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nrthshgrl
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Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (updated Sandusky interview with Bob Costas link)
Article on Penn State Sex Abuse case.
I am utterly disgusted that adults would cover up their colleague sexually abusing children.
How the hell does this happen & no one takes that guy & beat the crap out of him? EYEWITNESSES walk away from young boys having oral & anal sex with an adult?
2000 -- Tim Calhoun, a janitor at the Lasch Football Building on the Penn State campus, tells his supervisor and another janitor that he saw Sandusky performing oral sex on a young boy, according to the grand jury report. A second janitor reported that he saw Sandusky and a boy leave a shower room and walk out of the building hand in hand. No one reports the incident to university officials or law enforcement, according to the grand jury report.
March 2, 2002 -- According to the grand jury report, a graduate assistant allegedly tells Coach Joe Paterno that he saw Sandusky in the locker room shower the night before, performing anal sex on a young boy he estimated to be 10 years old.
Source: CNN Timeline
Sandusky barred from being alone with grandchildren Updated: Nov 09, 2011 6:37 AM EST
STATE COLLEGE, Pa. (AP) - A former Penn State assistant football coach accused of sexually abusing boys has been barred from being alone with his grandchildren.
The Centre Daily Times (http://bit.ly/rpYKMJ ) said Tuesday that the temporary order was approved by Centre County Judge Thomas Kistler on behalf of three children.
Centre County Prothonotary Debra Immel tells the paper that the children, who live with both of their parents in a shared custody arrangement, cannot be in the presence or at the home of Jerry Sandusky, their paternal grandfather, without supervision.
Overnight visits at his State College home are barred. It's unclear to which of the couple's six grandchildren the order applies.
Sandusky is charged with having sexually abused eight boys over a 15-year period. His lawyer says Sandusky has maintained his innocence.
(Copyright 2011 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
http://www.abc27.com/story/15995095/sandusky-barred-from-being-alone-with-grandchildren
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I read the 23 page grand jury report. I think it really does clarify (and in some cases, it's not clear) the events & delves into the mind of the eye witnesses.
Here it is for anyone interested in reading it:
http://www.freep.com/assets/freep/pdf/C4181508116.PDF (obviously it contains graphic references & heartbreaking accounts).
I really don't think this was "done for football" with the grad assistant. I think he was told it was being investigated. I don't think this is a reflection of Penn State or the mind set of the "university". This was a piece of sh1t child molestor who used his position & his power to abuse children. The fact that he, his wife & his friend tried to contact one of the victims before he testified against the grand jury just solidifies the preservation mode people go into no matter how horrible the crime.
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http://www.freep.com/assets/freep/pdf/C4181508116.PDF
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Is Penn State Like The Catholic Church? Sandusky interview with Bob Costas
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal?
sickening
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal?
So incredibly bad that I cannot wrap my head around it:(
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal?
I could die reading this.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal?
Thanks for posting the article.
I just finished reading that article and I am disgusted. I had NO clue about the extent of the charges and how long this has been going on.
Anyone who KNEW about these actions should also be thrown in jail. 
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Anyone who KNEW about these actions should also be thrown in jail.
well those who knew and helped cover it up. Some people spoke up and were trying to take action, i don't think those people should be thrown in jail!
this whole thing is so sickening to me. that man is disgusting. using a charity to take advantage of all of these young boys for so long...
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal?
I cannot even beging to understand how these people knew and didn't do anything. All for football.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal?
I can't believe there were actual EYE WITNESS accounts and no one did anything?!?!?!?
OMG. I cannot even begin to imagine who could possibly let this happen!!!!!!!!
What the FUCKK?????
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rojerono
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal?
I would kill this man if he touched my son. Dead. No question, no hesitation. I am disgusted.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal?
It makes me physically ill. I can't even.
The only thing this man deserves is to be bubba's bytch in prision and be abused EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. for the rest of his pathetic life.
The fact that people SAW this scumbag do these things, reported it and STILL the tptb did nothing about it is just horrendous.
They should be ASHAMED of themselves.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal?
I've been following this on NPR and NYT. Paterno will be fired. BTW the people who saw something did report it to their superiors. It was TPTB that mishandled it and covered it up, including campus police.
I always felt that Coach Paterno was a man of great integrity and I am horrified and disgusted that he may have allowed something like this to be swept under the rug. I'm trying to reserve full judgement until more details and facts come out about his involvement/knowledge.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal?
There are no words I can come up with to express my utter shock, horror and dismay about the entire issue. Should the facts in the article be true, the fact that this "man" did those horrible things to children under his care sickens me to my very core. The fact that even with eye witness accounts it was covered up and for a long time sickens me even more. I feel like they all deserve to go to jail for both the acts and the cover up. Morally they will answer for their crimes. I think the school needs to be made to forfeit the next 15 years. Let them really feel the pain that they caused these children. It will cause financial pain and lack of pride to the community. They were all complicit. By putting football and these pathetic excuses for men in positions where they could exploit children and then turn their back when faced with the evidence sickens me. They should all be ashamed.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal?
Posted by Kazuri
I've been following this on NPR and NYT. Paterno will be fired. BTW the people who saw something did report it to their superiors. It was TPTB that mishandled it and covered it up, including campus police.
I always felt that Coach Paterno was a man of great integrity and I am horrified and disgusted that he may have allowed something like this to be swept under the rug. I'm trying to reserve full judgement until more details and facts come out about his involvement/knowledge.
How did he allow anything to be swept under the rug? Why should he be fired? He did everything he should have done given what he knew. A graduate assistant told Paterno that he saw Sandusky in the locker room with a young boy and that there seemed to be something strange going on... not that he was giving oral or anal sex, not that anything wrong was ACTUALLY happening. Paterno was told something by someone else and reported the possible problem to his bosses. He didn't see anything and cover anything up. He reported what someone saw - to him it was heresay. He's the football coach, not the President or VP or Trustee. He can't investigate any allegations. He did what he could based on what he knew. Why should he be fired for that? According to the PA Police Commissioner, he did everything he was legally abided to do...he's not getting fired, and he shouldn't be fired.
Anyone that was an eyewitness or a supervisor of an eyewitness that was told about the incidences should be fired. And eyewitnesses and supervisors should all be charged with not reporting it to the authorities.
The whole thing is disgusting. ABSOLUTELY disgusting!
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LSP2005
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal?
Posted by mrsBLT
Posted by Kazuri
I've been following this on NPR and NYT. Paterno will be fired. BTW the people who saw something did report it to their superiors. It was TPTB that mishandled it and covered it up, including campus police.
I always felt that Coach Paterno was a man of great integrity and I am horrified and disgusted that he may have allowed something like this to be swept under the rug. I'm trying to reserve full judgement until more details and facts come out about his involvement/knowledge.
How did he allow anything to be swept under the rug? Why should he be fired? He did everything he should have done given what he knew. A graduate assistant told Paterno that he saw Sandusky in the locker room with a young boy and that there seemed to be something strange going on... not that he was giving oral or anal sex, not that anything wrong was ACTUALLY happening. Paterno was told something by someone else and reported the possible problem to his bosses. He didn't see anything and cover anything up. He reported what someone saw - to him it was heresay. He's the football coach, not the President or VP or Trustee. He can't investigate any allegations. He did what he could based on what he knew. Why should he be fired for that? According to the PA Police Commissioner, he did everything he was legally abided to do...he's not getting fired, and he shouldn't be fired.
Anyone that was an eyewitness or a supervisor of an eyewitness that was told about the incidences should be fired. And eyewitnesses and supervisors should all be charged with not reporting it to the authorities.
The whole thing is disgusting. ABSOLUTELY disgusting!
I think it really depends upon what he knew and when. He is considered g-d at that school. So if he said not to investigate or not to do a full/complete investigation then in my mind he is at fault. Willful blindness to a situation is just as bad as being complicit when you have the power. He had the power. It really depends upon what he knew. I will leave it to the powers that be to determine his guilt or innocence.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal?
Posted by mrsBLT
Posted by Kazuri
I've been following this on NPR and NYT. Paterno will be fired. BTW the people who saw something did report it to their superiors. It was TPTB that mishandled it and covered it up, including campus police.
I always felt that Coach Paterno was a man of great integrity and I am horrified and disgusted that he may have allowed something like this to be swept under the rug. I'm trying to reserve full judgement until more details and facts come out about his involvement/knowledge.
How did he allow anything to be swept under the rug? Why should he be fired? He did everything he should have done given what he knew. A graduate assistant told Paterno that he saw Sandusky in the locker room with a young boy and that there seemed to be something strange going on... not that he was giving oral or anal sex, not that anything wrong was ACTUALLY happening. Paterno was told something by someone else and reported the possible problem to his bosses. He didn't see anything and cover anything up. He reported what someone saw - to him it was heresay. He's the football coach, not the President or VP or Trustee. He can't investigate any allegations. He did what he could based on what he knew. Why should he be fired for that? According to the PA Police Commissioner, he did everything he was legally abided to do...he's not getting fired, and he shouldn't be fired.
The NYT is reporting that the Board of Trustees are deciding when Paterno will be leaving.
Paterno's future
Anyone that was an eyewitness or a supervisor of an eyewitness that was told about the incidences should be fired. And eyewitnesses and supervisors should all be charged with not reporting it to the authorities.
Paterno would be considered the supervisor for the trainer. He's the HEAD football coach. The man is a living legend in State College. I'm not understanding why you want the eyewitnesses fired for reporting it .
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal?
Posted by mrsBLT
Anyone that was an eyewitness or a supervisor of an eyewitness that was told about the incidences should be fired. And eyewitnesses and supervisors should all be charged with not reporting it to the authorities.
Here's the thing though - it seems the eyewitnesses DID report it to their supervisors, but the supervisors failed to report it to authorities etc.
Regardless, it's beyond disgusting to think of a grown man doing this to children. It sickens me to think of all these innocent kids being abused in this way.
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nrthshgrl
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal?
Maybe I'm not up on campus policy but if you see a CRIME being committed PARTICULARLY AGAINST A CHILD, feel free to contact the police. NOT the campus police.
This is no better than the Catholic church covering up their sexual abuse scandals & allowing child molestation to continue.
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Paterno is absolutely partially to blame in this. ESPN was reporting that this animal was on campus and within the football facilities as late as last week. Whether he went to police or not (and come on, he ABSOLUTELY should have) he could have AT LEAST made damn sure that this monster was run out of town and anyone who thinks that this was all out of Paterno's control is obviously sniffing glue.
How could anyone who knew what was going on even LOOK at this piece of $hit?!?
The form of torture and punishment this guy deserves hasn't even been invented yet. And everyone who knew and did nothing about it are just as guilty.
This story makes me so, so mad that I actually start shaking.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal?
Posted by liadorbs
Paterno is absolutely partially to blame in this. ESPN was reporting that this animal was on campus and within the football facilities as late as last week. Whether he went to police or not (and come on, he ABSOLUTELY should have) he could have AT LEAST made damn sure that this monster was run out of town and anyone who thinks that this was all out of Paterno's control is obviously sniffing glue.
How could anyone who knew what was going on even LOOK at this piece of $hit?!?
The form of torture and punishment this guy deserves hasn't even been invented yet. And everyone who knew and did nothing about it are just as guilty.
This story makes me so, so mad that I actually start shaking.
He told the day after he found out... they didnt do anything about it.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal?
Posted by rojerono
I would kill this man if he touched my son. Dead. No question, no hesitation. I am disgusted.
this... a million times over
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal?
This whole story makes me sick!
Those who knew should've reported it to the POLICE not a supervisor. If they wanted to go to the supervisor 1st, than they should've followed up somehow. Because seeing that this guy was still around meant something wasn't being done. That's when you go to the police yourself.
All for the sake of football. Makes me sick
What did they expect the supervisors to do? Just fire him? Sorry but it seems they just wanted it to go away and not bring any attention to the school by having him investigated and brought up on charges.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal?
Posted by AngnShaun
Posted by liadorbs
Paterno is absolutely partially to blame in this. ESPN was reporting that this animal was on campus and within the football facilities as late as last week. Whether he went to police or not (and come on, he ABSOLUTELY should have) he could have AT LEAST made damn sure that this monster was run out of town and anyone who thinks that this was all out of Paterno's control is obviously sniffing glue.
How could anyone who knew what was going on even LOOK at this piece of $hit?!?
The form of torture and punishment this guy deserves hasn't even been invented yet. And everyone who knew and did nothing about it are just as guilty.
This story makes me so, so mad that I actually start shaking.
He told the day after he found out... they didnt do anything about it.
Yes, I get that he told the admins as he was supposed to... they didn't do anything... and I guess he felt he fulfilled his obligation blah blah blah BUT why did he continue to let this guy be a part of the "team", hang out in the facilities, etc? Wouldn't you have severed ties completely?
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nrthshgrl
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal?
I blame the eyewitnesses more than I blame Paterno. Everyone had a responsiblity but for someone who was witnessing a crime, they need to report it.
I'm so obsessed with this situation because I can't get over that no one did anything & swept it aside like it was no big deal.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal?
Posted by nrthshgrl
I blame the eyewitnesses more than I blame Paterno. Everyone had a responsiblity but for someone who was witnessing a crime, they need to report it.
I'm so obsessed with this situation because I can't get over that no one did anything & swept it aside like it was no big deal.
I can't wrap my mind around someone witnessing something like this and NOT going straight to the police.
I just can't.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal?
I went to Penn State. I am saddened, sickened, and embarassed beyond belief. I see the news and just cry. Trying to make sense of how this happened, how people could let this happen is impossible to comprehend. To make matters worse, It didn't just involve a coach. It involved Joe Pa, an icon and a role model to all Penn Staters and truly all football enthusiasts. This makes no sense and I fear that as the days go on, it will just get worse. My mind is blown. 
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