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donegal419
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Re: Political Independents
Posted by neener1211
Posted by JessInCA
Where do you live? I'd like it if things worked like that where I am...
Then we could just have the presidential vote and ignore the primaries...
Might as well... I mean it's just going to be the person with the most money and "star power" that wins anyway... always is.
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Re: Political Independents
Posted by JessInCA
Bird382 - Where do you live? I'd like it if things worked like that where I am...
About 20 states have open or semi-open primaries in which unaffiliated voters (and those registered with a party) can select a candidate from any party.
Message edited 2/5/2008 4:31:46 PM.
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JessInCA
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Re: Political Independents
Posted by neener1211
Posted by JessInCA
Where do you live? I'd like it if things worked like that where I am...
Then we could just have the presidential vote and ignore the primaries...
Yeah, I know... like I said, I understand why they do it, I just wish I could participate too. I don't like being left out!
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neener1211
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Re: Political Independents
Posted by bird382
Posted by JessInCA
Bird382 - Where do you live? I'd like it if things worked like that where I am...
MO. About 20 states have open or semi-open primaries in which unaffiliated voters (and those registered with a party) can select a candidate from any party.
How accurate could a primary be then? If it is meant for just the individual parties?
If unaffiliated voters are voting in only 1/2 of the states, shouldn't it be open and be fair for people in other states? Kinda messed up.
We should either just get rid of primaries and vote for anyone that wants to run...or if you want to vote one cadidate for each party, open it up to everyone.
Makes no sense.
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Whamtastic
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Re: Political Independents
Posted by neener1211
How accurate could a primary be then? If it is meant for just the individual parties? ...if you want to vote one cadidate for each party, open it up to everyone.
Makes no sense.
I dissagree. The purpose of a primary is for members of a party to decide who their nominee will be in the presidential election. Why should registered Republicans who are likely to vote that way in November be allowed to decide who the Democratice nominee will be and vice versa? I think it would lead to a lot of people voting for the "worst" candidate on the other side, to give their guy a leg up.
I don't know what you mean by primaries being accurate. They just are what they are.
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Kara
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Re: Political Independents
Posted by neener1211
Posted by bird382
Posted by JessInCA
Bird382 - Where do you live? I'd like it if things worked like that where I am...
MO. About 20 states have open or semi-open primaries in which unaffiliated voters (and those registered with a party) can select a candidate from any party.
How accurate could a primary be then? If it is meant for just the individual parties?
If unaffiliated voters are voting in only 1/2 of the states, shouldn't it be open and be fair for people in other states? Kinda messed up.
We should either just get rid of primaries and vote for anyone that wants to run...or if you want to vote one cadidate for each party, open it up to everyone.
Makes no sense.
Doesn't the particular party in that particular state have to choose who can vote in its primary? Or does the state itself designate this?
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heidla
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Re: Political Independents
I am a registered Independent. I originally registered that way because I was 18 and didn't like the idea of saying that I was going to vote along party lines. Now, many,many years later I have chosen to keep my Independent status.
I consider myself extremely liberal when it comes to social issues, but when it comes to fiscal issues I am more in the middle. For instance, I believe that people and institutions that took and gave mortgages to those that really couldn't afford the house they were buying shouldn't be saved by those of us that live within our means. Yes, this sounds harsh (well, it is), but whatever happened to personal responsibility?
On the other hand, I find it absolutely ridiculous to continue giving tax rebates when the nation is so far in the red we can't even catch a glimpse of where the black starts.
So, as you can see I stand in the middle. However, I will be voting for the candidate that I believe will end these wars, not mess around with the constitution and help Americans find affordable healthcare. Hmmmm, I wonder which party that will be?!?
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bird382
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Re: Political Independents
Posted by Whamtastic
I think it would lead to a lot of people voting for the "worst" candidate on the other side, to give their guy a leg up.
That's what I thought, too, but apparently there are a bunch of studies that show that this doesn't happen...or at least not often enough to affect the results.
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heidla
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Re: Political Independents
Posted by neener1211
Posted by bird382
Posted by JessInCA
Bird382 - Where do you live? I'd like it if things worked like that where I am...
MO. About 20 states have open or semi-open primaries in which unaffiliated voters (and those registered with a party) can select a candidate from any party.
How accurate could a primary be then? If it is meant for just the individual parties?
If unaffiliated voters are voting in only 1/2 of the states, shouldn't it be open and be fair for people in other states? Kinda messed up.
We should either just get rid of primaries and vote for anyone that wants to run...or if you want to vote one cadidate for each party, open it up to everyone.
Makes no sense.
Let's face it our whole political process makes no sense. It is in serious need of an overhaul!!!
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Ophelia
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Re: Political Independents
I don't think it's really that crazy.
being independent just means that you don't know, either way, who you want.
however, if a candidate in either party strikes you as being worthy, then you have the option to make sure they are voted in as the candidate for president of the United States.
obviously, this can work in the reverse, but that is not really what it's there for.
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sticklee
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Re: Political Independents
i think people are missing the point of a primary
the point of the primary is so that the members of a party (i.e. Republican or Democrat) can elect who they want to represent them in the presidential election
there are some states which allow Independents (or those not party affiliated) to vote in either primary.
if the primaries were opened up to other parties (for example, registered Democrats voting in the Republican primary, and vice versa) there goes the point of allowing the group to elect their leader. what say should a registered Democrat have in deciding who represents the Republican party? and vice versa
edited to add that i happen to live in a state which allows independents to vote in the primary. therefore, i have not registered with a party, so i get to choose. if i lived in a state that did not allow this, i would probably register within the party that i tend to vote with the most, so that i could participate in the primary
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