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Karen
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Daycare and violations?
Is it possible/realistic to find a daycare with absolutely no violations? Every single one that family & friends have recommended have violations, but they are all corrected.
Part of me feels like if they did have a violation and corrected it, they may be more diligent about that area of care?
Thanks!!
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Posted 9/12/12 11:31 AM |
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NervousNell
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Re: Daycare and violations?
I think they all have some to some extent- what I look for is
1- what KIND of violation are we talking about? 2- have they corrected it?
If it's something small like- roof is leaking, etc, then it wouldn't bother me as much as something regarding lack of supervision of children or some gross safety hazard, kwim?
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Posted 9/12/12 11:37 AM |
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FlowerWife
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Daycare and violations?
i agree with the PP. when i was looking through the violations almost every single facility had one or another. it was almost impossible to find one that didn't.
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Posted 9/12/12 11:40 AM |
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MrsFlatbread
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Re: Daycare and violations?
I would say that it is not the norm to not have at least a violation during a visit. You should be more concerned with whether or not they are repeat violations which would indicate a systemic problem or whether or not they are corrected or not. Depending on the violation area, would make me be concerned or not.
Message edited 9/12/2012 11:45:25 AM.
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Posted 9/12/12 11:44 AM |
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mnmsoinlove
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Re: Daycare and violations?
I was a licensed provider and I will tell you it's almost next to impossible not to have violations. For example we were violated because when the licensor showed up the roll of paper towels in the bathroom had run out. we had not even realized it. So we were violated for a health and safety violation. Our correction was to put another roll in the bathroom. So I would really look at what the violation is because the licensors are looking for stuff to find when they show up. Obviously any real safety violations is what I would be concerned with.
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Posted 9/12/12 11:52 AM |
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JenMarie
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Daycare and violations?
Mine doesn't have any within the last 24 months. That's all the NYS website shows. But like the others said, def look at each specific violation and determine if it's really something important. Some of the things can be silly IMO. And if there's one violation in 24 months that's not serious, I'd be ok with that. If there are repeated violations, uncorrected violations, or serious ones, then I'd keep looking.
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Posted 9/12/12 12:05 PM |
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alli3131
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Daycare and violations?
My daycare does not have any. They have only been open since Feb though. I figure all will have some violations over time but it is more about what the violations are for.
When looking on the State website you see the violations and the section of the rules it violates but you have to really ask for info because somthign may fall into that section but not be as horrible as the section makes it sound. Minor violations I would have no problem with if they were promptly corrected. Repeated violations No I would not overlook.
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Posted 9/12/12 12:07 PM |
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TheDivineMrsM
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Re: Daycare and violations?
I'd be more concerned with the kind of violation. We were going to send DD to a site that had one on their record, but the state cited them for not submitting their menus on time I don't care if they serve mac and cheese instead of chicken nuggets, lol. Things like not doing background checks on employees, leaving babies unattended, or going over teacher-student ratios are much bigger problems.
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Posted 9/12/12 12:13 PM |
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Karen
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Re: Daycare and violations?
Thank you so much ladies! I am having such a hard time with this. The one we are leaning towards just had their annual inspection on May 25, 2012 and most things seem minor but there was one about a provider not being able to see a child at all times? Everything has been corrected, so I assume that means the state went back after the 25th and reinspected those areas??
Posted by alli3131
When looking on the State website you see the violations and the section of the rules it violates but you have to really ask for info because somthign may fall into that section but not be as horrible as the section makes it sound. Minor violations I would have no problem with if they were promptly corrected. Repeated violations No I would not overlook.
Do I call that regional office and ask, or do I ask the provider directly?
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Posted 9/12/12 12:17 PM |
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lvdolphins
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Re: Daycare and violations?
I used to work in a center and I've been through visitations. The state goes as far as checking garbage pail covers. (the cleanliness). I don't remember any violations at the center I worked for, but, I know the state looks for a lot. When you see "corrected", I'm almost positive the site was revisited.
For the one you saw (seeing kids at all times), maybe, there was a piece of furniture in the way or something like that. It may have came down to rearranging the classroom furniture/areas.
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Posted 9/12/12 12:24 PM |
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MrsFlatbread
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Re: Daycare and violations?
Posted by lvdolphins
I used to work in a center and I've been through visitations. The state goes as far as checking garbage pail covers. (the cleanliness). I don't remember any violations at the center I worked for, but, I know the state looks for a lot. When you see "corrected", I'm almost positive the site was revisited.
For the one you saw (seeing kids at all times), maybe, there was a piece of furniture in the way or something like that. It may have came down to rearranging the classroom furniture/areas.
This. It might only be a one time finding as well. Systemmic issues are much more concerning.
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Posted 9/12/12 1:33 PM |
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Karen
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Name: Karen
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Re: Daycare and violations?
Posted by lvdolphins
I used to work in a center and I've been through visitations. The state goes as far as checking garbage pail covers. (the cleanliness). I don't remember any violations at the center I worked for, but, I know the state looks for a lot. When you see "corrected", I'm almost positive the site was revisited.
For the one you saw (seeing kids at all times), maybe, there was a piece of furniture in the way or something like that. It may have came down to rearranging the classroom furniture/areas.
The garbage pail cover was one of the issues . . . lol!
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Posted 9/12/12 1:49 PM |
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snowprincess
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Daycare and violations?
actually the daycare i sent my son too had no violations and it was one the things i liked about them - it was in melville- calling all kids again
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Posted 9/12/12 2:26 PM |
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lvdolphins
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Re: Daycare and violations?
Posted by Karen
Posted by lvdolphins
I used to work in a center and I've been through visitations. The state goes as far as checking garbage pail covers. (the cleanliness). I don't remember any violations at the center I worked for, but, I know the state looks for a lot. When you see "corrected", I'm almost positive the site was revisited.
For the one you saw (seeing kids at all times), maybe, there was a piece of furniture in the way or something like that. It may have came down to rearranging the classroom furniture/areas.
The garbage pail cover was one of the issues . . . lol!
LOL. I just wanted to point out that a violation can mean anything. If it were repeated and not corrected, then, Yes, that can be a problem.
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Posted 9/12/12 2:33 PM |
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mig
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Re: Daycare and violations?
My daughters daycare does not have any. With that being said, I would send her somewhere where they may have violation but it would depend on what it was.
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Posted 9/12/12 6:57 PM |
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butterfly20
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Re: Daycare and violations?
to me its not so much of actual violations but WHAT the violations are........ some of them seem way more serious.....
I've seen daycare with no violations(it does exist), yet know the inspector just wasn't there to witness the behaviors.
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Posted 9/12/12 7:51 PM |
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maybemommy10
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Re: Daycare and violations?
Depends on the violation and if it has been corrected. Don't they have a certain amount of days to correct?
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Posted 9/12/12 9:45 PM |
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sleepie76
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Re: Daycare and violations?
Posted by Karen
Thank you so much ladies! I am having such a hard time with this. The one we are leaning towards just had their annual inspection on May 25, 2012 and most things seem minor but there was one about a provider not being able to see a child at all times? Everything has been corrected, so I assume that means the state went back after the 25th and reinspected those areas??
Posted by alli3131
When looking on the State website you see the violations and the section of the rules it violates but you have to really ask for info because somthign may fall into that section but not be as horrible as the section makes it sound. Minor violations I would have no problem with if they were promptly corrected. Repeated violations No I would not overlook.
Do I call that regional office and ask, or do I ask the provider directly?
I called the state website #. I was connected to the person that actually visited the daycare and explained what the actual violations where. It was really helpful and easier than I expected.
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Posted 9/13/12 7:40 AM |
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Karen
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Re: Daycare and violations?
Thanks everyone for the great information! We are on our way to check it out now.
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Posted 9/13/12 8:38 AM |
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