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ElizaRags35
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New way of doing business in the US, apparently....
Disgusting and embarrassing.
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Posted 1/12/17 2:41 PM  |
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BargainMama
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Re: New way of doing business in the US, apparently....
and on the flip side, he is the first to bash a business. Why do you think Sprint, Ford, etc. are all moving business back to the US? Because they don't want the backlash from Trump.
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| Posted 1/12/17 2:45 PM |
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mrsrainbow
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Re: New way of doing business in the US, apparently....
Posted by BargainMama
and on the flip side, he is the first to bash a business. Why do you think Sprint, Ford, etc. are all moving business back to the US? Because they don't want the backlash from Trump.
So this is how he's gonna make America great again - by berating and making American businesses fear his wrath 
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| Posted 1/12/17 2:51 PM |
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GoldenRod
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Re: New way of doing business in the US, apparently....
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by BargainMama
and on the flip side, he is the first to bash a business. Why do you think Sprint, Ford, etc. are all moving business back to the US? Because they don't want the backlash from Trump.
So this is how he's gonna make America great again - by berating and making American businesses fear his wrath
... and despite what Trump thinks, corporations aren't making multi-billion dollar decisions based on a tweet...
It's possible that months from now, decisions may be made based on the current environment, but there are other reasons why Ford and Sprint changed their plans.
Ford is legitimately seeing a decrease in demand for small cars, so they are dropping their plans for a small car plant in Mexico. They are still moving production of their Focus to Mexico.
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| Posted 1/12/17 2:56 PM |
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MC09
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Re: New way of doing business in the US, apparently....
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So, apparently, Trump will increase or decrease your stocks and company status by how deep you can climb up his @ss..... 
Why is a PE shilling for companies.
I used to hate the phrase "I can't even...", but I find myself using it a lot lately.
The donation isn't what prompted the text. It was in response to Grab Your Wallet's boycott of LL Bean for her support of Trump. Why is supporting a presidential candidate the cause for a boycott now? This country is so divided, that's not going to help, it's just going to further the divide. While I don't know that it is Trump's place to get involved in the form of a tweet I certainly don't think this was just him "shilling for companies."
Lululu, I am speaking in general, not referring to you, but when people accuse anti Trump people of "furthering the divide", I equate that to accusing an abused spouse of furthering the conflict when they go to press charges.
People are fighting back against a man whose policies will literally kill people. Money talks. Why not boycott businesses who support him? Makes perfect sense to me!
I'm sorry, I disagree. He is not in office yet, none of his policies have killed anyone that I know of to date. I think boycotting a company based on their political donations is inappropriate. I am not accusing anti-Trump people of furthering the divide, I am accusing Grab Your Wallet of furthering the divide.
How is boycotting a company for any reason inappropriate? People will pick and choose where to spend their money however and wherever they see fit. Some people may think you supporting a company who supports what Trump stands for to be inappropriate. But you can continue to buy up LL Bean crap or spend your money as you wish. It's not for anyone to say how you should spend your money just like it's not for you to say what is and isn't appropriate when it comes to others choosing to boycott a business for their own valid reasons.
How is Trump bashing businesses on social media or praising the ones that throw money at him appropriate?
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| Posted 1/12/17 3:10 PM |
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BargainMama
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Re: New way of doing business in the US, apparently....
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by BargainMama
and on the flip side, he is the first to bash a business. Why do you think Sprint, Ford, etc. are all moving business back to the US? Because they don't want the backlash from Trump.
So this is how he's gonna make America great again - by berating and making American businesses fear his wrath
Yup, and then all the people who voted for him "to make America great again" will be crying because car prices are double (auto industry jobs are GOOD jobs to have in the Midwest), cell phone plans go up, etc. etc. etc.!
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| Posted 1/12/17 3:47 PM |
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mrsrainbow
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Re: New way of doing business in the US, apparently....
Posted by BargainMama
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by BargainMama
and on the flip side, he is the first to bash a business. Why do you think Sprint, Ford, etc. are all moving business back to the US? Because they don't want the backlash from Trump.
So this is how he's gonna make America great again - by berating and making American businesses fear his wrath
Yup, and then all the people who voted for him "to make America great again" will be crying because car prices are double (auto industry jobs are GOOD jobs to have in the Midwest), cell phone plans go up, etc. etc. etc.!
Not to mention how many Americans don't know that their insurance is through ACA - legitimately there are people who think Obamacare and ACA are different 
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| Posted 1/12/17 4:13 PM |
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stinger
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Re: New way of doing business in the US, apparently....
Sorry guys this is another distraction from some very major issues....
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| Posted 1/12/17 4:38 PM |
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MrsT809
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Re: New way of doing business in the US, apparently....
Posted by stinger
Sorry guys this is another distraction from some very major issues....
At least the media is not getting stuck talking about his tweets as much. I just can't believe they're back to the emails. Nothing is going to come of it so let's talk about what's going on now.
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| Posted 1/12/17 5:07 PM |
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lululu
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Re: New way of doing business in the US, apparently....
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Posted by GoldenRod
So, apparently, Trump will increase or decrease your stocks and company status by how deep you can climb up his @ss.....
Why is a PE shilling for companies.
I used to hate the phrase "I can't even...", but I find myself using it a lot lately.
The donation isn't what prompted the text. It was in response to Grab Your Wallet's boycott of LL Bean for her support of Trump. Why is supporting a presidential candidate the cause for a boycott now? This country is so divided, that's not going to help, it's just going to further the divide. While I don't know that it is Trump's place to get involved in the form of a tweet I certainly don't think this was just him "shilling for companies."
Lululu, I am speaking in general, not referring to you, but when people accuse anti Trump people of "furthering the divide", I equate that to accusing an abused spouse of furthering the conflict when they go to press charges.
People are fighting back against a man whose policies will literally kill people. Money talks. Why not boycott businesses who support him? Makes perfect sense to me!
I'm sorry, I disagree. He is not in office yet, none of his policies have killed anyone that I know of to date. I think boycotting a company based on their political donations is inappropriate. I am not accusing anti-Trump people of furthering the divide, I am accusing Grab Your Wallet of furthering the divide.
But LL Bean can and has defended themselves in this situation. That is their job, not Trump's. It is up to individuals to take in all the information and decide where to spend their money. Trump should be focused on much more important issues.
Yes, I said I didn't think that he should get involved in the form of a tweet. But I don't think Grab Your Wallet should advocate for boycotting a company because of their owner's political donations. I think American people are generally too stupid to make decisions for themselves and have too much herd mentality and that can be harmful for a lot of people.
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| Posted 1/12/17 5:55 PM |
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lululu
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Re: New way of doing business in the US, apparently....
Posted by JennP
If you or someone you loved was going to suffer the way some people have described, I bet you would think any expression of outrage is appropriate.
Or, maybe I do know people that would be affected, people in my own family, and perhaps I still don't think this is appropriate. It's foolish to make assumptions about people on here. Also, her support was a donation in the past. Boycotting them now doesn't really achieve anything as far as the ACA being repealed goes. I think there are other ways to make a point that would be more appropriate.
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| Posted 1/12/17 5:57 PM |
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MegZee
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New way of doing business in the US, apparently....
Someone needs to deactivate his twitter.
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| Posted 1/12/17 6:46 PM |
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MsSissy
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Re: New way of doing business in the US, apparently....
Posted by EatingMyVeggies
He actually meant LL bean but tweeted at a lobster division
Linda beans perfect Maine lobsters.
This is what an idiot he is.
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| Posted 1/12/17 8:04 PM |
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JennP
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Re: New way of doing business in the US, apparently....
Posted by lululu
Posted by JennP
If you or someone you loved was going to suffer the way some people have described, I bet you would think any expression of outrage is appropriate.
It's foolish to make assumptions about people on here.
I think there are other ways to make a point that would be more appropriate.
Obviously some ways are more potent than others. But speaking out loudly and clearly on multiple platforms is the only way to affect change here.
And your comment about assumptions is big talk from someone who came on here a few weeks ago and stated that most people on here don't care about the police.
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| Posted 1/12/17 10:59 PM |
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lululu
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Re: New way of doing business in the US, apparently....
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Posted by JennP
If you or someone you loved was going to suffer the way some people have described, I bet you would think any expression of outrage is appropriate.
It's foolish to make assumptions about people on here.
I think there are other ways to make a point that would be more appropriate.
Obviously some ways are more potent than others. But speaking out loudly and clearly on multiple platforms is the only way to affect change here.
And your comment about assumptions is big talk from someone who came on here a few weeks ago and stated that most people on here don't care about the police.
That's actually not what I said, I said I didn't think there was a point in posting that thread given the attitude of a lot of people on here.
The problem on here with you and a lot of other posters is that if I say I don't like Obamacare and I am not up in arms about what's going on it's because it doesn't affect me personally. That's not the case at all. It's just that I think that there is a better way and I am hoping that they can come up with it. I might not agree with the way it's being done, or I might. People have different views on this, not everything is black and white - even for families that will be dramatically affected. I think that the healthcare industry, in particular the health insurance industry is so corrupt even after Obamacare and I would like to see the whole thing overhauled. I actually was very pro Obama in 2007 because I really did hope for a vast improvement to the health insurance industry, but I don't think we got there.
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| Posted 1/13/17 9:08 AM |
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JennP
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Re: New way of doing business in the US, apparently....
Posted by lululu
Posted by JennP
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Posted by JennP
If you or someone you loved was going to suffer the way some people have described, I bet you would think any expression of outrage is appropriate.
It's foolish to make assumptions about people on here.
I think there are other ways to make a point that would be more appropriate.
Obviously some ways are more potent than others. But speaking out loudly and clearly on multiple platforms is the only way to affect change here.
And your comment about assumptions is big talk from someone who came on here a few weeks ago and stated that most people on here don't care about the police.
That's actually not what I said, I said I didn't think there was a point in posting that thread given the attitude of a lot of people on here.
The problem on here with you and a lot of other posters is that if I say I don't like Obamacare and I am not up in arms about what's going on it's because it doesn't affect me personally. That's not the case at all. It's just that I think that there is a better way and I am hoping that they can come up with it. I might not agree with the way it's being done, or I might. People have different views on this, not everything is black and white - even for families that will be dramatically affected. I think that the healthcare industry, in particular the health insurance industry is so corrupt even after Obamacare and I would like to see the whole thing overhauled. I actually was very pro Obama in 2007 because I really did hope for a vast improvement to the health insurance industry, but I don't think we got there.
There is a difference between "not being up in arms about it" and claiming that a boycott is "inappropriate."
The former is your choice, whether or not you know anyone personally. My own DH is not up in arms about it but I know he supports me in other ways by watching DS when I am out in meetings or doing other activism.
The latter reeks of dismissal and disdain for people who are pulling out every stop to keep people from dying. You don't have to participate, but to call out people who are boycotting a business to portray them as if THEY are doing something wrong is total BS. I will never apologize for pointing that out, whether you want to call it a "problem" or not.
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| Posted 1/13/17 10:18 AM |
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Re: New way of doing business in the US, apparently....
Posted by lululu
Posted by JennP
Posted by lululu
Posted by JennP
If you or someone you loved was going to suffer the way some people have described, I bet you would think any expression of outrage is appropriate.
It's foolish to make assumptions about people on here.
I think there are other ways to make a point that would be more appropriate.
Obviously some ways are more potent than others. But speaking out loudly and clearly on multiple platforms is the only way to affect change here.
And your comment about assumptions is big talk from someone who came on here a few weeks ago and stated that most people on here don't care about the police.
That's actually not what I said, I said I didn't think there was a point in posting that thread given the attitude of a lot of people on here.
The problem on here with you and a lot of other posters is that if I say I don't like Obamacare and I am not up in arms about what's going on it's because it doesn't affect me personally. That's not the case at all. It's just that I think that there is a better way and I am hoping that they can come up with it. I might not agree with the way it's being done, or I might. People have different views on this, not everything is black and white - even for families that will be dramatically affected. I think that the healthcare industry, in particular the health insurance industry is so corrupt even after Obamacare and I would like to see the whole thing overhauled. I actually was very pro Obama in 2007 because I really did hope for a vast improvement to the health insurance industry, but I don't think we got there.
I agree that the ACA is not working the way we all would have hoped. But I often wonder - no, I don't really wonder- I feel pretty certain, that if the Republicans had tried even a little bit to work across the aisle to create a plan, it could have been really good. As it was, they were way more interested in making sure that a democrat (and yes, I believe for some of them - A BLACK democrat) would never look good for anything he could accomplish. It got pushed through the way it was because if it didn't get pushed through, NOTHING would ever get done. Look at how many years the government talked about health care reform and nothing ever came of it. I think we can all agree that it was not working before the ACA either.
I think there are many things that don't work with the ACA. But there are many great things about it as well. I am really disgusted with the republicans saying they just want to trash it with nothing to take it's place. I keep hearing them say "we have lots of ideas, great ideas." Well SUPER. So, how about sharing with the class.
I just worry, as MANY people I know worry, that if you just trash it, many people will be completely screwed.
I am one of the lucky ones. DH has great insurance through work. But I do worry - what if he loses his job? (Sadly, this is another concern as DH works in the environmental sector and DT has shown that he pretty much does not give a crap about our environment and would like to do away with the EPA so who knows what will happen.) Both DH and I have pre-exisitng conditions. My monthly Rx cost alone is about $5000. I don't have $60000 a year for that.
I would really love for the Republicans to say ok, we don't think this works, lets fix the issues and do it for the American people instead of just trying to make the other side look bad. 
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