opinions... because i'm thinking this through

work related.

i'm done with my boss. although he's gotten better at communicating with me and realizing that the problem child is one of the managers and not me... he continues to play head games.

the way he manages his team is the way my mother ran our family. make you feel that everyone is out to get you and the only one you can trust is them. they always keep you off kilter and they make themselves needed by making you feel you can't trust anyone else.

it's gotten so bad that i had a crying breakdown one day. it just brought back so much ******** from the things my mother would do to me.

so, i'm ready for another position in the company.

the young lady who trained me is now working in another dept and text me this morning that there is an admin job where she is. i would be reporting to her. she's good at what she does.

here is the biggest kicker of the job: the hours.
i would start at 11:00PM.
i'm 45. i ain't so spring chicken to be working an overnight shift.

would you throw your hat in the race?

pros:
no more crazy boss
no real traffic
get to know the company from a different perspective
would make it easier to go back to school in 2019
less tied to a desk
i can work in pajamas or workout clothes... yoga pants all day long

i don't have kids to raise or get off to school in the morning

cons:
hours
it's in the dock... it's cold when it's cold and it's hot when it's hot
a little dirtier
no increase in pay... it's a lateral move

thoughts.
thanks.

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I copied this from the other board where I replied....


From someone whose DH worked an overnight shift for our entire marriage, I can tell you, working at night and sleeping in the day has a lot of effects on you both physically and mentally.
Studies have actually shown that people who sleep during the day and are up all night, have more of a propensity to gain weight, it screws with your metabolism, it leads to other health issues as well.
He was always too exhausted to work out when he got home in the morning, and sticking to a healthy eating plan was hard as well.


Mentally too, you are always off- even on his days off, he didn't know whether he was coming or going and trying to sleep at night for his days off was difficult. Then you get used to sleeping at night on your days off and have to go right back to sleeping in the day when you go back.
He was exhausted all the time.

He also didn't sleep well in the day- just the normal household noises, phones ringing, door bells ringing, delivery trucks etc. If nobody is home it's great, but once people get home it's hard to keep the noises down- no matter how hard you try

We barely saw each other... so that's something else to consider if you SO works a day shift.

Just things to think about....

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Sanity is worth a LOT. I would probably take the transfer, and from there, keep an eye out for another position in the company. I wouldn't be able to deal with your current environment for very long.
I had a boss that would always throw us under the bus for everything, and didn't treat us right. I tried to transfer to a different department, but when that didn't happen, I had to leave the company.

It doesn't sound like a position you want to keep for long, but it does sound a lot better than where you are.

If you work from 11 to 7, and can get to sleep by 8am or so, you wake up around 4pm, and you can still have a normal social life, since you're sleeping when most people are working, and you're awake and available when most other people are, too.

ETA:
SIL and BIL have something like this. BIL works overnight, and SIL works during the day. They've been doing that for 17+ years, and they are very happy, and very happy with their arrangement, so it can work for some people.

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opinions... because i'm thinking this through

thank you for the perspectives.

also, i just "have to" stick with the position for one year before i can apply for something else in the company... or even another opco.

opinions... because i'm thinking this through

I personally wouldn't. I think working an overnight shift for no increase in pay would be too much of a lifestyle change for it to be worthwhile.

opinions... because i'm thinking this through

Mentally I think you probably should do it.
From the pay point of view, not sure it would be worth it without some night differential.

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at 45 I would not consider overnights. My DH did overnights in retail when we were in our 20s and it was bad. I dont know how people do it.

I'd start looking for something else outside this company if it is that bad with your manager.

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opinions... because i'm thinking this through

Apply for the position. You can always look elsewhere too during that year if you really hate it.

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Honestly, it would be hard to do overnights.
I'm a morning person so I would never be able to do overnights.
Is SO going to give you $hit about it too ?

You overcame your mom's $hit, you can overcome this manager.
You know the games he plays, so play along, do what you have to and what you know is right.
But, look for something else outside the company or in a different department that would be better suited for you.

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I would take the job because I have worked for a toxic boss before and would not want to experience that again.

My husband works overnights as well 11pm-7am. He sleeps when he gets home, and wakes up in the afternoon. We still have time together at dinnertime and before he has to leave for work.

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My neighbor does night shift and his wife works during the day. He loves it, he’s able to sleep when everyone is at work/school and then he eats/hangs out with them. So she’s sleeping while he’s working, and he’s sleeping while she’s working. She jokes that it’s better since he was a bad snorer lol, and he says that if he works out right after work, it gets him tired enough to go to bed, otherwise he gets a second wind after his shift.

I don’t think DH and I could do this, but it definitely works for a lot of people. My DH worked with a toxic boss years ago, and it truly took a toll on him, so I would have encouraged him to find anything else at that point.

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I do not think that I could work overnight. I feel like a bad boss is better because once you're home, you're home. Working overnight requires an entire change in lifestyle.