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No Child Left Behind - hmmph! (VERY VERY LONG)

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Goldi0218
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No Child Left Behind - hmmph! (VERY VERY LONG)

This is REALLY long. A friend of mine who is a teacher of children with special needs just like I am, sent it to me.

If you don't understand why educators resent the recent federal NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND ACT, this may help. If you do understand, you'll enjoy this analogy, which was forwarded by:

John S. Taylor, Superintendent of Schools for the Lancaster County, PA,School District .

This is so GREAT, and it puts the RIDICULOUSNESS of the "No Child LeftBehind" nonsense into perspective. Whether you're a teacher or thefriend of one, I hope you'll appreciate the analogy. Be sure to read to the end...

No Dentist Left Behind

My dentist is great! He sends me reminders so I don't forget checkups. He uses the latest techniques based on research. He never hurts me, and I've got all my teeth. When I ran into him the other day, I was eager to see if he'd heard about the new state program. I knew he'd think it was great.

"Did you hear about the new state program to measure effectiveness of dentists with their young patients?" I said.

" No," he said. He didn't seem too thrilled. "How will they do that?"

"It's quite simple," I said. "They will just count the number of cavities each patient has at age 10, 14, and 18 and average that to determine a dentist's rating. Dentists will be rated as excellent, good, average, below average, and unsatisfactory. That way parents will know which are the best dentists. The plan will also encourage the less effective dentists to get better," I said. "Poor dentists who don't improve could lose their licenses to practice."

"That's terrible," he said.

"What? That's not a good attitude," I said. "Don't you think we should try to improve children's dental health in this state?"

"Sure I do," he said, "but that's not a fair way to determine who is practicing good dentistry."

"Why not?" I said. "It makes perfect sense to me."

"Well, it's so obvious," he said. "Don't you see that dentists don't all work with the same clientele, and that much depends on things we can't control? For example, I work in a rural area with a high percentage of patients from deprived homes, while some of my colleagues work in upper middle-class neighborhoods. Many of the parents I work with don't bring their children to see me until there is some kind of problem, and I don't get to do much preventive work.Also many of the parents I serve let their kids eat way too much candy from an early age, unlike more educated parents who understand the relationship between sugar and decay. To top it all off, so many of my clients have well water, which is untreated and has no fluoride in it. Do you have any idea how much difference early use of fluoride can make?"

"It sounds like you're making excuses," I said. "I can't believe that you, my dentist, would be so defensive. After all, you do a great job, and you needn't fear a little accountability."

"I am not being defensive!" he said. "My best patients are as good as anyone's, my work is as good as anyone's, but my average cavity count is going to be higher than a lot of other dentists because I chose to work where I am needed most."

"Don't' get touchy," I said.

"Touchy?" he said. His face had turned red, and from the way he was clenching and unclenching his jaws, I was afraid he was going to damage his teeth. "Try furious! In a system like this, I will end up being rated average, below average, or worse. The few educated patients I have who see these ratings may believe this so-called rating is an actual measure of my ability and proficiency as a dentist. They may leave me, and I'll be left with only the most needy patients. And my cavity average score will get even worse. On top of that, how will I attract good dental hygienists and other excellent dentists to my practice if it is labeled below average?"

"I think you are overreacting," I said."'Complaining, excuse-making and stonewalling won't improve dental health'...I am quoting from a leading member of the DOC," I noted.

"What's the DOC?" he asked.

"It's the Dental Oversight Committee," I said, "a group made up of mostly lay persons to make sure dentistry in this state gets improved."

"Spare me," he said, "I can't believe this. Reasonable people won't buy it," he said hopefully.

The program sounded reasonable to me, so I asked, "How else would you measure good dentistry?"

"Come watch me work," he said. "Observe my processes."

"That's too complicated, expensive and time-consuming," I said. "Cavities are the bottom line, and you can't argue with the bottom line. It's an absolute measure."

"That's what I'm afraid my parents and prospective patients will think. This can't be happening," he said despairingly.

"Now, now," I said, "don't despair. The state will help you some."

"How?" he asked.

"If you receive a poor rating, they'll send a dentist who is rated excellent to help straighten you out," I said brightly.

"You mean," he said, "they'll send a dentist with a wealthy clientele toshow me how to work on severe juvenile dental problems with which I haveprobably had much more experience? BIG HELP!"

"There you go again," I said. "You aren't acting professionally at all."

"You don't get it," he said. "Doing this would be like grading schools and teachers on an average score made on a test of children's progress with no regard to influences outside the school, the home, the community served and stuff like that. Why would they do something so unfair to dentists? No one would ever think of doing that to schools."

I just shook my head sadly, but he had brightened. "I'm going to write my representatives and senators," he said. "I'll use the school analogy. Surely they will see the point."

He walked off with that look of hope mixed with fear and suppressed anger that I, a teacher, see in the mirror so often lately.
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Posted 1/31/07 9:44 PM
 

BaroqueMama
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Posted 1/31/07 10:01 PM
 

Goldi0218
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Re: No Child Left Behind - hmmph! (VERY VERY LONG)

In my setting, this "No Child Left Behind" thing, forces us to administer state tests to children who are performing 2, 3 and 4 grade levels below where they should be. It is perhaps one of the most heartbreaking things, as an educator, to have to do and there is NO way around it.

Posted 1/31/07 10:09 PM
 

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Re: No Child Left Behind - hmmph! (VERY VERY LONG)

I will be passing that around my school tomorrow!!!

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Posted 1/31/07 10:30 PM
 

Goldi0218
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Re: No Child Left Behind - hmmph! (VERY VERY LONG)

I just wish I wrote it.

Posted 1/31/07 10:32 PM
 

BaroqueMama
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Re: No Child Left Behind - hmmph! (VERY VERY LONG)

I would like to add that THIS is why you will never find me in the public school system. We are an independent, non-profit private school and we teach the to the child, and not to a test. We do take something called the ERBs, but there is very little stress or attention put on them at all.

Posted 1/31/07 10:59 PM
 

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Posted 1/31/07 11:28 PM
 

Nicole728
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Re: No Child Left Behind - hmmph! (VERY VERY LONG)

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Posted 2/1/07 9:51 AM
 

MrsSchwags
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Re: No Child Left Behind - hmmph! (VERY VERY LONG)

that is awesome!!!! when I was teaching in Florida I know there were alot of talks of there State test being used towards Salary in teachers, which isn't fair at all.

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Posted 2/1/07 9:54 AM
 

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Posted 2/1/07 6:21 PM
 

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Posted 2/1/07 8:39 PM
 

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Posted 2/2/07 7:36 AM
 

franklee
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Re: No Child Left Behind - hmmph! (VERY VERY LONG)

Chat Icon Chat Icon I love it!! Chat Icon Chat Icon How about this one...I teach 11 16-19 yr olds with mental retardation in a private school..however, we are state funded which means assessments must be done...we conduct alternate assessments in which I have to create my own worksheets,etc. THis is the funny part...my students must be assessed in high school areas b/c of their age even though they only function at at 3rd grade level!! so I am teaching them the bill of rights and the continents and algebra just so they can be assessed when my day should consist of teaching them a more functional curriculum!!! Gotta love these people!!

Posted 2/3/07 3:41 PM
 

Goldi0218
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Re: No Child Left Behind - hmmph! (VERY VERY LONG)

Iti s very very very hard to get approval for alternate assessment. In our location, I can think of 1 child out of about 130 or so who has it.

Posted 2/3/07 5:04 PM
 

danielle
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Re: No Child Left Behind - hmmph! (VERY VERY LONG)

I love this soooo much!

Posted 2/4/07 9:43 AM
 
 

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