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It's been a while since I've vented.....

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Bops
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It's been a while since I've vented.....

So here I am Chat Icon

Get a bill in the mail from SD's BM.....

Entered her in a beauty pageant .....
$440 entrance fee , not to mention what outfits, dresses, accessories and whatever else will go into this Chat Icon

As usual, no consulting w/ DH prior, just a receipt in the mail asking for his half...
When I looked it up online and called the # on the charge slip I was told for the formal wear, they need a male escort with them...I'm sure DH will not be asked, let alone told what date this pageant will be ( though I asked when I called)

Mark my words, this will be BM's new obsession, and though my SD is somewhat vain- she is not your typical "pageant" kid and is quite shy...Here we goChat Icon

Oh, and the prize that you get if you win this pageant w/ the $440 entrance fee....$1000Chat Icon
And then of-course you move onto the next phase of the competition which is held in Disney which I'm sure is not free of an entrance fee ...

All this while my DH is paying 100% of her braces along with all the regular "stuff" and we haven't even seen her since April Chat Icon

ETA- She still hasn't sent the bill for what "she" decided to do with her over the summer...Guess that will be a suprise as well ...

Message edited 6/15/2010 6:17:52 PM.

Posted 6/15/10 1:42 PM
 

Jenbug927
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Re: It's been a while since I've vented.....

Oh I'm so glad you started a vent b/c I just had a LOVELY feeling of anger regarding my SD BM too...

I'm sorry to hear that you get all these surprise financial obligations that probably drive you up a wall as do mine! I LOVE how the BM's feel its just assumed that there is all this money growing on trees all around our houses to support absolute ridiculous "hobbies" that will never go on to amount to any sort of a career move when reality finally sets in...

So my vent all has to do with my SD's hobby of horseback riding and how BM feels just b/c I'm not working right now due to a lay off, I'll just be around to pick up the slack or give her a "break" as she worded it on Sunday from her daughter. I'm ready to lose it today b/c I PAY enough each month to her and actually have my SD 4 days out of the week and you need a break???? And you can't pick up the slack on the days you're supposed to have your child??? Am I wrong here for wanting to say, then you don't get this week's check... I've done all your work for you, so what do you need the child support for this week?

And then she expects for DH and I to just help out with the riding costs that we NEVER agreed to move forward with. My DH and I are expecting our first child together in late Sept. all while trying to move into a new home and get our finances in order and you're just spending our money for us thinking that we have extra money just floating around. Well I'm sorry, but I do not have a money tree growing in my backyard although you may think we do; WE DON'T!! And now that I'm not working, an extra $20 is hard to come by let alone an extra $200!

So where do these women get off just thinking it's right there for them to take? Why do they feel its NEVER necessary to converse first with our DH's before agreeing to all these new bills and charges when its not even deserved of by the child? My SD is also doing very poorly in school and getting in trouble for making rude comments at her teachers, but here you go, you're more then welcome to still have everything you want! Please take it all... UGH!!!! I can't even tell you how my keyboard is probabaly screaming right now from me typing so hard b/c I'm so frustrated LOL...

Posted 6/15/10 2:52 PM
 

Bops
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Re: It's been a while since I've vented.....

My SD takes horseback riding as well Chat Icon

The biggest problem in our situation regarding extra curricular activities is that when the original order was drawn up, my DH did not have a cap put on them, which in turn leaves him as an open checkbook...And the BM in my case has zero regard for my DH and has never given him the courtsesy of consulting with him firstChat Icon

Posted 6/15/10 5:10 PM
 

Jenbug927
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Re: It's been a while since I've vented.....

Same here with my DH's agreement; and he's remained so darn civil with the XW b/c he doesn't like confrontation that he always gave in. But now that we're not exactly in the position to give in they all don't know what to do. He admits that he was the epitome of "disneyland dad" b/c of the divorce when his daughter was only 2 so he always felt guilty about really never being there full time. But now times have changed... So frustrating! Outside of the fact that there is so many other issues that play into the entire situation.

Posted 6/15/10 8:00 PM
 

mom2b
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x

Re: It's been a while since I've vented.....

I would NOT pay that bill. Entering a pageant is NOT a necessity. If she wants to enter than let her pay it! Thats insane!

Posted 6/17/10 12:13 AM
 

ricaim
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Re: It's been a while since I've vented.....

Posted by Jenbug927



So my vent all has to do with my SD's hobby of horseback riding and how BM feels just b/c I'm not working right now due to a lay off, I'll just be around to pick up the slack or give her a "break" as she worded it on Sunday from her daughter. I'm ready to lose it today b/c I PAY enough each month to her and actually have my SD 4 days out of the week and you need a break???? And you can't pick up the slack on the days you're supposed to have your child??? Am I wrong here for wanting to say, then you don't get this week's check... I've done all your work for you, so what do you need the child support for this week?

...



I got to the point where i made it clear I am there to help DH and DSS, but I am not part of a divorce stip. Therefore, I am not EXPECTED to do anything. Pick up, drop off, etc. If DH cannot be there, the stip states that BM has to be there. And when I need that to happen, it does. That is ridiculous that she expects you to be with her daughter so she can have a break. Being with her daughter is her legal obligation! You are preggers and you will need a lot of time now and in the future to take care of the little one. Set the ground rules now... BM has visitation, she takes care of it. Not you. Good luck!!!

Posted 6/17/10 6:12 AM
 

Bops
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Re: It's been a while since I've vented.....

Posted by mom2b

I would NOT pay that bill. Entering a pageant is NOT a necessity. If she wants to enter than let her pay it! Thats insane!




If it were strictly up to me, I would probably fight it...DH "says" he is going to tell her that we cannot afford to do these things, but not sure if that will happen or not...

It's a double edge sword....If my DH pays this once, BM will take it and run
( she has been known to get obsessive with things ie: ice-skating competions etc..) there will be no end !

If he refuses to pay, BM will in a round-a-bout way, tell my SD that her father doesn't "care" etc... and make him out to be a horrible person...

If we take her to court, or let her take us- If she does lose ( which I'm fairly certain the judge would not make my DH pay this) , BM will find 7 million other very costly activities that my DH is responsible for, just to be a witch, even if it costs her a small fortune herself...This is her way...So I see my DH's point....

And in the interim, again, my DH is made out to look like the bad dad, even though that was/is never the reason...We are, like everyone else- trying to get by ...And would tell our bio-children the same thing...

AND, how are we supposed to pay half her college (should she decide to go) , if all our spare funds are going towards COUNTLESS frivilous things ???

Message edited 6/17/2010 8:19:28 AM.

Posted 6/17/10 8:18 AM
 

Jenbug927
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Member since 3/10

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Jennifer

Re: It's been a while since I've vented.....

Posted by ricaim

Posted by Jenbug927



So my vent all has to do with my SD's hobby of horseback riding and how BM feels just b/c I'm not working right now due to a lay off, I'll just be around to pick up the slack or give her a "break" as she worded it on Sunday from her daughter. I'm ready to lose it today b/c I PAY enough each month to her and actually have my SD 4 days out of the week and you need a break???? And you can't pick up the slack on the days you're supposed to have your child??? Am I wrong here for wanting to say, then you don't get this week's check... I've done all your work for you, so what do you need the child support for this week?

...



I got to the point where i made it clear I am there to help DH and DSS, but I am not part of a divorce stip. Therefore, I am not EXPECTED to do anything. Pick up, drop off, etc. If DH cannot be there, the stip states that BM has to be there. And when I need that to happen, it does. That is ridiculous that she expects you to be with her daughter so she can have a break. Being with her daughter is her legal obligation! You are preggers and you will need a lot of time now and in the future to take care of the little one. Set the ground rules now... BM has visitation, she takes care of it. Not you. Good luck!!!



I am very much in aggreance with you; thank you very much! I am just shocked that a mother would say "I need a break." If you weren't divorced, a break wouldn't be an option, so what would you do then? You wouldn't have the ability to call my DH and ask for him to take their daughter off her hands so what would she do? There are so many ways its apparent that she doesn't want to deal with her daughter (i.e. letting her sleep out at friends houses the 2 nights she actually has her and then letting her stay at the friends houses all day after the sleepover; allowing her to take part in ridiculous extracurricular activities just to have her out of the house, etc.). So I end up feeling bad b/c in a way my SD is then neglected. But I do have to say that I am so excited for LO to arrive so I can just be so overly focused on him, knowing my priorities will be completely flipped around and just be absorbed in having my own with no mind to deal with the BM and just push it aside b/c I have so many more important things to deal with now...

Posted 6/17/10 8:36 AM
 

MrsKS
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Re: It's been a while since I've vented.....

wow!
I feel for you guys!!

Can you just say "No. we can't afford that right now"..... and then she comes up with another thing, use the same answer "no. we can't afford that right now". Tell her "if you can afford this then by all means go for it, but we cannot at this time. Sorry."

Even if she says nasty things about the BF to the kid.... in time the kid will see that the father does love them.... love is not shown through materialistic things... it's the fact that the father is still there for them and still takes care of them, aside from making sure all their NEEDS are met. Plus... eventually they will see the only one speaking negatively is the BM and thus she's the one with the problem.

Posted 6/17/10 4:31 PM
 

Bops
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Re: It's been a while since I've vented.....

Posted by MrsKS

wow!
I feel for you guys!!

Can you just say "No. we can't afford that right now"..... and then she comes up with another thing, use the same answer "no. we can't afford that right now". Tell her "if you can afford this then by all means go for it, but we cannot at this time. Sorry."

Even if she says nasty things about the BF to the kid.... in time the kid will see that the father does love them.... love is not shown through materialistic things... it's the fact that the father is still there for them and still takes care of them, aside from making sure all their NEEDS are met. Plus... eventually they will see the only one speaking negatively is the BM and thus she's the one with the problem.




In "theory" that would be ideal....

However, though my DH has joint custody of my SD, she lives w/ the BM , so in essence- she makes the every day decisions and because of my DH's agreement, he is responsible for 50% of extracurricular activities ...So while she "should" consult with him and DH "should" have the opportunity to give his input and decide whether he can afford it, he cannot...

The magistrate told DH that because he did not have a cap put on this, the order would stay ( because he should have thought of this from the beginning Chat Icon )

With all that said, I'm fairly certain that pageants are not considered "extracurricular activities", but my DH loses either way because of what she will do if he fights her Chat Icon

Posted 6/17/10 7:29 PM
 

Lucky2008
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Chris

Re: It's been a while since I've vented.....

oh boy, I feel for you ladies. I know any day now we are going to get a huge bill for SD's "camp" or whatever summer activity she wants. Last summer we had to borrow the money for it. You feel like you can never get ahead it is always something that pops up. And Bops, a beauty pageant? that is insane, if your DH wasn't part of the decision making to enter her in one, BM should pay for it...I know easier said than done, but so frustrating for you.

Posted 6/18/10 1:17 PM
 

MrsKS
Thank You St. Gerard.....

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Kerri

Re: It's been a while since I've vented.....

Posted by Bops

Posted by MrsKS

wow!
I feel for you guys!!

Can you just say "No. we can't afford that right now"..... and then she comes up with another thing, use the same answer "no. we can't afford that right now". Tell her "if you can afford this then by all means go for it, but we cannot at this time. Sorry."

Even if she says nasty things about the BF to the kid.... in time the kid will see that the father does love them.... love is not shown through materialistic things... it's the fact that the father is still there for them and still takes care of them, aside from making sure all their NEEDS are met. Plus... eventually they will see the only one speaking negatively is the BM and thus she's the one with the problem.




In "theory" that would be ideal....

However, though my DH has joint custody of my SD, she lives w/ the BM , so in essence- she makes the every day decisions and because of my DH's agreement, he is responsible for 50% of extracurricular activities ...So while she "should" consult with him and DH "should" have the opportunity to give his input and decide whether he can afford it, he cannot...

The magistrate told DH that because he did not have a cap put on this, the order would stay ( because he should have thought of this from the beginning Chat Icon )

With all that said, I'm fairly certain that pageants are not considered "extracurricular activities", but my DH loses either way because of what she will do if he fights her Chat Icon



that's ridiculous! i would totally understand your husband not knowing to put a cap on it... but what about the lawyers???

sorry you have to deal with this. i think it's nuts.

Posted 6/28/10 8:39 PM
 

Bops
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Re: It's been a while since I've vented.....

Posted by MrsKS

Posted by Bops

Posted by MrsKS

wow!
I feel for you guys!!

Can you just say "No. we can't afford that right now"..... and then she comes up with another thing, use the same answer "no. we can't afford that right now". Tell her "if you can afford this then by all means go for it, but we cannot at this time. Sorry."

Even if she says nasty things about the BF to the kid.... in time the kid will see that the father does love them.... love is not shown through materialistic things... it's the fact that the father is still there for them and still takes care of them, aside from making sure all their NEEDS are met. Plus... eventually they will see the only one speaking negatively is the BM and thus she's the one with the problem.




In "theory" that would be ideal....

However, though my DH has joint custody of my SD, she lives w/ the BM , so in essence- she makes the every day decisions and because of my DH's agreement, he is responsible for 50% of extracurricular activities ...So while she "should" consult with him and DH "should" have the opportunity to give his input and decide whether he can afford it, he cannot...

The magistrate told DH that because he did not have a cap put on this, the order would stay ( because he should have thought of this from the beginning Chat Icon )

With all that said, I'm fairly certain that pageants are not considered "extracurricular activities", but my DH loses either way because of what she will do if he fights her Chat Icon



that's ridiculous! i would totally understand your husband not knowing to put a cap on it... but what about the lawyers???

sorry you have to deal with this. i think it's nuts.



MY DH let the BM write up the agreement ( it was a carbon copy of her older DD's agreement with THAT biological father Chat Icon )...My DH hired an attorney to look it over and he said "looks fair" ...DH didn't know any better at the timeChat Icon

They weren't married so this was the only ppwk that was done...She was a baby, so I guess he wasnt looking that far ahead or thinking she would take such advantage ....Unfortunatetly he and I were only dating at the time and I didnt feel it was my place to interject, though now I really wish I had Chat Icon

Posted 6/28/10 10:15 PM
 

Mom2010
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Eclaire Lover

Re: It's been a while since I've vented.....

Jesus, and I thought the 1/2 of $28.00 a MONTH was asking too much from the BF (for twirling classes) Chat Icon I can't believe how outrageous these BM's are! I never enroll/engage my DC in ANYTHING without consulting the BF. 1/2 the time, if I do let's say a 1x event (like a bowling tournament, etc.), I don't even ask for reimbursement. My idea, my $$$. I can't believe how inconsiderate some people really are!

Posted 6/30/10 9:13 AM
 

Bops
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Re: It's been a while since I've vented.....

Posted by Mom2010

Jesus, and I thought the 1/2 of $28.00 a MONTH was asking too much from the BF (for twirling classes) Chat Icon I can't believe how outrageous these BM's are! I never enroll/engage my DC in ANYTHING without consulting the BF. 1/2 the time, if I do let's say a 1x event (like a bowling tournament, etc.), I don't even ask for reimbursement. My idea, my $$$. I can't believe how inconsiderate some people really are!



Wish you were my SD's BM Chat Icon

Posted 6/30/10 4:37 PM
 
 

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