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lcherian
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Re: Curious: The Flu
Posted by MrsPenthouse
No formaldehyde, mercury, aluminium or thimerisol for my family! No flu either.
We eat clean, organic, whole foods diet, get lots of fresh air and sun and take natural immune system support. It works great!
Bingo! I take a natural flu shot in the way of a clean diet- I rarely eat out, I don't eat processed foods, I eat organic, limited sugar, no gluten, limited dairy, etc. It's amazing how much your body will love you and fight off illness if you just take care of it properly. 
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Re: Curious: The Flu
Posted by JenniferEver
I wasn't snarky to you, nor did I tell you how to live your life. I just gave MY opinion on the flu shot, as MANY other people have. I really don't see the need for your response.
It's your tone.
You come across as a know-it-all.
You just revised your post to include that you have health issues and your doctor recommended the vaccine.
Very different than just stating you are "pro-vaccine".
You and others have reasons for getting the vaccine, I and others have reasons for not getting it.
No one is "right" or "wrong" here, just very opinionated.
That's what keeps LIF going.
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JenniferEver
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Re: Curious: The Flu
Posted by SusiBee
Posted by JenniferEver
I wasn't snarky to you, nor did I tell you how to live your life. I just gave MY opinion on the flu shot, as MANY other people have. I really don't see the need for your response.
It's your tone.
You come across as a know-it-all.
You just revised your post to include that you have health issues and your doctor recommended the vaccine.
Very different than just stating you are "pro-vaccine".
You and others have reasons for getting the vaccine, I and others have reasons for not getting it.
No one is "right" or "wrong" here, just very opinionated.
That's what keeps LIF going.
I edited it about 30 seconds after I posted it and I edited it mainly to say that I feel more strongly about other vaccines such as MMR,whooping cough, etc given in childhood, than about the flu shot because as others said it is temporary. I AM very pro-vaccine in general. I'm supposed to get one because I am prone to respiratory illness. The same way my sister and mom are both in the category of "Should get a flu shot" according to the doctor, but they refuse it out of, IMO baseless fears.
if you don't want the chemicals at all, that's perfectly valid. you may feel something natural like the flu is much less harmful than any chemicals in the shots, and I respect that, but I feel fears of the government deliberately putting harmful things in the flu shot are baseless. No one on here expressed that, I was referencing my family members.
There are a lot of people who fear vaccines, and don't vaccinate children at all, and I feel it's based on unfounded fears and the fact that we're a generation who has never seen an epidemic of something like polio and how horrible that was.
A flu shot is whatever. I worry about my mom, but as others have stated, to you the possibility that you MAY have to suffer through a flu is not worth putting additional chemicals in your body and I do respect that.
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Faithx2
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Re: Curious: The Flu
No one got the flu shot in my house. Both of my kids got the flu but neither DH or myself caught it.
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Faithx2
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Re: Curious: The Flu
Posted by Beth
Posted by lcherian
Posted by AScottWolf
Yes flu shot, no flu.
I've posted this before on another thread, but I can't think of any reason why someone wouldn't get the flu shot.
If someone had a bad experience with it in the past either a) they were already sick and the flu shot made it worse because the body can't fight 2 things like that at a time. Or b) the had a reaction from the mercury in the shot and in the future should get the one with no mercury.
The only reaction at the majority of people have is a little soreness at the injection site.
To me the end justifies the means.
I'd rather not inject additives, preservatives and adjuvants directly into my bloodstream. Plus, there are no studies/testing (that I'm aware of) indicating that repeated exposure to the flu shot does not increase your chances of developing chronic illness later in life.
exactly! the ends to not justify the means to me! I can't even remember the last time I even took an anit-botic or the last time I got sick
 Even after both of my kids got the flu this year I don't regret not giving the vaccine.
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Jugglemom
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Re: Curious: The Flu
Posted by sleepie76
We got the flu this year, flu test confirmed.
I've never had the flu shot or given my children the shot. I was never really against it. I just never happened to get it.
Honestly, I've had WAYY worse colds. It was really not much at all.
I still wouldn't get the flu shot. I just dont see the need to inject my body with god knows what every year on the chance I might get something.
37 years, no flu shot, 1 flu. Still not getting it
I also think everyone that gets a cold in the last 2 months called it the flu. All these hysterical people going to the ER ??? There is nothing they can do for you. Take some tylenol and relax. Even tamiflu only shortens it by 1-2 days. Not worth sitting in the ER for hours next to someone with God Knows what.
It is really great that you had such a mild flu. It is possible you had the less severe B strain that is going around instead of the A strain. Both are prevalent this flu season but the A is more idle spread and more severe.
That being said everyone is impacted by the flu differently. I stated earlier in this post that my DH just had the flu. He was unvaccinated but both my DC and myself are vaccinated. We all eat a vey clean, organic diet so that was not a factor. In the 10 years I have been with my DH he has never had more than a sniffle - the picture of health. This flu knocked him off his feet! He ended up coughing up blood and was then diagnosed with pneumonia - a common complication. He had fevers of 105 that would not go down, incredibly scary!
Thankfully, the kids and I only ended up with some congestion and a mild scratchy throat. So, while we did not get off Scott free the alternative would have been way worse.
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Curious: The Flu
I think overall my concern for the flu involves infants, elderly folks and people with compromised immune systems.
I have some health issues but I took my chances by not getting the shot. Not judging anyone who believe in them, I'm just a scaredy cat.
When I was pregnant, they really pushed me on it. I didn't do it.
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sleepie76
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Re: Curious: The Flu
Posted by Jugglemom
Posted by sleepie76
We got the flu this year, flu test confirmed.
I've never had the flu shot or given my children the shot. I was never really against it. I just never happened to get it.
Honestly, I've had WAYY worse colds. It was really not much at all.
I still wouldn't get the flu shot. I just dont see the need to inject my body with god knows what every year on the chance I might get something.
37 years, no flu shot, 1 flu. Still not getting it
I also think everyone that gets a cold in the last 2 months called it the flu. All these hysterical people going to the ER ??? There is nothing they can do for you. Take some tylenol and relax. Even tamiflu only shortens it by 1-2 days. Not worth sitting in the ER for hours next to someone with God Knows what.
It is really great that you had such a mild flu. It is possible you had the less severe B strain that is going around instead of the A strain. Both are prevalent this flu season but the A is more idle spread and more severe.
That being said everyone is impacted by the flu differently. I stated earlier in this post that my DH just had the flu. He was unvaccinated but both my DC and myself are vaccinated. We all eat a vey clean, organic diet so that was not a factor. In the 10 years I have been with my DH he has never had more than a sniffle - the picture of health. This flu knocked him off his feet! He ended up coughing up blood and was then diagnosed with pneumonia - a common complication. He had fevers of 105 that would not go down, incredibly scary!
Thankfully, the kids and I only ended up with some congestion and a mild scratchy throat. So, while we did not get off Scott free the alternative would have been way worse.
I'm sorry your husband got so sick. That's
terrible.
We actually had the A strain. Guessing a weaker strain ?
The doctor that saw us asked if we got the flu shot, I said no. He than said,"dont feel bad, I've seen 85 people this week that had the flu shot and still got the flu."
I personally dont feel its worth it. However, if I had the experience your husband had, I would probably be singing a different tune.
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NewLeaf2012
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Re: Curious: The Flu
My 3 y/o son got the shot. My husband (immune compromised) got the shot, and I got it. (Asthma and sinus issues)...So far no Flu... My brother who didn't get it has the flu now. And he lives with us.
My Mom had a severe reaction to a flu shot about 25 years ago. She refused one after that. But we got them as kids. I had the flu once as a kid. My Mom had it almost every year. Now she is older and also lives with us, her Dr MADE her get one... NO reaction to it what so ever.. She didn't get the flu from the flu shot, she had a massive reaction to the needle!!!!
I have known people who have died from the flu and I even know 2 kids who have died from complications from the flu.. No flu shots. If I can protect my son just a little bit from that, then I will. Until his immune system is a little more mature, he will continue to get it. It won't protect him 100% but it is better then nothing in my book.. So far none of us have the flu now, even though my brother has it..
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Paramount
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Re: Curious: The Flu
Posted by Diane
Posted by Paramount
Still astounds me how many people dont get the flu shot.
yes, why???
For a few reasons.
It’s a hard question to answer without insulting someone, Ill do my best to explain.
I wash my hands. I use hand sanitizer. I try to eat "better" food ie: meat with no hormones/antibiotics. I eat a lot of veggies and fruits. I exercise. Because of all of this I have a great immune system. I only take antibiotics if ABSOLUTELY and completely necessary. I do everything I can to help my immune system fight off anything I might get
I am VERY well versed in the anti-vax movement, and all the reasons they give for non vaccination.
I am also not naive enough to believe that all of these things will keep me from getting the flu (or Polio, or measles, or whooping cough or...), or will keep the flu from killing me.
Will all of these things help my body be better prepared to fight the flu? Yes. Am I naive enough to think that the flu is "just" the flu?
Hell no.
Am I even naive enough to think that its "JUST" a shot. No.
The flu is a killer. The flu kills people. The flu is one of the most dangerous diseases to contract. Because of this I always wonder why people say "it’s just the flu". You ARE naive, and frankly stupid if you think the Flu is "just" the flu.
(And to clarify I am not saying you are stupid for not getting the shot.)
And because of herd immunity, those that don't get the flu shot put everyone at risk.
And to further my point. There IS risk in any drug, any immunization, any Tylenol, and yes, the flu shot. Science has proven the flu shot is safe and effective. YES! there is a risk. There can be side effects, and bad reactions, and worse. I would never deny that, and to do so would make me stupid.
In all my research, in speaking with neurologists and immunology experts, the reward FAR outweighs the risks.
Many people say the risk outweighs the reward.
I just wonder where they get their information from.
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faerychel
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Re: Curious: The Flu
Posted by Paramount
Posted by Diane
Posted by Paramount
Still astounds me how many people dont get the flu shot.
yes, why???
For a few reasons.
It’s a hard question to answer without insulting someone, Ill do my best to explain.
I wash my hands. I use hand sanitizer. I try to eat "better" food ie: meat with no hormones/antibiotics. I eat a lot of veggies and fruits. I exercise. Because of all of this I have a great immune system. I only take antibiotics if ABSOLUTELY and completely necessary. I do everything I can to help my immune system fight off anything I might get
I am VERY well versed in the anti-vax movement, and all the reasons they give for non vaccination.
I am also not naive enough to believe that all of these things will keep me from getting the flu (or Polio, or measles, or whooping cough or...), or will keep the flu from killing me.
Will all of these things help my body be better prepared to fight the flu? Yes. Am I naive enough to think that the flu is "just" the flu?
Hell no.
Am I even naive enough to think that its "JUST" a shot. No.
The flu is a killer. The flu kills people. The flu is one of the most dangerous diseases to contract. Because of this I always wonder why people say "it’s just the flu". You ARE naive, and frankly stupid if you think the Flu is "just" the flu.
(And to clarify I am not saying you are stupid for not getting the shot.)
And because of herd immunity, those that don't get the flu shot put everyone at risk.
And to further my point. There IS risk in any drug, any immunization, any Tylenol, and yes, the flu shot. Science has proven the flu shot is safe and effective. YES! there is a risk. There can be side effects, and bad reactions, and worse. I would never deny that, and to do so would make me stupid.
In all my research, in speaking with neurologists and immunology experts, the reward FAR outweighs the risks.
Many people say the risk outweighs the reward.
I just wonder where they get their information from.
I agree completely, word for word!
Again, I remember dreams of drowning, then waking up hysterically crying because I really WASN'T breathing, couldn't breath because of the flu and swelling.
The flu can be a killer, and if there is a chance of me getting my children or loved one's sick because I don't want to weigh the risks of getting a shot... I can't see the justification. Yeah you wash your hands as often as you can, and you don't put your hands in your mouth...but your toddler does.
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JenniferEver
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Re: Curious: The Flu
Posted by Paramount
Posted by Diane
Posted by Paramount
Still astounds me how many people dont get the flu shot.
yes, why???
For a few reasons.
It’s a hard question to answer without insulting someone, Ill do my best to explain.
I wash my hands. I use hand sanitizer. I try to eat "better" food ie: meat with no hormones/antibiotics. I eat a lot of veggies and fruits. I exercise. Because of all of this I have a great immune system. I only take antibiotics if ABSOLUTELY and completely necessary. I do everything I can to help my immune system fight off anything I might get
I am VERY well versed in the anti-vax movement, and all the reasons they give for non vaccination.
I am also not naive enough to believe that all of these things will keep me from getting the flu (or Polio, or measles, or whooping cough or...), or will keep the flu from killing me.
Will all of these things help my body be better prepared to fight the flu? Yes. Am I naive enough to think that the flu is "just" the flu?
Hell no.
Am I even naive enough to think that its "JUST" a shot. No.
The flu is a killer. The flu kills people. The flu is one of the most dangerous diseases to contract. Because of this I always wonder why people say "it’s just the flu". You ARE naive, and frankly stupid if you think the Flu is "just" the flu.
(And to clarify I am not saying you are stupid for not getting the shot.)
And because of herd immunity, those that don't get the flu shot put everyone at risk.
And to further my point. There IS risk in any drug, any immunization, any Tylenol, and yes, the flu shot. Science has proven the flu shot is safe and effective. YES! there is a risk. There can be side effects, and bad reactions, and worse. I would never deny that, and to do so would make me stupid.
In all my research, in speaking with neurologists and immunology experts, the reward FAR outweighs the risks.
Many people say the risk outweighs the reward.
I just wonder where they get their information from.
This is how I feel about it, too.
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Re: Curious: The Flu
Posted by JenniferEver
This is how I feel about it, too.
So do I. I am a big believer in clean eating myself, but realistically all it takes is one sick coworker, one sick family member visiting.... I don't care how clean I eat, I'm totally going to get sick.
I understand that all vaccines have their risks, and I'm actually a huge delayer and spreader-outer of vaccines for my kids. I have spent a fortune in co-pays taking them for individual vaccine visits, to spread out their vaccines but still have them up to date for school.
Yet, I do feel that flu is commonplace enough, and the side effects are rare enough, that the benefit far outweighs the risk for our family.
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JenniferEver
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Re: Curious: The Flu
I'm not really sure why people feel the long term side effects of the flu shot are unknown. It's been in use for 60 years. For that matter, we don't know the long term impacts of birth control pills since they've only been in use for 40+ years.
Actually, I think we've had flu vaccines longer than we've had penicillin and most people don't question the long term safety of that drug.
ETA: I feel vaccines have somewhat become a political issue and people have unfounded fears about them when vaccines have been shown to be both effective and relatively harmless for decades.
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Re: Curious: The Flu
Posted by JenniferEver
ETA: I feel vaccines have somewhat become a political issue and people have unfounded fears about them when vaccines have been shown to be both effective and relatively harmless for decades.
I don't want to derail this discussion any further, but just wanted to address this one point on behalf of parents whose children have a suspected vaccine injury.
Although my own children are fully vaccinated and never suffered any ill effects, I would NEVER dare to argue vaccine safety with a mom who saw their own child permanently regress shortly after receiving certain vaccines. I understand that no legitimate studies have proven a link between vaccines and autism, but these legions of moms who saw their children change forever right before their eyes.... can they all be total coincidences?
Just saying that not all fears are "unfounded".
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PearlJamChick
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Re: Curious: The Flu
I got the shot/did not get the flu.
First time ever getting the shot; I chose to do it because I was doing some travel in Asia and Europe just prior to Christmas...then Christmas with my baby niece and centenarian great-grandmother. Felt it was responsible to vaccinate myself against it since I would be around people very young and very old, along with being on two different continents just before visiting with my family.
I had the flu once in my life, about 8 years ago. It was - physically - the absolute worst week or so of my life. And I lived alone. Just filling up the humidifier took mental preparation and an in-my-own-head cheerleader squad.
In hindsight, I don't know why I went those 7-ish years in between getting the flu and last fall without getting the shot...I do see myself getting it in upcoming years.
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JenniferEver
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Re: Curious: The Flu
Posted by computergirl
but these legions of moms who saw their children change forever right before their eyes.... can they all be total coincidences?
Yes. The time autism begins to appear developmentally happens to coincide with the time children receive certain vaccines. Correlation, not causation.
And to the other point, a small number of people die every year from water. Things we consider perfectly safe all have nonzero risks of injury. There are rare cases of death from EVERYTHING doesn't make it, in general, not safe. All safety, in everything is relative.
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rojerono
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Re: Curious: The Flu
Posted by Paramount
Posted by Diane
Posted by Paramount
Still astounds me how many people dont get the flu shot.
yes, why???
For a few reasons.
It’s a hard question to answer without insulting someone, Ill do my best to explain.
I wash my hands. I use hand sanitizer. I try to eat "better" food ie: meat with no hormones/antibiotics. I eat a lot of veggies and fruits. I exercise. Because of all of this I have a great immune system. I only take antibiotics if ABSOLUTELY and completely necessary. I do everything I can to help my immune system fight off anything I might get
I am VERY well versed in the anti-vax movement, and all the reasons they give for non vaccination.
I am also not naive enough to believe that all of these things will keep me from getting the flu (or Polio, or measles, or whooping cough or...), or will keep the flu from killing me.
Will all of these things help my body be better prepared to fight the flu? Yes. Am I naive enough to think that the flu is "just" the flu?
Hell no.
Am I even naive enough to think that its "JUST" a shot. No.
The flu is a killer. The flu kills people. The flu is one of the most dangerous diseases to contract. Because of this I always wonder why people say "it’s just the flu". You ARE naive, and frankly stupid if you think the Flu is "just" the flu.
(And to clarify I am not saying you are stupid for not getting the shot.)
And because of herd immunity, those that don't get the flu shot put everyone at risk.
And to further my point. There IS risk in any drug, any immunization, any Tylenol, and yes, the flu shot. Science has proven the flu shot is safe and effective. YES! there is a risk. There can be side effects, and bad reactions, and worse. I would never deny that, and to do so would make me stupid.
In all my research, in speaking with neurologists and immunology experts, the reward FAR outweighs the risks.
Many people say the risk outweighs the reward.
I just wonder where they get their information from.
I find it interesting that people are ‘astounded’ by the choices other people make based on their OWN opinions, research and experience.
You have done your homework relevant to the flu vaccine and I am not remotely ‘astounded’ that your choice is to vaccinate. I think you are making the best choice for yourself based on what you know.
I opted NOT to vaccinate myself or my sons. My decision was based on careful research, conversations with medical providers that actually are intimately acquainted with my children’s health and my own health and experts in medical engineering including 2 pediatricians, 2 neurologists, 1 PCP, 1 researcher at the CDC in Atlanta, 3 alternative medicine health practitioners and several colleagues who happen to be scientists. One of those folks (the neurologist) actually SPECIFICALLY advised against the vaccination for one of my sons.
The flu is horrible. I’ve had it and I really do not wish to ever have it again. The flu CAN be deadly – but generally in people with compromised immune systems or other underlying medical conditions. A normal healthy individual should be able to fight off the flu effectively AND in the process may develop an even stronger immune system from the battle.
What my decision came down to was the fact that the vaccine would PROBABLY NOT harm anyone .. but also might NOT protect them either. The numbers weren’t compelling enough for me to vaccinate.
Ironically – my husband DID get the vaccine. He is also the ONLY ONE who has had the flu in our house so far this year (doctor confirmed). And we were ALL around him the entire week that he was knocked on his azz.
The upshot is that I am not naïve, unintelligent, uninformed or misguided. I do not think my decision warrants your astonishment.
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SweetTooth
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Re: Curious: The Flu
People need to do what is right for their families. I am into clean eating, organic, etc. and I choose to vaccinate.
Can eating well give you some protection, well sure, but to speak like it gives you immunity against diseases is kind of outlandish.
Our ancestors all ate "clean" in the days before processed foods existed and legions of them died from disease like influenza, smallpox, and the like.
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Re: Curious: The Flu
Posted by rojerono
Posted by Paramount
Posted by Diane
Posted by Paramount
Still astounds me how many people dont get the flu shot.
yes, why???
For a few reasons.
It’s a hard question to answer without insulting someone, Ill do my best to explain.
I wash my hands. I use hand sanitizer. I try to eat "better" food ie: meat with no hormones/antibiotics. I eat a lot of veggies and fruits. I exercise. Because of all of this I have a great immune system. I only take antibiotics if ABSOLUTELY and completely necessary. I do everything I can to help my immune system fight off anything I might get
I am VERY well versed in the anti-vax movement, and all the reasons they give for non vaccination.
I am also not naive enough to believe that all of these things will keep me from getting the flu (or Polio, or measles, or whooping cough or...), or will keep the flu from killing me.
Will all of these things help my body be better prepared to fight the flu? Yes. Am I naive enough to think that the flu is "just" the flu?
Hell no.
Am I even naive enough to think that its "JUST" a shot. No.
The flu is a killer. The flu kills people. The flu is one of the most dangerous diseases to contract. Because of this I always wonder why people say "it’s just the flu". You ARE naive, and frankly stupid if you think the Flu is "just" the flu.
(And to clarify I am not saying you are stupid for not getting the shot.)
And because of herd immunity, those that don't get the flu shot put everyone at risk.
And to further my point. There IS risk in any drug, any immunization, any Tylenol, and yes, the flu shot. Science has proven the flu shot is safe and effective. YES! there is a risk. There can be side effects, and bad reactions, and worse. I would never deny that, and to do so would make me stupid.
In all my research, in speaking with neurologists and immunology experts, the reward FAR outweighs the risks.
Many people say the risk outweighs the reward.
I just wonder where they get their information from.
I find it interesting that people are ‘astounded’ by the choices other people make based on their OWN opinions, research and experience.
You have done your homework relevant to the flu vaccine and I am not remotely ‘astounded’ that your choice is to vaccinate. I think you are making the best choice for yourself based on what you know.
I opted NOT to vaccinate myself or my sons. My decision was based on careful research, conversations with medical providers that actually are intimately acquainted with my children’s health and my own health and experts in medical engineering including 2 pediatricians, 2 neurologists, 1 PCP, 1 researcher at the CDC in Atlanta, 3 alternative medicine health practitioners and several colleagues who happen to be scientists. One of those folks (the neurologist) actually SPECIFICALLY advised against the vaccination for one of my sons.
The flu is horrible. I’ve had it and I really do not wish to ever have it again. The flu CAN be deadly – but generally in people with compromised immune systems or other underlying medical conditions. A normal healthy individual should be able to fight off the flu effectively AND in the process may develop an even stronger immune system from the battle.
What my decision came down to was the fact that the vaccine would PROBABLY NOT harm anyone .. but also might NOT protect them either. The numbers weren’t compelling enough for me to vaccinate.
Ironically – my husband DID get the vaccine. He is also the ONLY ONE who has had the flu in our house so far this year (doctor confirmed). And we were ALL around him the entire week that he was knocked on his azz.
The upshot is that I am not naïve, unintelligent, uninformed or misguided. I do not think my decision warrants your astonishment.
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Pomegranate5
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Re: Curious: The Flu
Posted by rojerono
I find it interesting that people are ‘astounded’ by the choices other people make based on their OWN opinions, research and experience.
You have done your homework relevant to the flu vaccine and I am not remotely ‘astounded’ that your choice is to vaccinate. I think you are making the best choice for yourself based on what you know.
I opted NOT to vaccinate myself or my sons. My decision was based on careful research, conversations with medical providers that actually are intimately acquainted with my children’s health and my own health and experts in medical engineering including 2 pediatricians, 2 neurologists, 1 PCP, 1 researcher at the CDC in Atlanta, 3 alternative medicine health practitioners and several colleagues who happen to be scientists. One of those folks (the neurologist) actually SPECIFICALLY advised against the vaccination for one of my sons.
The flu is horrible. I’ve had it and I really do not wish to ever have it again. The flu CAN be deadly – but generally in people with compromised immune systems or other underlying medical conditions. A normal healthy individual should be able to fight off the flu effectively AND in the process may develop an even stronger immune system from the battle.
What my decision came down to was the fact that the vaccine would PROBABLY NOT harm anyone .. but also might NOT protect them either. The numbers weren’t compelling enough for me to vaccinate.
Ironically – my husband DID get the vaccine. He is also the ONLY ONE who has had the flu in our house so far this year (doctor confirmed). And we were ALL around him the entire week that he was knocked on his azz.
The upshot is that I am not naïve, unintelligent, uninformed or misguided. I do not think my decision warrants your astonishment.
Well said.
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| Posted 1/28/13 4:47 PM |
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Jugglemom
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Re: Curious: The Flu
Posted by SweetTooth
People need to do what is right for their families. I am into clean eating, organic, etc. and I choose to vaccinate.
Can eating well give you some protection, well sure, but to speak like it gives you immunity against diseases is kind of outlandish.
Our ancestors all ate "clean" in the days before processed foods existed and legions of them died from disease like influenza, smallpox, and the like.
You read my mind!
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| Posted 1/28/13 4:52 PM |
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NervousNell
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Re: Curious: The Flu
Posted by Kitten1929
Maybe I am uneducated in the ways of the vaccinations, but I never had one growing up, I had one once as an adult because my company did them for free. I just don't really see the point when if I can still get the flu regardless of having the flu shot, why bother? It's my body and my health. To me, it just personally is not on my priority list and I don't think anyone should make me feel bad for that.
This.
I have never had a flu shot in my life.
In my mind I thought of it as something for young children and the eldery or immuno compromised.
I rarely see a Dr - so maybe that is why.
I just never once in my life though- yeah let me get a flu shot.
I also dont' think I ever had the flu- maybe once- but it was never diagnosed so who knows what it was.
I actually am suprised at how many people actually GET the shot.
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| Posted 1/28/13 5:23 PM |
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HeathKernandez
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Re: Curious: The Flu
someone I know from HS just died because of complications from the flu and he was perfectly healthy...
also- my neighbor, who is a HARD CORE vegan, healthy lifestyle, has the flu right now.
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| Posted 1/28/13 5:39 PM |
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Xelindrya
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Re: Curious: The Flu
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Kitten1929
Maybe I am uneducated in the ways of the vaccinations, but I never had one growing up, I had one once as an adult because my company did them for free. I just don't really see the point when if I can still get the flu regardless of having the flu shot, why bother? It's my body and my health. To me, it just personally is not on my priority list and I don't think anyone should make me feel bad for that.
This.
I have never had a flu shot in my life.
In my mind I thought of it as something for young children and the eldery or immuno compromised.
I rarely see a Dr - so maybe that is why.
I just never once in my life though- yeah let me get a flu shot.
I also dont' think I ever had the flu- maybe once- but it was never diagnosed so who knows what it was.
I actually am suprised at how many people actually GET the shot.
Young, old and Immuno compromised are the only ones that Europeans generally target as well.
Source (CNN)
getting a flu shot does not mean you WONT get the flu.
Message edited 1/28/2013 5:40:07 PM.
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