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SweetTooth
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Re: alcoholism
Posted by WhatNow
I do see how an alcoholic parent could effect the children in certain cases and create alcoholic dependency early on. If they are a flesh of his flesh, the fetus is automatically carrying alcohol in his system if he was concieved by an alcoholic parent. There an expression "Alcoholist is in his blood"... that is exactly true in the above example.
Having "alcoholism in the blood" has nothing to do with a parent drinking while beiing concieved - it has to do with the genetic makeup of the parent and the child. If a mother drinks while pregnant it may affect the fetus in negative ways, but would not contribute to alchoholism later in the child's life (not directly anyway.)
How would you then explain an alcoholic child if his/her father was an alcoholic?
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Re: alcoholism
i believe it is a disease. i don't think alcholics choose to drink, its not something they can control. and like a disease, there is treatment for it. its not easy, but people can recover, but never be cured.
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| Posted 2/1/07 11:17 AM |
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SweetTooth
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Re: alcoholism
Posted by MsG
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I think that some people are predisposed to having addictive personalities. Do I think it is a "disease" in the traditional sense? No. But I do believe that some people really have very little control over it and that genetic disposition can be extremely hard for some people to over come.
Exactly what I was going to say. There is genetic disposition to it . It is in the genes, which is therefore in the blood, which some people do consider a disease. Some people can over come it, others can't. I do think its a choice for that person. A person doesn't choose wether or not to have cancer. But they can choose wether or not to pick up that drink.
Actually, smokers take a big risk re: lung cancer
Yes, but people who don't smoke may get lung cancer. And people who smoke 5 packs a day for 40 years may never get lung cancer. It has to do with genetic predisposition.
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| Posted 2/1/07 11:18 AM |
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Re: alcoholism
Posted by Kate07
A disease can be something simples as an impairment of health or a condition of abnormal functioning.
I don't think alcoholics can control their alcoholism. That's why they need help to condition their bodies and minds. It has both mental and physical parts to it.
I come from a family with a history of alcoholism. Luckily I never had to suffer from the destruction ones drinking causes.
There is a genetic link - and so I even watch my own drinking ALWAYS. I only drink ocassionally and I am very very careful that I don't cross that line.
I agree 100% and in the same boat in terms of family.
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| Posted 2/1/07 12:21 PM |
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I think its a disease comparable to a mental disease not a physical disease. The addictive personality is a mental "flaw" so to speak but is different than cancer or a "sickness".
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| Posted 2/1/07 12:30 PM |
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Ali1
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Re: alcoholism
My father is an alcholoic and I feel the term is often thrown around by anyone who gets in trouble due to their alcohol induced behaviors. Once you live with someone who is a full blown alcoholic you understand that it is a disease. My father was put into the hospital recently for another issue and they could not do anything to him until his "shakes" from not drinking for 24 hours wore off....it took three days. His body and mind are totally dependent on alcohol. In the past 20 years this man has not held a job, lost relationships with both his children and family and continues to not understand why no one wants to be around him.
I have many friends who drink alcohol out in social settings, but never do i look at any of them and think boy they have an alcohol problem. Until you live with someone who does you will not fully understand how much this is a mental and physical disease.
In addition I think a lot of people go to AA or say they are alcoholics when they start down the path and want to stop it. I don't think they have the disease of alcholoism but want to address an issue before it becomes a problem.
Hope this makes some sort of sense.
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| Posted 2/1/07 12:42 PM |
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Eleanor
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Re: alcoholism
Posted by MsG
Also, the logic of "it's not a disease like diabetes, cancer, etc." doesn't make sense...many people know they are pre-diabetic, yet continue to eat sugary things - does that mean when they get full-blown diabetes it's not a disease? Or when smokers get lung cancer, it's not a disease?
I totally agree with you here. Just another example of this is AIDS. Most of the time it is completely preventable, however it is still a disease.
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| Posted 2/1/07 12:56 PM |
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Emily
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Re: alcoholism
You probably should not judge what it is unless you have it. If you don't have it then you have no idea what it can do to a person.
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| Posted 2/1/07 1:25 PM |
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Kelly9904
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Re: alcoholism
Coming from a family where I have lost members to alcoholism and have been lucky enough to see my father get into treatment months before his life would have ended! I do certainly believe it should be termed a disease. When I was young I thought my father was weak and just didn't care and it was an addiction he could control. But after growing up a bit and learning more about it, I truly believe its a disease. And I believe that my brothers and I have to watch what we do because we are predisposed to is as members of both sides of our family have lost this battle.
I think the problem that many people are having is that they are only looking at high profile diseases such as cancer to compare it to. Compare it to OCD, or bi polar, do you think those are diseases? If so what makes them so different than Alcoholism?
On another note, my mom died of lung cancer, my dad has been sober for 14 years.....I can speak first hand and say the effects of alcoholism are no less devastating than cancer.
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