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SweetestOfPeas
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CA is asking for a $7B bailout, but spends
$11B a year educating and providing medical care (and housing prisoners) to illegal aliens.
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Posted 10/7/08 5:27 PM  |
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Ophelia
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Re: CA is asking for a $7B bailout, but spends
outrageous.
the first thing they should do is let the illegal aliens die in the street. that is where they belong....this way, they won't even have to use up any gas transporting them back across the border.
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| Posted 10/7/08 5:30 PM |
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azoodie
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Re: CA is asking for a $7B bailout, but spends
Posted by Ophelia
the first thing they should do is let the illegal aliens die in the street. that is where they belong....this way, they won't even have to use up any gas transporting them back across the border.
 
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| Posted 10/7/08 5:31 PM |
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SweetestOfPeas
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Re: CA is asking for a $7B bailout, but spends
Posted by Ophelia
outrageous.
the first thing they should do is let the illegal aliens die in the street. that is where they belong....this way, they won't even have to use up any gas transporting them back across the border.
I guess you don't see this is an issue then.
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| Posted 10/7/08 5:33 PM |
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RoleModel
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Re: CA is asking for a $7B bailout, but spends
Posted by Ophelia
outrageous.
the first thing they should do is let the illegal aliens die in the street. that is where they belong....this way, they won't even have to use up any gas transporting them back across the border.
Voting Republican, I see?
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| Posted 10/7/08 5:37 PM |
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Chai77
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Re: CA is asking for a $7B bailout, but spends
Posted by Ophelia
outrageous.
the first thing they should do is let the illegal aliens die in the street. that is where they belong....this way, they won't even have to use up any gas transporting them back across the border.
I know, those illegal immigrants sure do live on easy street....
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| Posted 10/7/08 5:39 PM |
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MegZee
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Re: CA is asking for a $7B bailout, but spends
nope, i'll just watch
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| Posted 10/7/08 5:39 PM |
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Ophelia
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Re: CA is asking for a $7B bailout, but spends
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
Posted by Ophelia
outrageous.
the first thing they should do is let the illegal aliens die in the street. that is where they belong....this way, they won't even have to use up any gas transporting them back across the border.
I guess you don't see this is an issue then.
why would you say that?
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| Posted 10/7/08 5:41 PM |
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SweetestOfPeas
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Re: CA is asking for a $7B bailout, but spends
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
Posted by Ophelia
outrageous.
the first thing they should do is let the illegal aliens die in the street. that is where they belong....this way, they won't even have to use up any gas transporting them back across the border.
I guess you don't see this is an issue then.
why would you say that?
I took your response as sarcasm
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| Posted 10/7/08 5:42 PM |
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Erica
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Re: CA is asking for a $7B bailout, but spends
having lived in CA and worked for MediCal - illegal immigrants are a huge part of the CA workforce and economy. Most do not abuse the system and provide benefits to all Americans (mostly cheap agricultural products...ex - avacadoes can be as low as $.25 each in CA). Even Arnold recognized their importance
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| Posted 10/7/08 5:42 PM |
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SweetestOfPeas
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Re: CA is asking for a $7B bailout, but spends
Posted by Erica
having lived in CA and worked for MediCal - illegal immigrants are a huge part of the CA workforce and economy. Most do not abuse the system and provide benefits to all Americans (mostly cheap agricultural products...ex - avacadoes can be as low as $.25 each in CA). Even Arnold recognized their importance
so 25 cent avocados and cheap produce = billions spent on their education and healthcare?
I would really like to know what the cost - benefit ratio is.
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| Posted 10/7/08 5:44 PM |
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Ophelia
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Re: CA is asking for a $7B bailout, but spends
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
I took your response as sarcasm
be that as it may, it doesn't mean I don't see it as an issue..
ETA: add A Day Without Mexicans to your net flix queue
Message edited 10/7/2008 5:45:33 PM.
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| Posted 10/7/08 5:44 PM |
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DRMom
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Re: CA is asking for a $7B bailout, but spends
Posted by azoodie
Posted by Ophelia
the first thing they should do is let the illegal aliens die in the street. that is where they belong....this way, they won't even have to use up any gas transporting them back across the border.
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| Posted 10/7/08 5:46 PM |
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Janice
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Re: CA is asking for a $7B bailout, but spends
first are we talking about just the brown illegal aliens or white ones too?
people seem to be much more tolerant of those that come off a boat then those who ran over a border.
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| Posted 10/7/08 5:56 PM |
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SweetestOfPeas
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Re: CA is asking for a $7B bailout, but spends
Posted by Janice
first are we talking about just the brown illegal aliens or white ones too?
people seem to be much more tolerant of those that come off a boat then those who ran over a border.
I'm assuming it's mostly Mexicans, since they border CA.
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| Posted 10/7/08 5:58 PM |
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Re: CA is asking for a $7B bailout, but spends
Posted by Ophelia
outrageous.
the first thing they should do is let the illegal aliens die in the street. that is where they belong....this way, they won't even have to use up any gas transporting them back across the border.
really was that necessary.... i mean that is just WRONG so wrong on SO MANY LEVELS... i am sorry they are people too and yes i agree they should be paying like me but to say this about a HUMAN BEING IS WRONG! JMHO
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| Posted 10/7/08 6:01 PM |
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DRMom
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Re: CA is asking for a $7B bailout, but spends
Posted by janet
Posted by Ophelia
outrageous.
the first thing they should do is let the illegal aliens die in the street. that is where they belong....this way, they won't even have to use up any gas transporting them back across the border.
really was that necessary.... i mean that is just WRONG so wrong on SO MANY LEVELS... i am sorry they are people too and yes i agree they should be paying like me but to say this about a HUMAN BEING IS WRONG! JMHO
Janet....it was a joke, a tongue in cheek remark-read the rest of the post
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| Posted 10/7/08 6:03 PM |
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Janice
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Re: CA is asking for a $7B bailout, but spends
Posted by Erica
having lived in CA and worked for MediCal - illegal immigrants are a huge part of the CA workforce and economy. Most do not abuse the system and provide benefits to all Americans (mostly cheap agricultural products...ex - avacadoes can be as low as $.25 each in CA). Even Arnold recognized their importance
most also pay taxes as well...it may not be to a number of their own...but they do pay into the system.
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| Posted 10/7/08 6:04 PM |
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Re: CA is asking for a $7B bailout, but spends
Posted by melijane
Posted by janet
Posted by Ophelia
outrageous.
the first thing they should do is let the illegal aliens die in the street. that is where they belong....this way, they won't even have to use up any gas transporting them back across the border.
really was that necessary.... i mean that is just WRONG so wrong on SO MANY LEVELS... i am sorry they are people too and yes i agree they should be paying like me but to say this about a HUMAN BEING IS WRONG! JMHO
Janet....it was a joke, a tongue in cheek remark-read the rest of the post
i really do not care if it was ment as a joke or not WISHING SOMEONE DEAD IS NOT A JOKE!!!!!!!!!!
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| Posted 10/7/08 6:06 PM |
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Erica
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Re: CA is asking for a $7B bailout, but spends
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
so 25 cent avocados and cheap produce = billions spent on their education and healthcare?
I would really like to know what the cost - benefit ratio is.
Avacados was one example...you would be surprised how much cheap produce adds up...I saw it when I moved there and felt it in my pocket when I moved back here.
but there are other benefits...like raising production for US businesses, rather than those businesses crossing the borders (there are tons of multinational companies, sitting on the Mexican side of the border in Tijuana and San Luis)
honestly, I'm sure a bit more is paid out for illegal immigration, but I have seen articles estimating surpluses and deficits from illegal immigration.
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| Posted 10/7/08 6:11 PM |
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Re: CA is asking for a $7B bailout, but spends
Posted by Janice
Posted by Erica
having lived in CA and worked for MediCal - illegal immigrants are a huge part of the CA workforce and economy. Most do not abuse the system and provide benefits to all Americans (mostly cheap agricultural products...ex - avacadoes can be as low as $.25 each in CA). Even Arnold recognized their importance
most also pay taxes as well...it may not be to a number of their own...but they do pay into the system.
What taxes do illegal immigrants pay?
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| Posted 10/7/08 6:14 PM |
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azoodie
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Re: CA is asking for a $7B bailout, but spends
<--- first time using the popcorn 
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| Posted 10/7/08 6:14 PM |
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SweetestOfPeas
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Re: CA is asking for a $7B bailout, but spends
Posted by Erica
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
so 25 cent avocados and cheap produce = billions spent on their education and healthcare?
I would really like to know what the cost - benefit ratio is.
Avacados was one example...you would be surprised how much cheap produce adds up...I saw it when I moved there and felt it in my pocket when I moved back here.
but there are other benefits...like raising production for US businesses, rather than those businesses crossing the borders (there are tons of multinational companies, sitting on the Mexican side of the border in Tijuana and San Luis)
honestly, I'm sure a bit more is paid out for illegal immigration, but I have seen articles estimating surpluses and deficits from illegal immigration.
here are opposing views...
It is estimated that there are currently about 12 million illegal immigrants in the United States. In California alone there are said to be 3 million illegal immigrants. Those supporting illegal immigrants argue that the state of California along with other states has benefited from the arrival of immigrants due to the lower cost of labor and their contributions. The lower labor cost allows businesses to more effectively compete with firms both at the domestic and international level. Illegal immigrants tend to have a reputation for being hard workers and will take on the jobs that Americans would normally not take on. The purchases of illegal immigrants contribute to an additional number of services needed which usually translates into the creation of new jobs.
On the other hand, anti-immigration groups claim that illegal immigrants take jobs from the American people. In addition, they claim that illegal immigrants have lowered wages overall because they increase the labor supply for unskilled work and are generally willing to take less for their labor. Critics of illegal immigration bring up that many illegal immigrants do not pay taxes and are a financial burden to the state of California. Counties as it is are already struggling to provide services such as healthcare and education. They are on a budget and find themselves having to provide services to illegal immigrants and their families as well. Another argument is that the children of illegal immigrants take up resources when it comes to education and make the education system worse than what it already is. A study done by the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) found the cost of illegal immigrants in California to amount to $10.5 billion annually. This figure includes the cost of incarceration, health care and education of illegal immigrants.
source
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| Posted 10/7/08 6:15 PM |
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Janice
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Re: CA is asking for a $7B bailout, but spends
Posted by dita
What taxes do illegal immigrants pay?
DH is in restaurant managment. In FL, NY, and NC the same practices take place. In order for them to be cleared to work there, they have to be on the payroll...so they keep the same SSNs on file, as different people come to work, the numbers get recycled and paychecks get cut. So, they are paying taxes, just not to their number.
Also, tax ID numbers are a common practice. Many illegal Mexicans pay taxes with their tax ID numbers.
ETA: NC is by far the most strict of the 3 states. Heavy fines are enforced. Since DH now works in a corporate atmosphere, there aren't any illegal immigrants working for him.
Message edited 10/7/2008 6:20:42 PM.
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| Posted 10/7/08 6:17 PM |
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Kara
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Re: CA is asking for a $7B bailout, but spends
Posted by dita
Posted by Janice
Posted by Erica
having lived in CA and worked for MediCal - illegal immigrants are a huge part of the CA workforce and economy. Most do not abuse the system and provide benefits to all Americans (mostly cheap agricultural products...ex - avacadoes can be as low as $.25 each in CA). Even Arnold recognized their importance
most also pay taxes as well...it may not be to a number of their own...but they do pay into the system.
What taxes do illegal immigrants pay?
Sales taxes for one. Additionally, many pay income tax, often with fake social security numbers.
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