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Beautifulgirls
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Re: Disability

Ok, I'll bite.

I am considering applying for disability. I have a rare brain disorder. I was just diagnosed in June but I've been sick for many years. The doctors couldn't figure out what was wrong with me. I had nearly given up when one morning I woke up with pain and blurry vision in my left eye. I went through a series of invasive and less invasive tests, and then I was finally diagnosed. Although it was upsetting to be diagnosed with a life-long disease, I felt like I was finally getting some answers, and I hoped that with treatment I could get my life back and be normal again.

I'm very young. I had the same job for 10 years, and I've worked for half of my life. I can't even put into words how much I miss working. I can't even think about it without crying, and it has nothing to do with the money. I just loved it and now it's over.

I don't know if I'm ever going to get better, or worse god forbid. I can tell you that I'm very afraid. I'm only considering disability because I'm afraid. What if my husband loses his job? I can't have a lapse in medical care. I need medication, spinal taps, possibly surgery and revisions. What if he leaves me or something happens to him?

I want people to understand that this isn't something that you just jump into. You don't wake up one day and say hey I don't feel like working anymore. I haven't worked in almost a year and I still have not applied.

Most of my friends don't know that I'm sick. It's not something I'm ready to admit, not even to myself. It doesn't mean anything that a person doesn't look sick. I look sick now but I didn't for quite a while, and I'm sure I could still fool you on a good day. It doesn't mean that I don't spend half of my day laying down, and the other half trying not to fall down. It doesn't mean that I'm not in constant pain.

I have a point and here it is. How many trips to Vegas can you take on a few hundred dollars a month? Live and let live. Be happy it's not you.

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Re: Disability

Posted by Beautifulgirls

Ok, I'll bite.

I am considering applying for disability. I have a rare brain disorder. I was just diagnosed in June but I've been sick for many years. The doctors couldn't figure out what was wrong with me. I had nearly given up when one morning I woke up with pain and blurry vision in my left eye. I went through a series of invasive and less invasive tests, and then I was finally diagnosed. Although it was upsetting to be diagnosed with a life-long disease, I felt like I was finally getting some answers, and I hoped that with treatment I could get my life back and be normal again.

I'm very young. I had the same job for 10 years, and I've worked for half of my life. I can't even put into words how much I miss working. I can't even think about it without crying, and it has nothing to do with the money. I just loved it and now it's over.

I don't know if I'm ever going to get better, or worse god forbid. I can tell you that I'm very afraid. I'm only considering disability because I'm afraid. What if my husband loses his job? I can't have a lapse in medical care. I need medication, spinal taps, possibly surgery and revisions. What if he leaves me or something happens to him?

I want people to understand that this isn't something that you just jump into. You don't wake up one day and say hey I don't feel like working anymore. I haven't worked in almost a year and I still have not applied.

Most of my friends don't know that I'm sick. It's not something I'm ready to admit, not even to myself. It doesn't mean anything that a person doesn't look sick. I look sick now but I didn't for quite a while, and I'm sure I could still fool you on a good day. It doesn't mean that I don't spend half of my day laying down, and the other half trying not to fall down. It doesn't mean that I'm not in constant pain.

I have a point and here it is. How many trips to Vegas can you take on a few hundred dollars a month? Live and let live. Be happy it's not you.



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Posted 10/19/12 11:22 PM
 

tara73
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Re: Disability

Posted by Beautifulgirls

Ok, I'll bite.

I am considering applying for disability. I have a rare brain disorder. I was just diagnosed in June but I've been sick for many years. The doctors couldn't figure out what was wrong with me. I had nearly given up when one morning I woke up with pain and blurry vision in my left eye. I went through a series of invasive and less invasive tests, and then I was finally diagnosed. Although it was upsetting to be diagnosed with a life-long disease, I felt like I was finally getting some answers, and I hoped that with treatment I could get my life back and be normal again.

I'm very young. I had the same job for 10 years, and I've worked for half of my life. I can't even put into words how much I miss working. I can't even think about it without crying, and it has nothing to do with the money. I just loved it and now it's over.

I don't know if I'm ever going to get better, or worse god forbid. I can tell you that I'm very afraid. I'm only considering disability because I'm afraid. What if my husband loses his job? I can't have a lapse in medical care. I need medication, spinal taps, possibly surgery and revisions. What if he leaves me or something happens to him?

I want people to understand that this isn't something that you just jump into. You don't wake up one day and say hey I don't feel like working anymore. I haven't worked in almost a year and I still have not applied.

Most of my friends don't know that I'm sick. It's not something I'm ready to admit, not even to myself. It doesn't mean anything that a person doesn't look sick. I look sick now but I didn't for quite a while, and I'm sure I could still fool you on a good day. It doesn't mean that I don't spend half of my day laying down, and the other half trying not to fall down. It doesn't mean that I'm not in constant pain.

I have a point and here it is. How many trips to Vegas can you take on a few hundred dollars a month? Live and let live. Be happy it's not you.



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Posted 10/19/12 11:23 PM
 

MorningCuppaCoffee
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Re: Disability

Posted by Beautifulgirls

Ok, I'll bite.

I am considering applying for disability. I have a rare brain disorder. I was just diagnosed in June but I've been sick for many years. The doctors couldn't figure out what was wrong with me. I had nearly given up when one morning I woke up with pain and blurry vision in my left eye. I went through a series of invasive and less invasive tests, and then I was finally diagnosed. Although it was upsetting to be diagnosed with a life-long disease, I felt like I was finally getting some answers, and I hoped that with treatment I could get my life back and be normal again.

I'm very young. I had the same job for 10 years, and I've worked for half of my life. I can't even put into words how much I miss working. I can't even think about it without crying, and it has nothing to do with the money. I just loved it and now it's over.

I don't know if I'm ever going to get better, or worse god forbid. I can tell you that I'm very afraid. I'm only considering disability because I'm afraid. What if my husband loses his job? I can't have a lapse in medical care. I need medication, spinal taps, possibly surgery and revisions. What if he leaves me or something happens to him?

I want people to understand that this isn't something that you just jump into. You don't wake up one day and say hey I don't feel like working anymore. I haven't worked in almost a year and I still have not applied.

Most of my friends don't know that I'm sick. It's not something I'm ready to admit, not even to myself. It doesn't mean anything that a person doesn't look sick. I look sick now but I didn't for quite a while, and I'm sure I could still fool you on a good day. It doesn't mean that I don't spend half of my day laying down, and the other half trying not to fall down. It doesn't mean that I'm not in constant pain.

I have a point and here it is. How many trips to Vegas can you take on a few hundred dollars a month? Live and let live. Be happy it's not you.



Thank you for sharing your story.

I also feel like if someone who is disabled goes on a trip once a year or every few years, they are absolutely entitled to.

Especially if it brings some kind of joy into their lives.

I have worked with MANY disabled clients who go away, and it's because their family pays for them, so they can see them.

Doesn't take away their amount of pain (physical and emotional).

Many people I know in this situation also don't want to live here in NYS, but want to be close to their family, however, our state is fortunate to offer some of the best programs to help people in their situation, which is why they stay.

I can understand someone going through this process getting upset if they get denied (which I hear is pretty common with disability, and I often feel it's purposeful because they want to "weed out" people from using it).

But the holier-than-thou attitude towards people, especially people that one doesn't even know IRL enough to make some of the statements that are said..........and just the general toxic attitude towards people that it's ASSumed they are using the system......

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Message edited 10/20/2012 7:08:10 AM.

Posted 10/20/12 7:07 AM
 

MorningCuppaCoffee
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Re: Disability

Posted by The Law Office of Kerie P. Stone

Posted by MorningCuppaCoffee

I still don't understand how it effects YOUR life though.



I'll take a slightly different stance, though. If a person believes in something and really hates to see the injustices, they should learn all they can about it, read about it, meet people who are affected by it and then become a true activists Testify before Congress. Advocate for your beliefs after you educate yourself. But be warned that when you educate yourself you will find some stories that may not fit your theory. I went into this area lof law after I could have gotten a big firm corporate job. Now I find that learning about the medical aspects of my cases is what holds my interest as do the real human stories behind every single case.

The worst part about my job is when I have a client with a rare illness and they apply and the claims examiner makes a remark that they never heard of the person's illness. Their thinking is often that if they never heard of it or never saw a case like it, the illness must not be disabiling. That infuriates me. When those cases get to a Judge, that is usually corrected right away but the person has already been a bit discouraged about the whole system. I love fighting for the rare disease cases.



Oh, I totally agree. I was talking more about the LIF busybodies where this topic doesn't affect their life in the least, but they have to have something negative to say about it, especially without having actual real facts, KWIM?

Posted 10/20/12 7:11 AM
 

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Re: Disability

Posted by The Law Office of Kerie P. Stone

Posted by MorningCuppaCoffee

I still don't understand how it effects YOUR life though.



I'll take a slightly different stance, though. If a person believes in something and really hates to see the injustices, they should learn all they can about it, read about it, meet people who are affected by it and then become a true activists Testify before Congress. Advocate for your beliefs after you educate yourself. But be warned that when you educate yourself you will find some stories that may not fit your theory. I went into this area lof law after I could have gotten a big firm corporate job. Now I find that learning about the medical aspects of my cases is what holds my interest as do the real human stories behind every single case.

The worst part about my job is when I have a client with a rare illness and they apply and the claims examiner makes a remark that they never heard of the person's illness. Their thinking is often that if they never heard of it or never saw a case like it, the illness must not be disabiling. That infuriates me. When those cases get to a Judge, that is usually corrected right away but the person has already been a bit discouraged about the whole system. I love fighting for the rare disease cases.

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Posted 10/20/12 7:38 AM
 

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Re: Disability

I was friends with a girl in high school whose dad was out on disability for his back although any time I was there he was doing yard work, mowing the lawn, working on the house... as someone who has had back problems my entire life and had spinal surgery in my 20's I can't imagine his back was THAT bad that he could be doing all of these things but not work.

On the flip side there are people who may not seem like they have a dsiability because it's not a physical disability, that doesn't mean they're "faking it."

There are always people who are going to take advantage and there are people who do things honestly.

Message edited 10/20/2012 7:55:26 AM.

Posted 10/20/12 7:53 AM
 

The Law Office of Kerie P. Stone
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Re: Disability

Do people not realize that disability does not fully replace a person's salary? Many of us on Long Island are barely getting by. Why do you think somehow you would then be able to afford luxuries if you were not working? That math does not add up. I tell my clients that even when we win them everything they are entitled to they won't get rich. It's a huge adjustment in lifestyle for most people. Yes, there are people collecting who should not be, but when you tell me that it's someone you only know remotely, why does that one person sour your view of everyone who is collecting? And please take a look at what the media does to your views.

Posted 10/20/12 4:44 PM
 

imagin916
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Member since 6/05

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Valerie

Re: Disability

Posted by nrthshgrl

Alcoholism & drug addiction are disabilities if they are being TREATED. They don't get to get trashed & shoot up, not go to a doctor & collect a paycheck. Much in the same way bipolar disorder is considered a disability IF they are being treated. We had someone go off their meds, refuse treatment & it was not a disablity.



Maybe the rules require them to do this but I have seen countless patients who use the disability checks to buy drugs and or alcohol.

I'm fully aware of what detox entails, the only type of detox that kills is alcohol and maybe benzodiazepines if heavily addicted. Sure it sucks but it should be mandatory for anyone addicted recieving benefits from the system.

I'm not against people who are recieving benefits to get clean, but those who are still using should be cut off.

And to the person that said alcoholism is a choice because it is a genetic trait, well there are plenty of people in this world who have those genes, myself included, that don't abuse drugs or alcohol.

Posted 10/20/12 6:21 PM
 

petunias
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Member since 4/12

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Name:
Petunia

Re: Disability

Posted by Beautifulgirls

Ok, I'll bite.

I am considering applying for disability. I have a rare brain disorder. I was just diagnosed in June but I've been sick for many years. The doctors couldn't figure out what was wrong with me. I had nearly given up when one morning I woke up with pain and blurry vision in my left eye. I went through a series of invasive and less invasive tests, and then I was finally diagnosed. Although it was upsetting to be diagnosed with a life-long disease, I felt like I was finally getting some answers, and I hoped that with treatment I could get my life back and be normal again.

I'm very young. I had the same job for 10 years, and I've worked for half of my life. I can't even put into words how much I miss working. I can't even think about it without crying, and it has nothing to do with the money. I just loved it and now it's over.

I don't know if I'm ever going to get better, or worse god forbid. I can tell you that I'm very afraid. I'm only considering disability because I'm afraid. What if my husband loses his job? I can't have a lapse in medical care. I need medication, spinal taps, possibly surgery and revisions. What if he leaves me or something happens to him?

I want people to understand that this isn't something that you just jump into. You don't wake up one day and say hey I don't feel like working anymore. I haven't worked in almost a year and I still have not applied.

Most of my friends don't know that I'm sick. It's not something I'm ready to admit, not even to myself. It doesn't mean anything that a person doesn't look sick. I look sick now but I didn't for quite a while, and I'm sure I could still fool you on a good day. It doesn't mean that I don't spend half of my day laying down, and the other half trying not to fall down. It doesn't mean that I'm not in constant pain.

I have a point and here it is. How many trips to Vegas can you take on a few hundred dollars a month? Live and let live. Be happy it's not you.



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You are the exact example of someone who should be on disability. You WANT to work. Many people I have met do not (mostly men) want to work.
The person I know who goes to Vegas lives at home with his parents (in his 40's) and goes to Vegas a few times a year (a week at a time), AC, Horse Races. He is not sitting at home in pain. He has money to gamble, drink, etc.
THIS type of person should be looked at to see why they can do these things and not work.
I am so sorry for what you are going through and hope you get better.

Posted 10/20/12 6:30 PM
 

petunias
LIF Infant

Member since 4/12

295 total posts

Name:
Petunia

Re: Disability

Posted by MorningCuppaCoffee

Posted by Beautifulgirls

Ok, I'll bite.

I am considering applying for disability. I have a rare brain disorder. I was just diagnosed in June but I've been sick for many years. The doctors couldn't figure out what was wrong with me. I had nearly given up when one morning I woke up with pain and blurry vision in my left eye. I went through a series of invasive and less invasive tests, and then I was finally diagnosed. Although it was upsetting to be diagnosed with a life-long disease, I felt like I was finally getting some answers, and I hoped that with treatment I could get my life back and be normal again.

I'm very young. I had the same job for 10 years, and I've worked for half of my life. I can't even put into words how much I miss working. I can't even think about it without crying, and it has nothing to do with the money. I just loved it and now it's over.

I don't know if I'm ever going to get better, or worse god forbid. I can tell you that I'm very afraid. I'm only considering disability because I'm afraid. What if my husband loses his job? I can't have a lapse in medical care. I need medication, spinal taps, possibly surgery and revisions. What if he leaves me or something happens to him?

I want people to understand that this isn't something that you just jump into. You don't wake up one day and say hey I don't feel like working anymore. I haven't worked in almost a year and I still have not applied.

Most of my friends don't know that I'm sick. It's not something I'm ready to admit, not even to myself. It doesn't mean anything that a person doesn't look sick. I look sick now but I didn't for quite a while, and I'm sure I could still fool you on a good day. It doesn't mean that I don't spend half of my day laying down, and the other half trying not to fall down. It doesn't mean that I'm not in constant pain.

I have a point and here it is. How many trips to Vegas can you take on a few hundred dollars a month? Live and let live. Be happy it's not you.



Thank you for sharing your story.

I also feel like if someone who is disabled goes on a trip once a year or every few years, they are absolutely entitled to.

Especially if it brings some kind of joy into their lives.

I have worked with MANY disabled clients who go away, and it's because their family pays for them, so they can see them.

Doesn't take away their amount of pain (physical and emotional).

Many people I know in this situation also don't want to live here in NYS, but want to be close to their family, however, our state is fortunate to offer some of the best programs to help people in their situation, which is why they stay.

I can understand someone going through this process getting upset if they get denied (which I hear is pretty common with disability, and I often feel it's purposeful because they want to "weed out" people from using it).

But the holier-than-thou attitude towards people, especially people that one doesn't even know IRL enough to make some of the statements that are said..........and just the general toxic attitude towards people that it's ASSumed they are using the system......

You can't argue with stupid. Chat Icon



I do know these people IRL and many of them, unfortunately.

Posted 10/20/12 6:31 PM
 

petunias
LIF Infant

Member since 4/12

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Name:
Petunia

Re: Disability

Posted by gdubs

I was friends with a girl in high school whose dad was out on disability for his back although any time I was there he was doing yard work, mowing the lawn, working on the house... as someone who has had back problems my entire life and had spinal surgery in my 20's I can't imagine his back was THAT bad that he could be doing all of these things but not work.

On the flip side there are people who may not seem like they have a dsiability because it's not a physical disability, that doesn't mean they're "faking it."

There are always people who are going to take advantage and there are people who do things honestly.



Exactly what I was saying and unfortunately I know many of the people like your friend's father Chat Icon

Posted 10/20/12 6:32 PM
 

petunias
LIF Infant

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Petunia

Re: Disability

Posted by The Law Office of Kerie P. Stone

Do people not realize that disability does not fully replace a person's salary? Many of us on Long Island are barely getting by. Why do you think somehow you would then be able to afford luxuries if you were not working? That math does not add up. I tell my clients that even when we win them everything they are entitled to they won't get rich. It's a huge adjustment in lifestyle for most people. Yes, there are people collecting who should not be, but when you tell me that it's someone you only know remotely, why does that one person sour your view of everyone who is collecting? And please take a look at what the media does to your views.




Many of these people have won settlements and have spouses who work so this is just an extra income AND some of them help friends out to make extra money.

Posted 10/20/12 6:33 PM
 

Erica
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Re: Disability

One of my biggest frustrations with DS's illness is that because he looks great, people forget that he's battling a life threatening disease.

I called the school one morning telling them that he was sick and would be going to the hospital. Their response was that it's so great that his hair has grown back.

This isn't disability related, but just about not judging a book by it's cover.

Posted 10/20/12 8:22 PM
 

The Law Office of Kerie P. Stone
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Re: Disability

Posted by petunias

Posted by The Law Office of Kerie P. Stone

Do people not realize that disability does not fully replace a person's salary? Many of us on Long Island are barely getting by. Why do you think somehow you would then be able to afford luxuries if you were not working? That math does not add up. I tell my clients that even when we win them everything they are entitled to they won't get rich. It's a huge adjustment in lifestyle for most people. Yes, there are people collecting who should not be, but when you tell me that it's someone you only know remotely, why does that one person sour your view of everyone who is collecting? And please take a look at what the media does to your views.




Many of these people have won settlements and have spouses who work so this is just an extra income AND some of them help friends out to make extra money.




"These people" are my clients and I am well aware of their other sources of income. But I still do not get the assumption that finances are somehow easy for people who collect benefits when money is such an issue for most families. And I think you may be shocked but very few settlements will support a person for very long. And if there was a settlement, there was a major injury. There has been a lot of tort reform and people are not winning big for small injuries. They really never were. Obviously you have very strong beliefs. So get out there and fight for what you believe in. I'm glad I get to do that.

Posted 10/20/12 8:35 PM
 

The Law Office of Kerie P. Stone
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Re: Disability

and BTW, Social Security and Workers' Comp. and most private LTD policies have offset provisions, but I guess you knew that.

Message edited 10/20/2012 8:51:50 PM.

Posted 10/20/12 8:50 PM
 

petunias
LIF Infant

Member since 4/12

295 total posts

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Petunia

Re: Disability

Posted by The Law Office of Kerie P. Stone

Posted by petunias

Posted by The Law Office of Kerie P. Stone

Do people not realize that disability does not fully replace a person's salary? Many of us on Long Island are barely getting by. Why do you think somehow you would then be able to afford luxuries if you were not working? That math does not add up. I tell my clients that even when we win them everything they are entitled to they won't get rich. It's a huge adjustment in lifestyle for most people. Yes, there are people collecting who should not be, but when you tell me that it's someone you only know remotely, why does that one person sour your view of everyone who is collecting? And please take a look at what the media does to your views.




Many of these people have won settlements and have spouses who work so this is just an extra income AND some of them help friends out to make extra money.




"These people" are my clients and I am well aware of their other sources of income. But I still do not get the assumption that finances are somehow easy for people who collect benefits when money is such an issue for most families. And I think you may be shocked but very few settlements will support a person for very long. And if there was a settlement, there was a major injury. There has been a lot of tort reform and people are not winning big for small injuries. They really never were. Obviously you have very strong beliefs. So get out there and fight for what you believe in. I'm glad I get to do that.



Thanks, I do have strong beliefs on things like this as I have known so many people over the years who have scammed the system for welfare, wic and disability.
It gives these things such a bad rap while there are people who truly need the services.

Posted 10/20/12 10:23 PM
 

MorningCuppaCoffee
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Re: Disability

Posted by petunias

Posted by The Law Office of Kerie P. Stone

Do people not realize that disability does not fully replace a person's salary? Many of us on Long Island are barely getting by. Why do you think somehow you would then be able to afford luxuries if you were not working? That math does not add up. I tell my clients that even when we win them everything they are entitled to they won't get rich. It's a huge adjustment in lifestyle for most people. Yes, there are people collecting who should not be, but when you tell me that it's someone you only know remotely, why does that one person sour your view of everyone who is collecting? And please take a look at what the media does to your views.




Many of these people have won settlements and have spouses who work so this is just an extra income AND some of them help friends out to make extra money.



Seriously?

So you really think you can come on here now and say that since "many of these people" have a spouse, they don't need the income?

Listen, my DH is self-employed and already has physical issues.

I work F/T and could not support us both if he was to become disabled.

I think you need to start worrying about your OWN life, and stop being such a busy body worrying about other people you perceive as getting over.

Refer to my earlier comment about the ASSumptions.

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Posted 10/20/12 10:29 PM
 

MorningCuppaCoffee
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Re: Disability

And P.S. Petunias:

I love how in your OP you say you know a "few" people like this and all of a sudden, now it's "many".

Get your story straight ;).

Posted 10/20/12 10:33 PM
 

petunias
LIF Infant

Member since 4/12

295 total posts

Name:
Petunia

Re: Disability

Posted by MorningCuppaCoffee

Posted by petunias

Posted by The Law Office of Kerie P. Stone

Do people not realize that disability does not fully replace a person's salary? Many of us on Long Island are barely getting by. Why do you think somehow you would then be able to afford luxuries if you were not working? That math does not add up. I tell my clients that even when we win them everything they are entitled to they won't get rich. It's a huge adjustment in lifestyle for most people. Yes, there are people collecting who should not be, but when you tell me that it's someone you only know remotely, why does that one person sour your view of everyone who is collecting? And please take a look at what the media does to your views.




Many of these people have won settlements and have spouses who work so this is just an extra income AND some of them help friends out to make extra money.



Seriously?

So you really think you can come on here now and say that since "many of these people" have a spouse, they don't need the income?

Listen, my DH is self-employed and already has physical issues.

I work F/T and could not support us both if he was to become disabled.

I think you need to start worrying about your OWN life, and stop being such a busy body worrying about other people you perceive as getting over.

Refer to my earlier comment about the ASSumptions.

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Thanks for your advice. I don't lose any sleep over this. I am just stating my experiences and I am not the only one who has known someone like this. It is sad when there are people out here who really need the help and can not get it. I doubt it will ever change though as too many people like to take the easy way out in life.

Posted 10/20/12 10:33 PM
 

petunias
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Petunia

Re: Disability

Posted by MorningCuppaCoffee

And P.S. Petunias:

I love how in your OP you say you know a "few" people like this and all of a sudden, now it's "many".

Get your story straight ;).




Yes, many of the few-Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

Unfortunately I know (and have known) people like this for years.

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Posted 10/20/12 10:36 PM
 

The Law Office of Kerie P. Stone
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Re: Disability

Posted by petunias

Posted by MorningCuppaCoffee

And P.S. Petunias:

I love how in your OP you say you know a "few" people like this and all of a sudden, now it's "many".

Get your story straight ;).




Yes, many of the few-Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

Unfortunately I know (and have known) people like this for years.

I wish I only knew people who honestly needed these services Chat Icon



I agree that it takes 1 person to sour someone's view of the system but there is an overwhelming assumption in our society that most people who collect benefits are scamming. I have worked on all sides, government, not for profit and now in prvate practice and I've just never found that to be true. It takes a lot to get and keep these benefits and it's not as easy as just filling out forms and saying that you want to collect. And the people on WIC and welfare can't have much other reported income. If they are scamming then they are working off the books and their money is under a mattress. They would not have settlements and spouses who work on W-2s.

Posted 10/20/12 11:34 PM
 

The Law Office of Kerie P. Stone
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Re: Disability

If we could determine what percentage of the people who collect these benefits are scamming, I just think that it is a lot lower than most people believe.

Posted 10/20/12 11:38 PM
 

pharmcat2000
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Catherine

Re: Disability

I know of too many people to even begin to list them! It is truly infuriating!!! Especially those who work off the books doing physical labor or who own their own businesses and have it in their spouse's name. They're all doing better than I am, schlepping to work and staying up all night!!!

Posted 10/21/12 6:05 AM
 

MorningCuppaCoffee
Tired!

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Allison

Re: Disability

For the record, as well, ALL of the people two of the NYS programs I work for must have Medicaid to qualify.

In order to do this, ALL people who have a significant work history and "income" must pay into the Medicaid system.

That cost can be well over $1000 (often even more than that) a month.

As a result, many set up trusts and that $$$ is very closely monitored on what they can and cannot spend it on.

I know Kerie knows what she is talking about it this area as well, so I'd listen to her before I listened to someone else on here or somewhere else that is so convinced all of these people are scamming ;). That attitude can be very toxic and spread like wildfire.

I also have worked with hundreds of people since the late 90's and it's also very rare to find someone who works off the books.

Usually that is something that is picked up on pretty easily.

While I know this is a heated topic for many, because views tend to be soured by 1 person who *might* be getting over, for that 1 *possibility*, there are generally thousands more out there who really are not.

I also think the people who get so up in arms about this topic, generally are the same people who have the grass is greener syndrome to everything in life.

Just some food for thought.

Message edited 10/21/2012 8:07:23 AM.

Posted 10/21/12 8:05 AM
 
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