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Jay Z: I'm being 'demonized' over Barneys deal

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2013/10/26/jay-z-barneys-profiling/3273107/

NEW YORK (AP) — Jay Z — under increasing pressure to back out of a collaboration with the luxury store Barneys New York after it was accused of racially profiling two black customers — said Saturday he's being unfairly "demonized" for just waiting to hear all of the facts.

The rap mogul made his first statement about the controversy in a posting on his website. He has come under fire for remaining silent as news surfaced this week that two young black people said they were profiled by Barneys after they purchased expensive items from their Manhattan store.

An online petition and Twitter messages from fans have been circulating this week, calling on the star to bow out of his upcoming partnership with Barneys for the holiday season, which will have the store selling items by top designers, inspired by Jay Z, with some of the proceeds going to his charity. He is also working with the store to create its artistic holiday window display.

But Jay Z — whose real name is Shawn Carter — defended himself, saying that he hasn't spoken about it because he's still trying to figure out exactly what happened.

"I move and speak based on facts and not emotion," the statement said. "I haven't made any comments because I am waiting on facts and the outcome of a meeting between community leaders and Barneys. Why am I being demonized, denounced and thrown on the cover of a newspaper for not speaking immediately?" he said, referring to local newspaper headlines.

Jay Z — who rose from a life of crime in Brooklyn to become one of the most heralded rappers and one of entertainment's biggest superstars — has in the past called for a boycott of labels perceived to be racist, and has become more political in recent years, from speaking out about the killing of black teenager Trayvon Martin to campaigning for President Obama.

Jay Z said in this case, he's still trying to find out what happened —which is why he was silent.

"The negligent, erroneous reports and attacks on my character, intentions and the spirit of this collaboration have forced me into a statement I didn't want to make without the full facts," he added.

He also dismissed reports that he would profit from the collaboration. He said he's "not making a dime" from working with Barneys. Instead, his Shawn Carter Foundation, which provides college scholarships to economically challenged students, will get 25 percent of all sales from the collaboration.

"This money is going to help individuals facing socio-economic hardships to help further their education at institutions of higher learning," he said. "My idea was born out of creativity and charity… not profit."

He also said that "making a decision prematurely to pull out of this project wouldn't hurt Barneys or Shawn Carter but all the people that stand a chance at higher education," he said. "I have been working with my team ever since the situation was brought to my attention to get to the bottom of these incidents and at the same time find a solution that doesn't harm all those that stand to benefit from this collaboration."

Jay Z said he understood what it felt like to be racially profiled — but also didn't want to jump to unfair conclusions.

"I am against discrimination of any kind but if I make snap judgments, no matter who it's towards, aren't I committing the same sin as someone who profiles?" he asked. "I am no stranger to being profiled and I truly empathize with anyone that has been put in that position. Hopefully this brings forth a dialogue to effect real change."

Posted 10/28/13 12:44 PM
 
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Jay Z: I'm being 'demonized' over Barneys deal

Very well said!

Posted 10/28/13 1:06 PM
 

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Re: Jay Z: I'm being 'demonized' over Barneys deal

Posted by Ayne11

Very well said!



Agreed

Posted 10/28/13 1:37 PM
 

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Jay Z: I'm being 'demonized' over Barneys deal

You're being 'demonized' because you're an idiot. The End.

Just stay quiet. Sorry he irks me and his isnt even a good rapper anymore.lol

Posted 10/28/13 1:57 PM
 

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Jay Z: I'm being 'demonized' over Barneys deal

Oh please this man only cares about money. I used to be a huge fan but his music has fallen off and his wife is a bougie ******

Posted 10/28/13 2:02 PM
 

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Re: Jay Z: I'm being 'demonized' over Barneys deal

Posted by DiamondGirl

Oh please this man only cares about money. I used to be a huge fan but his music has fallen off and his wife is a bougie ******



ha ha My sentiments exactly. see my above post. They annoy me.Chat Icon

Posted 10/28/13 2:20 PM
 

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Re: Jay Z: I'm being 'demonized' over Barneys deal

Posted by kedra5

Posted by Ayne11

Very well said!



Agreed



ITA!

Posted 10/28/13 2:33 PM
 

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Re: Jay Z: I'm being 'demonized' over Barneys deal

Posted by Ayne11

Very well said!


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Posted 10/28/13 2:45 PM
 

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Re: Jay Z: I'm being 'demonized' over Barneys deal

As sad as this is, to me Barney's discriminates against anyone who is not a size zero and is already wearing luxury/designer clothing when they walk into their stores.

Posted 10/28/13 2:53 PM
 

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Re: Jay Z: I'm being 'demonized' over Barneys deal

Posted by LSP2005

As sad as this is, to me Barney's discriminates against anyone who is not a size zero and is already wearing luxury/designer clothing when they walk into their stores.



I hate walking into their store. Chat Icon Heck, I hate going into any luxury retailer despite having the cash to make the purchases, so I just order online. Chat Icon

My DH stopped at Barney's to purchase me a Bal bag one day and the sales associate was a total witch to him. Chat Icon


Posted 10/28/13 7:39 PM
 

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Re: Jay Z: I'm being 'demonized' over Barneys deal

Posted by Chatham-Chick

Posted by LSP2005

As sad as this is, to me Barney's discriminates against anyone who is not a size zero and is already wearing luxury/designer clothing when they walk into their stores.



I hate walking into their store. Chat Icon Heck, I hate going into any luxury retailer despite having the cash to make the purchases, so I just order online. Chat Icon

My DH stopped at Barney's to purchase me a Bal bag one day and the sales associate was a total witch to him. Chat Icon





this always pisses me off you WORK here ***** you aren't even rich WTF. I had the same experience in LV.

Posted 10/28/13 8:09 PM
 

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Re: Jay Z: I'm being 'demonized' over Barneys deal

Posted by Sash

You're being 'demonized' because you're an idiot. The End.

Just stay quiet. Sorry he irks me and his isnt even a good rapper anymore.lol



Why is he an idiot???? Hes actually one of the few rappers that isnt an idiot... and if you read his statement you would
Know hes not one as well. Its actually a well written statement and thought out one. Hes an educated man. Period. His statement wasnt in any way idiotic or ignorant.

Posted 10/29/13 7:28 AM
 

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Re: Jay Z: I'm being 'demonized' over Barneys deal

Posted by DiamondGirl

Oh please this man only cares about money. I used to be a huge fan but his music has fallen off and his wife is a bougie ******


TRUTH. I used to respect him-musically and as a person but the man has changed. He's motivated by money regardless of what he says. He's not the kid from Marcy Projects any more-we get it but one should never forget where they came from.

Posted 10/29/13 7:43 AM
 

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Re: Jay Z: I'm being 'demonized' over Barneys deal

Posted by BlessedMomma

Posted by Sash

You're being 'demonized' because you're an idiot. The End.

Just stay quiet. Sorry he irks me and his isnt even a good rapper anymore.lol



Why is he an idiot???? Hes actually one of the few rappers that isnt an idiot... and if you read his statement you would
Know hes not one as well. Its actually a well written statement and thought out one. Hes an educated man. Period. His statement wasnt in any way idiotic or ignorant.



I don't think he's an idiot BUT his statement is well written and well thought out AND he probably didn't write it. Just sayin' Chat Icon They have hired help for that kind of stuff

Posted 10/29/13 8:59 AM
 

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Re: Jay Z: I'm being 'demonized' over Barneys deal

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Posted by DiamondGirl

Oh please this man only cares about money. I used to be a huge fan but his music has fallen off and his wife is a bougie ******


TRUTH. I used to respect him-musically and as a person but the man has changed. He's motivated by money regardless of what he says. He's not the kid from Marcy Projects any more-we get it but one should never forget where they came from.



I agree. It's all about the money.

Posted 10/29/13 9:51 AM
 

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Jay Z: I'm being 'demonized' over Barneys deal

While his statement was very well said, it's not like he doesn't have the money to just write a check to his foundation & call it a day with Barney's

Posted 10/29/13 9:57 AM
 

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Re: Jay Z: I'm being 'demonized' over Barneys deal

Posted by BlessedMomma

Posted by Sash

You're being 'demonized' because you're an idiot. The End.

Just stay quiet. Sorry he irks me and his isnt even a good rapper anymore.lol



Why is he an idiot???? Hes actually one of the few rappers that isnt an idiot... and if you read his statement you would
Know hes not one as well. Its actually a well written statement and thought out one. Hes an educated man. Period. His statement wasnt in any way idiotic or ignorant.



I agree

Posted 10/29/13 10:07 AM
 

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Re: Jay Z: I'm being 'demonized' over Barneys deal

Posted by forevermylilgirls

Posted by sometimesmommy

Posted by DiamondGirl

Oh please this man only cares about money. I used to be a huge fan but his music has fallen off and his wife is a bougie ******


TRUTH. I used to respect him-musically and as a person but the man has changed. He's motivated by money regardless of what he says. He's not the kid from Marcy Projects any more-we get it but one should never forget where they came from.



I agree. It's all about the money.



Um, for most multi billion dollar business people ......it's all about the money. How do you think they become billionaires? -
I think it's stupid to hold him to some high moral standard - he's a business man.

Posted 10/29/13 10:09 AM
 

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Re: Jay Z: I'm being 'demonized' over Barneys deal

Posted by MarisaK

Posted by forevermylilgirls

Posted by sometimesmommy

Posted by DiamondGirl

Oh please this man only cares about money. I used to be a huge fan but his music has fallen off and his wife is a bougie ******


TRUTH. I used to respect him-musically and as a person but the man has changed. He's motivated by money regardless of what he says. He's not the kid from Marcy Projects any more-we get it but one should never forget where they came from.



I agree. It's all about the money.



Um, for most multi billion dollar business people ......it's all about the money. How do you think they become billionaires? -
I think it's stupid to hold him to some high moral standard - he's a business man.


As someone who knows him-he says one thing but as of late has been doing another...that is all.

Posted 10/29/13 11:21 AM
 

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Re: Jay Z: I'm being 'demonized' over Barneys deal

Posted by BlessedMomma

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You're being 'demonized' because you're an idiot. The End.

Just stay quiet. Sorry he irks me and his isnt even a good rapper anymore.lol



Why is he an idiot???? Hes actually one of the few rappers that isnt an idiot... and if you read his statement you would
Know hes not one as well. Its actually a well written statement and thought out one. Hes an educated man. Period. His statement wasnt in any way idiotic or ignorant.



ITS MY OPINION, I think in general he is an idiot and it has to do with things he has done. I find him arrogant and believe him and his lovely wife Beyonce have a "my sh!t dont stink" attitude. I followed his music & him since the beginning. He is only about the money now and thats why he isnt doing anything about what happened. Just be honest if you're so "gully and gangsta". Same reason he retires, then comes out and then retires again. Same reason why he puts out garbage music, for the paycheck and because he is making money off of his name now not his musical talent anymore. He even had an arrogant beef with Robert Dinero, he is an idiot.

I didnt say he sounded like an idiot nor that he is an idiot because of this statement, I said he is an idiot. As in my opinion. You dont think so, good for you. Sheesh

Posted 10/29/13 2:32 PM
 

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Re: Jay Z: I'm being 'demonized' over Barneys deal

Posted by sometimesmommy

Posted by MarisaK

Posted by forevermylilgirls

Posted by sometimesmommy

Posted by DiamondGirl

Oh please this man only cares about money. I used to be a huge fan but his music has fallen off and his wife is a bougie ******


TRUTH. I used to respect him-musically and as a person but the man has changed. He's motivated by money regardless of what he says. He's not the kid from Marcy Projects any more-we get it but one should never forget where they came from.



I agree. It's all about the money.



Um, for most multi billion dollar business people ......it's all about the money. How do you think they become billionaires? -
I think it's stupid to hold him to some high moral standard - he's a business man.


As someone who knows him-he says one thing but as of late has been doing another...that is all.



Thank you, this is what I meant. I dont know him this is just the sense I get about him. You all about the money fine, but its the way he is. Hard to explain.

Posted 10/29/13 2:34 PM
 

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Posted by MrsA714

Posted by BlessedMomma

Posted by Sash

You're being 'demonized' because you're an idiot. The End.

Just stay quiet. Sorry he irks me and his isnt even a good rapper anymore.lol



Why is he an idiot???? Hes actually one of the few rappers that isnt an idiot... and if you read his statement you would
Know hes not one as well. Its actually a well written statement and thought out one. Hes an educated man. Period. His statement wasnt in any way idiotic or ignorant.



I don't think he's an idiot BUT his statement is well written and well thought out AND he probably didn't write it. Just sayin' Chat Icon They have hired help for that kind of stuff



LOL true.

Posted 10/29/13 3:07 PM
 

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Re: Jay Z: I'm being 'demonized' over Barneys deal

Posted by Sash

Posted by BlessedMomma

Posted by Sash

You're being 'demonized' because you're an idiot. The End.

Just stay quiet. Sorry he irks me and his isnt even a good rapper anymore.lol



Why is he an idiot???? Hes actually one of the few rappers that isnt an idiot... and if you read his statement you would
Know hes not one as well. Its actually a well written statement and thought out one. Hes an educated man. Period. His statement wasnt in any way idiotic or ignorant.



ITS MY OPINION, I think in general he is an idiot and it has to do with things he has done. I find him arrogant and believe him and his lovely wife Beyonce have a "my sh!t dont stink" attitude. I followed his music & him since the beginning. He is only about the money now and thats why he isnt doing anything about what happened. Just be honest if you're so "gully and gangsta". Same reason he retires, then comes out and then retires again. Same reason why he puts out garbage music, for the paycheck and because he is making money off of his name now not his musical talent anymore. He even had an arrogant beef with Robert Dinero, he is an idiot.

I didnt say he sounded like an idiot nor that he is an idiot because of this statement, I said he is an idiot. As in my opinion. You dont think so, good for you. Sheesh



And I was simply asking why you thought he was an idiot. It seemee like a strange reaction to a well written statement and obvs i thought you were calling him an idiot based on that. I was simply disagreeing with you. Dont get your panties in a bunch lol you have the right to your opinion i wasnt saying that at all.

I agree with the fact that him and his wife have a 'my sh*t dont stink' type of tude and for that im sick of them. But im more sick of her than him.
And i know he didnt personally write that statement but before he was JAYZ the mogul he was always one of the smarter rappers. Lyrically and in interviews. He was never truly ignorant. And hes a mogul for a reason. While the others fade away.

Posted 10/29/13 4:55 PM
 

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Posted by Sash

Posted by BlessedMomma

Posted by Sash

You're being 'demonized' because you're an idiot. The End.

Just stay quiet. Sorry he irks me and his isnt even a good rapper anymore.lol



Why is he an idiot???? Hes actually one of the few rappers that isnt an idiot... and if you read his statement you would
Know hes not one as well. Its actually a well written statement and thought out one. Hes an educated man. Period. His statement wasnt in any way idiotic or ignorant.



ITS MY OPINION, I think in general he is an idiot and it has to do with things he has done. I find him arrogant and believe him and his lovely wife Beyonce have a "my sh!t dont stink" attitude. I followed his music & him since the beginning. He is only about the money now and thats why he isnt doing anything about what happened. Just be honest if you're so "gully and gangsta". Same reason he retires, then comes out and then retires again. Same reason why he puts out garbage music, for the paycheck and because he is making money off of his name now not his musical talent anymore. He even had an arrogant beef with Robert Dinero, he is an idiot.

I didnt say he sounded like an idiot nor that he is an idiot because of this statement, I said he is an idiot. As in my opinion. You dont think so, good for you. Sheesh



And I was simply asking why you thought he was an idiot. It seemee like a strange reaction to a well written statement and obvs i thought you were calling him an idiot based on that. I was simply disagreeing with you. Dont get your panties in a bunch lol you have the right to your opinion i wasnt saying that at all.

I agree with the fact that him and his wife have a 'my sh*t dont stink' type of tude and for that im sick of them. But im more sick of her than him.
And i know he didnt personally write that statement but before he was JAYZ the mogul he was always one of the smarter rappers. Lyrically and in interviews. He was never truly ignorant. And hes a mogul for a reason. While the others fade away.



Trust me my panties are not in a bunch especially over Jay Z. Your response didnt seem like a simple disagreement, I explained why I called him an idiot and still stand by that. I never called him ignorant and I dont think he is the best and/or smartest rap mogul of all time. But again my opinion.

Posted 10/29/13 5:11 PM
 

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Re: Jay Z: I'm being 'demonized' over Barneys deal

I do think he has changed since hooking up with Beyonce. However, based on this singular instance...I don't fault him for the deal with barney's.

#1) the money benefits underprivileged children

#2) It's not necessarily the corporation's policies that are a problem but possibly the worker or management. I'm certain they don't have "make sure you stalk every black buyer and take extra care to be sure they aren't stealing" in their policy handbook. It's an issue that I think the corporation needs to have an opportunity to address and fix. There are many instances where a worker acts on their own instincts and not necessarily going with company policy. It's a training issue...look at how many moms get told they can't breast feed in an establishment only to have the higher ups have to come back and apologize and clean up the mess. Why? because their employees weren't trained / drilled on the issue well enough.

3) if people really knew the wrong doings of every corporation they did business with I guarantee they would be shocked. For instance the companies we discussed about a month or so ago who have ties to hitler, the nazi party and holocaust.

he may be different, he may be all about his money now...but he's not stupid and he's not an idiot. That's one thing I always admired about him. He didn't have to fit into the gangster persona to be successful in the hip hop industry...he was a businessman and self educated. He didn't have a high school diploma or college degree, but he's no fool.

Posted 10/29/13 5:18 PM
 
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