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MaMaTeenie
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Bucket Dipper vs Bucket Filler
My DS' pre-school teacher has a list up and one side has desired behaviors ie:sharing, being nice to others etc and is labeled bucket filler. The other side is labeled bucket dipper and has a list of undesirable behaviors. Almost daily DS comes home and says Carlos is a bucket dipper.....now, i know my kid isn't perfect, but he is pretty well behaved and is always (as far as I know) a bucket filler. I'm not Carlos' mom and I don't know Carlos' mom, but it really bothers me that she is labeling him a bucket dipper. To me it doesn't matter what you "name" it, you may as well be saying boys and girls Carlos is bad. IDK, what do you think?
It just bugs me.....
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Posted 11/1/10 10:02 AM  |
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jambalady
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Re: Bucket Dipper vs Bucket Filler
ITA. It would bug me too.
I think it's fine to refer to behaviors or actions that are bad, but any label on the child himself, no matter how "creative", such as "bucket dipper" is the same thing as calling him bad.
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| Posted 11/1/10 10:05 AM |
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jgl
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Re: Bucket Dipper vs Bucket Filler
I got to say that I really dont think the teacher is necessarily labeling them. Students need to know where their behavior is all day, especially at younger ages. What I can suggest is to talk to your child about how you are proud of him about how he behaves but he should try not to worry or talk about what other children are.
I teach 1st grade. I use frogs. I have a three sections taped out GREEN YELLOW and RED. Students start on green and if they do something inappropriate, hurt someone, do not follow directions ect... they are told to move their frog (from green to yellow) if it continues they move it again (from yellow to red). My students get very upset about having to move their frog, but it makes them more conscious of what behaviors are not acceptable in school. What ever they are at the end of the day is what they color in their frog that goes home (with a note for yellow or red). Unforntunetly when you have so many students in one room it is impossible to do something like this individually so that others do not know where their frog is. (I have had kids try to move their frog to green without asking). My students ALWAYS have the opportity to turn their day around and get back to yellow or green.
I always tell my students to worry about themselves and not others.
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| Posted 11/1/10 10:15 AM |
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MaMaTeenie
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Re: Bucket Dipper vs Bucket Filler
Posted by jambalady
ITA. It would bug me too.
I think it's fine to refer to behaviors or actions that are bad, but any label on the child himself, no matter how "creative", such as "bucket dipper" is the same thing as calling him bad.
YES!! I agree 10000%
I have no problem saying the behavior is bad, but labeling the kid as bad does not sit well with me AT ALL.
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| Posted 11/1/10 10:19 AM |
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jgl
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Re: Bucket Dipper vs Bucket Filler
Posted by MaMaTeenie
Posted by jambalady
ITA. It would bug me too.
I think it's fine to refer to behaviors or actions that are bad, but any label on the child himself, no matter how "creative", such as "bucket dipper" is the same thing as calling him bad.
YES!! I agree 10000%
I have no problem saying the behavior is bad, but labeling the kid as bad does not sit well with me AT ALL.
Kids will always know that other kids are "bad" whether a teacher has a behavior chart or not. If one child is constantly having to he spoken to or told to stop etc several times a day, other kids are going to figure this out on their own.
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| Posted 11/1/10 10:21 AM |
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MaMaTeenie
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Re: Bucket Dipper vs Bucket Filler
Posted by jgl
I got to say that I really dont think the teacher is necessarily labeling them. Students need to know where their behavior is all day, especially at younger ages. What I can suggest is to talk to your child about how you are proud of him about how he behaves but he should try not to worry or talk about what other children are.
I teach 1st grade. I use frogs. I have a three sections taped out GREEN YELLOW and RED. Students start on green and if they do something inappropriate, hurt someone, do not follow directions ect... they are told to move their frog (from green to yellow) if it continues they move it again (from yellow to red). My students get very upset about having to move their frog, but it makes them more conscious of what behaviors are not acceptable in school. What ever they are at the end of the day is what they color in their frog that goes home (with a note for yellow or red). Unforntunetly when you have so many students in one room it is impossible to do something like this individually so that others do not know where their frog is. (I have had kids try to move their frog to green without asking). My students ALWAYS have the opportity to turn their day around and get back to yellow or green.
I always tell my students to worry about themselves and not others.
This doesn't bother me one bit. You aren't placing the emphasis on the child, you are placing it on the behavior which is where it belongs.
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| Posted 11/1/10 10:21 AM |
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jgl
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Re: Bucket Dipper vs Bucket Filler
Posted by MaMaTeenie
Posted by jgl
I got to say that I really dont think the teacher is necessarily labeling them. Students need to know where their behavior is all day, especially at younger ages. What I can suggest is to talk to your child about how you are proud of him about how he behaves but he should try not to worry or talk about what other children are.
I teach 1st grade. I use frogs. I have a three sections taped out GREEN YELLOW and RED. Students start on green and if they do something inappropriate, hurt someone, do not follow directions ect... they are told to move their frog (from green to yellow) if it continues they move it again (from yellow to red). My students get very upset about having to move their frog, but it makes them more conscious of what behaviors are not acceptable in school. What ever they are at the end of the day is what they color in their frog that goes home (with a note for yellow or red). Unforntunetly when you have so many students in one room it is impossible to do something like this individually so that others do not know where their frog is. (I have had kids try to move their frog to green without asking). My students ALWAYS have the opportity to turn their day around and get back to yellow or green.
I always tell my students to worry about themselves and not others.
This doesn't bother me one bit. You aren't placing the emphasis on the child, you are placing it on the behavior which is where it belongs.
How is tis teacher not doing the same? My students will say "im a red frog"
Message edited 11/1/2010 10:23:28 AM.
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| Posted 11/1/10 10:22 AM |
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MaMaTeenie
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Re: Bucket Dipper vs Bucket Filler
Posted by jgl
Posted by MaMaTeenie
Posted by jambalady
ITA. It would bug me too.
I think it's fine to refer to behaviors or actions that are bad, but any label on the child himself, no matter how "creative", such as "bucket dipper" is the same thing as calling him bad.
YES!! I agree 10000%
I have no problem saying the behavior is bad, but labeling the kid as bad does not sit well with me AT ALL.
Kids will always know that other kids are "bad" whether a teacher has a behavior chart or not. If one child is constantly having to he spoken to or told to stop etc several times a day, other kids are going to figure this out on their own.
Which is fine, let them figure it out on their own. Let them see that so and so doesn't get a sticker and go to the treasure box because they hit. The teacher should not be announcing a, b, c, and d are bucket fillers and e, f, g are bucket dippers.
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| Posted 11/1/10 10:23 AM |
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MaMaTeenie
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Re: Bucket Dipper vs Bucket Filler
Posted by jgl
Posted by MaMaTeenie
Posted by jgl
I got to say that I really dont think the teacher is necessarily labeling them. Students need to know where their behavior is all day, especially at younger ages. What I can suggest is to talk to your child about how you are proud of him about how he behaves but he should try not to worry or talk about what other children are.
I teach 1st grade. I use frogs. I have a three sections taped out GREEN YELLOW and RED. Students start on green and if they do something inappropriate, hurt someone, do not follow directions ect... they are told to move their frog (from green to yellow) if it continues they move it again (from yellow to red). My students get very upset about having to move their frog, but it makes them more conscious of what behaviors are not acceptable in school. What ever they are at the end of the day is what they color in their frog that goes home (with a note for yellow or red). Unforntunetly when you have so many students in one room it is impossible to do something like this individually so that others do not know where their frog is. (I have had kids try to move their frog to green without asking). My students ALWAYS have the opportity to turn their day around and get back to yellow or green.
I always tell my students to worry about themselves and not others.
This doesn't bother me one bit. You aren't placing the emphasis on the child, you are placing it on the behavior which is where it belongs.
How is tis teacher not doing the same? My students will say "im a red frog"
because she is putting the emphasis on the child. singling out the ones who misbehaved that day.
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| Posted 11/1/10 10:24 AM |
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jgl
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Re: Bucket Dipper vs Bucket Filler
maybe I am really not understanding HOW this is done in the classroom.
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| Posted 11/1/10 10:24 AM |
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MaMaTeenie
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Re: Bucket Dipper vs Bucket Filler
Posted by jgl
maybe I am really not understanding HOW this is done in the classroom.
maybe. or maybe we just disagree which is fine too.  I just personally hate the labeling of a child and not the behavior. I wouldn't do it in my home or in my classroom, but thats just me. I realize I may be taking what she is doing the wrong way or being upset by it when I shouldn't thats why I want to know what you ladies and gents think
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| Posted 11/1/10 10:28 AM |
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Porrruss
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Re: Bucket Dipper vs Bucket Filler
I think using the term "bad" is inappropriate, but letting a child know his behaviors are inappropriate is needed. I think bucket filler/dipper is a bit abstract, but I don't think it's a derogatory or hurtful *label* on the child.
Using the color system is also a way of labeling behaviors- and it works for most children. I know my neighbor has come home crowing about being on green all day while his friend *John* was on red. So there goes the idea that it's not a label in the way the OP described.
I have to say though- I think that kids sometimes need to feel some shame when they behave inappropriately.
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| Posted 11/1/10 10:33 AM |
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Porrruss
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Re: Bucket Dipper vs Bucket Filler
I also don't believe that typical children should be tangibly *rewarded* for appropriate behavior. A "good job doing _____." should suffice.
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| Posted 11/1/10 10:35 AM |
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