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Another spinoff to Liza's post = feeling like a slave!
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smdl
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Another spinoff to Liza's post = feeling like a slave!
I do a job that I love. NOW!
I used to work in Corporate and I hated hearing, you should be lucky you have a job. I heard it from over 6 years. With lay offs every 6 months.
All I heard was "commitment" on the part of the employees. But heck the next day you could be gone.
Don't fool yourself. There is no loyalty! You work as hard as you can (sometimes doing the job of 2-3 people that got laid off). You think you are "safe" because you give up your lunch, work 10+ hours per day. You are not safe! All is happening is that you kill yourself, you get stressed, you take it on your spouse and kids.
Yes, we all need to make a living but I don't agree with giving it all and get nothing in return.
The contract is that you are paid for your job. You do the best you can. Your goal is to be VERY good, efficient and productive so you don't slack while you work.
That being said, I REFUSE to have people taking advantage of me.
At some point, I have to give up 2/3 of my vacation to keep my job. And you know what..... they still laid off people anyway. After 5 years, I learned my lesson. Salary freeze, no chance of promotion. I spent 9 years in my last career and left. I had had it!
So what is next! We agree to work for the minimum wage so we can keep our job. As long as employees are willing to do it, employers will sure take that last drop of blood from you.
I resented working for that company, enough that I changed career. I needed "some" control too.
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Posted 1/29/09 12:56 PM |
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Re: Another spinoff to Liza's post = feeling like a slave!
So true, sophie. After DS was born, i never saw my husband. It almost affected our marriage - he worked 12 hours a day, and on saturdays. He sometimes worked Sundays. It was awful!!!
know what, they wound up laying him off. The 1st thing he said was, "All that time I spent there instead of here."
Now, he has a job he likes, is 100% commited to, but balances his life better.
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Posted 1/29/09 12:59 PM |
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pinkandblue
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Re: Another spinoff to Liza's post = feeling like a slave!
my family is and always will be my #1 priority, and I have found a job that let's and encourages me to balance both work and home life
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Posted 1/29/09 1:07 PM |
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Jenn627
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Re: Another spinoff to Liza's post = feeling like a slave!
I have a totally different view on this subject.
110% to EVERYTHING I do.
Relationships, work, athletics.
I work hard in a relationship that ends up going no where? Good for me for putting forth my best effort.
I work hard to mend my relationship with a dying relative and they pass away before it's mended? Good for me for putting forth my best effort.
I work hard at a job that ends up laying me off? Good for me for putting forth my best effort.
I work hard at a sport to get benched? Good for me for putting forth my best effort.
It's ALL about sacrifices and balance in every aspect of life.
I sacrifice time with my dying relative because I have to work late one night, life.
I sacrifice time from work to take care of my dying relative, life.
I sacrifice time from an athletic commitment to watch my nieces and nephews, life.
It ALL balances out.
I don't sit around thinking about MY needs, and MY life, and what can I do to make MY life better? I sacrifice. I also DO take care of myself. If I walked around with a mentality of why should I do that? It's not worth my time. I think I'd be a very selfish individual.
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Posted 1/29/09 1:11 PM |
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smdl
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Re: Another spinoff to Liza's post = feeling like a slave!
Posted by Jenn627
I have a totally different view on this subject.
110% to EVERYTHING I do.
Relationships, work, athletics.
I work hard in a relationship that ends up going no where? Good for me for putting forth my best effort.
I work hard to mend my relationship with a dying relative and they pass away before it's mended? Good for me for putting forth my best effort.
I work hard at a job that ends up laying me off? Good for me for putting forth my best effort.
I work hard at a sport to get benched? Good for me for putting forth my best effort.
It's ALL about sacrifices and balance in every aspect of life.
I sacrifice time with my dying relative because I have to work late one night, life.
I sacrifice time from work to take care of my dying relative, life.
I sacrifice time from an athletic commitment to watch my nieces and nephews, life.
It ALL balances out.
I don't sit around thinking about MY needs, and MY life, and what can I do to make MY life better? I sacrifice. I also DO take care of myself. If I walked around with a mentality of why should I do that? It's not worth my time. I think I'd be a very selfish individual.
I did not say that I was not working. I was doing 2 people job for over a year. I got 1% raise for "efforts". It was HUGE slap in the face. There is so much you can sacrifice but after 5 years of THOSE sacrifices, I gave up! Everybody has there breaking point.
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Posted 1/29/09 1:18 PM |
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Re: Another spinoff to Liza's post = feeling like a slave!
Posted by Jenn627
I have a totally different view on this subject.
110% to EVERYTHING I do.
Relationships, work, athletics.
I work hard in a relationship that ends up going no where? Good for me for putting forth my best effort.
I work hard to mend my relationship with a dying relative and they pass away before it's mended? Good for me for putting forth my best effort.
I work hard at a job that ends up laying me off? Good for me for putting forth my best effort.
I work hard at a sport to get benched? Good for me for putting forth my best effort.
It's ALL about sacrifices and balance in every aspect of life.
I sacrifice time with my dying relative because I have to work late one night, life.
I sacrifice time from work to take care of my dying relative, life.
I sacrifice time from an athletic commitment to watch my nieces and nephews, life.
It ALL balances out.
I don't sit around thinking about MY needs, and MY life, and what can I do to make MY life better? I sacrifice. I also DO take care of myself. If I walked around with a mentality of why should I do that? It's not worth my time. I think I'd be a very selfish individual.
The point is, what you are sacrificing in the process.
I love my job for the most part, but if it was about me, I would do more freelance work, work more on my book, and not focus on the financial aspect of it.
I work as hard as I do because my child is depending on me to clothe and feed him.
It's not about me, it's about him. If it were about me, I would not be sacrificing myself the way I do.
However, I could put MORE time into my job - they don't care - they will take every drop of my blood. But, that would be sacrificing my child's needs in order to look better at work. again, it's about balance.
there is a limit to what you can put 110% in. I put 110% in everything I do, but as my life gets more complicated, more scarifices and considerations need to be made.... It's not about me, it's about who needs what from me, and how much I can realitically give.
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Posted 1/29/09 1:26 PM |
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Jenn627
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Re: Another spinoff to Liza's post = feeling like a slave!
Posted by smdl
I did not say that I was not working. I was doing 2 people job for over a year. I got 1% raise for "efforts". It was HUGE slap in the face. There is so much you can sacrifice but after 5 years of THOSE sacrifices, I gave up! Everybody has there breaking point.
Wasn't trying to imply that at all.... I know things get misconstrued all the time on chat boards. It wasn't directed at you or anyone else.
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Posted 1/29/09 1:29 PM |
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HoneyBadger
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Re: Another spinoff to Liza's post = feeling like a slave!
Sophie I agree with you 110% but I do think it's all subjective.
Some people put 110% into their job, some into being a parent, some into being a friend. It's all what you think is important and that is how you find YOUR balance.
For what it's worth, I agree with you and your post. I don't feel putting everything into my job is worth sacrificing time with my family and friends.
I would LOVE to find a job that enables me to find the balance but until that time comes I have to keep my head down and do what's expected of me. It sucks for now, but I hope that eventually, like you did, I will find a career path that will give me that balance and happiness.
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Posted 1/29/09 1:36 PM |
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Jenn627
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Re: Another spinoff to Liza's post = feeling like a slave!
Posted by lipglossjunky73
The point is, what you are sacrificing in the process.
I love my job for the most part, but if it was about me, I would do more freelance work, work more on my book, and not focus on the financial aspect of it.
I work as hard as I do because my child is depending on me to clothe and feed him.
It's not about me, it's about him. If it were about me, I would not be sacrificing myself the way I do.
However, I could put MORE time into my job - they don't care - they will take every drop of my blood. But, that would be sacrificing my child's needs in order to look better at work. again, it's about balance.
there is a limit to what you can put 110% in. I put 110% in everything I do, but as my life gets more complicated, more scarifices and considerations need to be made.... It's not about me, it's about who needs what from me, and how much I can realitically give.
I completely agree with you - it's all about sacrifices. At the same time, if you keep sacrificing one thing - I think it's poisonous. Whether it be work, or school, or home, or hobbies - you shut down (stop caring, get a crappy mentality about) on that one thing - it's detrimental to you (generally speaking)as a whole.
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Posted 1/29/09 1:39 PM |
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johnsae
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Re: Another spinoff to Liza's post = feeling like a slave!
all the jobs I have ever worked were pretty thankless. I worked in advertising for 3 years and kept getting promotions without a pay raise and my boss would say "it's the industry...this is how it works"...um, no...sorry.
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Posted 1/29/09 5:58 PM |
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