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Pic of Cloned Pit Bull
Bernann McKinney from the U.S. holds one of five cloned pitbull puppies during her first meeting with them at the Seoul National University Hospital for Animals in Seoul, South Korea, Tuesday, Aug. 5, 2008. McKinney has received five baby dogs copies of her beloved late pitbull "Booger"- from a South Korean biotech firm in what it calls the world's first commercial canine cloning service
Here is the full story.... the pup is adorable but this procedure is obviously surrounded by controversy:
SEOUL, South Korea - Bernann McKinney says her beloved pit bull "Booger" saved her life when another dog attacked her, then he learned to push her wheelchair while she recovered from a severe hand injury and nerve damage.
He died in 2006, but now he's back -- at least in clone form, after the birth last week of puppies replicated by a South Korean company.
On Tuesday McKinney cried joyfully at a news conference to show off the puppies, hugging them as they slept with one of their two surrogate mothers, both Korean mixed-breed dogs, in a Seoul laboratory. "It's a miracle," she told reporters.
The five clones were created by Seoul-based RNL Bio in cooperation with a team of Seoul National University scientists who in 2005 created the world's first cloned dog, a male Afghan hound named Snuppy.
The firm is headed by Lee Byeong-chun, a former colleague of disgraced scientist Hwang Woo-suk, whose purported breakthroughs in stem cell research were revealed as fake. Independent tests, however, proved the team's dog cloning was genuine.
Lee's team has since cloned some 30 dogs and five wolves, but claims Booger's clones, for which McKinney, of California, paid $50,000, are the first successful commercial cloning of a canine. McKinney, who sold her house to raise the money, got a discount because she is the first customer and helped with publicity, the firm said.
The procedure, which costs up to $150,000, is drawing criticism from animal rights groups that oppose cloning pets. They say it can lead to malformed offspring and exploitation of surrogates and egg donors, and they dispute as unfounded claims the new animal is an exact copy of the original.
"It's fraught with animal welfare concerns and it does not bring back a loved one," said Martin Stephens, vice president for animal research issues at The Humane Society of The United States, based in Washington.
"A dead animal's DNA does not guarantee the offspring will be identical to the deceased. It takes more than just genes to create an animal," said Stephens, who is a biologist. There are millions of homeless dogs and cats in the United States, he added. "We don't need new sources to compete with animal shelters and reputable breeders."
McKinney, 57, a screenwriter who taught drama at U.S. universities, contacted Lee after her dog died of cancer in April 2006. She had earlier gone to U.S.-based Genetics Savings and Clone, but it shut down in late 2006 after producing only a handful of cloned cats and failing to produce any dog clones.
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Re: Pic of Cloned Pit Bull
"A dead animal's DNA does not guarantee the offspring will be identical to the deceased. It takes more than just genes to create an animal," said Stephens, who is a biologist. There are millions of homeless dogs and cats in the United States, he added. "We don't need new sources to compete with animal shelters and reputable breeders."
Before I even read the entire article, these were my exact thoughts.
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anonttcer
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Re: Pic of Cloned Pit Bull
Posted by Kara
"A dead animal's DNA does not guarantee the offspring will be identical to the deceased. It takes more than just genes to create an animal," said Stephens, who is a biologist. There are millions of homeless dogs and cats in the United States, he added. "We don't need new sources to compete with animal shelters and reputable breeders."
Before I even read the entire article, these were my exact thoughts.
I agree- to me, it's a bit much. The personality won't be the same- and that is really what makes an animal unique and what you fall in love with. And the amount of money she spent on this... it's just a bit crazy IMO.
ETA- but I can't stop looking at the pictures of these precious babies.. everything else aside I'm in love!
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Re: Pic of Cloned Pit Bull
Posted by Kara
"A dead animal's DNA does not guarantee the offspring will be identical to the deceased. It takes more than just genes to create an animal," said Stephens, who is a biologist. There are millions of homeless dogs and cats in the United States, he added. "We don't need new sources to compete with animal shelters and reputable breeders."
Before I even read the entire article, these were my exact thoughts.
Me too. There are so many animals that need homes, why create more animals? We also don't know the effects of cloning on the offspring yet. This woman spent all this money - and the puppies may be completely different from her pet who died, plus might have all kinds of health issues.
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Re: Pic of Cloned Pit Bull
I would have totally cloned my dog Pepper if I could have - she was my BFF growing up. She died in 2000 and I still miss her!
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Re: Pic of Cloned Pit Bull
Posted by Kara
"A dead animal's DNA does not guarantee the offspring will be identical to the deceased. It takes more than just genes to create an animal," said Stephens, who is a biologist. There are millions of homeless dogs and cats in the United States, he added. "We don't need new sources to compete with animal shelters and reputable breeders."
Before I even read the entire article, these were my exact thoughts.
I agree.
I understand this woman was heartbroken after the loss of her beloved Booger but really. Do we need more pit bulls in the world?
There are SO many in shelters across the country and there are quite a few breeders out there as well.
This woman could have put her money towards the betterment of the breed or an organization like the humane society that tirelessly fights the exploitation of this breed.
I'm sorry, I LOVE pit bulls and I'm all for cloning technology to HELP HUMANS MEDICALLY but I'm very much against this.
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Re: Pic of Cloned Pit Bull
Posted by CaseyGirl
I would have totally cloned my dog Pepper if I could have - she was my BFF growing up. She died in 2000 and I still miss her!
But chances are, personality-wise, the dog would not be anything like Pepper and the dog would not BE Pepper. DNA is only one part of the equation...
I miss my dog, too, but having her clone would be having her clone... not her.
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CaseyGirl
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Re: Pic of Cloned Pit Bull
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Posted by CaseyGirl
I would have totally cloned my dog Pepper if I could have - she was my BFF growing up. She died in 2000 and I still miss her!
But chances are, personality-wise, the dog would not be anything like Pepper and the dog would not BE Pepper. DNA is only one part of the equation...
I miss my dog, too, but having her clone would be having her clone... not her.
you have a point....but it would be so nice to "see" her again..ya know?
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MrsPJB2007
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Re: Pic of Cloned Pit Bull
what bothered me about this story was this woman SOLD HER HOUSE just to pay for his procedure. she used the profits from the house to be able to get her pup cloned. i understand that the loss of a pet is devastating, but to sell your home to be able to get a "clone" that is not guaranteed to be exactly like the original??? its just a little crazy to me.
whatever happened to the whole circle of life? animals & people come into this world...they live...they die....we mourn....and we let them live on in our memories? the idea of cloning something or even someone just because you are upset and "miss them so much"--it just feels like scientists are playing God more and more.
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Re: Pic of Cloned Pit Bull
Posted by MrsPJB2007
what bothered me about this story was this woman SOLD HER HOUSE just to pay for his procedure. she used the profits from the house to be able to get her pup cloned. i understand that the loss of a pet is devastating, but to sell your home to be able to get a "clone" that is not guaranteed to be exactly like the original??? its just a little crazy to me.
whatever happened to the whole circle of life? animals & people come into this world...they live...they die....we mourn....and we let them live on in our memories? the idea of cloning something or even someone just because you are upset and "miss them so much"--it just feels like scientists are playing God more and more.
ITA! you can't clone a soul.. Boy is she going to be disappointed.
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