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KS13
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mini vent
Has anyone had an unpleasant experience with the sellers of the home they purchased????
These sellers (its an estate and there are three children) are just combative and unpleasant. Truthfully, I am not sure if it is just the oldest son who seems to be in charge, or perhaps their lawyer, but they are simply giving us an issue every step of the way. They even wouldn't accept our counter offer and insisted on one thousand dollars more (which split three ways is 333 each  )
Fine. I know some people want to squeeze every penny they can get out of others. I get it.
What bothers me is that there were three of them and their mother was living alone in this house. Two of them live locally. The neighbors have said that they never visited and essentially, after their father died last year, they never came around and just waited for their mother to pass as well. And she did in August. They wasted no time putting the house on the market.
The house was in a shambles. Peeling lead paint everywhere. Filthy rugs. I cannot believe they let their mother live this way. One of the windows was difficult to close, so they stuck a wee wee pad in it to block the air from coming in, instead of using a little muscle to close it. My husband was able to get the damn thing closed within a minute of pushing.
The issue is that we knew the bank would have a problem with the peeling paint. So we asked to go in and repair those spots prior to appraisal in order to facilitate it going smoothly. They said OK. We added an addendum to the contract. to allow us to do this.
Yesterday, the seller has the nerve to ask his agent if we (the buyers) are planning to keep going into the house and "making a mess".
Are you kidding me???!!! Making a mess??? They let their mother live in squalor!!! They should be ashamed of themselves!!! They should be thanking us for caring enough to try and fix issues for a house that ISNT EVEN OURS YET!!!!!!!
Do we have to see these people at closing? I am afraid I won't be able to be nice 
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Holy cr@p!!! Are they freaking kidding me??!!!
They should be kissing your @$$ for buying the house in such condition and looking to fix it up. They're lucky you didn't tell THEM to fix the paint!
Hopefully you don't have to deal with them much longer and the house will soon be yours and all their greed and nastiness will be a distant memory!
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| Posted 3/22/11 10:47 AM |
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KS13
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Re: mini vent
Posted by Belongs2DanBuckley
Holy cr@p!!! Are they freaking kidding me??!!!
They should be kissing your @$$ for buying the house in such condition and looking to fix it up. They're lucky you didn't tell THEM to fix the paint!
Hopefully you don't have to deal with them much longer and the house will soon be yours and all their greed and nastiness will be a distant memory!
I know..I am hoping or May closing date sticks..the reason we didn't ask them to fix the paint is that we got the house super cheap "as is". This "as is " has been a total PITA!!!!! 
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| Posted 3/22/11 10:51 AM |
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isabelle2137
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Re: mini vent
I had a very similar situation.
We purchased an estate from three children after their father had passed away.
The house was ridiculous - and these children never did a thing to improve any of it. I would die before I let one of my parents live the way this man did. They were also difficult with price and things that you mentioned - though we did not have a lead paint issue.
Luckily, only one of the children came to our closing. Geographically, she was the closest - her Manhattan penthouse was able to run without her for a day
She was nasty to me during the closing process and did her best to pull off the grieving child act. Meanwhile, I could go on for pages about the state of the kitchen and bathroom her father was using in his final days...
Just get through closing and hopefully you never deal with them again!
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| Posted 3/22/11 10:56 AM |
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KS13
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Re: mini vent
Posted by isabelle2137
I had a very similar situation.
We purchased an estate from three children after their father had passed away.
The house was ridiculous - and these children never did a thing to improve any of it. I would die before I let one of my parents live the way this man did. They were also difficult with price and things that you mentioned - though we did not have a lead paint issue.
Luckily, only one of the children came to our closing. Geographically, she was the closest - her Manhattan penthouse was able to run without her for a day
She was nasty to me during the closing process and did her best to pull off the grieving child act. Meanwhile, I could go on for pages about the state of the kitchen and bathroom her father was using in his final days...
Just get through closing and hopefully you never deal with them again!
I am continually amazed at how selfish people are. It makes me sad. I think about my Mom or Dad living like that and it makes me want to cry. 
I just keep focusing on the fact that from what we've been told the parents themselves were lovely people. I am sure they would be happy that it will be our first home and we will be starting our own family within its walls.
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| Posted 3/22/11 11:00 AM |
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Reading these posts just makes me so sad ... I cannot imagine letting my mother live that way, or my children letting me live that way.
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| Posted 3/22/11 11:13 AM |
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Before judging these people, is it possible that maybe the mother preferred to live that way or just didn't care? DH's dad (my father in law) lives alone in a big old house a few blocks from us. He has 2 dogs and he takes them out to walk once a day and that's it. He doesn't cook, and doesn't do any chores around the house. DH and DH's mother have been to the house numerous times to "clean up" only to come back a few days later and see FIL completely mess it up again. A few weeks ago, FIL realized the fridge needed cleaning and only did so because the stench was so bad it was permeating from the kitchen to the living room.
No matter what MIL or DH does when they visit, the house completely remains in shambles. FIL refuses to clean and apparently likes to live in squalor.
Sometimes these people can not be helped no matter how hard you try. Maybe these sellers are complete a-holes, but that is the price of buying an "as is" property. G-d knows what other issues there are with the house the sellers have yet to disclose. 
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| Posted 3/22/11 11:22 AM |
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julz33
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Wow, this really is none of your business!
"What bothers me is that there were three of them and their mother was living alone in this house. Two of them live locally. The neighbors have said that they never visited and essentially, after their father died last year, they never came around and just waited for their mother to pass as well. And she did in August. They wasted no time putting the house on the market."
I would just stick to the business side of things and don't get involved in personal nonsense, which is has nothing to do with you purchasing the house.
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| Posted 3/22/11 11:30 AM |
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KS13
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Posted by BatGirl9910
Before judging these people, is it possible that maybe the mother preferred to live that way or just didn't care? DH's dad (my father in law) lives alone in a big old house a few blocks from us. He has 2 dogs and he takes them out to walk once a day and that's it. He doesn't cook, and doesn't do any chores around the house. DH and DH's mother have been to the house numerous times to "clean up" only to come back a few days later and see FIL completely mess it up again. A few weeks ago, FIL realized the fridge needed cleaning and only did so because the stench was so bad it was permeating from the kitchen to the living room.
No matter what MIL or DH does when they visit, the house completely remains in shambles. FIL refuses to clean and apparently likes to live in squalor.
Sometimes these people can not be helped no matter how hard you try. Maybe these sellers are complete a-holes, but that is the price of buying an "as is" property. G-d knows what other issues there are with the house the sellers have yet to disclose.
I guess anything is possible, but the women literally had paint peeling off of her ceiling on to her table. The state of the house was not something that happened over a short period of time. I don't care if if my Mom begged me not to work on her home, there is no way I would let her live like that.
And I wouldn't be as quick to judge if they weren't so combative.
I am aware that I was going to have to deal with issues with the home itself, as that is why we are able to get the house for a decent price in the a desirable area.
However, dealing with attitudes and complaints that are unwarranted are not necessarily part of the "as is" deal. The way this man is acting you would think he was giving us the house for free rather than us buying his home and bring it up to code for the bank so the sale will actually go through..
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| Posted 3/22/11 11:32 AM |
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KS13
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Posted by julz33
Wow, this really is none of your business!
"What bothers me is that there were three of them and their mother was living alone in this house. Two of them live locally. The neighbors have said that they never visited and essentially, after their father died last year, they never came around and just waited for their mother to pass as well. And she did in August. They wasted no time putting the house on the market."
I would just stick to the business side of things and don't get involved in personal nonsense, which is has nothing to do with you purchasing the house.
Thanks for the advice.
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| Posted 3/22/11 11:34 AM |
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VickiRG510
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Posted by KS13
Posted by julz33
Wow, this really is none of your business!
"What bothers me is that there were three of them and their mother was living alone in this house. Two of them live locally. The neighbors have said that they never visited and essentially, after their father died last year, they never came around and just waited for their mother to pass as well. And she did in August. They wasted no time putting the house on the market."
I would just stick to the business side of things and don't get involved in personal nonsense, which is has nothing to do with you purchasing the house.
Thanks for the advice.
Wait a second - i believe this is just a side note of information which kind of tells you about the people selling the home. Maybe it is none of anyones business. But it is sad & disgusting that people allow their parents or elders to live that way. Also, its not like the OP went looking for the information. It was offered up by the neighbors. Who obviously know alot. In any case. Good luck with everything.
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| Posted 3/22/11 4:49 PM |
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KS13
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Re: mini vent
Posted by VickiRG510
Posted by KS13
Posted by julz33
Wow, this really is none of your business!
"What bothers me is that there were three of them and their mother was living alone in this house. Two of them live locally. The neighbors have said that they never visited and essentially, after their father died last year, they never came around and just waited for their mother to pass as well. And she did in August. They wasted no time putting the house on the market."
I would just stick to the business side of things and don't get involved in personal nonsense, which is has nothing to do with you purchasing the house.
Thanks for the advice.
Wait a second - i believe this is just a side note of information which kind of tells you about the people selling the home. Maybe it is none of anyones business. But it is sad & disgusting that people allow their parents or elders to live that way. Also, its not like the OP went looking for the information. It was offered up by the neighbors. Who obviously know alot. In any case. Good luck with everything.
Thank you 
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| Posted 3/22/11 4:59 PM |
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julz33
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Posted by VickiRG510
Wait a second - i believe this is just a side note of information which kind of tells you about the people selling the home. Maybe it is none of anyones business. But it is sad & disgusting that people allow their parents or elders to live that way. Also, its not like the OP went looking for the information. It was offered up by the neighbors. Who obviously know alot. In any case. Good luck with everything.
Yes I agree it was a side note. Sorry now that I re-read what I wrote it did come off a bit mean. Thats not what I meant. The vent really made me feel bad for the sellers. They lost both parents. The neighbors are gossiping about them. They didn't want to negotiate $1k lower, thats their choice, nobody knows their financial situation. Nobody knows what they have going on in their lives and why fixing up the house isn't their priority. They want to sell the house right away... houses are expensive to maintain especially when they probably have their own house and own expenses to worry about. So IMO its sad they are being judged.
The issue here appears to be, the buyers are upset about the "making a mess" comment. I personally have never heard of buyers going into a house to repair or do work before the sale. And if I was the seller I would be ****** if a mess was left... regardless of the condition of the rest of the house. If the job isnt already completed, I would speak to my lawyer about another way to handle the problem - like have the sellers fix it.
Just seeing things from the other side. Its your right to vent... feel free to ignore me.
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| Posted 3/22/11 10:31 PM |
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I don't see why you would go in to make repairs on a house don't own yet - that should be the sellers responsibility. It doesn't make sense to me...
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| Posted 3/22/11 11:14 PM |
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KS13
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Posted by staceyums81
I don't see why you would go in to make repairs on a house don't own yet - that should be the sellers responsibility. It doesn't make sense to me...
we are buying the home "as is". So the sellers dont want to make any repairs.
Everything falls on us.
We have an FHA loan. Thus, when the bank comes in to appraise the house to approve the loan, there are certain things that will need to be fixed to have the house meet the requirements of the bank. By doing it now, we are trying to save time and have the process be a little smoother, rather than waiting for the bank to tell us we cant having peeling lead paint in the home, or asbestos in the basement, etc. By the time the bank comes in and tells us that we will have lost precious weeks. We dont want to extend the closing date if we can help it becuase if the rates go up then we have to pay to keep our rate past the original closing date.
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| Posted 3/22/11 11:20 PM |
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MrsKS
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Posted by julz33
Posted by VickiRG510
Wait a second - i believe this is just a side note of information which kind of tells you about the people selling the home. Maybe it is none of anyones business. But it is sad & disgusting that people allow their parents or elders to live that way. Also, its not like the OP went looking for the information. It was offered up by the neighbors. Who obviously know alot. In any case. Good luck with everything.
Yes I agree it was a side note. Sorry now that I re-read what I wrote it did come off a bit mean. Thats not what I meant. The vent really made me feel bad for the sellers. They lost both parents. The neighbors are gossiping about them. They didn't want to negotiate $1k lower, thats their choice, nobody knows their financial situation. Nobody knows what they have going on in their lives and why fixing up the house isn't their priority. They want to sell the house right away... houses are expensive to maintain especially when they probably have their own house and own expenses to worry about. So IMO its sad they are being judged.
The issue here appears to be, the buyers are upset about the "making a mess" comment. I personally have never heard of buyers going into a house to repair or do work before the sale. And if I was the seller I would be ****** if a mess was left... regardless of the condition of the rest of the house. If the job isnt already completed, I would speak to my lawyer about another way to handle the problem - like have the sellers fix it.
Just seeing things from the other side. Its your right to vent... feel free to ignore me.
I agree Vicki.. it was a necessary side note to the insight of the sellers.
I personally didn't feel that bad for the sellers. IDK... I get they lost both parents... and that in itself is sad... but the mother was alive for sometime and yet living in pealing lead paint and asbestos?? that just doesn't seem like caring children to me. sorry if I sound harsh. it's one thing to have a mess... and I mean a real dirty mess.. it's another thing when we are talking about toxic substances.
There was an old old lady who lived in the house across the street from my mother. She was a serious hoarder... you couldn't get into any of the rooms... she was living in the smallest space possible. When the house was up for sale, people were running out of there gagging and unable to even see the whole place bc they couldn't take the stench. she had kids and grandkids. NO ONE ever came to visit her. And after she died... NO ONE ever even came to clean anything. The new owners had to clean it all.
This story reminds me of this situation. And I feel sorry for the old lady.. not her kids or grand kids who did nothing for her.
I guess when there are no visits and the lady is not just living in filth but also these toxic elements and then the family only comes around to sell the house ASAP, it just doesn't look good for the family.
The mess part and fixing it up beforehand.. I would agree with.. but she posted about the FHA loan... and if there is a prior agreement for her to go into the home to fix up things in order to be approved then that's the agreement between the seller and buyer. I know it's not ideal... but as long as there was some sort of agreement there.
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