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Bugaboo
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Re: Animals skinned alive for what you think is "fake fur"
Posted by tarabelle99
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Posted by annoyedTTCer
Posted by zuzuspetals
I have seen videos similar to the one you are referring to so I am qualified to talk about evil. Your arguments are rediculous. Bashing an entire community is totally unfounded. Glad your going full steam ahead with such a rediculous opinion.
Ridiculous not Rediculous
Feeling the need to correct someone's spelling is RIDICULOUS
I haven't seen the video yet but I'm sure it is very disturbing and horrific. But I have to agree that bashing an entire country of people is out of line. Calling them "sub-human" is awful. I understand issues like this make people passionate but there's no need to go there.
all of this. There may be SOME in a particular country/culture that practice such acts, but to label ALL people living in a country "sub human" is just wrong
And, IMO, it makes you no better a person yourself, no matter how "admirable" your cause is, to label and judge an entire nation made up of individuals. It's actually quite ignorant to do so and strips you and your cause of credibility.
ITA!! I think you're the one that is ridiculous and quite frankly, just plain ignorant.
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METLove2008
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Re: Animals skinned alive for what you think is "fake fur"
I think the OP was just trying to educate the public. I don't think it was posted just to bash China. Sadly, this doesn't just happen in China. It happens all over Europe and it even still happens in North America.
The reason China is singled out is because of deceptive labeling.
I thought I was being an "educated consumer" by buying a sweater with fur trim labeled as "faux fox". It was made in China. I didn't realize that it was real fur. It just wasn't real fox fur, it was dyed and cut to look like fox.
But, my point is... I still bought real fur. Had I known at the time... I wouldn't have made that purchase. I thought I was buying faux fur... cause that's what the label said.
Most of the furs raised in Europe are your higher end furs (mink, chinchilla, fox... etc.) So, they are labeled correctly and sold for a lot more money.
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Angels04
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Re: Animals skinned alive for what you think is "fake fur"
I've seen videos like this before. BASTARDS! God love these animals. I would never buy fur and will educate myself that I buy fake fur that is really fake.
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Mushesgirl
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Re: Animals skinned alive for what you think is "fake fur"
Posted by tarabelle99
Posted by july4mrsO
Posted by annoyedTTCer
Posted by zuzuspetals
I have seen videos similar to the one you are referring to so I am qualified to talk about evil. Your arguments are rediculous. Bashing an entire community is totally unfounded. Glad your going full steam ahead with such a rediculous opinion.
Ridiculous not Rediculous
Feeling the need to correct someone's spelling is RIDICULOUS
I haven't seen the video yet but I'm sure it is very disturbing and horrific. But I have to agree that bashing an entire country of people is out of line. Calling them "sub-human" is awful. I understand issues like this make people passionate but there's no need to go there.
all of this. There may be SOME in a particular country/culture that practice such acts, but to label ALL people living in a country "sub human" is just wrong
And, IMO, it makes you no better a person yourself, no matter how "admirable" your cause is, to label and judge an entire nation made up of individuals. It's actually quite ignorant to do so and strips you and your cause of credibility.
oh please, please sensitive darlings, let me clarify my position to help lift you higher up onto your moral high ground. The sub humans I was referring to are the ones doing the torture, not the entire nation. I boycott the nation for allowing the torture and allowing export of said products. Don't you all feel better now?
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Bxgell2
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Re: Animals skinned alive for what you think is "fake fur"
Posted by lipglossjunky73
Posted by zuzuspetals
I love animals, adore them. My two chihuahuas are sleeping on me right now and I am disgusted that these fur farms exist, I really am. I just cannot stomach that site ... and others like it (On ANY TOPIC)
ETA: I cannot watch the video because I do not think I can stomach it.
I went to that site and I think it is a bunch of crap filled with extremist point of views and distorted information. This site quotes the following:
"it's cheaper and easier to skin a live, warm animal thats convulsing in agony than a dead body. The whole skin comes off easily and in one piece"
Really who said that?! I am not saying it doesnt happen, I'm not saying that ... but no one would say that. They would say, "its cheaper and easier to skin an animal alive compared to when its not." I am sure they do not get joy and pleasure out of agony. Anyway, I just want to point out while these things may exist in China, PLEASE dont think that this happens everywhere.
As someone who has visited China recently I have to say there are a zillion STEREOTYPES against the people of China ... for instance, that they all eat dogs and cats. I cannot tell you how many ignorant people I met before my trip who would make a comment about that. Ugh, educate yourselves people. Some people in China have consumed dog meat like many other cultures around the world (see link below). What I dont understand is our
standards of being civilized?, the only animals appropriate to be consumed are basically cows, pigs, and chickens. How is a dog greater than a cow? Don't they both feel equal pain when they die? It is ridiculous how we live in such a conformist society, where people select certain creatures to be above others for no apparent reason.
Travelling to China was a great eye opener for me. It is an amazing country with amazing people and, despite the vast amount of western anti-Chinese propaganda, well run by a government who will listen to the people! So many misconceptions ... SO MANY! Even the one child rule is grossly misunderstood. In fact, there are several routes that families can take to have more than one child. Sorry, off topic I know.
Ayyway, people in China who are cruel to animals face real punishments, fines and jail sentences. Many organizations have been created in China to STOP the cruelty and slaughtering of animals.
Read more about this here
(scroll down)
Well said - I have to say - I don't see any difference between eating a pig, cow, cat, or dog. They are ALL animals!
Exactly why I don't eat meat, and exactly the logic I use with my 5 year old - I tell her, we wouldn't eat Sparky or Puddles because we wouldn't want to hurt them and we know they would be scared and upset, so why would we eat a cow, pig, chicken, etc, when we know they would feel the same way?
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zuzuspetals
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Re: Animals skinned alive for what you think is "fake fur"
sorry for the spelling error.
hey, it happens.
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Re: Animals skinned alive for what you think is "fake fur"
Posted by Bxgell2
Posted by lipglossjunky73
Posted by zuzuspetals
I love animals, adore them. My two chihuahuas are sleeping on me right now and I am disgusted that these fur farms exist, I really am. I just cannot stomach that site ... and others like it (On ANY TOPIC)
ETA: I cannot watch the video because I do not think I can stomach it.
I went to that site and I think it is a bunch of crap filled with extremist point of views and distorted information. This site quotes the following:
"it's cheaper and easier to skin a live, warm animal thats convulsing in agony than a dead body. The whole skin comes off easily and in one piece"
Really who said that?! I am not saying it doesnt happen, I'm not saying that ... but no one would say that. They would say, "its cheaper and easier to skin an animal alive compared to when its not." I am sure they do not get joy and pleasure out of agony. Anyway, I just want to point out while these things may exist in China, PLEASE dont think that this happens everywhere.
As someone who has visited China recently I have to say there are a zillion STEREOTYPES against the people of China ... for instance, that they all eat dogs and cats. I cannot tell you how many ignorant people I met before my trip who would make a comment about that. Ugh, educate yourselves people. Some people in China have consumed dog meat like many other cultures around the world (see link below). What I dont understand is our
standards of being civilized?, the only animals appropriate to be consumed are basically cows, pigs, and chickens. How is a dog greater than a cow? Don't they both feel equal pain when they die? It is ridiculous how we live in such a conformist society, where people select certain creatures to be above others for no apparent reason.
Travelling to China was a great eye opener for me. It is an amazing country with amazing people and, despite the vast amount of western anti-Chinese propaganda, well run by a government who will listen to the people! So many misconceptions ... SO MANY! Even the one child rule is grossly misunderstood. In fact, there are several routes that families can take to have more than one child. Sorry, off topic I know.
Ayyway, people in China who are cruel to animals face real punishments, fines and jail sentences. Many organizations have been created in China to STOP the cruelty and slaughtering of animals.
Read more about this here
(scroll down)
Well said - I have to say - I don't see any difference between eating a pig, cow, cat, or dog. They are ALL animals!
Exactly why I don't eat meat, and exactly the logic I use with my 5 year old - I tell her, we wouldn't eat Sparky or Puddles because we wouldn't want to hurt them and we know they would be scared and upset, so why would we eat a cow, pig, chicken, etc, when we know they would feel the same way?
Mom - can I have Sparky nuggets for lunch today? What about Puddles Surprise? 
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Bxgell2
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Re: Animals skinned alive for what you think is "fake fur"
Posted by lipglossjunky73
Mom - can I have Sparky nuggets for lunch today? What about Puddles Surprise?
Yeah, I don't know how good that would taste considering Sparky is a 15 year old, blind, deaf, stringy, skinny, dandruffy, two - teethed chihuaha. Puddles has a little bit of meat to her, but again, she's 15 
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