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interesting article....

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marriedinportjeff
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interesting article....

unnecessary surgery

hi all moms-to-be Chat Icon

I'm totally not pregnant, but I just read this article.... it is discussing the most commonly performed unnecessary surgery. Of course, both #1 and #2 are for women Chat Icon . #2 is actually an episiotomy..... I just thought I might bring this up to all of you, so you can discuss this with your midwives and physicians, and come to a decision before they pop one on you!

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Posted 7/27/07 10:17 PM
 
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Re: interesting article....

Posted by marriedinportjeff

unnecessary surgery

hi all moms-to-be Chat Icon

I'm totally not pregnant, but I just read this article.... it is discussing the most commonly performed unnecessary surgery. Of course, both #1 and #2 are for women Chat Icon . #2 is actually an episiotomy..... I just thought I might bring this up to all of you, so you can discuss this with your midwives and physicians, and come to a decision before they pop one on you!

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I don't mean to be rude, but sometimes there isn't really a choice. I had a second degree tear b/c my doctor didn't have a chance to give me an episiotomy.

I don't really think that doctors do them for fun, if they feel it is necessary to "pop one on you" during heavy labor there is definately going to be a reason for it.

Posted 7/27/07 10:47 PM
 

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Re: interesting article....

Posted by KateDevine

Posted by marriedinportjeff

unnecessary surgery

hi all moms-to-be Chat Icon

I'm totally not pregnant, but I just read this article.... it is discussing the most commonly performed unnecessary surgery. Of course, both #1 and #2 are for women Chat Icon . #2 is actually an episiotomy..... I just thought I might bring this up to all of you, so you can discuss this with your midwives and physicians, and come to a decision before they pop one on you!

Chat Icon



Message edited 7/27/2007 11:39:19 PM.

Posted 7/27/07 11:38 PM
 

marriedinportjeff
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Re: interesting article....

Posted by KateDevine

Posted by marriedinportjeff

unnecessary surgery

hi all moms-to-be Chat Icon

I'm totally not pregnant, but I just read this article.... it is discussing the most commonly performed unnecessary surgery. Of course, both #1 and #2 are for women Chat Icon . #2 is actually an episiotomy..... I just thought I might bring this up to all of you, so you can discuss this with your midwives and physicians, and come to a decision before they pop one on you!

Chat Icon



I don't mean to be rude, but sometimes there isn't really a choice. I had a second degree tear b/c my doctor didn't have a chance to give me an episiotomy.

I don't really think that doctors do them for fun, if they feel it is necessary to "pop one on you" during heavy labor there is definately going to be a reason for it.



I totally understand.... there are times it is necessary, and obviously, your case was one of them... but according to this article, physicians admit that it is performed merely as a precaution, not only when it is necessary. That is the situation which I just wanted to bring to attention....

These days, it is common for physicians to perform some surgeries merely as a precaution when there is a chance a situation could arise. This stems from the attitude that doing nothing would be more likely to lose in a malpractice case than doing too much.

It is just something to think about and discuss ahead of time..... no harm in that.... This thread's intent is merely to help.......

Posted 7/28/07 12:17 AM
 

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Re: interesting article....

I wouldn't want an episiotomy. And some doctors do it just because IMO. I'd rather tear.

Posted 7/28/07 12:31 AM
 

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Re: interesting article....

Posted by marriedinportjeff

Posted by KateDevine

Posted by marriedinportjeff

unnecessary surgery

hi all moms-to-be Chat Icon

I'm totally not pregnant, but I just read this article.... it is discussing the most commonly performed unnecessary surgery. Of course, both #1 and #2 are for women Chat Icon . #2 is actually an episiotomy..... I just thought I might bring this up to all of you, so you can discuss this with your midwives and physicians, and come to a decision before they pop one on you!

Chat Icon



I don't mean to be rude, but sometimes there isn't really a choice. I had a second degree tear b/c my doctor didn't have a chance to give me an episiotomy.

I don't really think that doctors do them for fun, if they feel it is necessary to "pop one on you" during heavy labor there is definately going to be a reason for it.



I totally understand.... there are times it is necessary, and obviously, your case was one of them... but according to this article, physicians admit that it is performed merely as a precaution, not only when it is necessary. That is the situation which I just wanted to bring to attention....

These days, it is common for physicians to perform some surgeries merely as a precaution when there is a chance a situation could arise. This stems from the attitude that doing nothing would be more likely to lose in a malpractice case than doing too much.

It is just something to think about and discuss ahead of time..... no harm in that.... This thread's intent is merely to help.......



Listen, I worked in med mal law for 3 years, when it comes to child birth an OB is going to do whatever they feel is best to get the kid out of there in a timely and safe manner. I have seen SO many cases that you don't know where miliseconds counted and doctors waited too long and you end up with a truly tragic experience. And you know what? I do not blame them. If I were an OB, I would do the same thing. AND I wouldn't be thinking about my insurance premieum going up, I'd be thinking of the life of teh child and the mother who are my patients.

And honestly? "Pop on on you" is really not an appropriate way to describe what you are talking about.

Posted 7/28/07 10:24 AM
 

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Re: interesting article....

This article was interesting..However, I had low back surgery and I am now fused in my lower spine. Had I not done this and gone to the right surgeon for the job, I wouldn't be walking today so I am 110% glad that I did it. Chat Icon

Posted 7/28/07 10:40 AM
 

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Re: interesting article....

definitely an interesting article, thanks for sharing it. as a doctor, though, i feel compelled to present the other side-

anatomically, the vaginal area is very complicated. many different layers of different types of tissue. if all that tissue tears in a disorganized way (like a natural tear would be), it is EXTREMELY difficult to stitch it back up, and chances are (depending on the severity of the tear) that you won't exactly end up with the same vaginal area you started with.

episiotomies are done to prevent these complications. if you make a neat incision, it's that much easier to sew it up again.

now, if you got an episiotomy and it turns out you wouldn't have teared, then you've had an "unnecessary" procedure... but it's very hard to predict who will and who won't tear.

when the time comes, i personally will leave the decision up to my doctor.

Posted 7/28/07 11:10 AM
 

marriedinportjeff
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Re: interesting article....

Posted by KateDevine

Listen, I worked in med mal law for 3 years, when it comes to child birth an OB is going to do whatever they feel is best to get the kid out of there in a timely and safe manner. I have seen SO many cases that you don't know where miliseconds counted and doctors waited too long and you end up with a truly tragic experience. And you know what? I do not blame them. If I were an OB, I would do the same thing. AND I wouldn't be thinking about my insurance premieum going up, I'd be thinking of the life of teh child and the mother who are my patients.

And honestly? "Pop on on you" is really not an appropriate way to describe what you are talking about.



I am also not ignorant of the medical field in general, as I am a medical researcher. I also have numerous friends and acquintences who are physicians, RN's, and nurse practitioners, and lets just say I hear a lot of 'stuff' secondhand.

I'm not going to begin to anguish over my verbage on a chat site out of fear that someone may dislike my exact phrasiology. It's obvious from my tone of my 2 posts that I had no intention to say anything offensive.... I merely offered rather cursory information for people to think about well in advance, so they may make informed decisions if they so wish.

I have learned my lesson from the minor verbal lashing I received from you, and will not volunteer any more scientific information, even if I could otherwise provide insight on certain threads.... I love discussing topics and always respect differing opinions, but frankly, I feel like I'm being argued with... and it's frankly not worth it.
(to the other posters, I'm sorry, and I appreciate your input and opinions.... this post has nothing to do with you...)

Message edited 7/28/2007 10:49:16 PM.

Posted 7/28/07 9:34 PM
 
 

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