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moonmist09
Thank you, St. Gerard!
Member since 2/11 5043 total posts
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Antonella
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Would you say something?
i would mind my own business
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Posted 10/15/12 3:38 PM  |
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Pray4Baby2010
<3 Cutest Giants Fan
Member since 10/09 5796 total posts
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MB
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Re: Would you say something?
I'm so saddened that most people wouldn't say something... If as a parent, I was making a huge mistake- one that was against the law AND put my kid in danger, I would want someone to tell me.
I would feel awful if I didn't say something and then the kid was in an accident 
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| Posted 10/15/12 4:10 PM |
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mrsboss
my little love
Member since 12/09 5054 total posts
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Me
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Would you say something?
I normally wouldn't say something, but a few mos ago at work (work in insurance), I handled a horrible claim, horrific head-on crash. The mother had her 22 month old in the same type of booster seat. Upon impact the baby flew from the booster and wound up in the hatch back of the vehicle and was unconscious. Baby was airlifted and had a severed spinal cord. Baby stayed on life support at a separate hospital from the mother. She was also had catastrophic injuries, but they kept the baby alive for 6 wks so she was able to spend a last moment, before they removed the intubation and the baby passed.
Seeing those photos and handling that accident was terribly sad. I'd def say something to your friend.
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| Posted 10/15/12 4:12 PM |
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MrsPorkChop
Twinning!!
Member since 5/05 9941 total posts
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Missy
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Would you say something?
i don't think it is your place to say.
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| Posted 10/15/12 5:03 PM |
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Xelindrya
Mommy's little YouTube Star!
Member since 8/05 14470 total posts
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Veronica
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Re: Would you say something? **Updated**
Posted by mrsboss
I normally wouldn't say something, but a few mos ago at work (work in insurance), I handled a horrible claim, horrific head-on crash. The mother had her 22 month old in the same type of booster seat. Upon impact the baby flew from the booster and wound up in the hatch back of the vehicle and was unconscious. Baby was airlifted and had a severed spinal cord. Baby stayed on life support at a separate hospital from the mother. She was also had catastrophic injuries, but they kept the baby alive for 6 wks so she was able to spend a last moment, before they removed the intubation and the baby passed.
Seeing those photos and handling that accident was terribly sad. I'd def say something to your friend.
And *THIS* is why I got out of claims after 3yrs. Still hold my AIC designation (old school multi-line/personal & Commercial) but I dont use it for more than just occasional consulting for a client and darned appreciately of our own 'claims gal' for sure!
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| Posted 10/15/12 5:38 PM |
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maybebaby
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Member since 11/05 6870 total posts
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Maureen
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Re: Would you say something? **Updated**
Think about it this way..if, god forbid, they got in an accident and something horrible happened to that child, you'd be kicking yourself.
What i would do at this point is send a personal email saying "I didn't want to come across as a know it all, i hope you don't take it this way but lots of people are unaware that even if a child is big, the age plays a big factor too."
you could even add something like "I had no clue either until I was told by a friend so thought i'd pass on the info!". A little white lie can't hurt.
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| Posted 10/15/12 6:30 PM |
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tara73
carseat nerd
Member since 11/09 3669 total posts
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Buttercup
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Re: Would you say something? **Updated**
Posted by mrsboss
I normally wouldn't say something, but a few mos ago at work (work in insurance), I handled a horrible claim, horrific head-on crash. The mother had her 22 month old in the same type of booster seat. Upon impact the baby flew from the booster and wound up in the hatch back of the vehicle and was unconscious. Baby was airlifted and had a severed spinal cord. Baby stayed on life support at a separate hospital from the mother. She was also had catastrophic injuries, but they kept the baby alive for 6 wks so she was able to spend a last moment, before they removed the intubation and the baby passed.
Seeing those photos and handling that accident was terribly sad. I'd def say something to your friend.
"but it won't happen to me"
How awful for that family. Most people assume they are doing everything properly. I have been the one to break it to parents they weren't. It's not always easy, nor is it fun. Some parents are very receptive and will listen. Other parents just ignore me and treat me like I am an installer only (I am not, I am a teacher.. pay attention!). I have had some parents roll their eyes at me, while others have been so horrified about their misuse they're reduced to tears.
I think most people know how I feel about boostering too young. From a post I made in another thread
Boostering is for big kids, maturity is a big part of it. A child who can't sit still or falls asleep in the car often isn't a good candidate for boostering. A child who has poor impulse control is not a good candidate. They should be mature enough to not play with the belt or unbuckle it, not move the shoulder portion behind their backs or under their arms etc. I usually recommend beginning booster training to my parents of 5 and 6 year olds who meet the maturity level and minimum size required. Training is getting kids adjusted to this new found "freedom" by using the booster on short trips (think 10 mins or so). Remember, since birth they've been restrained by a 5 pt harness that doesn't move and suddenly they're in a 3 pt seat belt that allows them much more movement. Even the best kid is going to test that out!
It is one thing for a grown adult to be out of position in a crash but a smaller body can be hurt severely if they're out of position. So, this is where fit comes in. All boosters are NOT created equal and you should try them for fit. (I also recommend high back boosters for younger kids, and low back for older kids who are closer to meeting the 5 step test to an adult seatbelt, think ages 7-11)
Shoulder belt should lay flat across the shoulder, not the neck.
Lap belt should lay across the upper thigh/lower hip, not across the abdomen.
The child should be seated so his/her bum is against the back of the seat, no slouching
If you are using a low back booster, make sure there is a head rest in that position if the child's ears are even with the top of the back of the seat.
If the vehicle position chosen has only a lap belt then you should not use a booster and should use a harness in that position.
How and if we approach people when we see the misuse is a difficult subject. People post on here with questions, they are actively seeking answers. People who post a picture on facebook don't want to hear anything except "omg how cute!" etc. They may be resistant and nasty because they aren't soliciting your "parenting advice". And in my experience, most people do directly relate carseat misuse to their parenting skills and get very defensive.
Obviously, I've said stuff. I find the "sandwich" method works well. Positive, critique, positive. "Oh wow! She is so adorable. I can't believe she is two! I'm surprised she is in a booster already, my doctor told us that even though John/Mary meets the minimums that we should keep him/her harnessed as long as we can since it's so much safer! Miss you guys!"
Message edited 10/15/2012 7:28:17 PM.
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| Posted 10/15/12 7:26 PM |
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mrsboss
my little love
Member since 12/09 5054 total posts
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Me
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Re: Would you say something? **Updated**
Posted by Xelindrya
Posted by mrsboss
I normally wouldn't say something, but a few mos ago at work (work in insurance), I handled a horrible claim, horrific head-on crash. The mother had her 22 month old in the same type of booster seat. Upon impact the baby flew from the booster and wound up in the hatch back of the vehicle and was unconscious. Baby was airlifted and had a severed spinal cord. Baby stayed on life support at a separate hospital from the mother. She was also had catastrophic injuries, but they kept the baby alive for 6 wks so she was able to spend a last moment, before they removed the intubation and the baby passed.
Seeing those photos and handling that accident was terribly sad. I'd def say something to your friend.
And *THIS* is why I got out of claims after 3yrs. Still hold my AIC designation (old school multi-line/personal & Commercial) but I dont use it for more than just occasional consulting for a client and darned appreciately of our own 'claims gal' for sure!
I hear you. Been doing it for so long, but it's still so heartbreaking. def see lots of horrible things, and speaking to the families or survivors of these fatalities is just the worst. 
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| Posted 10/15/12 7:29 PM |
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NervousNell
Just another chapter in life..
Member since 11/09 54921 total posts
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..being a mommy and being a wife!
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Re: Would you say something? **Updated**
Posted by mrsboss
I normally wouldn't say something, but a few mos ago at work (work in insurance), I handled a horrible claim, horrific head-on crash. The mother had her 22 month old in the same type of booster seat. Upon impact the baby flew from the booster and wound up in the hatch back of the vehicle and was unconscious. Baby was airlifted and had a severed spinal cord. Baby stayed on life support at a separate hospital from the mother. She was also had catastrophic injuries, but they kept the baby alive for 6 wks so she was able to spend a last moment, before they removed the intubation and the baby passed.
Seeing those photos and handling that accident was terribly sad. I'd def say something to your friend.
I just don't get how anyone can think a booster seat at that age is ok? Is it a rush for them to grow up? Ignorance?
Too me it's inexcusable. In this day and age information is everywhere Use the internet to do a little research on safety issues for yourchildren- not just to pin bulllshit on Pintrest.
Sorry but this stuff angers me to no end.
Message edited 10/15/2012 7:41:06 PM.
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| Posted 10/15/12 7:40 PM |
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steph7308
Mommy of 2!!!
Member since 5/08 2083 total posts
Name:
Stephanie
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Would you say something? **Updated**
My dd is 4 n still in a reg carseat!!
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