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olive98
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Re: How much is your Salary?
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by tagkit
Posted by afternoondelight828
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by Lara&Aidansmommy
Posted by tagkit
I feel like such a loser lol
Before i was a sahm. I made pennies and worked full time. I feel like a loser too
You shouldn't...
Everything is relative. Just because someone makes more $$ doesn't mean they are better off financially and/or more happy then someone who makes less.
At the end of the day if you are able to live off your salary and are happy with your job, that is all that matters
I think the problem is that some people put in a long amount of time at jobs, work their butts off and try to move ahead and never do. Sometimes the pro's of the job overtake the con's and they stay. When they find out how much others make by not fighting as hard for promotions and not working as hard, it is depressing.
Exactly this!
I just wanted to comment on "working hard" and moving ahead.
Let me just preface this by saying that sometimes, despite ALL other factors, a person is in a field that is just tough and doesn't offer a lot of potential for growth and big incomes. I totally get that. 100%. No question.
But in general, I do think some people (NOT directed at anyone on this thread) make the simplistic correlation that the the "harder" you work the more you should be paid. I think that many people, if not most people, "work hard" at their job.............I don't doubt that for a minute. But that being said, there is more to career success than just "working hard". I've seen this firsthand with my DH. Even he will tell you, working hard is the easy part. It's everything else that is the challenge.
Aside from working hard, there are factors such as:
- your people skills
- your organizational skills
- your task management skills
- your leadership skills
- your years of experience
- your level of expertise
- your professionalism
- Your presentation skills
- your communication skills
- your teamwork ability
- your ability to work under pressure
- your problem solving abilities
- your specialization within your field
- your visibility within the company
- how people within your company perceive you
.....................and SO many more that ALL play a TREMENDOUS (and crucial) role in one's career success.
My DH has 8-10 electrical engineers that directly report to him and while many of them are "hard workers" and do a really good job they don't possess enough of the other skills necessary to excel into the big money roles within his company. And there is NOTHING wrong with that, it doesn't in any way discount their hard work and the role they play in the company's success. It's just that only a very select few people (in any field) will really have what it takes to be in those upper management, big $$$ roles such as Manager, Director, VP, or even CEO. That is why these positions with bigger salaries are harder to come by and harder to get.
Being a hard worker is a wonderful AND admirable attribute but it's not the only thing needed to get the big promotions and the big money. Being hard working alone won't be enough to propel your career forward. While I understand that every career field is different, I think you'll find this to be the case in most circumstances.
Anyway, I just wanted to comment because I so often see people saying they "work so hard" but it doesn't get them anywhere. I just think sometimes people tend to overlook the other things that go into excelling within a chosen career path. That's all.
ETA - spelling
ITA!
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Re: How much is your Salary?
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by tagkit
Posted by afternoondelight828
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by Lara&Aidansmommy
Posted by tagkit
I feel like such a loser lol
Before i was a sahm. I made pennies and worked full time. I feel like a loser too
You shouldn't...
Everything is relative. Just because someone makes more $$ doesn't mean they are better off financially and/or more happy then someone who makes less.
At the end of the day if you are able to live off your salary and are happy with your job, that is all that matters
I think the problem is that some people put in a long amount of time at jobs, work their butts off and try to move ahead and never do. Sometimes the pro's of the job overtake the con's and they stay. When they find out how much others make by not fighting as hard for promotions and not working as hard, it is depressing.
Exactly this!
I just wanted to comment on "working hard" and moving ahead.
Let me just preface this by saying that sometimes, despite ALL other factors, a person is in a field that is just tough and doesn't offer a lot of potential for growth and big incomes. I totally get that. 100%. No question.
But in general, I do think some people (NOT directed at anyone on this thread) make the simplistic correlation that the the "harder" you work the more you should be paid. I think that many people, if not most people, "work hard" at their job.............I don't doubt that for a minute. But that being said, there is more to career success than just "working hard". I've seen this firsthand with my DH. Even he will tell you, working hard is the easy part. It's everything else that is the challenge.
Aside from working hard, there are factors such as:
- your people skills
- your organizational skills
- your task management skills
- your leadership skills
- your years of experience
- your level of expertise
- your professionalism
- Your presentation skills
- your communication skills
- your teamwork ability
- your ability to work under pressure
- your problem solving abilities
- your specialization within your field
- your visibility within the company
- how people within your company perceive you
.....................and SO many more that ALL play a TREMENDOUS (and crucial) role in one's career success.
My DH has 8-10 electrical engineers that directly report to him and while many of them are "hard workers" and do a really good job they don't possess enough of the other skills necessary to excel into the big money roles within his company. And there is NOTHING wrong with that, it doesn't in any way discount their hard work and the role they play in the company's success. It's just that only a very select few people (in any field) will really have what it takes to be in those upper management, big $$$ roles such as Manager, Director, VP, or even CEO. That is why these positions with bigger salaries are harder to come by and harder to get.
Being a hard worker is a wonderful AND admirable attribute but it's not the only thing needed to get the big promotions and the big money. Being hard working alone won't be enough to propel your career forward. While I understand that every career field is different, I think you'll find this to be the case in most circumstances.
Anyway, I just wanted to comment because I so often see people saying they "work so hard" but it doesn't get them anywhere. I just think sometimes people tend to overlook the other things that go into excelling within a chosen career path. That's all.
ETA - spelling
Thanks and yes ITA with this.
Some people DO have more than just "working hard" though (the list you provided) and still get pushed aside for promotions. These are the people who are upset the most.
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| Posted 10/19/15 1:50 PM |
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tagkit
LIF Infant
Member since 10/12 361 total posts
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Re: How much is your Salary?
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by tagkit
Posted by afternoondelight828
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by Lara&Aidansmommy
Posted by tagkit
I feel like such a loser lol
Before i was a sahm. I made pennies and worked full time. I feel like a loser too
You shouldn't...
Everything is relative. Just because someone makes more $$ doesn't mean they are better off financially and/or more happy then someone who makes less.
At the end of the day if you are able to live off your salary and are happy with your job, that is all that matters
I think the problem is that some people put in a long amount of time at jobs, work their butts off and try to move ahead and never do. Sometimes the pro's of the job overtake the con's and they stay. When they find out how much others make by not fighting as hard for promotions and not working as hard, it is depressing.
Exactly this!
I just wanted to comment on "working hard" and moving ahead.
Let me just preface this by saying that sometimes, despite ALL other factors, a person is in a field that is just tough and doesn't offer a lot of potential for growth and big incomes. I totally get that. 100%. No question.
But in general, I do think some people (NOT directed at anyone on this thread) make the simplistic correlation that the the "harder" you work the more you should be paid. I think that many people, if not most people, "work hard" at their job.............I don't doubt that for a minute. But that being said, there is more to career success than just "working hard". I've seen this firsthand with my DH. Even he will tell you, working hard is the easy part. It's everything else that is the challenge.
Aside from working hard, there are factors such as:
- your people skills
- your organizational skills
- your task management skills
- your leadership skills
- your years of experience
- your level of expertise
- your professionalism
- Your presentation skills
- your communication skills
- your teamwork ability
- your ability to work under pressure
- your problem solving abilities
- your specialization within your field
- your visibility within the company
- how people within your company perceive you
.....................and SO many more that ALL play a TREMENDOUS (and crucial) role in one's career success.
My DH has 8-10 electrical engineers that directly report to him and while many of them are "hard workers" and do a really good job they don't possess enough of the other skills necessary to excel into the big money roles within his company. And there is NOTHING wrong with that, it doesn't in any way discount their hard work and the role they play in the company's success. It's just that only a very select few people (in any field) will really have what it takes to be in those upper management, big $$$ roles such as Manager, Director, VP, or even CEO. That is why these positions with bigger salaries are harder to come by and harder to get.
Being a hard worker is a wonderful AND admirable attribute but it's not the only thing needed to get the big promotions and the big money. Being hard working alone won't be enough to propel your career forward. While I understand that every career field is different, I think you'll find this to be the case in most circumstances.
Anyway, I just wanted to comment because I so often see people saying they "work so hard" but it doesn't get them anywhere. I just think sometimes people tend to overlook the other things that go into excelling within a chosen career path. That's all.
ETA - spelling
Absolutely, I think it is just frustrating when people who excel just because theyre well lets just say good talkers, b's-ers etc LOL....The field that I am in , thats exactly what most of them are.
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| Posted 10/19/15 1:52 PM |
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Hofstra26
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Re: How much is your Salary?
Posted by tagkit
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by tagkit
Posted by afternoondelight828
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by Lara&Aidansmommy
Posted by tagkit
I feel like such a loser lol
Before i was a sahm. I made pennies and worked full time. I feel like a loser too
You shouldn't...
Everything is relative. Just because someone makes more $$ doesn't mean they are better off financially and/or more happy then someone who makes less.
At the end of the day if you are able to live off your salary and are happy with your job, that is all that matters
I think the problem is that some people put in a long amount of time at jobs, work their butts off and try to move ahead and never do. Sometimes the pro's of the job overtake the con's and they stay. When they find out how much others make by not fighting as hard for promotions and not working as hard, it is depressing.
Exactly this!
I just wanted to comment on "working hard" and moving ahead.
Let me just preface this by saying that sometimes, despite ALL other factors, a person is in a field that is just tough and doesn't offer a lot of potential for growth and big incomes. I totally get that. 100%. No question.
But in general, I do think some people (NOT directed at anyone on this thread) make the simplistic correlation that the the "harder" you work the more you should be paid. I think that many people, if not most people, "work hard" at their job.............I don't doubt that for a minute. But that being said, there is more to career success than just "working hard". I've seen this firsthand with my DH. Even he will tell you, working hard is the easy part. It's everything else that is the challenge.
Aside from working hard, there are factors such as:
- your people skills
- your organizational skills
- your task management skills
- your leadership skills
- your years of experience
- your level of expertise
- your professionalism
- Your presentation skills
- your communication skills
- your teamwork ability
- your ability to work under pressure
- your problem solving abilities
- your specialization within your field
- your visibility within the company
- how people within your company perceive you
.....................and SO many more that ALL play a TREMENDOUS (and crucial) role in one's career success.
My DH has 8-10 electrical engineers that directly report to him and while many of them are "hard workers" and do a really good job they don't possess enough of the other skills necessary to excel into the big money roles within his company. And there is NOTHING wrong with that, it doesn't in any way discount their hard work and the role they play in the company's success. It's just that only a very select few people (in any field) will really have what it takes to be in those upper management, big $$$ roles such as Manager, Director, VP, or even CEO. That is why these positions with bigger salaries are harder to come by and harder to get.
Being a hard worker is a wonderful AND admirable attribute but it's not the only thing needed to get the big promotions and the big money. Being hard working alone won't be enough to propel your career forward. While I understand that every career field is different, I think you'll find this to be the case in most circumstances.
Anyway, I just wanted to comment because I so often see people saying they "work so hard" but it doesn't get them anywhere. I just think sometimes people tend to overlook the other things that go into excelling within a chosen career path. That's all.
ETA - spelling
Absolutely, I think it is just frustrating when people who excel just because theyre well lets just say good talkers, b's-ers etc LOL....The field that I am in , thats exactly what most of them are.
I understand. Unfortunately, those types exist too.
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| Posted 10/19/15 1:53 PM |
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Pumpkin1
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How much is your Salary?
I think there is a level of frustration where people work hard and are not rewarded with COL raises. In that case, for many people (especially with rising insurance costs), people are making less money by staying than moving on to somewhere else.
Message edited 10/19/2015 2:16:34 PM.
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JandJ1224
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Re: How much is your Salary?
I am impressed by the number of high earners. I think its great!
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| Posted 10/19/15 3:03 PM |
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b2b777
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Re: How much is your Salary?
Posted by JandJ1224
I am impressed by the number of high earners. I think its great!
Me too. Especially since most of the people on this board are women. Yahoo!
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| Posted 10/19/15 3:31 PM |
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Re: How much is your Salary?
Posted by afternoondelight828
Thanks and yes ITA with this.
Some people DO have more than just "working hard" though (the list you provided) and still get pushed aside for promotions. These are the people who are upset the most.
Ditto. Also, OFFICE POLITICS. I see it everywhere I have worked. My immediate boss has less "experience" than many other attorneys in our firm (admitted to the bar in 1995 vs. some senior attorneys who've been admitted since 1982) but she earns more precisely because she is good at schmoozing the clients, always being available and friendly to everyone, and general butt-kissing at the right time.
Its situations like this that separates those who rise to the top and those who don't. Has nothing to with "hard work" or "how qualified you may be for the top job". Its all about timing and impressing the right person you are the "right fit" for the top role.
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| Posted 10/19/15 4:27 PM |
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Kitten1929
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Re: How much is your Salary?
Posted by EclecticEsq10810
Posted by afternoondelight828
Thanks and yes ITA with this.
Some people DO have more than just "working hard" though (the list you provided) and still get pushed aside for promotions. These are the people who are upset the most.
Ditto. Also, OFFICE POLITICS. I see it everywhere I have worked. My immediate boss has less "experience" than many other attorneys in our firm (admitted to the bar in 1995 vs. some senior attorneys who've been admitted since 1982) but she earns more precisely because she is good at schmoozing the clients, always being available and friendly to everyone, and general butt-kissing at the right time.
Its situations like this that separates those who rise to the top and those who don't. Has nothing to with "hard work" or "how qualified you may be for the top job". Its all about timing and impressing the right person you are the "right fit" for the top role.
I agree - my boss is a partner and gets paid buckets of money but he is literally a workaholic. He sleeps maybe 3 hours a night, travels constantly, and has to fulfill those kind of partnership obligations with endless meetings, phone calls, staying abreast of trends, knowing minute details of a current job at the drop of a hat. I couldn't do that kind of work even if they paid me millions.
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| Posted 10/19/15 5:00 PM |
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StaceyWill
It's a girl!!!
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Re: How much is your Salary?
Posted by b2b777
Posted by JandJ1224
I am impressed by the number of high earners. I think its great!
Me too. Especially since most of the people on this board are women. Yahoo!
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| Posted 10/19/15 6:03 PM |
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StarsStripes
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How much is your Salary?
Hey SAHM, don't feel like losers for not making money, that is absolutely ridiculous. I would gladly give up my 100K + job to stay at home with my kids full time...I am envious of you!!!!
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| Posted 10/19/15 8:14 PM |
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shadows
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Re: How much is your Salary?
Posted by EclecticEsq10810
Posted by afternoondelight828
Thanks and yes ITA with this.
Some people DO have more than just "working hard" though (the list you provided) and still get pushed aside for promotions. These are the people who are upset the most.
Ditto. Also, OFFICE POLITICS. I see it everywhere I have worked. My immediate boss has less "experience" than many other attorneys in our firm (admitted to the bar in 1995 vs. some senior attorneys who've been admitted since 1982) but she earns more precisely because she is good at schmoozing the clients, always being available and friendly to everyone, and general butt-kissing at the right time.
Its situations like this that separates those who rise to the top and those who don't. Has nothing to with "hard work" or "how qualified you may be for the top job". Its all about timing and impressing the right person you are the "right fit" for the top role.
Yep. And this seems to be so prevalent in law firms. Schmoozing and azz-kissing goes a looong way. 
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| Posted 10/19/15 8:39 PM |
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Leb
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Re: How much is your Salary?
Posted by StarsStripes
Hey SAHM, don't feel like losers for not making money, that is absolutely ridiculous. I would gladly give up my 100K + job to stay at home with my kids full time...I am envious of you!!!!
Agreed! I wish I could afford to quit and and stay home.
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Re: How much is your Salary?
Posted by StarsStripes
Hey SAHM, don't feel like losers for not making money, that is absolutely ridiculous. I would gladly give up my 100K + job to stay at home with my kids full time...I am envious of you!!!!
ITA with this. I would have no problem if I was making no money and staying home with kids.
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butterfly20
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How much is your Salary?
Well this poll is depressing. In the bottom half of the poll workjing full time and have 2 in daycare full time.
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| Posted 10/20/15 12:59 PM |
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