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Re: Did anyone see this? What Trump has done already....

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71% of American Jews voted for Hillary.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/how-the-faithful-voted-a-preliminary-2016-analysis/



Actually that's a lot less than I would have thought, but I was also surprised to see that a lot of the towns on Long Island that have a higher population of Jews than others (the five towns and Kings Point for example) were predominantly Trump. I would think especially Jews from the NY area would have been Hilary all the way.




It's still a majority. And not a slight one.

LI has long been a red enclave in a blue area. Orthodox Jews, the ones who live in the Five Towns mostly, tend to lean right politically because of religious values. They also tend to be upper middle class/upper class, and therefore among those who benefit from Trump's proposed tax plans.

I would imagine that now that he's appointed Bannon, many of them are at least questioning that decision. Or they've decided to bury their heads in the sand and continue to take their safety for granted.



I know that you think I am arguing with you but I assure you I am not. I am having trouble finding anything that Bannon said that is anti-semetic. I don't know enough about the website to form an opinion yet and I do know he said some pretty horrible things about women and had a domestic abuse incident so I could see how women would be terrified of him. But I'm having trouble finding anything else.

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Re: Did anyone see this? What Trump has done already....

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And do you think Trump isn't going to go golfing? Doesn't he own a lot of golf courses?

They all golf. You'd be a fool to think Trump won't.




Will he go golfing? Probably. Will he go on as many vacations? Probably not.




You do realize that a Presidential "vacation" is not like a vacation for us. He's still on-call 24/7. Just like Trump will have to be when he's on Air Force One every night (yes, I know, hyperbole, but we don't actually know at this point how often), flying back to his tower, or his vacation home. He's stated that he wants to spend plenty of time at Mar-a-Lago, which is his vacation home, as well as not being near most of his staff, and Congress in Washington, like every president since John Adams.

I also question how much of a "worker" he can be when he's immediately aware, and immediately responds to many of the negative tweets, TV comments, newspaper comments, etc., posted about him.

Posted 11/14/16 3:35 PM
 

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Re: Did anyone see this? What Trump has done already....

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The Israeli PM makes the same comments after EVERY election. Literally. Almost word for word.

So.



If he thought Trump was the second coming of Hitler I doubt he would call him to congratulate him though.



OR he's afraid to make a negative statement or not call, because the message that sends is a clear one, and Israel needs America's support.

I'm not sure why you keep arguing that Jews are fine with this. Trust me, the vast majority of us are not.



I'm Jewish, and my family and Jewish friends are actually pretty split. The people that voted for him did so because they want Obamacare repealed, want a tax break, and/or hated Hillary...




Sorta related but not. Did you see a Trump supporter sent Emmy Rossum an antisemetic tweet?!Chat Icon

Posted 11/14/16 3:36 PM
 

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Re: Did anyone see this? What Trump has done already....

Posted by lululu

Posted by MandJZ

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Posted by MandJZ


71% of American Jews voted for Hillary.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/how-the-faithful-voted-a-preliminary-2016-analysis/



Actually that's a lot less than I would have thought, but I was also surprised to see that a lot of the towns on Long Island that have a higher population of Jews than others (the five towns and Kings Point for example) were predominantly Trump. I would think especially Jews from the NY area would have been Hilary all the way.




It's still a majority. And not a slight one.

LI has long been a red enclave in a blue area. Orthodox Jews, the ones who live in the Five Towns mostly, tend to lean right politically because of religious values. They also tend to be upper middle class/upper class, and therefore among those who benefit from Trump's proposed tax plans.

I would imagine that now that he's appointed Bannon, many of them are at least questioning that decision. Or they've decided to bury their heads in the sand and continue to take their safety for granted.



I know that you think I am arguing with you but I assure you I am not. I am having trouble finding anything that Bannon said that is anti-semetic. I don't know enough about the website to form an opinion yet and I do know he said some pretty horrible things about women and had a domestic abuse incident so I could see how women would be terrified of him. But I'm having trouble finding anything else.



Under Bannon, Breitbart published articles that, among other things, referred to one Jewish reporter as a "renegade Jew" and to another Jewish reporter as a "radical, elitist Jew." They also responded to Ben Shapiro, a former Breitbart employee's, claims of their antisemitism by attacking him in a published piece, saying (among other things) "Ben, nobody hates Jews."

Google Bannon antisemitism, or Bannon Breitbart antisemitism, and you'll see dozens of articles that address this.

Posted 11/14/16 3:49 PM
 

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Re: Did anyone see this? What Trump has done already....

Posted by stinger

Posted by TheDivineMrsM

Posted by MandJZ

Posted by lululu

Posted by MandJZ

The Israeli PM makes the same comments after EVERY election. Literally. Almost word for word.

So.



If he thought Trump was the second coming of Hitler I doubt he would call him to congratulate him though.



OR he's afraid to make a negative statement or not call, because the message that sends is a clear one, and Israel needs America's support.

I'm not sure why you keep arguing that Jews are fine with this. Trust me, the vast majority of us are not.



I'm Jewish, and my family and Jewish friends are actually pretty split. The people that voted for him did so because they want Obamacare repealed, want a tax break, and/or hated Hillary...




Sorta related but not. Did you see a Trump supporter sent Emmy Rossum an antisemetic tweet?!Chat Icon



Yes. It was disgusting, had a picture of a concentration camp with the words Trump on the entrance, and he told her the train was coming for her.

This is Trump's America.

Posted 11/14/16 3:51 PM
 

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Re: Did anyone see this? What Trump has done already....

Here's another quote. Charming guy. Can't imagine why his marriage didn't work. “That's one of the unintended consequences of the women's liberation movement––that, in fact, the women that would lead this country would be feminine, they would be pro-family, they would have husbands, they would love their children. They wouldn't be a bunch of dykes that came from the 7 Sisters schools."

Link

Posted 11/14/16 4:10 PM
 

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Did anyone see this? What Trump has done already....

I will say one thing he already did that impressed me was to call the widow of the nypd cop who was recently shot to offer his condolences

Posted 11/14/16 4:13 PM
 

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Re: Did anyone see this? What Trump has done already....

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-14/putin-trump-discussed-ways-to-normalize-u-s-russia-relations

Posted 11/14/16 4:19 PM
 

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Re: Did anyone see this? What Trump has done already....

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-14/putin-trump-discussed-ways-to-normalize-u-s-russia-relations



Except that nobody actually wants relations with Russia. The fact that Putin is eager to work with him only proves what everyone has thought all along.............that Trump has some shady dealings with Russia.

Posted 11/14/16 4:22 PM
 

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Re: Did anyone see this? What Trump has done already....

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-14/putin-trump-discussed-ways-to-normalize-u-s-russia-relations



Except that nobody actually wants relations with Russia. The fact that Putin is eager to work with him only proves what everyone has thought all along.............that Trump has some shady dealings with Russia.



Link please as the only one that I know that had anything shady with Russia was HRC who sold 20% of our Uranium to them.

Posted 11/14/16 4:26 PM
 

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Re: Did anyone see this? What Trump has done already....

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-14/putin-trump-discussed-ways-to-normalize-u-s-russia-relations



Except that nobody actually wants relations with Russia. The fact that Putin is eager to work with him only proves what everyone has thought all along.............that Trump has some shady dealings with Russia.



Link please as the only one that I know that had anything shady with Russia was HRC who sold 20% of our Uranium to them.



Did u not follow along during the election?? Chat Icon

Posted 11/14/16 4:29 PM
 

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-14/putin-trump-discussed-ways-to-normalize-u-s-russia-relations



Except that nobody actually wants relations with Russia. The fact that Putin is eager to work with him only proves what everyone has thought all along.............that Trump has some shady dealings with Russia.



Link please as the only one that I know that had anything shady with Russia was HRC who sold 20% of our Uranium to them.



Do you actually fact check anything that you post?

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Re: Did anyone see this? What Trump has done already....

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-14/putin-trump-discussed-ways-to-normalize-u-s-russia-relations



Except that nobody actually wants relations with Russia. The fact that Putin is eager to work with him only proves what everyone has thought all along.............that Trump has some shady dealings with Russia.



Link please as the only one that I know that had anything shady with Russia was HRC who sold 20% of our Uranium to them.



http://heatst.com/world/exclusive-fbi-granted-fisa-warrant-covering-trump-camps-ties-to-russia/
The FBI has a warrant to look into direct ties with Russia.

http://time.com/4433880/donald-trump-ties-to-russia/
He also wants relations with Russia for financial reasons, which to me, is a huge conflict of interest with him as President, and him as the person who is handing over his financial empire to his kids (and not a blind trust), with several business dealings with Russia.


“The Trump-Russia links beneath the surface are even more extensive,” Max Boot wrote in the Los Angeles Times. “Trump has sought and received funding from Russian investors for his business ventures, especially after most American banks stopped lending to him following his multiple bankruptcies.”



There are quite a few other links to plenty of other stories with a simple Google search of "Trump ties to Russia"

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Thanks Goldenrod....... Our resident fact checker extraordinaire!!! Chat Icon

Posted 11/14/16 4:35 PM
 

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Re: Did anyone see this? What Trump has done already....

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-14/putin-trump-discussed-ways-to-normalize-u-s-russia-relations



Except that nobody actually wants relations with Russia. The fact that Putin is eager to work with him only proves what everyone has thought all along.............that Trump has some shady dealings with Russia.



Link please as the only one that I know that had anything shady with Russia was HRC who sold 20% of our Uranium to them.



Did u not follow along during the election?? Chat Icon



Yep I surely did and it seems you didn't as you have fallen into all the rumors and lies made up to try and knock Trump down. Didn't work.

Posted 11/14/16 4:37 PM
 

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Thanks Goldenrod....... Our resident fact checker extraordinaire!!! Chat Icon



Fact checking about Trump's ties to Russia wasn't much of a challenge... Some times I do have to do some digging, but definitely not for this.... This topic was out in the public for over a year...

Posted 11/14/16 4:38 PM
 

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Re: Did anyone see this? What Trump has done already....

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Posted by Jessiesgirl

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-14/putin-trump-discussed-ways-to-normalize-u-s-russia-relations



Except that nobody actually wants relations with Russia. The fact that Putin is eager to work with him only proves what everyone has thought all along.............that Trump has some shady dealings with Russia.



Link please as the only one that I know that had anything shady with Russia was HRC who sold 20% of our Uranium to them.



Did u not follow along during the election?? Chat Icon



Yep I surely did and it seems you didn't as you have fallen into all the rumors and lies made up to try and knock Trump down. Didn't work.



OK Kellyanne. Time to go back to muzzling your candidate to make sure he doesn't start a twitter war.

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Re: Did anyone see this? What Trump has done already....

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Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by Jessiesgirl

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-14/putin-trump-discussed-ways-to-normalize-u-s-russia-relations



Except that nobody actually wants relations with Russia. The fact that Putin is eager to work with him only proves what everyone has thought all along.............that Trump has some shady dealings with Russia.



Link please as the only one that I know that had anything shady with Russia was HRC who sold 20% of our Uranium to them.



Did u not follow along during the election?? Chat Icon



Yep I surely did and it seems you didn't as you have fallen into all the rumors and lies made up to try and knock Trump down. Didn't work.



OMG!! You're hysterical. Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

Posted 11/14/16 4:38 PM
 

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Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by Jessiesgirl

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-14/putin-trump-discussed-ways-to-normalize-u-s-russia-relations



Except that nobody actually wants relations with Russia. The fact that Putin is eager to work with him only proves what everyone has thought all along.............that Trump has some shady dealings with Russia.



Link please as the only one that I know that had anything shady with Russia was HRC who sold 20% of our Uranium to them.



http://heatst.com/world/exclusive-fbi-granted-fisa-warrant-covering-trump-camps-ties-to-russia/
The FBI has a warrant to look into direct ties with Russia.

http://time.com/4433880/donald-trump-ties-to-russia/
He also wants relations with Russia for financial reasons, which to me, is a huge conflict of interest with him as President, and him as the person who is handing over his financial empire to his kids (and not a blind trust), with several business dealings with Russia.


“The Trump-Russia links beneath the surface are even more extensive,” Max Boot wrote in the Los Angeles Times. “Trump has sought and received funding from Russian investors for his business ventures, especially after most American banks stopped lending to him following his multiple bankruptcies.”



There are quite a few other links to plenty of other stories with a simple Google search of "Trump ties to Russia"



You do notice the dates, right?

Posted 11/14/16 4:38 PM
 

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Re: Did anyone see this? What Trump has done already....

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Posted by Jessiesgirl

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by Jessiesgirl

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-14/putin-trump-discussed-ways-to-normalize-u-s-russia-relations



Except that nobody actually wants relations with Russia. The fact that Putin is eager to work with him only proves what everyone has thought all along.............that Trump has some shady dealings with Russia.



Link please as the only one that I know that had anything shady with Russia was HRC who sold 20% of our Uranium to them.



http://heatst.com/world/exclusive-fbi-granted-fisa-warrant-covering-trump-camps-ties-to-russia/
The FBI has a warrant to look into direct ties with Russia.

http://time.com/4433880/donald-trump-ties-to-russia/
He also wants relations with Russia for financial reasons, which to me, is a huge conflict of interest with him as President, and him as the person who is handing over his financial empire to his kids (and not a blind trust), with several business dealings with Russia.


“The Trump-Russia links beneath the surface are even more extensive,” Max Boot wrote in the Los Angeles Times. “Trump has sought and received funding from Russian investors for his business ventures, especially after most American banks stopped lending to him following his multiple bankruptcies.”



There are quite a few other links to plenty of other stories with a simple Google search of "Trump ties to Russia"



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Re: Did anyone see this? What Trump has done already....

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Thanks Goldenrod....... Our resident fact checker extraordinaire!!! Chat Icon



Fact checking about Trump's ties to Russia wasn't much of a challenge... Some times I do have to do some digging, but definitely not for this.... This topic was out in the public for over a year...




Yep while he was running for president which whom they thought they could say anything and everything and twist it all to help Hillary win.

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Re: Did anyone see this? What Trump has done already....

Posted by Jessiesgirl

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Thanks Goldenrod....... Our resident fact checker extraordinaire!!! Chat Icon



Fact checking about Trump's ties to Russia wasn't much of a challenge... Some times I do have to do some digging, but definitely not for this.... This topic was out in the public for over a year...




Yep while he was running for president which whom they thought they could say anything and everything and twist it all to help Hillary win.



Fine... Here is info about ties to Russia since the 1980's

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-trumps-financial-ties-to-russia-and-his-unusual-flattery-of-vladimir-putin/2016/06/17/dbdcaac8-31a6-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html


...
Trump’s relationship with Putin and his warm views toward Russia, which began in the 1980s when the country was still part of the Soviet Union...



The overwhelming consensus among American political and national security leaders has held that Putin is a pariah who disregards human rights and has violated international norms in seeking to regain influence and territory in the former Soviet bloc. In 2012, one year before Trump brought his beauty pageant to Moscow, then-Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney called Russia the United States’ top geopolitical threat — an assessment that has only gained currency since then.

Trump has conveyed a different view, informed in part through his business ambitions. Since the 1980s, Trump and his family members have made numerous trips to Moscow in search of business opportunities, and they have relied on Russian investors to buy their properties around the world.



“Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,” Trump’s son, Donald Jr., told a real estate conference in 2008, according to an account posted on the website of eTurboNews, a trade publication. “We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”


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Posted 11/14/16 4:45 PM
 

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Re: Did anyone see this? What Trump has done already....

Posted by GoldenRod

Posted by Jessiesgirl

Posted by GoldenRod

Posted by Hofstra26

Thanks Goldenrod....... Our resident fact checker extraordinaire!!! Chat Icon



Fact checking about Trump's ties to Russia wasn't much of a challenge... Some times I do have to do some digging, but definitely not for this.... This topic was out in the public for over a year...




Yep while he was running for president which whom they thought they could say anything and everything and twist it all to help Hillary win.



Fine... Here is info about ties to Russia since the 1980's

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-trumps-financial-ties-to-russia-and-his-unusual-flattery-of-vladimir-putin/2016/06/17/dbdcaac8-31a6-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html


...
Trump’s relationship with Putin and his warm views toward Russia, which began in the 1980s when the country was still part of the Soviet Union...



The overwhelming consensus among American political and national security leaders has held that Putin is a pariah who disregards human rights and has violated international norms in seeking to regain influence and territory in the former Soviet bloc. In 2012, one year before Trump brought his beauty pageant to Moscow, then-Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney called Russia the United States’ top geopolitical threat — an assessment that has only gained currency since then.

Trump has conveyed a different view, informed in part through his business ambitions. Since the 1980s, Trump and his family members have made numerous trips to Moscow in search of business opportunities, and they have relied on Russian investors to buy their properties around the world.



“Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,” Trump’s son, Donald Jr., told a real estate conference in 2008, according to an account posted on the website of eTurboNews, a trade publication. “We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”





I guess Don Jr just lied when he said they have no business ties over there.

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Posted 11/14/16 4:49 PM
 

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Re: Did anyone see this? What Trump has done already....

Posted by Jessiesgirl

Posted by GoldenRod

Posted by Jessiesgirl

Posted by GoldenRod

Posted by Hofstra26

Thanks Goldenrod....... Our resident fact checker extraordinaire!!! Chat Icon



Fact checking about Trump's ties to Russia wasn't much of a challenge... Some times I do have to do some digging, but definitely not for this.... This topic was out in the public for over a year...




Yep while he was running for president which whom they thought they could say anything and everything and twist it all to help Hillary win.



Fine... Here is info about ties to Russia since the 1980's

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-trumps-financial-ties-to-russia-and-his-unusual-flattery-of-vladimir-putin/2016/06/17/dbdcaac8-31a6-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html


...
Trump’s relationship with Putin and his warm views toward Russia, which began in the 1980s when the country was still part of the Soviet Union...



The overwhelming consensus among American political and national security leaders has held that Putin is a pariah who disregards human rights and has violated international norms in seeking to regain influence and territory in the former Soviet bloc. In 2012, one year before Trump brought his beauty pageant to Moscow, then-Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney called Russia the United States’ top geopolitical threat — an assessment that has only gained currency since then.

Trump has conveyed a different view, informed in part through his business ambitions. Since the 1980s, Trump and his family members have made numerous trips to Moscow in search of business opportunities, and they have relied on Russian investors to buy their properties around the world.



“Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,” Trump’s son, Donald Jr., told a real estate conference in 2008, according to an account posted on the website of eTurboNews, a trade publication. “We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”





I guess Don Jr just lied when he said they have no business ties over there.



Oh yes, Don Jr...................the poster boy for honest, good old, American boy. Seriously, I have a bridge to sell you. Are you interested??? Chat Icon

Posted 11/14/16 4:53 PM
 

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Re: Did anyone see this? What Trump has done already....

Posted by Jessiesgirl

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by Jessiesgirl

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-14/putin-trump-discussed-ways-to-normalize-u-s-russia-relations



Except that nobody actually wants relations with Russia. The fact that Putin is eager to work with him only proves what everyone has thought all along.............that Trump has some shady dealings with Russia.



Link please as the only one that I know that had anything shady with Russia was HRC who sold 20% of our Uranium to them.



Another easy "fact" by the right-wing media that is easily debunked...

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jun/30/donald-trump/donald-trump-inaccurately-suggests-clinton-got-pai/

The Kremlin’s 2010 purchase of a controlling stake in Uranium One had to be approved by the nine members of the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States.

That included Clinton as secretary of state, but also the secretaries of the Treasury (the chairman of the committee), Defense, Justice, Commerce, Energy and Homeland Security as well as the the heads of the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative and the Office of Science and Technology Policy. The deal also had to be okayed by the independent Nuclear Regulatory Commission as well as Utah’s nuclear regulator.



Most of the US departments agreed to this deal, not just HRC, so laying any kind of exaggerated "blame" on her is just another smear campaign, and you have fallen into all the rumors and lies made up to knock Hillary down.

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