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KarenK122
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Re: There Are Jobs in the Hamptons. If Only Workers Could Afford The Rent.
Posted by BFNY516
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We need to talk more about teachers and nurses. Everyone expects the BEST for themselves and their children, because when it comes to their actual lives, they realize you can't overstate the importance of having exceptional ones. But too many look down on them as groups and don't seem in too hot a hurry to expect that they'd be paid like the coveted professionals that they are.
I also agree with those who said that less skilled positions still need to be paid a living wage.
The salary average in my district is 97,000. I think that is more than fair wages for a teacher. We are not the highest paid on the island either. Yes when you start you do not make that much but that is the case with every profession. On top of that, they get stipends for everything extra that they do so their salary is increased. While respect every single teacher and think their job is very important, they are getting paid a fair wage. If you are talking outside of Long Island, then that is different conversation but where ever they work, the salary averages are always available to see and they would know that before going down that career path or taking a job.
I’m OK with the teacher salaries because I think they do so much and most of it is unseen.
I do have an issue with the excessive pay and excessive amount of administrator salaries there are on LI. Especially special education admin, which seem to be pretty problematic across the board here.
I don't agree with the special ed part because the one in my district is worth every penny. Totally agree with that vast amount of administrators and many of them making well over 300,000. That is a problem across the island.
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Re: There Are Jobs in the Hamptons. If Only Workers Could Afford The Rent.
Posted by LittleDiva
I can’t quote everything.
But where does everyone think the money is coming from?? Prices and cost of living are just going to sore. There is a reason things cost so much more compared to 20 years ago.
These are JOBS. And for anyone who has no choice but to support their family on a minimum wage job there are plenty of programs out there to help them.
Teach kids actual skills to help them succeed in life….finance or basic money classes, budgeting classes, job interviewing/resume building, home improvement classes, trades, cut the crap that is completely useless in life. EDUCATION is key….especially the 11/12th grade kids who have no intentions of going to college. Stop the cycle and give these kids direction in life.
No one seems to ever answer that and raising the minimum wage doesn’t always mean people will make more money as companies need to cut their hours to afford to pay that much.
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| Posted 6/30/21 1:15 PM |
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Re: There Are Jobs in the Hamptons. If Only Workers Could Afford The Rent.
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by KarenK122
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Posted by Diane
Posted by klingklang77
Oh, but you know, they don’t want to work because unemployment pays well. 
Exactly!! Everyone is hiring, everywhere you go, there are signs saying we are hiring, but no one wants to work...pretty sad.
That was sarcasm. Sorry it wasn’t clear.
This stuck out to me:
“Richard and Danielys Cadrouce, a brother and sister who live in Bushwick, Brooklyn, were excited to work at Almond this summer, eager to make up for the slump of last year when restaurant work in the city all but disappeared.
But after paying $1,000 each to keep renting their New York City apartment, as well as $120 a week each to share a room without air conditioning in a house near Almond, they said they were barely breaking even. They are considering quitting.“
Doesn’t seem like the pay is livable.
They are paying for two homes, one of which they are not living in. I am sure there are plenty of restaurant work closer to Brooklyn for the summer but I'm sure they are hoping for larger tips in the Hamptons. There are plenty of places to live on the east end that would not break the bank. Maybe they need to drive 30 minutes but they are there. You don't need to live in the town you work in. They are making more money sitting home so why should anyone make the effort.
It’s a seasonal job in the Hamptons. I wouldn’t expect them to give up their regular apartment. It seems to me that the pandemic brought light on these poorly paid jobs.
Did you see my post about these people in the article?
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| Posted 6/30/21 1:16 PM |
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BFNY516
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Re: There Are Jobs in the Hamptons. If Only Workers Could Afford The Rent.
Posted by KarenK122
Posted by BFNY516
Posted by KarenK122
Posted by seaside
We need to talk more about teachers and nurses. Everyone expects the BEST for themselves and their children, because when it comes to their actual lives, they realize you can't overstate the importance of having exceptional ones. But too many look down on them as groups and don't seem in too hot a hurry to expect that they'd be paid like the coveted professionals that they are.
I also agree with those who said that less skilled positions still need to be paid a living wage.
The salary average in my district is 97,000. I think that is more than fair wages for a teacher. We are not the highest paid on the island either. Yes when you start you do not make that much but that is the case with every profession. On top of that, they get stipends for everything extra that they do so their salary is increased. While respect every single teacher and think their job is very important, they are getting paid a fair wage. If you are talking outside of Long Island, then that is different conversation but where ever they work, the salary averages are always available to see and they would know that before going down that career path or taking a job.
I’m OK with the teacher salaries because I think they do so much and most of it is unseen.
I do have an issue with the excessive pay and excessive amount of administrator salaries there are on LI. Especially special education admin, which seem to be pretty problematic across the board here.
I don't agree with the special ed part because the one in my district is worth every penny. Totally agree with that vast amount of administrators and many of them making well over 300,000. That is a problem across the island.
I should have clarified. I meant the amount of parents I see spending tons of money on special ed advocates and educational lawyers just to get their special ed admin to listen is sinful.
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JennP
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Re: There Are Jobs in the Hamptons. If Only Workers Could Afford The Rent.
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by LittleDiva
I can’t quote everything.
But where does everyone think the money is coming from?? Prices and cost of living are just going to sore. There is a reason things cost so much more compared to 20 years ago.
These are JOBS. And for anyone who has no choice but to support their family on a minimum wage job there are plenty of programs out there to help them.
Teach kids actual skills to help them succeed in life….finance or basic money classes, budgeting classes, job interviewing/resume building, home improvement classes, trades, cut the crap that is completely useless in life. EDUCATION is key….especially the 11/12th grade kids who have no intentions of going to college. Stop the cycle and give these kids direction in life.
No one seems to ever answer that and raising the minimum wage doesn’t always mean people will make more money as companies need to cut their hours to afford to pay that much.
Studies show minimum wage workers generally spend any extra they make, so it goes back into the economy, raising sales at many of the types of establishments that would have to pay their workers more.
Cost of living has "soared" plenty with stagnant wages. Let's see that people get a piece of the pie this time.
Besides, there is no evidence that prices will "soar" when minimum wage increases by any significant amount. It's not like this hasn't been done before.
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| Posted 6/30/21 5:43 PM |
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Re: There Are Jobs in the Hamptons. If Only Workers Could Afford The Rent.
Posted by JennP
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by LittleDiva
I can’t quote everything.
But where does everyone think the money is coming from?? Prices and cost of living are just going to sore. There is a reason things cost so much more compared to 20 years ago.
These are JOBS. And for anyone who has no choice but to support their family on a minimum wage job there are plenty of programs out there to help them.
Teach kids actual skills to help them succeed in life….finance or basic money classes, budgeting classes, job interviewing/resume building, home improvement classes, trades, cut the crap that is completely useless in life. EDUCATION is key….especially the 11/12th grade kids who have no intentions of going to college. Stop the cycle and give these kids direction in life.
No one seems to ever answer that and raising the minimum wage doesn’t always mean people will make more money as companies need to cut their hours to afford to pay that much.
Studies show minimum wage workers generally spend any extra they make, so it goes back into the economy, raising sales at many of the types of establishments that would have to pay their workers more.
Cost of living has "soared" plenty with stagnant wages. Let's see that people get a piece of the pie this time.
Besides, there is no evidence that prices will "soar" when minimum wage increases by any significant amount. It's not like this hasn't been done before.
There have been many businesses that have come out to say they can’t afford to pay their employees $15 an hour AND keep their hours so yes, it is a problem with many places.
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BFNY516
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Re: There Are Jobs in the Hamptons. If Only Workers Could Afford The Rent.
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by JennP
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by LittleDiva
I can’t quote everything.
But where does everyone think the money is coming from?? Prices and cost of living are just going to sore. There is a reason things cost so much more compared to 20 years ago.
These are JOBS. And for anyone who has no choice but to support their family on a minimum wage job there are plenty of programs out there to help them.
Teach kids actual skills to help them succeed in life….finance or basic money classes, budgeting classes, job interviewing/resume building, home improvement classes, trades, cut the crap that is completely useless in life. EDUCATION is key….especially the 11/12th grade kids who have no intentions of going to college. Stop the cycle and give these kids direction in life.
No one seems to ever answer that and raising the minimum wage doesn’t always mean people will make more money as companies need to cut their hours to afford to pay that much.
Studies show minimum wage workers generally spend any extra they make, so it goes back into the economy, raising sales at many of the types of establishments that would have to pay their workers more.
Cost of living has "soared" plenty with stagnant wages. Let's see that people get a piece of the pie this time.
Besides, there is no evidence that prices will "soar" when minimum wage increases by any significant amount. It's not like this hasn't been done before.
There have been many businesses that have come out to say they can’t afford to pay their employees $15 an hour AND keep their hours so yes, it is a problem with many places.
Some would argue that they don’t have a viable business model if they can’t pay minimum wage and that you can’t expect people to work for lower wages just so you can own a business.
Some would say that by stating “So many businesses would go under” means that they are existing only because of their low wage workers.
I’m on the fence with this. When I hear mom & pop businesses, it sounds sweet and that the big mean government is making them close by forcing them to pay all this money to their employees. But many small businesses even here on Long Island have very wealthy families behind them who can afford to pay a living wage.
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Re: There Are Jobs in the Hamptons. If Only Workers Could Afford The Rent.
Posted by BFNY516
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by JennP
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by LittleDiva
I can’t quote everything.
But where does everyone think the money is coming from?? Prices and cost of living are just going to sore. There is a reason things cost so much more compared to 20 years ago.
These are JOBS. And for anyone who has no choice but to support their family on a minimum wage job there are plenty of programs out there to help them.
Teach kids actual skills to help them succeed in life….finance or basic money classes, budgeting classes, job interviewing/resume building, home improvement classes, trades, cut the crap that is completely useless in life. EDUCATION is key….especially the 11/12th grade kids who have no intentions of going to college. Stop the cycle and give these kids direction in life.
No one seems to ever answer that and raising the minimum wage doesn’t always mean people will make more money as companies need to cut their hours to afford to pay that much.
Studies show minimum wage workers generally spend any extra they make, so it goes back into the economy, raising sales at many of the types of establishments that would have to pay their workers more.
Cost of living has "soared" plenty with stagnant wages. Let's see that people get a piece of the pie this time.
Besides, there is no evidence that prices will "soar" when minimum wage increases by any significant amount. It's not like this hasn't been done before.
There have been many businesses that have come out to say they can’t afford to pay their employees $15 an hour AND keep their hours so yes, it is a problem with many places.
Some would argue that they don’t have a viable business model if they can’t pay minimum wage and that you can’t expect people to work for lower wages just so you can own a business.
Some would say that by stating “So many businesses would go under” means that they are existing only because of their low wage workers.
I’m on the fence with this. When I hear mom & pop businesses, it sounds sweet and that the big mean government is making them close by forcing them to pay all this money to their employees. But many small businesses even here on Long Island have very wealthy families behind them who can afford to pay a living wage.
Like whom? Have they been the ones that came out and said it would be difficult for them?
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LittleDiva
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Re: There Are Jobs in the Hamptons. If Only Workers Could Afford The Rent.
Posted by BFNY516
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by JennP
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by LittleDiva
I can’t quote everything.
But where does everyone think the money is coming from?? Prices and cost of living are just going to sore. There is a reason things cost so much more compared to 20 years ago.
These are JOBS. And for anyone who has no choice but to support their family on a minimum wage job there are plenty of programs out there to help them.
Teach kids actual skills to help them succeed in life….finance or basic money classes, budgeting classes, job interviewing/resume building, home improvement classes, trades, cut the crap that is completely useless in life. EDUCATION is key….especially the 11/12th grade kids who have no intentions of going to college. Stop the cycle and give these kids direction in life.
No one seems to ever answer that and raising the minimum wage doesn’t always mean people will make more money as companies need to cut their hours to afford to pay that much.
Studies show minimum wage workers generally spend any extra they make, so it goes back into the economy, raising sales at many of the types of establishments that would have to pay their workers more.
Cost of living has "soared" plenty with stagnant wages. Let's see that people get a piece of the pie this time.
Besides, there is no evidence that prices will "soar" when minimum wage increases by any significant amount. It's not like this hasn't been done before.
There have been many businesses that have come out to say they can’t afford to pay their employees $15 an hour AND keep their hours so yes, it is a problem with many places.
Some would argue that they don’t have a viable business model if they can’t pay minimum wage and that you can’t expect people to work for lower wages just so you can own a business.
Some would say that by stating “So many businesses would go under” means that they are existing only because of their low wage workers.
I’m on the fence with this. When I hear mom & pop businesses, it sounds sweet and that the big mean government is making them close by forcing them to pay all this money to their employees. But many small businesses even here on Long Island have very wealthy families behind them who can afford to pay a living wage.
It’s not that they exist because they pay low wages. It’s because maybe what they are making is fair for what they are doing. And yes, if they overpay their workers how will they make money. Isn’t that the point of taking the risk and owning the business? My friend owns a small party store out east. No way do her college aged employees who are just working this job for the summer deserve more than minimum wage (especially the stories I hear about how lazy they are). She does pay her 2 year round part time employees slightly more.
Let’s not forget about tips they make out east. For every lousy cheap rich person there are two that generously over tip.
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KarenK122
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Re: There Are Jobs in the Hamptons. If Only Workers Could Afford The Rent.
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by BFNY516
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by JennP
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by LittleDiva
I can’t quote everything.
But where does everyone think the money is coming from?? Prices and cost of living are just going to sore. There is a reason things cost so much more compared to 20 years ago.
These are JOBS. And for anyone who has no choice but to support their family on a minimum wage job there are plenty of programs out there to help them.
Teach kids actual skills to help them succeed in life….finance or basic money classes, budgeting classes, job interviewing/resume building, home improvement classes, trades, cut the crap that is completely useless in life. EDUCATION is key….especially the 11/12th grade kids who have no intentions of going to college. Stop the cycle and give these kids direction in life.
No one seems to ever answer that and raising the minimum wage doesn’t always mean people will make more money as companies need to cut their hours to afford to pay that much.
Studies show minimum wage workers generally spend any extra they make, so it goes back into the economy, raising sales at many of the types of establishments that would have to pay their workers more.
Cost of living has "soared" plenty with stagnant wages. Let's see that people get a piece of the pie this time.
Besides, there is no evidence that prices will "soar" when minimum wage increases by any significant amount. It's not like this hasn't been done before.
There have been many businesses that have come out to say they can’t afford to pay their employees $15 an hour AND keep their hours so yes, it is a problem with many places.
Some would argue that they don’t have a viable business model if they can’t pay minimum wage and that you can’t expect people to work for lower wages just so you can own a business.
Some would say that by stating “So many businesses would go under” means that they are existing only because of their low wage workers.
I’m on the fence with this. When I hear mom & pop businesses, it sounds sweet and that the big mean government is making them close by forcing them to pay all this money to their employees. But many small businesses even here on Long Island have very wealthy families behind them who can afford to pay a living wage.
It’s not that they exist because they pay low wages. It’s because maybe what they are making is fair for what they are doing. And yes, if they overpay their workers how will they make money. Isn’t that the point of taking the risk and owning the business? My friend owns a small party store out east. No way do her college aged employees who are just working this job for the summer deserve more than minimum wage (especially the stories I hear about how lazy they are). She does pay her 2 year round part time employees slightly more.
Let’s not forget about tips they make out east. For every lousy cheap rich person there are two that generously over tip.
100% agree.
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There Are Jobs in the Hamptons. If Only Workers Could Afford The Rent.
If employers can't pay their employees $15 an hour and keep their hours , then who is working those extra hours? Another employee that you also have to pay $15 an hour?
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Re: There Are Jobs in the Hamptons. If Only Workers Could Afford The Rent.
The whole restaurant model doesn't work financially. Margins are slim--so much reliance that people will tip, lots of risk. This, and not a lack of talent, is why so many fail. It's not a good model, generally speaking.
Too many things are only affordable/worth it because people are paid too little/off the books.
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NervousNell
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Re: There Are Jobs in the Hamptons. If Only Workers Could Afford The Rent.
Posted by RainyDay
If employers can't pay their employees $15 an hour and keep their hours , then who is working those extra hours? Another employee that you also have to pay $15 an hour?
We were away recently in another state and noticed that some restaurants and bars were closing at 9 pm- every night.
We asked about it at one place because we found it strange that a brew pub would close at 9 pm in a highly touristy area in the summer and they said they didn't have the staff to stay open longer hours.
Whether that meant they couldn't find anyone who wanted to work there, or that they couldn't afford to pay for more hours, I don't know.
But I found it interesting.
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Re: There Are Jobs in the Hamptons. If Only Workers Could Afford The Rent.
Posted by RainyDay
If employers can't pay their employees $15 an hour and keep their hours , then who is working those extra hours? Another employee that you also have to pay $15 an hour?
Exactly. Everyone is gun ho about giving people more money but don’t truly look at the logistics of it all.
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