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lcherian
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Congressional hearings on autism epidemic
In case you did not know, there was a congressional hearing on November 29th into the federal response to rising rates of autism. Here are some clips from that hearing. Personally, I am shocked by most of the responses given by the CDC doctors.
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Re: Congressional hearings on autism epidemic
I am sick after watching those videos. 1 in 55 boys??? Also, they claim Africa had no cases of autism until we introduced vaccines to their children. I really don't know what I am going to do about vaccinating my next DC, especially if I have a boy . . . 
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| Posted 12/1/12 9:10 AM |
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sourpatchkids
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Re: Congressional hearings on autism epidemic
I am always hesitant to respond to these posts, as people have such strong feelings about this topic and it often gets heated. I am NOT anti-vaccine...my DD is on schedule with all of hers (we spaced them out for her though). However, having autism in my family, I am constantly worried about this topic. Thank you to the OP for posting!
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| Posted 12/1/12 9:49 AM |
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Congressional hearings on autism epidemic
So much to think about on this topic.
There's little doubt in my mind that autism may have some link to vaccines and that possibly, some kids are sensitive to the vaccines or have some predisposition that gets set off by vaccines, but it's a gamble because it is important to be vaccinated.
Like we see that some people can't tolerate certain medications, right? I kind of align it with that thinking. Or how everything we put into our bodies can change how we feel or act. For example, I think too many processed foods can lead to depression in some people...what we put into our bodies has an effect on the chemistry that exists.
It doesn't make much sense to me to pump a little child's body with vaccines - it makes me uncomfortable in a logical sense.
However, that being said, I do vaccinate ... And cross my fingers each time. I trust my doctor, but I also trust my instincts, I guess.
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| Posted 12/1/12 10:49 AM |
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They cluster the vaccines so they make sure all children get them. Not everyone goes to the doctor regularly.
That's the reason? That's the medical reason that they give them so young???????? Why they give so many in such a short period of time. Really? WOW!
Thanks for posting this! I only got through the first video so far.
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| Posted 12/1/12 11:54 AM |
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Melmel821
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Re: Congressional hearings on autism epidemic
I'm so nervous to bring DD to her 2 month appt. because of the vaccines. Can anyone FM any good articles on this topic I would appreciate it. I'm very interested in spreading out the vaccine schedule.
ETA: It scares me how unprepared the CDC doctors are for a congressional hearing. They have little information, nothing to back up that information and we trust them with our children's health?
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| Posted 12/1/12 1:24 PM |
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SummerMom
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Re: Congressional hearings on autism epidemic
I'm not anti-vaccine at all...
Well, actually, I *wasn't* until I saw these videos. If this Dr. Boyle is the best the CDC has to offer on this topic, then it's kind of freaking me out. She can't point to any independent studies comparing vaccinated and non-vaccinated kids? Kids today only get so many vaccinations at once because in poor neighborhoods mothers bring their kids to the doctors infrequently? (so they give all babies several potentially unnecessary vaccinations at once in case they never see them again) Am I hearing this right?
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| Posted 12/1/12 1:51 PM |
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Melmel821
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Re: Congressional hearings on autism epidemic
Posted by SummerMom
I'm not anti-vaccine at all...
Well, actually, I *wasn't* until I saw these videos. If this Dr. Boyle is the best the CDC has to offer on this topic, then it's kind of freaking me out. She can't point to any independent studies comparing vaccinated and non-vaccinated kids? Kids today only get so many vaccinations at once because in poor neighborhoods mothers bring their kids to the doctors infrequently? (so they give all babies several potentially unnecessary vaccinations at once in case they never see them again) Am I hearing this right?
I couldn't believe that reasoning for the current schedule either! That alone has made me want to look into the vaccine issue more. I really think I'm going ask about a delayed schedule.
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| Posted 12/1/12 2:00 PM |
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Congressional hearings on autism epidemic
These videos are incredibly shocking and frightening. Too many vaccines at one time are given to babies/children, period. The whole schedule of vax needs to be totally re-worked. What a ridiculous response, because mothers can't make it to the dr, that's why our kids immune systems are being overwhelmed?!? I'm not totally anti-vax, I delay and space vaccines, but these videos really anger me.
What confuses me is there were many more vaccines in the 80s/90s that contained thimerosal than today. The rates are so much higher now than then. I guess this is where the "more awareness" factor comes into play.
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| Posted 12/1/12 2:29 PM |
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KarenK122
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Re: Congressional hearings on autism epidemic
Posted by EatingMyVeggies
So much to think about on this topic.
There's little doubt in my mind that autism may have some link to vaccines and that possibly, some kids are sensitive to the vaccines or have some predisposition that gets set off by vaccines, but it's a gamble because it is important to be vaccinated.
Like we see that some people can't tolerate certain medications, right? I kind of align it with that thinking. Or how everything we put into our bodies can change how we feel or act. For example, I think too many processed foods can lead to depression in some people...what we put into our bodies has an effect on the chemistry that exists.
This is what I believe. I think that the vaccines may trigger a latent issue in children that may arise as they get older but that is not the only reason for a child to be autistic.
My DD was not born in this country, was never vaccinated and I knew from the moment she came home at 10 months old she was autistic. I also have a friend who's son is autistic, and her one year old daughter was just diagnosed as well. She was delaying vaccinations on her daughter, so they believe it was genetic. I also have friends that they say their child was developed normally and after a series of shots around 2.5/3 started regressing.
I also believe in today's world we are more aware of special needs and are more proactive in getting our children services, hence the number increasing. Growing up we always had some kids in class that had behavioral issues, stims, were a little quirky or extremely shy. Today those kids probably would have been given a diagnosis.
To vaccinate or to delay vaccinations is a personal decision and we all need to be respectful of that. In conjunction with trying to learn what people think "cause" autism, I'd like to focus on is how to "cure" this or work on getting treatments that help our kids without the constant fighting with school districts and insurances.
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| Posted 12/1/12 5:28 PM |
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kahlua716
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Re: Congressional hearings on autism epidemic
Posted by KarenK122
Posted by EatingMyVeggies
So much to think about on this topic.
There's little doubt in my mind that autism may have some link to vaccines and that possibly, some kids are sensitive to the vaccines or have some predisposition that gets set off by vaccines, but it's a gamble because it is important to be vaccinated.
Like we see that some people can't tolerate certain medications, right? I kind of align it with that thinking. Or how everything we put into our bodies can change how we feel or act. For example, I think too many processed foods can lead to depression in some people...what we put into our bodies has an effect on the chemistry that exists.
This is what I believe. I think that the vaccines may trigger a latent issue in children that may arise as they get older but that is not the only reason for a child to be autistic.
My DD was not born in this country, was never vaccinated and I knew from the moment she came home at 10 months old she was autistic. I also have a friend who's son is autistic, and her one year old daughter was just diagnosed as well. She was delaying vaccinations on her daughter, so they believe it was genetic. I also have friends that they say their child was developed normally and after a series of shots around 2.5/3 started regressing.
I also believe in today's world we are more aware of special needs and are more proactive in getting our children services, hence the number increasing. Growing up we always had some kids in class that had behavioral issues, stims, were a little quirky or extremely shy. Today those kids probably would have been given a diagnosis.
To vaccinate or to delay vaccinations is a personal decision and we all need to be respectful of that. In conjunction with trying to learn what people think "cause" autism, I'd like to focus on is how to "cure" this or work on getting treatments that help our kids without the constant fighting with school districts and insurances.
Very well said!
My best friend has 5 typically developing children (so far- the youngest 2 are 18 months) and 1 with Autism. They were all vaccinated the same way and have the same parents.
You just can't blame it ONLY on vaccines.
It's so scary.
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| Posted 12/1/12 5:59 PM |
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lcherian
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Re: Congressional hearings on autism epidemic
Posted by SummerMom
I'm not anti-vaccine at all...
Well, actually, I *wasn't* until I saw these videos. If this Dr. Boyle is the best the CDC has to offer on this topic, then it's kind of freaking me out. She can't point to any independent studies comparing vaccinated and non-vaccinated kids? Kids today only get so many vaccinations at once because in poor neighborhoods mothers bring their kids to the doctors infrequently? (so they give all babies several potentially unnecessary vaccinations at once in case they never see them again) Am I hearing this right?
Yes you heard that right! I do believe that autism is caused by both genetics and environment. You cannot attribute a 1000% increase in autism based upon genetics and better diagnosis alone. While I do believe vaccinations do cause autism in some cases, I believe there are other causes as well such as diet of the mother or father that have caused genetic mutations (ie. Consumption of foods with pesticides and GMOs), toxic exposure, premature birth, etc.
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luckyinlove
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Re: Congressional hearings on autism epidemic
I know doctors keep saying that vaccines are not the culprit, but I can't get it out of my head and delay and space out my kids vaccines as mush as i can. It sickens me how many viruses they want to pump inot my babies at one time. During one visit, they wanted my DD to get pentacil - 4 or 5 viruses, prevnar - 1, and one other double shot So they wanted 7 or 8 viruses in her body at one time! I freaked and only let them give the pentacil, which is bad enough. I also won't do the flu shots or the chicken pox shots - I personally want my kids to get the chicken pox. I would much rather them get the chicken pox as children, then get shingles as adults, and God forbid even when they get pregnant some day.
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I agree with all above, it is very scary. I had read and heard that before regarding the rationale for giving so many shots at once - my ped himself actually told me that was really the only reason they give newborns HEP B in the hospital (b/c they don't see some parents ever again) - it was almost an experiment to see if they could combat it amongst minority populations. This is why I have no issues with questioning the schedule and researching my decisions and discussing them with my Dr. before following the CDC recc schedule. It's also why I don't understand when people say they vaccinate on the schedule because they "trust their ped." Even the peds don't necessarily agree the schedule is necessary and if you discuss it with them they are open to modifications. On a side note, I think Autism is now even listed as a possible adverse effect of the the DTAP shot in the product insert from the company.
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| Posted 12/2/12 9:32 AM |
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BeachGrl
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Re: Congressional hearings on autism epidemic
Posted by luckyinlove
I also won't do the flu shots or the chicken pox shots - I personally want my kids to get the chicken pox. I would much rather them get the chicken pox as children, then get shingles as adults, and God forbid even when they get pregnant some day.
I'm confused, I thought that Shingles is caused by previously having the chicken pox illness. I have heard you cannot get Shingles unless you've had chicken pox 
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| Posted 12/2/12 10:58 AM |
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Re: Congressional hearings on autism epidemic
I have one child on the spectrum. One not on the spectrum. Def. don't buy into diet, ate the same for both. Don't buy into vaccines either, since looking back, my first born was "off" before he even received vaccines. I know many families that have one with autism, decide not to vaccinate the rest, and they end up with autism. My 2nd child received all of the vaccines on schedule (no delays, skipped, etc.), and that child is perfectly fine. Oh, and I believe it's genetics. Many of the men in my family have developmental issues, including my father, nephews, and cousins
Just my .02 
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JoesWife628
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Re: Congressional hearings on autism epidemic
Posted by BeachGrl
Posted by luckyinlove
I also won't do the flu shots or the chicken pox shots - I personally want my kids to get the chicken pox. I would much rather them get the chicken pox as children, then get shingles as adults, and God forbid even when they get pregnant some day.
I'm confused, I thought that Shingles is caused by previously having the chicken pox illness. I have heard you cannot get Shingles unless you've had chicken pox
True. You cannot get shingles unless you have had chicken pox. If you have not had chicken pox and come into contact with someone who has shingles, you can contract chicken pox from the person with shingles. Shingles are not contagious meaning a person with shingles cannot give someone else shingles, instead it can only compromise someone who has not had chicken pox with the chicken pox virus. Can you tell I know someone just getting over shingles lol
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| Posted 12/2/12 11:13 AM |
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BeachGrl
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Re: Congressional hearings on autism epidemic
Posted by JoesWife628
Posted by BeachGrl
Posted by luckyinlove
I also won't do the flu shots or the chicken pox shots - I personally want my kids to get the chicken pox. I would much rather them get the chicken pox as children, then get shingles as adults, and God forbid even when they get pregnant some day.
I'm confused, I thought that Shingles is caused by previously having the chicken pox illness. I have heard you cannot get Shingles unless you've had chicken pox
True. You cannot get shingles unless you have had chicken pox. If you have not had chicken pox and come into contact with someone who has shingles, you can contract chicken pox from the person with shingles. Shingles are not contagious meaning a person with shingles cannot give someone else shingles, instead it can only compromise someone who has not had chicken pox with the chicken pox virus. Can you tell I know someone just getting over shingles lol
lol Yea actually my mom had shingles a few years ago and my 45 year old BIL caught the chicken pox from her bc he never had it before!! I was vaccinated for the chicken pox when I was 13(since I never caught it as a kid) so thankfully it protected me against catching the virus from my mom, since we lived in the same house.
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