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Early Intervention question / your "record"

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newlywedT
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Early Intervention question / your "record"

When I was in school I always heard things like "Behave or you'll get in trouble and it will GO ON YOUR RECORD!"
I know in adults if you have something like a heart condition, it can follow you and affect your insurance rates.
If you have mental problems, I think it can also follow you and make you ineligible for things.

Does EI or CPSE "follow you" also?

DS is 2.5 and has qualified for EI for Speech, PT, OT, SI (basically the whole gamut) basically due to his timidness. When he was evaluated he never engaged the evaluators and hid behind me the whole time. (90 minute sessions) therefore he was marked as delayed in all categories.

He has now had 3 sessions in SI, 3 in speech, 2 in PT and he did nothing. He hid under the table the whole time and would not engage with them.

When its just the family, he is fine - he talks and acts silly/jokes - well as much as a 2.5 year old can do. But when non-family are around, he shuts down (even in the elevator).

We are thinking of getting sessions in a EI center and then signing up with CPSE to continue next year after he is 3....BUT I'm a bit paranoid and wonder if there are any drawbacks to this.

Will it go on some kind of record and follow him so that he will have a "label" for the rest of his life?

If he is in school and gets in an argument with another kid, will the teachers automatically think "Well, according to his file he has emotional issues so it must be his fault"

I know the counter argument is - "If he needs help, he should get it, even if a label is attached to him"

Thanks

Message edited 8/6/2018 4:17:10 PM.

Posted 8/6/18 4:14 PM
 
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muffaboo
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Re: Early Intervention question / your "record"

No, it is not known which students have received EI or CPSE services, unless of course the services carry over to school age. Their preschool records are sealed and you would have to give permission for teachers to view them. However, I do think it is important to have an open line of communication with the school/your child's teacher when your child is in school if there are still concerns. But you have time for this...a lot can change in 2.5 years!

Posted 8/6/18 5:34 PM
 

MrsT809
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From what I recall and understood, EI will get your insurance info bc they will seek reimbursement although it doesn't affect anything in terms of costs to you. I don't see how it would affect anything in their health records or anything but your doctor will also be aware bc you need a prescription (I assumeyou know this since you already started). CPSE will also need a prescription from your doctor but I don't think anything goes to your insurance. Neither will go in their school file. Dd had both EI and CPSE services but I was the one to inform her kindergarten teacher. Even when she was getting preschool services her prek teacher didn't know until I told her and that was in the elementary school.

Posted 8/6/18 7:56 PM
 

babyfever24
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NO, if you choose to go into CPSE and have your child evaluated then they will have an IEP.....also if you decide to have no additional evaluations done for CSE (kindergarten) nothing will follow your child.....im in the field and have parents ask this all the time!

Posted 8/6/18 8:31 PM
 

pumpkinmom
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I have no experience with services, but the application for our Catholic school asked if my child had ever been evaluated for services or received services. And then at the bottom of that section, it said something about withholding information being grounds for expulsion.

Posted 8/6/18 8:56 PM
 

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When they go from EI to CPSE if they do not need any more services the case is closed ad nothing follows. In CPSE, the child is labeled as a preschooler with a disability, not one of the 13 classifications for CSE. This is to prevent a child being "labeled". I used to do EI and CPSE and now I teach on the high school level. While your "records" from K may carry along with you, it is rare that teachers ever, especially in the upper grades, ever find out that a child received special education services unless they were declassified with supports.

Posted 8/7/18 6:31 AM
 

ml110
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i'm in NJ... i'm a speech therapist who did EI for a little while. the way it works here is that all of the EI kids are reevaluated before they go into kindergarten, to see if any services need to continue. If they do, then obviously their K teacher would be aware of the services or supports they should get ( an IEP). But if they are declassified and don't need anymore services, then nothing would "follow" them.... but if something comes up in the classroom, it would be good to share with the teacher that he got services in preschool, etc....

Posted 8/7/18 7:46 AM
 

EricaAlt
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Posted by ml110

i'm in NJ... i'm a speech therapist who did EI for a little while. the way it works here is that all of the EI kids are reevaluated before they go into kindergarten, to see if any services need to continue. If they do, then obviously their K teacher would be aware of the services or supports they should get ( an IEP). But if they are declassified and don't need anymore services, then nothing would "follow" them.... but if something comes up in the classroom, it would be good to share with the teacher that he got services in preschool, etc....



This exactly. I'm in NJ as well. My son has an IEP. My younger son does not. TBH my older son with the IEP benefits more from having it. LOL
My older son had EI then was evaluated before turning 3 to see if he needs an IEP and go into preschool in the special needs class. From there he gets evaluated every year around April to see if he still needs to get the same services. He's going into 4th grade in Sept. He went from Special Ed preschool to mainstream K with a co-teacher plus PT, OT and Speech. Each year getting evaluated he's done much better. He no longer gets PT, Speech or OT, but in a co-teaching class. I wouldn't call him "labeled" by any means. Yes it's in his record that he has an IEP, but I don't feel it effects anything else. If that makes any sense.
Honestly, bc of his IEP he's doing amazing and super smart. Love the extra conferences we get with the teachers and love the fact that he gets two teachers.

Posted 8/7/18 9:26 AM
 

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It's all confidential. For example, my son will attend a half day special ed Pre-K class in the morning this upcoming school year. In the PM he will go to the regular Pre-K class. The PM teacher will not know that he is coming from the special Ed class unless I tell her and she will not have access to his IEP unless I give her a copy. I plan on giving her a copy so she can help to best address my son's needs. But that's all up to me. As you said, he needs the help now so it's good. I doubt my son will qualify for services in Kindergarten but we will see.

Posted 8/7/18 1:07 PM
 

newlywedT
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Early Intervention question / your

muffaboo,
>>
No, it is not known which students have received EI or CPSE services, unless of course the services carry over to school age
>>

school age is...4? (pre-k) or 5? (kindergarten)


babyfever24
>>if you choose to go into CPSE and have your child evaluated then they will have an IEP

So the IEP will follow the child?


Jacksmommy
>>
In CPSE, the child is labeled as a preschooler with a disability, not one of the 13 classifications for CSE. This is to prevent a child being "labeled".
>>

But the child will be labeled as having a "disability" though, right?


EricaAlt and SLPRunner,
Thanks for the personal example.

I'm a bit concerned like Steve Martin in this clip, kids are cruel and sometimes look for any excuse to make fun of others.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hwDeD8hhn8

Posted 8/7/18 4:49 PM
 

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You can’t base this decision on what other people might possibly think of your child in the future. If he needs services they will only benefit him in the long run.

Posted 8/8/18 7:46 AM
 

MrsT809
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He's 2.5. The point of early intervention and cpse is that if potential issues are addressed early enough, it makes it much easier to help the child improve. It's entirely possible that he may not even need services by the time he is school age (which is kindergarten), especially if you think his timidness was part of the problem. If he has an iep in preschool, it does not follow him to kindergarten unless he is approved for a new iep. If he does need an iep in kindergarten or beyond, it is still not something that is broadcast to all of the students. Many students are pulled out for speech or OT but their classmates do not equate that to the child having a disability at that age. By the time they are old enough to understand any of that, teachers can be a lot more discreet about pulling friends out for services. Imo, take the help and see how he progresses. If he continues to need help in the future, he is much better off getting it than declining it for the sake of saving face.

Posted 8/8/18 9:07 AM
 

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Re: Early Intervention question / your "record"

Posted by Katareen

You can’t base this decision on what other people might possibly think of your child in the future. If he needs services they will only benefit him in the long run.



This! I don't think kids are as "mean" as everyone thinks about this stuff. A lot of kids receive services these days. My older daughter in 4th grade asks why her best friends gets to go to speech and OT and she doesn't! lol

also - I was way more concerned about kids being mean about my younger dd's actual speech (not being able to understand some of her words) then the fact that she was getting services

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Posted 8/8/18 9:25 AM
 

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You can’t base this decision on what other people might possibly think of your child in the future. If he needs services they will only benefit him in the long run.



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Posted 8/8/18 9:47 AM
 

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Re: Early Intervention question / your "record"

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You can’t base this decision on what other people might possibly think of your child in the future. If he needs services they will only benefit him in the long run.



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ITA! I have so many students who are not properly classified because their parents don’t want their child to be labeled. This is a huge disservice to the child. Plus, fearing a label is the problem. You are perpetuating the myth that getting proper services is a negative.

I will also note I teach at the HS and I have never heard of a kid getting made fun of for having an IEP. Most kids are pretty sensitive to learning disabilities. At least that’s what I found in my cotaught sections.

Posted 8/8/18 10:34 AM
 

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ITA! I have so many students who are not properly classified because their parents don’t want their child to be labeled. This is a huge disservice to the child. Plus, fearing a label is the problem. You are perpetuating the myth that getting proper services is a negative.

I will also note I teach at the HS and I have never heard of a kid getting made fun of for having an IEP. Most kids are pretty sensitive to learning disabilities. At least that’s what I found in my cotaught sections.




I agree with all of this. As an educator and as a parent of a child with special needs.

Also, I am in no way qualified to diagnose your child, but has anyone brought up selective mutism?

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Posted 8/8/18 11:42 AM
 

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My son is almost 7 and has been receiving services since he was 11 months old. First at home, then at 2 years started in preschool and moved into regular school. No one knows what services he receives from year to year. I chose an open road of communication, which at times I regret. But never have I had my son be picked on for his delays. He is in a self contained class and all the kids have IEP's. He did do an gen ed class for 1 subject but that did not work because of his issues. But the kids in the class loved him and no one knew he was in a self contained class the rest of the day.

Posted 8/8/18 3:29 PM
 
 

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