccines. I regret taking it after having such a mild reaction to covid itself. I hope and pray that they don’t mandate this for children any time soon. In all of our lives I can’t recall any vaccine that makes people this sick. I know I’m not going to die from the shot but something definitely seems off. Everyone should have a choice when it comes to this and no one should be forced to take it.
On the flip side, I had J & J last week and had no reaction. Maybe in a year I'll drop dead from it, I really hope not, but after burying two cousins due to Covid it was a chance I was willing to take.
Sorry for your loss and glad you didn’t have the reaction that I did. That’s a chance you are willing to take but that chance should be a choice. Not a requirement.
Thank you. You are one of the only people who has ever offered their condolences on this board when I have mentioned that...everyone else glosses over it like two healthy middle aged women dying is normal. Of course it should be a choice, at least for now. But unless I have missed it this weekend as I haven't seen much news, I don't know of anybody being forced to get the vaccine.
All of these kids enrolled at colleges that are now requiring vaccination to return in the fall. 10 colleges announces this weekend. It’s no longer a choice for a lot of people.
Yes, I know about the colleges, but I don't consider that forced. You are an adult in college so if you want to make the decision to get the vaccine, you do it. If not, then you can go to a different college...or you can go totally online. Online college degrees are quite common and people have been doing it for over 20 years. They are real programs, not zoom schools that most of the school districts have been doing. As of now, I know of nobody who has been held down bodily to get the vaccine and I hope that never changes.
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Re: Mandatory Covid Vaccines for Colleges
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I had covid in January. It was very mild. I got the J&J vaccine yesterday. I had a horrible reaction to it. It was basically my covid symptoms times 100. I‘m just starting to feel better. There is no way I would subject my children to this. Ever. Immediately when the shot went in it felt different than any other shot I’ve ever had. Now I am a little freaked out because I feel like I made the wrong choice. There is not enough data on these vaccines. I regret taking it after having such a mild reaction to covid itself. I hope and pray that they don’t mandate this for children any time soon. In all of our lives I can’t recall any vaccine that makes people this sick. I know I’m not going to die from the shot but something definitely seems off. Everyone should have a choice when it comes to this and no one should be forced to take it.
On the flip side, I had J & J last week and had no reaction. Maybe in a year I'll drop dead from it, I really hope not, but after burying two cousins due to Covid it was a chance I was willing to take.
Sorry for your loss and glad you didn’t have the reaction that I did. That’s a chance you are willing to take but that chance should be a choice. Not a requirement.
Thank you. You are one of the only people who has ever offered their condolences on this board when I have mentioned that...everyone else glosses over it like two healthy middle aged women dying is normal. Of course it should be a choice, at least for now. But unless I have missed it this weekend as I haven't seen much news, I don't know of anybody being forced to get the vaccine.
All of these kids enrolled at colleges that are now requiring vaccination to return in the fall. 10 colleges announces this weekend. It’s no longer a choice for a lot of people.
Yes, I know about the colleges, but I don't consider that forced. You are an adult in college so if you want to make the decision to get the vaccine, you do it. If not, then you can go to a different college...or you can go totally online. Online college degrees are quite common and people have been doing it for over 20 years. They are real programs, not zoom schools that most of the school districts have been doing. As of now, I know of nobody who has been held down bodily to get the vaccine and I hope that never changes.
Well by that logic there will always be an option, as extreme as it might sound even for death. The key question would be...when does an option stop being an option and becomes a necessary? It really depends on the person, and everything their life involves. So when someone says “well there’s always an option”, is there really? Cause u’re not living that person’s life therefore u won’t know that person’s true needs so that statement lacks accuracy and it’s simply irrelevant.
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Re: Mandatory Covid Vaccines for Colleges
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I had covid in January. It was very mild. I got the J&J vaccine yesterday. I had a horrible reaction to it. It was basically my covid symptoms times 100. I‘m just starting to feel better. There is no way I would subject my children to this. Ever. Immediately when the shot went in it felt different than any other shot I’ve ever had. Now I am a little freaked out because I feel like I made the wrong choice. There is not enough data on these vaccines. I regret taking it after having such a mild reaction to covid itself. I hope and pray that they don’t mandate this for children any time soon. In all of our lives I can’t recall any vaccine that makes people this sick. I know I’m not going to die from the shot but something definitely seems off. Everyone should have a choice when it comes to this and no one should be forced to take it.
On the flip side, I had J & J last week and had no reaction. Maybe in a year I'll drop dead from it, I really hope not, but after burying two cousins due to Covid it was a chance I was willing to take.
Sorry for your loss and glad you didn’t have the reaction that I did. That’s a chance you are willing to take but that chance should be a choice. Not a requirement.
Thank you. You are one of the only people who has ever offered their condolences on this board when I have mentioned that...everyone else glosses over it like two healthy middle aged women dying is normal. Of course it should be a choice, at least for now. But unless I have missed it this weekend as I haven't seen much news, I don't know of anybody being forced to get the vaccine.
All of these kids enrolled at colleges that are now requiring vaccination to return in the fall. 10 colleges announces this weekend. It’s no longer a choice for a lot of people.
Yes, I know about the colleges, but I don't consider that forced. You are an adult in college so if you want to make the decision to get the vaccine, you do it. If not, then you can go to a different college...or you can go totally online. Online college degrees are quite common and people have been doing it for over 20 years. They are real programs, not zoom schools that most of the school districts have been doing. As of now, I know of nobody who has been held down bodily to get the vaccine and I hope that never changes.
Depending on where you are at in your program it may not be easy to transfer (most schools will only let you transfer a certain amount of credits in) and if your school doesn't offer an online option you are screwed. Many colleges also don't offer scholarships to transfer students. I can understand if you require all incoming freshman to get it but I think that to require it for existing students is unfair. They can highly recommend it or potentially deny on campus housing but to not be allowed in school period is not right.
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I’m all for it. Vaccines work. I just had a direct exposure with a friend. I’m fine thankfully had multiple negative tests just to be sure.
I plan to get my kids vaccinated the moment it becomes available for them. It’s been 13 months. I’m over this and it needs to end. Vaccines work and vaccines are the answer I’m tired of people thinking their interpretations of things are fact, that their opinions are fact and that their Facebook news is fact. Science is science. People need to believe in science, get vaccinated and we all need to get on with our lives. That’s how it will end. Kids congregating in colleges, living together will cause a spread. Kids deserve a normal college experience, living in dorms, going to parties and bars, not sitting in a room on a remote learning platform.
All I know is my own experience. I got covid and it was completely mild. I got the vaccine and I was sicker than I can ever remember being. I will never take it again, and I will probably not allow my children to get it. Sorry that you are "over this" and you think vaccines are the answer. I think living life with certain risks is the answer.
You should absolutely get the vaccine for you and your children then but don't force your beliefs on anyone else.
I've read that if you have had Covid and get the vaccine, your reaction will be worse, so it makes sense in your case
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Re: Mandatory Covid Vaccines for Colleges
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I’m all for it. Vaccines work. I just had a direct exposure with a friend. I’m fine thankfully had multiple negative tests just to be sure.
I plan to get my kids vaccinated the moment it becomes available for them. It’s been 13 months. I’m over this and it needs to end. Vaccines work and vaccines are the answer I’m tired of people thinking their interpretations of things are fact, that their opinions are fact and that their Facebook news is fact. Science is science. People need to believe in science, get vaccinated and we all need to get on with our lives. That’s how it will end. Kids congregating in colleges, living together will cause a spread. Kids deserve a normal college experience, living in dorms, going to parties and bars, not sitting in a room on a remote learning platform.
All I know is my own experience. I got covid and it was completely mild. I got the vaccine and I was sicker than I can ever remember being. I will never take it again, and I will probably not allow my children to get it. Sorry that you are "over this" and you think vaccines are the answer. I think living life with certain risks is the answer.
You should absolutely get the vaccine for you and your children then but don't force your beliefs on anyone else.
I've read that if you have had Covid and get the vaccine, your reaction will be worse, so it makes sense in your case
It’s hit or miss with this.
Out of the 4 of us who had covid At the same time, 2 of us had a “mini Covid” for 24-36 hours after the shot, 1 had a headache for a few days and the others arm hurt a little and was a little tired the night of the shot and went to bed early.
The one w headache was completely asymptomatic. The little tired one was a little less sick than I was when we had it. My DH and I had the same reaction in the same exact timing of the shot except he had a headache with it (he had headache w Covid too and I did not)
It looks like there is literally no way of knowing how anyone will react. Prior Covid, no Covid. Younger, older. It’s really baffling. Similar to Covid itself. It’s a crapshoot
To add to this actual point of the original post: I have mixed feelings about mandatory vaccinations to go to college. It’s still an experimental vaccine so to mandate it seems quite iffy. As long as people SD and wear masks, it should be enough to keep safe
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Posted by lululu
Posted by jlm2008
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Posted by lululu
I had covid in January. It was very mild. I got the J&J vaccine yesterday. I had a horrible reaction to it. It was basically my covid symptoms times 100. I‘m just starting to feel better. There is no way I would subject my children to this. Ever. Immediately when the shot went in it felt different than any other shot I’ve ever had. Now I am a little freaked out because I feel like I made the wrong choice. There is not enough data on these vaccines. I regret taking it after having such a mild reaction to covid itself. I hope and pray that they don’t mandate this for children any time soon. In all of our lives I can’t recall any vaccine that makes people this sick. I know I’m not going to die from the shot but something definitely seems off. Everyone should have a choice when it comes to this and no one should be forced to take it.
On the flip side, I had J & J last week and had no reaction. Maybe in a year I'll drop dead from it, I really hope not, but after burying two cousins due to Covid it was a chance I was willing to take.
Sorry for your loss and glad you didn’t have the reaction that I did. That’s a chance you are willing to take but that chance should be a choice. Not a requirement.
Thank you. You are one of the only people who has ever offered their condolences on this board when I have mentioned that...everyone else glosses over it like two healthy middle aged women dying is normal. Of course it should be a choice, at least for now. But unless I have missed it this weekend as I haven't seen much news, I don't know of anybody being forced to get the vaccine.
All of these kids enrolled at colleges that are now requiring vaccination to return in the fall. 10 colleges announces this weekend. It’s no longer a choice for a lot of people.
Yes, I know about the colleges, but I don't consider that forced. You are an adult in college so if you want to make the decision to get the vaccine, you do it. If not, then you can go to a different college...or you can go totally online. Online college degrees are quite common and people have been doing it for over 20 years. They are real programs, not zoom schools that most of the school districts have been doing. As of now, I know of nobody who has been held down bodily to get the vaccine and I hope that never changes.
Depending on where you are at in your program it may not be easy to transfer (most schools will only let you transfer a certain amount of credits in) and if your school doesn't offer an online option you are screwed. Many colleges also don't offer scholarships to transfer students. I can understand if you require all incoming freshman to get it but I think that to require it for existing students is unfair. They can highly recommend it or potentially deny on campus housing but to not be allowed in school period is not right.
Exactly and it is not easy to just transfer nor do many want to who have been there for years.
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Posted by TwinMommyToBoys
I’m all for it. Vaccines work. I just had a direct exposure with a friend. I’m fine thankfully had multiple negative tests just to be sure.
I plan to get my kids vaccinated the moment it becomes available for them. It’s been 13 months. I’m over this and it needs to end. Vaccines work and vaccines are the answer I’m tired of people thinking their interpretations of things are fact, that their opinions are fact and that their Facebook news is fact. Science is science. People need to believe in science, get vaccinated and we all need to get on with our lives. That’s how it will end. Kids congregating in colleges, living together will cause a spread. Kids deserve a normal college experience, living in dorms, going to parties and bars, not sitting in a room on a remote learning platform.
All I know is my own experience. I got covid and it was completely mild. I got the vaccine and I was sicker than I can ever remember being. I will never take it again, and I will probably not allow my children to get it. Sorry that you are "over this" and you think vaccines are the answer. I think living life with certain risks is the answer.
You should absolutely get the vaccine for you and your children then but don't force your beliefs on anyone else.
I’ve been hearing that from a lot of people. That the reaction to the vaccine may be a lot worse if you had Covid. I wonder why that is?
I've heard that too. This is just my speculation, but maybe the immune goes into overdrive when it sees the spike protein because it already remembers the virus and attacks. There is no scientific evidence of this, just my thoughts.
Yes - it does make sense logically although I am not sure if it is scientifically proven. i did ask when I was getting the vaccine and they told me that it wouldn't matter.
Everyone should note thou that they are finding that 70% of people are having side effects from J&J - 50% of whom experience AT LEAST mild flu like symptoms with fever, chills, headache, fatigue. So half of the people that take J&J are getting sick.
Every vaccine and every medication that we have available to us comes with the risk of side effects. Generally speaking, most are mild and go away quickly. Rarely are they life threatening.
Everything in life is a game of risk. Do you want to risk getting COVID and possibly be one of the unfortunate people who get extremely ill (possibly even die) OR do you want to risk taking a vaccine with minimal known side effects and an over 90% efficacy rate in transmission and lessening the severity of symptoms? Having recently had moderate COVID and knowing the stress of what every new day could (or did) bring, I want the vaccine so if I ever have to go through this again the odds are even more in my favor. I've had countless vaccines over my 46 years on the planet, I've never had adverse reactions or issues. Given my health history with prior vaccines, I will take my chances with the COVID vaccine.
I feel like the vaccine/COVID argument goes in circles on these boards. At this point I don't really see what there is to say anymore and yet almost every day there ANOTHER vaccine post where for the most part, the SAME argument happens. Nobody is ever saying anything new. Get your vaccine or don't, I don't think anyone at this point really cares what someone else is doing and talking someone to death about why you think YOUR way is the RIGHT way won't change a person's mind.
If you don't want to read the posts, just skip it! I don't think I have ever once said my way is the right way, however you come off as someone that thinks what they are always right and you don't seem very open to a discussion in which others opinions might be valuable. You are condescending even on your best days.
I am sharing my experience from the past couple days. This is very new to me. I clearly couldn't have shared this information before. New information is coming out every day. You act like these vaccines have been around for years and we have tons of data on Covid and the vaccines.
Why are you so defensive and obnoxious? I quoted you because of the comment about side effects and then went on to say something else which wasn't specifically directed towards you.
I don't particularly care if you want to talk about this until you're blue in the face but the fact is, the discussion is getting old on these boards and nothing new is ever discussed. We're all saying the same things over and over again and realistically, I think we ALL know where each of us stands at this point with regards to the vaccine.
If my comments bother you, then take you own advice and skip them.
You are correct and I will skip your posts in the future. Thanks for the great advice!
Not worth your time and peace anyway as that poster is NE.VER wrong.
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Mandatory Covid Vaccines for Colleges
JennP
>>I'm fine with the vaccine being mandatory and yes, providing the trials go well for DS (11) I would definitely have him get it, especially as it's an mRNA vaccine.
Why do you say "especially as it's an mRNA vaccine" ?
Why do you like mRNA so much? Whats the advantage of that vs the old method of vaccines?
windyweather21
>>We don’t know 100% about how well the vaccine will work but we do know better ways of how to take care of yourself when you get Covid now.
How are COVID treatments different now than it was last year?
Christine2
>>I think the mRNA vaccines are the future. It is a brilliant way to foster immunity in a much safer vehicle than a live, attenuated virus.
I thought vaccines never use live virus? Don't they always say "the flu shot won't give you the flu because they use dead flu virus"
Its been 30 years since HS bio, so I know nothing about mRNA
Thanks all
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Re: Mandatory Covid Vaccines for Colleges
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JennP
>>I'm fine with the vaccine being mandatory and yes, providing the trials go well for DS (11) I would definitely have him get it, especially as it's an mRNA vaccine.
Why do you say "especially as it's an mRNA vaccine" ?
Why do you like mRNA so much? Whats the advantage of that vs the old method of vaccines?
windyweather21
>>We don’t know 100% about how well the vaccine will work but we do know better ways of how to take care of yourself when you get Covid now.
How are COVID treatments different now than it was last year?
Christine2
>>I think the mRNA vaccines are the future. It is a brilliant way to foster immunity in a much safer vehicle than a live, attenuated virus.
I thought vaccines never use live virus? Don't they always say "the flu shot won't give you the flu because they use dead flu virus"
Its been 30 years since HS bio, so I know nothing about mRNA
Thanks all
Some
Some vaccines have weakened live viruses...example MMR. That's why you may notice your child getting some measles spots from it.
Others...like the flu vaccine...have killed virus in them.
MRNA vaccines have no virus...live or killed
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Thanks for the info!
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Re: Mandatory Covid Vaccines for Colleges
mRNA is like a blueprint with instructions for your body to make a protein. In the case of the vaccine, you are injected with a small piece of mRNA that instructs YOUR OWN CELL to make a piece of the protein spike of COVID. Your body recognizes it as an antigen (foreign) and then incites an immune response. You are never injected with a live nor a dead virus.
The mRNA degrades rapidly (and is mainly the reason why we need 2 shots). It does not stay inside your cells for an extended time nor does the protein it is coding for look like "self" proteins.
It is revolutionary that they were able to produce a vaccine that is 95% effective in less than a year. Amazing stuff.
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Re: Mandatory Covid Vaccines for Colleges
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by newlywedT
JennP
>>I'm fine with the vaccine being mandatory and yes, providing the trials go well for DS (11) I would definitely have him get it, especially as it's an mRNA vaccine.
Why do you say "especially as it's an mRNA vaccine" ?
Why do you like mRNA so much? Whats the advantage of that vs the old method of vaccines?
windyweather21
>>We don’t know 100% about how well the vaccine will work but we do know better ways of how to take care of yourself when you get Covid now.
How are COVID treatments different now than it was last year?
Christine2
>>I think the mRNA vaccines are the future. It is a brilliant way to foster immunity in a much safer vehicle than a live, attenuated virus.
I thought vaccines never use live virus? Don't they always say "the flu shot won't give you the flu because they use dead flu virus"
Its been 30 years since HS bio, so I know nothing about mRNA
Thanks all
Some
Some vaccines have weakened live viruses...example MMR. That's why you may notice your child getting some measles spots from it.
Others...like the flu vaccine...have killed virus in them.
MRNA vaccines have no virus...live or killed
To add to what Nell said, “inactivated” influenza vaccine does not contain a live virus but the nasal spray influenza vaccine does. Yes, there are other vaccines that also have live viruses, attenuated but still alive and therefore still capable of being transmitted. Something that should be known to any person getting a vaccine with a live virus is that there’s a chance u can transmit the virus to others during the first few days after receiving the vaccine due to shedding and also it’s still possible for a vaccinated person to get a symptomatic disease due to that live virus. This rarely gets mentioned to people prior vaccination and considering the majority of the vaccines/boosters are received while being of school age, it should be absolutely necessary so the parent can take the right precautions so there’s no spread in school. It’s also worth mentioning that there’s a difference between a live virus strain from a vaccine and a wild strain caught naturally so the body tends to behave differently.
Regarding the mRNA, yes it does not contain a live virus. It’s a technology that’s been used for the very first time with this covid vaccine, it has never happened before (at least not successfully with animal trials). It tells the body to produce and recognize the spike protein that’s also in the covid virus. Although by theory it does sound promising, there’s a whole lot of concerns and unanswered questions involved with this kind of technology in vaccines and what it might mean to the body. From cells, DNA, self production of spike proteins that do not only exist in the covid strains, side effects/adverse reactions short and long term, potential impact to the body of components like the coating of the mRNA (PEG) among others, to the distribution of this vaccine to the population even though trials were not over making us part of the ‘real world trials’, to mandates of an experimental vaccine (not fda approved), etc, etc. But this is a whole other, complex issue to explore! Lol!
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JennP
>>I'm fine with the vaccine being mandatory and yes, providing the trials go well for DS (11) I would definitely have him get it, especially as it's an mRNA vaccine.
Why do you say "especially as it's an mRNA vaccine" ?
Why do you like mRNA so much? Whats the advantage of that vs the old method of vaccines?
windyweather21
>>We don’t know 100% about how well the vaccine will work but we do know better ways of how to take care of yourself when you get Covid now.
How are COVID treatments different now than it was last year?
Christine2
>>I think the mRNA vaccines are the future. It is a brilliant way to foster immunity in a much safer vehicle than a live, attenuated virus.
I thought vaccines never use live virus? Don't they always say "the flu shot won't give you the flu because they use dead flu virus"
Its been 30 years since HS bio, so I know nothing about mRNA
Thanks all
They are not just putting people on vents like they were doing last year when they had no clue about this virus. They prescribe certain things like zinc, vitamin d, vitamin c.
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Re: Mandatory Covid Vaccines for Colleges
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by newlywedT
JennP
>>I'm fine with the vaccine being mandatory and yes, providing the trials go well for DS (11) I would definitely have him get it, especially as it's an mRNA vaccine.
Why do you say "especially as it's an mRNA vaccine" ?
Why do you like mRNA so much? Whats the advantage of that vs the old method of vaccines?
windyweather21
>>We don’t know 100% about how well the vaccine will work but we do know better ways of how to take care of yourself when you get Covid now.
How are COVID treatments different now than it was last year?
Christine2
>>I think the mRNA vaccines are the future. It is a brilliant way to foster immunity in a much safer vehicle than a live, attenuated virus.
I thought vaccines never use live virus? Don't they always say "the flu shot won't give you the flu because they use dead flu virus"
Its been 30 years since HS bio, so I know nothing about mRNA
Thanks all
They are not just putting people on vents like they were doing last year when they had no clue about this virus. They prescribe certain things like zinc, vitamin d, vitamin c.
Vitamins aren't really "treatment". I've been on all three for years, upping my dose when I got sick didn't really do anything for my symptoms.
To answer the question, if you have a severe case of COVID or underlying issues that could complicate your condition your doctor can authorize the use of a monoclonal antibody infusion which can help to lessen the severity of your illness. I know a few people who received the infusion treatment and it really helped them. I spoke with my dr about it and it was an option that was on the table if my case of COVID got really bad. It must be given before day 10 of symptoms.
When you're sick, most doctors advise rest, hydration, deep breathing exercises, proning and most importantly monitoring your pulse ox throughout the day. Beyond that, there really is no other home treatment that will make a difference. You just have to cross your fingers, let the virus run through you and hope you're one of the lucky ones.
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https://www.uchealth.org/today/effectiveness-of-vitamins-c-and-d-against-covid-19/
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Re: Mandatory Covid Vaccines for Colleges
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by newlywedT
JennP
>>I'm fine with the vaccine being mandatory and yes, providing the trials go well for DS (11) I would definitely have him get it, especially as it's an mRNA vaccine.
Why do you say "especially as it's an mRNA vaccine" ?
Why do you like mRNA so much? Whats the advantage of that vs the old method of vaccines?
windyweather21
>>We don’t know 100% about how well the vaccine will work but we do know better ways of how to take care of yourself when you get Covid now.
How are COVID treatments different now than it was last year?
Christine2
>>I think the mRNA vaccines are the future. It is a brilliant way to foster immunity in a much safer vehicle than a live, attenuated virus.
I thought vaccines never use live virus? Don't they always say "the flu shot won't give you the flu because they use dead flu virus"
Its been 30 years since HS bio, so I know nothing about mRNA
Thanks all
Some
Some vaccines have weakened live viruses...example MMR. That's why you may notice your child getting some measles spots from it.
Others...like the flu vaccine...have killed virus in them.
MRNA vaccines have no virus...live or killed
To add to what Nell said, “inactivated” influenza vaccine does not contain a live virus but the nasal spray influenza vaccine does. Yes, there are other vaccines that also have live viruses, attenuated but still alive and therefore still capable of being transmitted. Something that should be known to any person getting a vaccine with a live virus is that there’s a chance u can transmit the virus to others during the first few days after receiving the vaccine due to shedding and also it’s still possible for a vaccinated person to get a symptomatic disease due to that live virus. This rarely gets mentioned to people prior vaccination and considering the majority of the vaccines/boosters are received while being of school age, it should be absolutely necessary so the parent can take the right precautions so there’s no spread in school. It’s also worth mentioning that there’s a difference between a live virus strain from a vaccine and a wild strain caught naturally.
Regarding the mRNA, yes it does not contain a live virus. It’s a technology that’s been used for the very first time with this covid vaccine, it has never happened before (at least not successfully with animal trials). It tells the body to produce and recognize the spike protein that’s also in the covid virus. Although by theory it does sound promising, there’s a whole lot of concerns and unanswered questions involved with this kind of technology in vaccines and what it might mean to the body. From cells, DNA, self production of spike proteins that do not only exist in the covid strains, side effects/adverse reactions short and long term, potential impact to the body of components like the coating of the mRNA (PEG) among others, to the distribution of this vaccine to the population even though trials were not over making us part of the ‘real world trials’, to mandates of an experimental vaccine (not fda approved), etc, etc. But this is a whole other, complex issue to explore! Lol!
BUT... science. Believe in it. That’s all.
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I just want to point out everyone I know who has been hospitalized with covid in the past 6 months (and it’s been quite a few) have recovered after a round of antiviral drugs combined with antibiotics. That is the treatment I have heard of the most.
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Re: Mandatory Covid Vaccines for Colleges
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by newlywedT
JennP
>>I'm fine with the vaccine being mandatory and yes, providing the trials go well for DS (11) I would definitely have him get it, especially as it's an mRNA vaccine.
Why do you say "especially as it's an mRNA vaccine" ?
Why do you like mRNA so much? Whats the advantage of that vs the old method of vaccines?
windyweather21
>>We don’t know 100% about how well the vaccine will work but we do know better ways of how to take care of yourself when you get Covid now.
How are COVID treatments different now than it was last year?
Christine2
>>I think the mRNA vaccines are the future. It is a brilliant way to foster immunity in a much safer vehicle than a live, attenuated virus.
I thought vaccines never use live virus? Don't they always say "the flu shot won't give you the flu because they use dead flu virus"
Its been 30 years since HS bio, so I know nothing about mRNA
Thanks all
They are not just putting people on vents like they were doing last year when they had no clue about this virus. They prescribe certain things like zinc, vitamin d, vitamin c.
Vitamins aren't really "treatment". I've been on all three for years, upping my dose when I got sick didn't really do anything for my symptoms.
To answer the question, if you have a severe case of COVID or underlying issues that could complicate your condition your doctor can authorize the use of a monoclonal antibody infusion which can help to lessen the severity of your illness. I know a few people who received the infusion treatment and it really helped them. I spoke with my dr about it and it was an option that was on the table if my case of COVID got really bad. It must be given before day 10 of symptoms.
When you're sick, most doctors advise rest, hydration, deep breathing exercises, proning and most importantly monitoring your pulse ox throughout the day. Beyond that, there really is no other home treatment that will make a difference. You just have to cross your fingers, let the virus run through you and hope you're one of the lucky ones.
It’s not really about randomly upping doses. It’s a specific protocol u must rigorously follow and it’s more than just zinc, vit D/C. Just like with any other viruses, this kind of treatment (or medicine for that matter) can only lessen symptoms, nothing will ‘cure’ it. It can increase the chances for ur symptoms to be almost nonexistent, or mild, less severe. If u had covid already, which probably at this point and after all this time most of us have had it either symptomatically or asymptomatically (I really believe most people have been asymptomatic), then by theory our B cells will secrete antibodies that "remember" that infection and stand ready in case your body should be exposed again, so u’d have that on ur favor so to speak. I agree with what u said on ur last paragraph about resting, hydrating as much as ur body allows u to, etc. Sometimes we take those things for granted without realizing that’s what the body needs to get better.
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