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Newfoundland Puppy insight and tips:UPDATED with more questions
I finally broke down and allowed my DH to get the kids a puppy for Christmas (magical, it better be the most f*cking magical Christmas ever).
I haven't had a puppy in years and when I did I was a self absorbed teen who had nothing to do with its training and upbringing.
So any tips/tricks or good things to know?
Its a Newfoundland Landseer (slightly bred down, so its going to be close to 80lbs as an adult
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UPDATE:
kids are pumped, christmas kind of rocked. Puppy is so sweet and chill.
Now we are trying to potty train. We crate her at night and she goes to sleep but wakes up every 3 hours or so to pee. After I bring her out, should i put her right back in her crate or hang out with her for a little bit?
How long until they can go through the night without waking up?
If she pees in the house, I've just been picking her up and bringing her outside. Is there anything i'm supposed to say or do to reinforce that its not good?
can she be around other dogs? we go to the vet next week...
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chilltocam
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Puppy insight and tips
Congratulations!
I am a big believer in crate training - it really works great, and if done right, makes for a safe place for the puppy to feel comfortable and gives him a place to go when he wants a break. Housebreaking can be hard - especially in the winter, but it usually doesn't take too long before they "get it." Just be consistent with all training and try to be patient
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Momma2015
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Re: Puppy insight and tips
Posted by chilltocam
Congratulations!
I am a big believer in crate training - it really works great, and if done right, makes for a safe place for the puppy to feel comfortable and gives him a place to go when he wants a break. Housebreaking can be hard - especially in the winter, but it usually doesn't take too long before they "get it." Just be consistent with all training and try to be patient
Totally agree with this. Unfortunately, you're going to need a HUGE crate for this guy. Since he'll be small now, I suggest getting an extra large crate with a divider to make it smaller so he can use it now. The crate should give him just enough room to turn around, otherwise they pee and poop in the crate and it defeats the whole purpose. Good luck! 
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pjt212301
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Like the other posters, I agree with the crate training but also, I recommend more formal training too. Petsmart/Petco are all could choices and will provide the dog with some socialization.
BTW - never heard of this dog and had to look up - what a cutie!!! Enjoy every minute:)
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PhyllisNJoe
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Re: Puppy insight and tips
I agree with the PP
The crate is a wonderful training tool.
Dog is only out of the crate when supervised to be able to correct bad behavior. If you want him out of crate a bit more, mee a leash on him and keep on your wrist so he doesn't wander. I did this with my Rottweiler. I didn't want her crated too many hours day but couldn't watch her every move. So I would leash her while I cooked dinner or worked on the computer.
Formal training is also a good idea with large breed dogs.
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GoldenRod
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Re: Puppy insight and tips
Congrats! 
There are two "types" of Landseers, apparently... According to the Wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landseer_(dog) , the Landseer (European Continental Type) is a dog breed. The breed is not recognized by all kennel clubs[citation needed]. It is not to be confused with a white and black Newfoundland, which is also often called a "landseer". The Landseer E.C.T. (European Continental Type) is a separate breed and recognized as such by the Fédération Cynologique Internationale.
Since you're not breeding, I don't think it makes any difference. When looking at the different photos, I couldn't tell the difference, and it's a mixed breed anyway, so it won't look like the standard.
They appear to be very intelligent, loyal, and calm dogs.
We have a 75lb Staffordshire Terrier(Pitbull)/Pointer mix. I like the larger dogs (not the huge ones, just "larger"). They are big enough that you can rest your head on their chest when they are lying on the floor in front of the TV, but you can still (barely) pick them up briefly if needed...
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shadows
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No real advice (other than crate training like everyone said) but please post a pic of this cutie when you get him!
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MrsQ0520
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Congrats! those are great dogs! Huge, but great dogs!
I agree with everyone on crate training. we have a lab mix (part pit i believe) who is around 60 lbs. we had a big crate and divided it for her when she was a pup. we also blocked certain parts of the house we didn't want her in while she was out of hte crate and we were home. to this day, she RARELY goes in the rooms we originally blocked off.
have patience when housebreaking. I swear that's the most annoying part. I felt like I was constantly cleaning up accidents.. and one day, she just "got it".
we also took her to a training class that worked wonders for certain things.
walking on a leash was our biggest issue with her, but she got better over time.
oh - and invest in a good vacuum - you will need it with all the pet hair haha
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Laura1976
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Re: Puppy insight and tips:UPDATED with more questions
bumping for updated questions
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Re: Puppy insight and tips:UPDATED with more questions
Is she waking to pee or do you assume that's what she wants when she cries?
Try letting her cry and if there's an accident in the crate in the Morning, then try to shorten her night by letting her out as late as possible and as early as possibly in the am.
If you do take her out during the night (you really shouldn't get her used to this. She won't learn to hold it) she goes right back into the crate. This isn't play time.
They say they can hold it for as many months in age they are. If she's 3 mo, she can hold for 3-4 hrs. But bigger dogs can hold it longer (bigger bladders).
Dont leave water out for her all day. She drinks when she eats. Controlled consumption allows you to train easier.
Her last drink should be about 2 -3 hrs before bed. She should go out to pee right before going in the crate for the night. If you do that, she should hold it for 6-7 hrs without an issue. The crate is teaching her how to hold it. If u take her out during the night, she isn't learning to control her bladder.
If she goes in the house, you can only reprimand her if you see her doing it. If u just find a puddle, she already forgot it. If she squats and u see it. NO! And take her outside.
Again, don't leave water down. This will allow you to time her potty habits better to get her out more.
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BabyBearA
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Puppy insight and tips:UPDATED with more questions
I crate trained at night too. I would let him out before we went to sleep around 10 and left a wee wee pad in the crate for the first couple of weeks. If he had to go, he would go there. They don't like to pee and poop where they sleep so it didn't last long. One time he pooped through the hole in the crate lol. At first I would wake up at 6 just to let him out. Now he can hold it from 10-7. He's 7.5 months now and he hasn't slept in a crate for the last few days bc he got neutered and I leave a wee wee pad in his "room". He has been holding it in for the most part. I think when the cat wakes him up and they play he goes to pee on the pad but otherwise he's good.
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Re: Puppy insight and tips:UPDATED with more questions
I have a big dog too. I crate trained him and he was going the whole night by like 3 or 4 months old. I did the same at night I had to carry him down the stairs and I would always say "go potty". He knows that phrase to this day. He only had accidents in the house when it was my fault. Even though he was trained you can't let them roam the whole house for a long time. Keep them contained to one room when you are home. And crate when you are not home. They see the crate as their home and the one room as their home and they won't pee in it. If they roam the whole house they are likely to pee in other places. I have a male not sure if it's different for a female. But he's almost five and he's amazing. No accidents since he was like 6 months old and like I said it was my fault for letting him roam. Good luck!
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Re: Puppy insight and tips:UPDATED with more questions
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Is she waking to pee or do you assume that's what she wants when she cries?
Try letting her cry and if there's an accident in the crate in the Morning, then try to shorten her night by letting her out as late as possible and as early as possibly in the am.
If you do take her out during the night (you really shouldn't get her used to this. She won't learn to hold it) she goes right back into the crate. This isn't play time.
They say they can hold it for as many months in age they are. If she's 3 mo, she can hold for 3-4 hrs. But bigger dogs can hold it longer (bigger bladders).
Dont leave water out for her all day. She drinks when she eats. Controlled consumption allows you to train easier.
Her last drink should be about 2 -3 hrs before bed. She should go out to pee right before going in the crate for the night. If you do that, she should hold it for 6-7 hrs without an issue. The crate is teaching her how to hold it. If u take her out during the night, she isn't learning to control her bladder.
If she goes in the house, you can only reprimand her if you see her doing it. If u just find a puddle, she already forgot it. If she squats and u see it. NO! And take her outside.
Again, don't leave water down. This will allow you to time her potty habits better to get her out more.
Agree with all this. We never woke at night to let our pup out at we got him when he was just 10 weeks old. He never had accidents overnight. But we would let him out last thing before putting him in the crate and first thing in the morning.
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Laura1976
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Re: Puppy insight and tips:UPDATED with more questions
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Is she waking to pee or do you assume that's what she wants when she cries?
Try letting her cry and if there's an accident in the crate in the Morning, then try to shorten her night by letting her out as late as possible and as early as possibly in the am.
If you do take her out during the night (you really shouldn't get her used to this. She won't learn to hold it) she goes right back into the crate. This isn't play time.
They say they can hold it for as many months in age they are. If she's 3 mo, she can hold for 3-4 hrs. But bigger dogs can hold it longer (bigger bladders).
shes only 9 weeks, so I guess she needs to go every 2 -3 hours. When she wakes during the night I bring her out immediately and she usually pees within a minute of going out.
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Re: Newfoundland Puppy insight and tips:UPDATED with more questions
Posted by Laura1976
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Is she waking to pee or do you assume that's what she wants when she cries?
Try letting her cry and if there's an accident in the crate in the Morning, then try to shorten her night by letting her out as late as possible and as early as possibly in the am.
If you do take her out during the night (you really shouldn't get her used to this. She won't learn to hold it) she goes right back into the crate. This isn't play time.
They say they can hold it for as many months in age they are. If she's 3 mo, she can hold for 3-4 hrs. But bigger dogs can hold it longer (bigger bladders).
shes only 9 weeks, so I guess she needs to go every 2 -3 hours. When she wakes during the night I bring her out immediately and she usually pees within a minute of going out.
Try not taking her out in the middle of the night. As long as she's emprty before going to sleep, she should be holding it longer then 2-3 hrs. If u get her to pee every 3 hrs during the night, she'll always expect this. A friend of ours did this and the dog is 5 and still goes out once in the middle of the night!!
Just try it. Last drink 2-3 hrs before bed. Last time out right before u go to bed. If she cries, let her. Try setting an alarm for 5 hrs and check her. If she holds it 5. She'll hold it 6. As each day passes, it'll get easier.
ETA: do not give her water in her crate. No wee wee pad either. Crate is for sleeping. That's it. Nothing to keep her occupied. When she's in there, the lights go of, she goes to bed. Tire her out before bedtime too. It'll help.
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mami49
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Newfoundland Puppy insight and tips:UPDATED with more questions
So interested in this dog and the bernese!! Would love to hear how it is going. I have 2 children and work. Are they okay at home alone?
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Laura1976
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Re: Newfoundland Puppy insight and tips:UPDATED with more questions
Posted by mami49
So interested in this dog and the bernese!! Would love to hear how it is going. I have 2 children and work. Are they okay at home alone?
Here we are 6 1/2 months and 68lbs later. Brizo is 80 lbs at 8months old. She's a good puppy, we were a little lax with our training but overall she's pretty good. Kids unfortunately lost interest in her within a month so now she's my shadow.
Do a LOT of research on your breeder and the needs of large dogs.
One major point is with large/giant breeds you should not spay or neuter until they are almost 2 years old because it messes with their growth hormones which could negatively impact their bones which are crucial for their size.
How long would you be leaving him/her for? In the beginning they definitely need to go out every couple of hours. We crated until she was 4 months but they get so big that even though we have the biggest size crate, we didn't feel that it was fair to her to be in there for 5-6 hours. So we keep her in the kitchen now.
feel free to pm me with any questions.
pic is at 2 months and now at 8 months!  Image Attachment(s):
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