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Bxgell2
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Morality spinoff
Do you believe that an essential part of morality is following the law?
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Posted 3/12/08 4:26 PM  |
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KPtoys
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Re: Morality spinoff
No... I think morality is what YOU think is right and wrong not what some politician has deemed right and wrong.
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| Posted 3/12/08 4:29 PM |
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Bxgell2
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Re: Morality spinoff
Posted by KPtoys
No... I think morality is what YOU think is right and wrong not what some politician has deemed right and wrong.
But oftentimes, those two are aligned, no? I mean, there are, at least I think, certain givens of humanity - you don't steal, you don't kill, you don't abuse, you don't eat other people, etc. Those givens have become over time, an essential part of our laws.
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| Posted 3/12/08 4:32 PM |
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wannabemom
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Re: Morality spinoff
generally, yes.... however, there are always circumstances where the law directly conflicts with morality.
however, I think these situations are the exception, not the norm.
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| Posted 3/12/08 4:33 PM |
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KPtoys
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Re: Morality spinoff
Posted by Bxgell2
Posted by KPtoys
No... I think morality is what YOU think is right and wrong not what some politician has deemed right and wrong.
But oftentimes, those two are aligned, no? I mean, there are, at least I think, certain givens of humanity - you don't steal, you don't kill, you don't abuse, you don't eat other people, etc. Those givens have become over time, an essential part of our laws.
you don't eat other people 
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| Posted 3/12/08 4:34 PM |
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DirtyBlonde
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Re: Morality spinoff
Yes, but not always.
Stealing = breaking the law.
But if I have no money and I steal food so that I can feed my child - morally, I did the right thing while breaking the law.
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| Posted 3/12/08 4:34 PM |
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JessInCA
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Re: Morality spinoff
I think they're often linked, but no, I don't think following the law is an ESSENTIAL part of morality.
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| Posted 3/12/08 4:35 PM |
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dpli
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Re: Morality spinoff
Yes. I think most laws were developed from a sense of common ethics and morals. I do think there are unjust laws on the books, but I think a person can consider their own personal ethics and morals if they decide to break the law (and face the consequences for doing so).
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| Posted 3/12/08 4:35 PM |
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Bxgell2
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Re: Morality spinoff
Posted by KPtoys
Posted by Bxgell2
Posted by KPtoys
No... I think morality is what YOU think is right and wrong not what some politician has deemed right and wrong.
But oftentimes, those two are aligned, no? I mean, there are, at least I think, certain givens of humanity - you don't steal, you don't kill, you don't abuse, you don't eat other people, etc. Those givens have become over time, an essential part of our laws.
you don't eat other people
I was just throwing that one in there for good measure
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| Posted 3/12/08 4:36 PM |
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Bxgell2
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Re: Morality spinoff
Posted by DirtyBlonde
Yes, but not always.
Stealing = breaking the law.
But if I have no money and I steal food so that I can feed my child - morally, I did the right thing while breaking the law.
Mmm... good point!
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| Posted 3/12/08 4:37 PM |
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wannabemom
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Re: Morality spinoff
Posted by Bxgell2
Posted by KPtoys
No... I think morality is what YOU think is right and wrong not what some politician has deemed right and wrong.
But oftentimes, those two are aligned, no? I mean, there are, at least I think, certain givens of humanity - you don't steal, you don't kill, you don't abuse, you don't eat other people, etc. Those givens have become over time, an essential part of our laws.
to give the clicheed example from a an undergrad philosophy/ethics class:
a family member is desperately ill.... if they were to take a bottle of a very expensive medication, they would recover completely. the family cannot afford the pills, and there is no way to get them legally for free. should you steal them from the pharmacy?
after much discussion within the class, the answer approved by the class as being the most moral is 'yes'. to let a person die a preventable death is more amoral than to steal a bottle and accept the consequences.
This situaion is also often used in psych classes to discuss emotional development as it relates to ethics. children will usually say 'it is wrong to steal... ALWAYS'. Only adults would see the nuances of the argument and realize that ethics and the law occassionally will conflict.
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| Posted 3/12/08 4:38 PM |
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HoneyBadger
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Re: Morality spinoff
Posted by DirtyBlonde
Yes, but not always.
Stealing = breaking the law.
But if I have no money and I steal food so that I can feed my child - morally, I did the right thing while breaking the law.
I absolutely agree.
I think when dealing with morality there is a lot of gray areas... it's just not a black and white issue.
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| Posted 3/12/08 4:41 PM |
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dm24angel
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Re: Morality spinoff
No
Laws are created to keep the majority safe, they are also biased in part.
I dont se ethe two having anything to do with one another.
Message edited 3/12/2008 5:03:05 PM.
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| Posted 3/12/08 4:56 PM |
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nrthshgrl
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Re: Morality spinoff
Posted by dpli
Yes. I think most laws were developed from a sense of common ethics and morals. I do think there are unjust laws on the books, but I think a person can consider their own personal ethics and morals if they decide to break the law (and face the consequences for doing so).
I agree.
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| Posted 3/12/08 4:57 PM |
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donegal419
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Re: Morality spinoff
generally yes...i think most laws are based on morality.
but there are some of course that conflict morally for. abortion would be one example where for me, i would have a huge moral conflict with the law.
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| Posted 3/12/08 5:05 PM |
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