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heathergirl
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6 year old girl being evicted from home...
A retirement community in Largo, Florida is fighting to evict six-year-old Kimberly Broffman from the home of her grandparents Jimmy and Judie Stottler, the only parents she's ever known. According to the development's bylaws, all residents must be older than 55.
Kimberly is the only person expected to vacate the home.
Kimberly's grandparents have tried selling their house to leave the neighborhood, but because of the crash in the housing market, there are no buyers. They have lowered the price from $225,000 to $129,000.
The fight between Kimberly's grandparents and the community has been going on for years, but soon a judge will decide if the girl must leave. According to NBC News, there is a real possibility that she could be placed in state foster care.
Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/21/retirement-community-figh_n_328396.html
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I think that is horrendous! I understand the whole premise of these 55 and older communities, but I think it takes a hell of a coldhearted person to file a claim to evict her! She is 1 child, how much can she POSSIBLY affect the lives of every other adult? Granted, if 1 person does it, everyone will want to, but is that honestly a valid enough point? These people care more about their comfort, than the fact that these grandparents are trying everything in their power to raise this little girl...I wonder how some of these people would feel if they were in this position?
The lack of basic human compassion is astounding.
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Re: 6 year old girl being evicted from home...
Posted by heathergirl
I think that is horrendous! I understand the whole premise of these 55 and older communities, but I think it takes a hell of a coldhearted person to file a claim to evict her! She is 1 child, how much can she POSSIBLY affect the lives of every other adult? Granted, if 1 person does it, everyone will want to, but is that honestly a valid enough point? These people care more about their comfort, than the fact that these grandparents are trying everything in their power to raise this little girl...I wonder how some of these people would feel if they were in this position?
The lack of basic human compassion is astounding.
agreed!
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| Posted 10/21/09 4:14 PM |
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nrthshgrl
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Re: 6 year old girl being evicted from home...
Actually I see their point. They bought a home in a 55 & over community with bylaws stating that.
They've had 6 years to get their act together. The housing market only crashed last year.
eta. also it's load of crap that they're putting this kid in foster care.
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| Posted 10/21/09 4:20 PM |
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Christine
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Re: 6 year old girl being evicted from home...
I read somewhere that she's been there for four years. The market was fine if not great back then. It's a terribly unfortunate situation but it's a retirement community, they knew this when they purchased the property and when they took her in. I think the community has been understanding for all those years. Of course I dont think she should be taken into foster care but her grandparents should have done something sooner to find someplace else more suitable to live.
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MrsPJB2007
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Re: 6 year old girl being evicted from home...
If she has been there for years -- and this is the only home she's ever known -- that means they moved into the community KNOWING they had a infant/toddler coming with them to a strict 55+ community.
While I feel bad for the little girl, the grand parents should have sold the condo the moment they inherited it...since they knew they were going to have to keep this little girl. If they were living there first and then got the girl, and she's been there for years, they should have tried selling it 4 years ago and not just in the last year.
If they let her stay--like someone else said -- there is a chance others will want to do the same, and the rest of the residents who paid for a 55+ community would be greatly outraged by this.
Its a stinky situation, but I think I'd like to hear more about it and whether the grandparents bought their condo KNOWING they couldn't have her there.
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| Posted 10/21/09 4:30 PM |
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Re: 6 year old girl being evicted from home...
Posted by Christine
I read somewhere that she's been there for four years. The market was fine if not great back then. It's a terribly unfortunate situation but it's a retirement community, they knew this when they purchased the property and when they took her in. I think the community has been understanding for all those years. Of course I dont think she should be taken into foster care but her grandparents should have done something sooner to find someplace else more suitable to live.
I agree - it is awful what's happening now but it is a 55+ community. Who knows how many times the family has been sent letters by the board or management company that they must move...
I have heard though, don't know if it's true, that 55+ communities will not advertise it BUT they have to allow something like 10% of residents/people buying in the community to be under 55. Otherwise, it's age discrimination. Again, I don't know if it's true though.
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| Posted 10/21/09 4:31 PM |
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heathergirl
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Re: 6 year old girl being evicted from home...
I totally understand the other points, I just still feel it is incredibly insensitive and disheartening.
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| Posted 10/21/09 4:33 PM |
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Re: 6 year old girl being evicted from home...
Posted by nrthshgrl
Actually I see their point. They bought a home in a 55 & over community with bylaws stating that.
They've had 6 years to get their act together. The housing market only crashed last year.
eta. also it's load of crap that they're putting this kid in foster care.
ita. people move to these communities b/c they dont want kids there, and they pay less taxes b/c there are no school-aged children living there. they knew what they were doing was wrong.
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Christine
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Re: 6 year old girl being evicted from home...
Posted by MrsPJB2007
If she has been there for years -- and this is the only home she's ever known -- that means they moved into the community KNOWING they had a infant/toddler coming with them to a strict 55+ community.
While I feel bad for the little girl, the grand parents bought a condo in a place they should not have if they knew they were going to have to keep this little girl. If they were living there first and then got the girl, and she's been there for years, they should have tried selling it 4 years ago and not just in the last year.
If they let her stay--like someone else said -- there is a chance others will want to do the same, and the rest of the residents who paid for a 55+ community would be greatly outraged by this.
Its a stinky situation, but I think I'd like to hear more about it and whether the grandparents bought their condo KNOWING they couldn't have her there.
They HAD to have known it was over 55 when they moved in. I don't know when they purchased the property. The other article I read stated the grandparents got custody of the girl when she was 2. They could have been there for years prior to getting custody.
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| Posted 10/21/09 4:35 PM |
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Beth
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Re: 6 year old girl being evicted from home...
Posted by Christine
I read somewhere that she's been there for four years. The market was fine if not great back then. .
not really true for FL....yes there was a boom there- but it was mostly new construction- they already lowered the asking price by 50% - so it's not like they aren't trying...
if the condo board wants them out so badly- they should buy them out- to even think of putting a child in forster care is gross...
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| Posted 10/21/09 5:45 PM |
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Christine
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Re: 6 year old girl being evicted from home...
Posted by Beth
Posted by Christine
I read somewhere that she's been there for four years. The market was fine if not great back then. .
not really true for FL....yes there was a boom there- but it was mostly new construction- they already lowered the asking price by 50% - so it's not like they aren't trying...
if the condo board wants them out so badly- they should buy them out- to even think of putting a child in forster care is gross...
My mother lives pretty close to that area and I got weekly calls from my mother telling me how the condos in her developement were increasing. They came close to doubling the price she paid in 2004. Same with where my uncle lived. These were resells in two areas on the west coast. Now it's a completely different story - the prices have been dropping for about a little over a year but not back then.
I do agree it is disgusting to even think of putting that child in foster care.
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Re: 6 year old girl being evicted from home...
I cannot imagine a state's social work department agreeing to take a child away from her guardians when no abuse, neglect, or harm is evident, in favor of putting her in foster care because of a contractual dispute between the guardians and an HOA. Sorry, I don't buy it. I think that angle is being significantly played up to tug on the heartstrings of the public.
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mrswask
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Re: 6 year old girl being evicted from home...
Posted by Beth
if the condo board wants them out so badly- they should buy them out- to even think of putting a child in forster care is gross...
Why is this really the fault of the condo board though? Why should they have to buy them out? If a judge was threatening to take away my grandchild, I'd be moving and fast - even if it was to an extended stay hotel until this could all be settled. It is not the fault of the condo board to enforce their rules.
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| Posted 10/21/09 8:00 PM |
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Beth
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Re: 6 year old girl being evicted from home...
Posted by mrswask
Posted by Beth
if the condo board wants them out so badly- they should buy them out- to even think of putting a child in forster care is gross...
Why is this really the fault of the condo board though? Why should they have to buy them out? If a judge was threatening to take away my grandchild, I'd be moving and fast - even if it was to an extended stay hotel until this could all be settled. It is not the fault of the condo board to enforce their rules.
I didn't say it was the condo's fault- I offered another solution
they want them out- they can't sell b/c of the market- buy them out at market value
why should they leave their home they pay for? and pay to live some where else
what if I had to move back home with my Dad? I am not 55...but I doubt my Dad would just cave and go pay to live some where else...they are fighting and they should!
it's not like they are refusing to sell and staying put-
we are talking about a 6 year- not a convicted felon
ETA- my brother did live at my grandma's 55 and older condo for 6 months...no one said a word...he was 21
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Beth
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Re: 6 year old girl being evicted from home...
the grandmother makes $18K a year
and the grandfather is disabled
they want to move - but have no family and no place to go
every is always saying how this world have no compassion
and yet most people think they should just move and what live in their car?
much better article
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MsSissy
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Re: 6 year old girl being evicted from home...
I would have stopped paying my mortgage, banked that money and let them evict all of us.
I would never allow them to put my grandchild in foster care. My house wouldn't be worth it.
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| Posted 10/21/09 8:28 PM |
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Beth
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Re: 6 year old girl being evicted from home...
Posted by Mssissy
I would have stopped paying my mortgage, banked that money and let them evict all of us.
I would never allow them to put my grandchild in foster care. My house wouldn't be worth it.
they inhertied it...not sure if they have a mortgage- this is probably everything they have
no money for a lawyer either
they should have refied it- pulled the money out and walked...
but they thought the mother was going to take the child back and she is no where to be found
not sure where they are going on $18K a year minus daycare.... that's $1500 a month gross- before taxes
so about $250 a week for 3 people after taxes....for rent, food and living
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| Posted 10/21/09 8:36 PM |
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Christine
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Re: 6 year old girl being evicted from home...
That article is 2 1/2 years old and indicates the grandparents were fully aware of the rules and were given a year and a half to work something out.
Soon after they took in Kimberly, the association objected. In April 2005, Judie Stottler signed a mediation agreement saying her family would comply with the Lakes' rules by Oct. 1, 2006.
They could have sold and rented something, bought something smaller that wasn't as close to the water they could have rented out their unit and lived someplace else. They had options that they didn't exercise. The board has been patient but they were also backed into a corner and have a responsibility to the other homeowners.
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Posted by Beth
no money for a lawyer either
From the video posted in the original link, they do have a lawyer.
I'm curious to know how the other residences feel about the situation. Do they have anyone supporting them?
It's a terrible situation. But eviction and foster care is the answer. I pray the judge will give them more time.
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Beth
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Re: 6 year old girl being evicted from home...
Posted by Christine
That article is 2 1/2 years old and indicates the grandparents were fully aware of the rules and were given a year and a half to work something out.
Soon after they took in Kimberly, the association objected. In April 2005, Judie Stottler signed a mediation agreement saying her family would comply with the Lakes' rules by Oct. 1, 2006.
They could have sold and rented something, bought something smaller that wasn't as close to the water they could have rented out their unit and lived someplace else. They had options that they didn't exercise. The board has been patient but they were also backed into a corner and have a responsibility to the other homeowners.
the line after the one you picked it kind of important as well...
Soon after they took in Kimberly, the association objected. In April 2005, Judie Stottler signed a mediation agreement saying her family would comply with the Lakes' rules by Oct. 1, 2006.
The Stottlers' plan was to give Kimberly back to her mother, but her mother took off, said Judie Stottler. They decided to try to move and take Kimberly with them.
what happens if they get evicted? they lose the house? who gets it? the HOA board? how is that fair...
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Beth
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Re: 6 year old girl being evicted from home...
Posted by Mssissy
Posted by Beth
no money for a lawyer either
From the video posted in the original link, they do have a lawyer.
I'm curious to know how the other residences feel about the situation. Do they have anyone supporting them?
It's a terrible situation. But eviction and foster care is the answer. I pray the judge will give them more time.
whoops...the article I took that from was old...I guess now they have a lawyer - since it's making headlines
but they didn't at first
it's terrible...
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| Posted 10/21/09 8:49 PM |
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Christine
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Re: 6 year old girl being evicted from home...
Posted by Beth
Posted by Christine
That article is 2 1/2 years old and indicates the grandparents were fully aware of the rules and were given a year and a half to work something out.
Soon after they took in Kimberly, the association objected. In April 2005, Judie Stottler signed a mediation agreement saying her family would comply with the Lakes' rules by Oct. 1, 2006.
They could have sold and rented something, bought something smaller that wasn't as close to the water they could have rented out their unit and lived someplace else. They had options that they didn't exercise. The board has been patient but they were also backed into a corner and have a responsibility to the other homeowners.
the line after the one you picked it kind of important as well...
Soon after they took in Kimberly, the association objected. In April 2005, Judie Stottler signed a mediation agreement saying her family would comply with the Lakes' rules by Oct. 1, 2006.
The Stottlers' plan was to give Kimberly back to her mother, but her mother took off, said Judie Stottler. They decided to try to move and take Kimberly with them.
what happens if they get evicted? they lose the house? who gets it? the HOA board? how is that fair...
I can't tell from the article when they decided to retain custody but they still knew they needed to move well over 2 years ago.
And you asked the million dollar question. There is no fair solution at this point. 
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