and this has nothing to do with me Chat Icon or anyone i *know*

i am watching an episode of Jon and Kate Plus 8 and Kate is in NY so Jon takes the 6 youngest on a hike through the woods near their new home.

problem #1 - several of the kids are not having fun and are actually crying. jon says " i don't care" - basically, they have this area, and even though it's cold out, he is forcing them to spend time outside.

problem #2 - Jon gets annoyed, and starts saying things to the kids like "i'm ignoring joel"
and "you're crying like a baby"

so i try REALLY hard not to be judgmental, i cannot imagine how hard it is to take care of 8 kids... but i felt so bad for them, they are only 4, they are just babies Chat Icon