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dpli
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Re: On the subject of Occupy Wall St...

Posted by Jennie0898

I got news for you, I DO work and I DON'T have health insurance.

I work for a VERY small non-profit.

I'm debt FREE.

If something catastrophic befalls me health wise, I'm SCREWED.

BANKRUPTED.

I can only PRAY I don't get sick because GOD ONLY KNOWS how much something SERIOUS would cost.



THIS THIS THIS!

My first thought after reading the OP was it's great that she's busting her butt to get through school debt free and making it work on her 3 PT jobs. At 21-22 years old, one is generally pretty healthy. Heaven help her if she starts racking up some medical bills. A catastrophic illness or injury will ruin her is she doesn't have health insurance. It will be quick and ugly.

I heard on the radio this morning these numbers - you need $72k a year on LI just to make it, $200k to have no worries. I don't know the source but I believe it. It's not surprising to me, but saddens me.

I don't mind paying taxes to cover those who need help, it's the management of said taxes that get my knickers in a twist. And the fact that the middle class is carrying SO much of the burden.

I am debt free (except for my mortgage), and live below my means and I still worry. And anyone who thinks most of the 1% got there by busting their butts, without help from lots of others, either financial or from wealthy connections is delusional.

And Colette, I Chat Icon you.

Posted 10/18/11 12:50 PM
 
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Re: On the subject of Occupy Wall St...

Posted by JenniferEver

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I don't think anyone thinks that WHILE they are married. or I hope they don't.

I think this whole subthread is really a response to a PP who feels she's entitled to something even though she doesn't work because her DH does work, meanwhile other people who don't work are not entitled to anything.



Her DH works and pays into a family plan for her.

If something happened with her DH's job I am sure she would go back to work if needed. Right now her income isn't needed.

Couldn't the same things be said to a FTWM who opts out of her insurance plan because she is on her DH's family plan?



That's not the point.

It was a parallel between her saying that people who don't work and don't "contribute to society" shouldn't have insurance, and her position, which is that if you extend her argument, she doesn't contribute and shouldn't get insurance either. No one is saying that's actually the case. We're just trying to tell her to get off her high horse, but it isn't working.






Exactly. 2 different things

Posted 10/18/11 12:57 PM
 

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Re: On the subject of Occupy Wall St...

Posted by Woodsy

I have neither the time nor the inclination to respond to this thread except to make one point:

I skimmed this thread and I just have to compliment Hofstra26 on standing up for herself to the relentless unfair attacks that have been levied against her (e.g. calling her selfish, and saying that she is a drain on society as a SAHM.) She has been expressing a very common opinion regarding personal responsibility and individualism. I agree with her wholeheartedly.

To compare the legitimacy of her (and my) opinion to the legitimacy of racists or nazis is completely outrageous and unfair.



actually NO, not at all. her little family is socialist. they rely on each other completely for their needs. she is not an individualist in any way, b/c if she was, she'd have HER OWN JOB and HER OWN INSURANCE and wouldn't be teaming up with her dh for those things.

don't skim something and come at me with some weak opinion, deigning to do so at that.

Posted 10/18/11 1:01 PM
 

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Re: On the subject of Occupy Wall St...

my father always said "he would have to work ten years past his death"

and these days im beginning to think thats the case for a lot of folks :(

Posted 10/18/11 1:04 PM
 

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Re: On the subject of Occupy Wall St...

Posted by Ophelia

Posted by Woodsy

I have neither the time nor the inclination to respond to this thread except to make one point:

I skimmed this thread and I just have to compliment Hofstra26 on standing up for herself to the relentless unfair attacks that have been levied against her (e.g. calling her selfish, and saying that she is a drain on society as a SAHM.) She has been expressing a very common opinion regarding personal responsibility and individualism. I agree with her wholeheartedly.

To compare the legitimacy of her (and my) opinion to the legitimacy of racists or nazis is completely outrageous and unfair.



actually NO, not at all. her little family is socialist. they rely on each other completely for their needs. she is not an individualist in any way, b/c if she was, she'd have HER OWN JOB and HER OWN INSURANCE and wouldn't be teaming up with her dh for those things.

don't skim something and come at me with some weak opinion, deigning to do so at that.




Wow, you continue to insult and condescend about her "little family" that is in your perspective "socialist." I think they made individual choices that work for them. Good for them!

Sorry you don't appreciate my "weak opinion." I will say you seem to have lots of time to spout your opinions. Let me guess: You are a stay at home mom who doesn't contribute to society like Hofstra (Before I get jumped on for that, I am being sarcastic.) ..... Either that or you work for the government and have such time to waste.

(And to pre-empt the inevitable response: Yes, I work, I just have some down time right now and I am just wasting time waiting for some reports that should be delivered shortly...)

Posted 10/18/11 1:10 PM
 

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Re: On the subject of Occupy Wall St...

Posted by dpli

Posted by Jennie0898

I got news for you, I DO work and I DON'T have health insurance.

I work for a VERY small non-profit.

I'm debt FREE.

If something catastrophic befalls me health wise, I'm SCREWED.

BANKRUPTED.

I can only PRAY I don't get sick because GOD ONLY KNOWS how much something SERIOUS would cost.



THIS THIS THIS!

My first thought after reading the OP was it's great that she's busting her butt to get through school debt free and making it work on her 3 PT jobs. At 21-22 years old, one is generally pretty healthy. Heaven help her if she starts racking up some medical bills. A catastrophic illness or injury will ruin her is she doesn't have health insurance. It will be quick and ugly.

I heard on the radio this morning these numbers - you need $72k a year on LI just to make it, $200k to have no worries. I don't know the source but I believe it. It's not surprising to me, but saddens me.

I don't mind paying taxes to cover those who need help, it's the management of said taxes that get my knickers in a twist. And the fact that the middle class is carrying SO much of the burden.

I am debt free (except for my mortgage), and live below my means and I still worry. And anyone who thinks most of the 1% got there by busting their butts, without help from lots of others, either financial or from wealthy connections is delusional.




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Posted 10/18/11 1:15 PM
 

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Re: On the subject of Occupy Wall St...

Posted by Woodsy

Wow, you continue to insult and condescend about her "little family" that is in your perspective "socialist." I think they made individual choices that work for them. Good for them!

Sorry you don't appreciate my "weak opinion." I will say you seem to have lots of time to spout your opinions. Let me guess: You are a stay at home mom who doesn't contribute to society like Hofstra (Before I get jumped on for that, I am being sarcastic.) ..... Either that or you work for the government and have such time to waste.

(And to pre-empt the inevitable response: Yes, I work, I just have some down time right now and I am just wasting time waiting for some reports that should be delivered shortly...)




you read way too much into my posts to her. I think her little family is wonderful. I am not being condescending to her in any way. though if you choose to think that, by all means.

and yes, I do have lots of time to spout my opinions. just like I have lots of time to do the work I need to do. I am efficient like that. and my boss Chat Icon me. so it's all good by me.

but you are sitting here or there or anywhere, reading and commenting on my opinions (which although you don't have the time for, I knew you'd be back) so maybe you could use a little stuffing for your billable hours eh?

Posted 10/18/11 1:17 PM
 

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Re: On the subject of Occupy Wall St...

Posted by Jennie0898

Posted by dpli

Posted by Jennie0898

I got news for you, I DO work and I DON'T have health insurance.

I work for a VERY small non-profit.

I'm debt FREE.

If something catastrophic befalls me health wise, I'm SCREWED.

BANKRUPTED.

I can only PRAY I don't get sick because GOD ONLY KNOWS how much something SERIOUS would cost.



THIS THIS THIS!

My first thought after reading the OP was it's great that she's busting her butt to get through school debt free and making it work on her 3 PT jobs. At 21-22 years old, one is generally pretty healthy. Heaven help her if she starts racking up some medical bills. A catastrophic illness or injury will ruin her is she doesn't have health insurance. It will be quick and ugly.

I heard on the radio this morning these numbers - you need $72k a year on LI just to make it, $200k to have no worries. I don't know the source but I believe it. It's not surprising to me, but saddens me.

I don't mind paying taxes to cover those who need help, it's the management of said taxes that get my knickers in a twist. And the fact that the middle class is carrying SO much of the burden.

I am debt free (except for my mortgage), and live below my means and I still worry. And anyone who thinks most of the 1% got there by busting their butts, without help from lots of others, either financial or from wealthy connections is delusional.




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Um, you edited out a VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THIS QUOTE. You B*tch!!!!!!!

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Posted 10/18/11 1:17 PM
 

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Re: On the subject of Occupy Wall St...

Posted by colette

Posted by Jennie0898

Posted by dpli

Posted by Jennie0898

I got news for you, I DO work and I DON'T have health insurance.

I work for a VERY small non-profit.

I'm debt FREE.

If something catastrophic befalls me health wise, I'm SCREWED.

BANKRUPTED.

I can only PRAY I don't get sick because GOD ONLY KNOWS how much something SERIOUS would cost.



THIS THIS THIS!

My first thought after reading the OP was it's great that she's busting her butt to get through school debt free and making it work on her 3 PT jobs. At 21-22 years old, one is generally pretty healthy. Heaven help her if she starts racking up some medical bills. A catastrophic illness or injury will ruin her is she doesn't have health insurance. It will be quick and ugly.

I heard on the radio this morning these numbers - you need $72k a year on LI just to make it, $200k to have no worries. I don't know the source but I believe it. It's not surprising to me, but saddens me.

I don't mind paying taxes to cover those who need help, it's the management of said taxes that get my knickers in a twist. And the fact that the middle class is carrying SO much of the burden.

I am debt free (except for my mortgage), and live below my means and I still worry. And anyone who thinks most of the 1% got there by busting their butts, without help from lots of others, either financial or from wealthy connections is delusional.




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Um, you edited out a VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THIS QUOTE. You B*tch!!!!!!!

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Posted 10/18/11 1:18 PM
 

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Re: On the subject of Occupy Wall St...

I don't know what the answer is.

What I can say is that something needs to change. I have been extremely blessed in my life. My parents paid for 4 years of college so that I could graduate with a degree and no student loans to have to pay back.

I was extremely fortunate to land in my current company 11 years ago and have had access to health insurance ever since. And pretty much every year, I have endured the talk of "lay offs" and wondered if I would make it to see the next year. Fortunately, I have every year. Who knows what tomorrow brings.

I fear for my DC. What is going to happen to them when they graduate college and cannot find a job? What happens if they find several part time jobs to make ends meet, none of which provide them with health insurance and they are too old to be on my insurance? What happens if they need to go to the doctor? I just saw the bill from when I took my DD to the emergency room on a Sunday afternoon because of a dislocated elbow. Almost $1500. We were there for less than a half hour. That's not even talking about a serious illness that will cost tens of thousands of dollars to treat. How do people barely scraping by pay those bills? We have insurance so my portion is about $200, but what if you don't have it? Hard working people end up going into collections for medical bills they can't afford and ruin their credit. All because the cost to get private health insurance is ASTRONOMICAL and your average person cannot afford it.

My FIL does not have medical insurance. He is 66 years old and works every day for a driving school giving lessons. Some might say that he should find a job that gives him benefits. But in this economy, just try to find a full time insurance providing job when you are 66 years old. I wonder every day when the shoe is going to drop and he needs to get medical attention. My DH is an only child so the bills will most likely head in our direction.

The system is broken. And like I said I don't know how to fix it. But I also recognize that there are many circumstances that put people in the position of not having health insurance and I am not going to judge since I could be in that same position tomorrow.

Posted 10/18/11 1:27 PM
 

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Re: On the subject of Occupy Wall St...

Reading this thread and my eyes are filled with tears about how heartless some posters can be. Sometimes people need to start thinking about each other a bit more.Chat Icon Chat Icon

Posted 10/18/11 1:51 PM
 

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Re: On the subject of Occupy Wall St...

Posted by Hofstra26

Just because my view differs does not mean I'm selfish, self centered, clueless, or inhumane. This has NOTHING to do with personal character or even a lack of compassion.




But by the same token, you shouldn't be able to be selfish, self-centered, clueless and inhumane, but not be chastised because they're just your views. Your views are who you are. They're what you value and what matter to you. How do they not have anything to do with personal character?

Message edited 10/18/2011 2:13:21 PM.

Posted 10/18/11 2:12 PM
 

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Re: On the subject of Occupy Wall St...

Posted by 2PreciousBlessings

Reading this thread and my eyes are filled with tears about how heartless some posters can be. Sometimes people need to start thinking about each other a bit more.Chat Icon Chat Icon



It's echoed in the political debates, too.

If I have a job it's because I'm AWESOME. If you don't it's because you're not working hard enough.

If you don't have health insurance, you should just die. Sucks to be you

Posted 10/18/11 2:17 PM
 

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Re: On the subject of Occupy Wall St...

Woodsy.

You're not exempt from reading the entire thread just because you feel like it.

Hofstra26 said that people who contribute nothing to society in terms of earning a paycheck, paying into social security, a health insurance plan, whatever... since those are BENEFITS, that they don't deserve healthcare.

Ophelia and OTHERS said that since she's a SAHM, technically she's not doing any of those things herself.

She argued that her DH is doing it for her.

Some people don't agree that she's any different from any other unemployed person not paying into any of those funds.

You need to READ before passing judgment.

Of course Hofstra26 is entitled to her opinion, as much as others are for pointing out the obvious discrepancies between her views of others and how she views herself.

Please, just READ.

Posted 10/18/11 2:28 PM
 

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Re: On the subject of Occupy Wall St...

Posted by annoyedTTCer

Posted by Jennie0898

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by Hofstra26
And I may be "jobless" but I don't consider my DH's money HIS money. He works to provide for OUR family. It's OUR money. And we use OUR money to pay into OUR health benefits.



Ha! I'm sure he feels that way too, especially when he's stuck in some bullpoop meeting, or stuck on a train or in traffic during his commute. Yeah, I'm SURE he's thinking it sucks for the BOTH of you. Don't kid yourself, it's HIS money, HIS salary. You're just LUCKY he's sharing it with you.





WOW..some of your comments ladies are disgusting!!





Posted 10/18/11 2:40 PM
 

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Re: On the subject of Occupy Wall St...

Posted by Kmarie36

Posted by Jennie0898

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by Hofstra26
And I may be "jobless" but I don't consider my DH's money HIS money. He works to provide for OUR family. It's OUR money. And we use OUR money to pay into OUR health benefits.



Ha! I'm sure he feels that way too, especially when he's stuck in some bullpoop meeting, or stuck on a train or in traffic during his commute. Yeah, I'm SURE he's thinking it sucks for the BOTH of you. Don't kid yourself, it's HIS money, HIS salary. You're just LUCKY he's sharing it with you.





WOW..some of your comments ladies are disgusting!!




And all you took from this thread of TEN pages was this??

Wow.


ETA: I'm almost insulted for BOTH sides of this debate.

Message edited 10/18/2011 3:01:45 PM.

Posted 10/18/11 3:01 PM
 

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Re: On the subject of Occupy Wall St...

Posted by Jennie0898

Posted by Kmarie36

Posted by Jennie0898

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by Hofstra26
And I may be "jobless" but I don't consider my DH's money HIS money. He works to provide for OUR family. It's OUR money. And we use OUR money to pay into OUR health benefits.



Ha! I'm sure he feels that way too, especially when he's stuck in some bullpoop meeting, or stuck on a train or in traffic during his commute. Yeah, I'm SURE he's thinking it sucks for the BOTH of you. Don't kid yourself, it's HIS money, HIS salary. You're just LUCKY he's sharing it with you.





WOW..some of your comments ladies are disgusting!!




And all you took from this thread of TEN pages was this??

Wow.

ETA: I'm almost insulted for BOTH sides of this debate.



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Posted 10/18/11 3:05 PM
 

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Re: On the subject of Occupy Wall St...

Wow! I have to say I find this thread outrageous! Personally, I love a meaningful debate but the level of bullying on this thread undermines any intelligent conversation. Everyone has different views informed by their life experiences. If an opposing offends you, make an argument using facts not personal attacks. Such personal attacks discredit any otherwise valid points and makes one seem "small". Grown women should not act this way.

I find discourse invigorating and this discourse has a lot of passion which is great but unfortunately, what appears to be a lack of substance on all sides. There seems to be a lack of comprehension on the most basic of tenets of economic theory. None of the issues being discussed by ows are new and none of the " solutions" are new. All of these ideas have been explore by economists etc ad naseum the problem is that not all problems have solutions.

Take for instance - outsourcing. Everyone agrees that outsourcing is bad. However,finding a workable solution is problematic. Let's use the auto industry as an example. We have an American auto company, let's call the GM. It costs them x to manufacturer a car, that includes the actual cost plus the costs of UAW so benefits, salaries, pensions etc. Now, on the other side we have Japanese car company, it costs them x-50 to produce a similar car because they dont have to deal with the UAW. So the problem is the price elasticity of demand - meaning the intersection of the price at which the demand from the consumer will be the greatest. So if that number or price, if you will is y, it is clear that Japan company will be making more per vehicle than GM. So what are gm's options?

1. They can increase the price of the vehicle so that they are making e same profit except who wants to buy a more expensive product when they can get the same for less.

Or, 2. Reduce quality, which will ultimately reduce reliability and thus sales.

In the end you can't compete and then u go bankrupt.

This example can be extrapolated to any manufacturing. So while we can control what happens in the us we cannot control non US companies from producing cheaper products and selling them here thus pricing American made goods out of the market. And well, Americans want to pay as little as they can for the best quality they can and they do not discriminate.

So then I guess we can stop free trade, but then other countries will do the same to us. Or impose higher tariffs and then again face the same from other countries.

Anyway, the point of my diatribe is to demonstrate that while many things may " seem" common sense, in practice it is unworkable.

Marxism seemed like a good common sense experiment but look at how that little experiment turned out for Cuba.

Posted 10/18/11 3:12 PM
 

JenniferEver
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Re: On the subject of Occupy Wall St...

Posted by Jennie0898


Oh so because you CHOOSE to not work it's ok?

I got news for you, I DO work and I DON'T have health insurance.

I work for a VERY small non-profit.

I'm debt FREE.

If something catastrophic befalls me health wise, I'm SCREWED.

BANKRUPTED.

Do you know how much it cost me to go to my OB/GYN for my annual and get a PAP smear? $1127. Now to me, that's BASIC healthcare - I paid it and SUCKED IT UP but rest assured I bet the cost has NEVER even crossed your mind.

I can only PRAY I don't get sick because GOD ONLY KNOWS how much something SERIOUS would cost.

It's so SAD that you would even think people aren't deserving of the same GREAT healthcare.

Who are YOU to put ANY sort of value on someone's life?

By your own admission you don't work. YOU don't contribute. I guess by YOUR logic YOU shouldn't have any healthcare since it's NOT YOUR SALARY paying for it.

Very sad.




Jennie this is YOUR fault, You CHOSE to work for a non-profit. You could have chosen to get a more profitable degree (no idea what your degree is in), and you could have chosen to work for a soul-sucking corporation to get benefits.

You just need to stop buying Starbucks and set aside the money to buy your own health insurance.

i'm bitter and resentful because I had to give up my dream to work for a big corporation to get health benefits and i do NOT want to pay your way.

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Posted 10/18/11 3:13 PM
 

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Re: On the subject of Occupy Wall St...

Posted by MommyAgain

sorry but my view on this, comes from gut and morals..

That bum on the street, you have no friggen idea what their story is..maybe they were a baby born into it, maybe they had millions, and blew it..maybe they dont give a cr*p about your "society" and usually those are the homeless that wont even go to shelters or hospitals when theyre sick..

That drug addict..the one over there, who may or may not be related to your friend, cousin, daughter, neighbor, brother..

i cannot stand the "well, im better then THAT one over there" mentality...some of you need to pick up a bible, or go to temple or wherever you may worship and ask yourselves if ignoring simple humanity bc they choose, or just happen to get stuck with a different, less endearing path then you is ok with your soul. If you still feel "right" with your answer, please msg me, so i can pray that nothing terrible ever happens to you that would put you in these undesirable situations. We're talking about human life people. Now i know why i stay off here. Chat Icon



This, more than anything, is why we are screwed. We saw it with the healthcare debate and we're seeing it again. Too many people don't give a **** about anyone but themselves and the immediate people in their world. They don't realize how fortunate they are.

I work hard, but I will never overlook the fact that having intelligent parents who took care of me the way they were supposed to helped, that I was born white and middle class, that my family valued education and hard work. Many people are not as fortunate, but that gets lost in all the "me, me, me."

Posted 10/18/11 3:13 PM
 

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Re: On the subject of Occupy Wall St...

Sorry for all the typos above. I am writing from my iPad at the airport and can't edit.

Posted 10/18/11 3:15 PM
 

HoneyBadger
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Re: On the subject of Occupy Wall St...

Posted by JenniferEver

Posted by Jennie0898


Oh so because you CHOOSE to not work it's ok?

I got news for you, I DO work and I DON'T have health insurance.

I work for a VERY small non-profit.

I'm debt FREE.

If something catastrophic befalls me health wise, I'm SCREWED.

BANKRUPTED.

Do you know how much it cost me to go to my OB/GYN for my annual and get a PAP smear? $1127. Now to me, that's BASIC healthcare - I paid it and SUCKED IT UP but rest assured I bet the cost has NEVER even crossed your mind.

I can only PRAY I don't get sick because GOD ONLY KNOWS how much something SERIOUS would cost.

It's so SAD that you would even think people aren't deserving of the same GREAT healthcare.

Who are YOU to put ANY sort of value on someone's life?

By your own admission you don't work. YOU don't contribute. I guess by YOUR logic YOU shouldn't have any healthcare since it's NOT YOUR SALARY paying for it.

Very sad.




Jennie this is YOUR fault, You CHOSE to work for a non-profit. You could have chosen to get a more profitable degree (no idea what your degree is in), and you could have chosen to work for a soul-sucking corporation to get benefits.

You just need to stop buying Starbucks and set aside the money to buy your own health insurance.

i'm bitter and resentful because I had to give up my dream to work for a big corporation to get health benefits and i do NOT want to pay your way.

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I will NEVER give up my starbucks and I'm thoroughly insulted you would even suggest something as ludicrous as that!

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Posted 10/18/11 3:20 PM
 

Ophelia
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Re: On the subject of Occupy Wall St...

sticky, you say there is bullying and peole make outrageous comments, and then insult everyone who made a point on this thread. Chat Icon

"I find discourse invigorating and this discourse has a lot of passion which is great but unfortunately, what appears to be a lack of substance on all sides. There seems to be a lack of comprehension on the most basic of tenets of economic theory."

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ok awesome. no more personal attacks. Chat Icon

Posted 10/18/11 3:21 PM
 

tara73
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Re: On the subject of Occupy Wall St...

Posted by Jennie0898

Posted by JenniferEver

Posted by Jennie0898


Oh so because you CHOOSE to not work it's ok?

I got news for you, I DO work and I DON'T have health insurance.

I work for a VERY small non-profit.

I'm debt FREE.

If something catastrophic befalls me health wise, I'm SCREWED.

BANKRUPTED.

Do you know how much it cost me to go to my OB/GYN for my annual and get a PAP smear? $1127. Now to me, that's BASIC healthcare - I paid it and SUCKED IT UP but rest assured I bet the cost has NEVER even crossed your mind.

I can only PRAY I don't get sick because GOD ONLY KNOWS how much something SERIOUS would cost.

It's so SAD that you would even think people aren't deserving of the same GREAT healthcare.

Who are YOU to put ANY sort of value on someone's life?

By your own admission you don't work. YOU don't contribute. I guess by YOUR logic YOU shouldn't have any healthcare since it's NOT YOUR SALARY paying for it.

Very sad.




Jennie this is YOUR fault, You CHOSE to work for a non-profit. You could have chosen to get a more profitable degree (no idea what your degree is in), and you could have chosen to work for a soul-sucking corporation to get benefits.

You just need to stop buying Starbucks and set aside the money to buy your own health insurance.

i'm bitter and resentful because I had to give up my dream to work for a big corporation to get health benefits and i do NOT want to pay your way.

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I will NEVER give up my starbucks and I'm thoroughly insulted you would even suggest something as ludicrous as that!

Does that make me a system sucking addict? Chat Icon




Yep. You're a societal drain and since you have no insurance, we can't send you to rehab for said addiction. I'm sorry. You'll have to find a new way to get your fix. Have you considered panhandling?

ETA: I bet you're good looking. How is your balance in lucite heels? Can you hang on a pole? Stripping could help you fund your habit............

Message edited 10/18/2011 3:23:41 PM.

Posted 10/18/11 3:22 PM
 

JenniferEver
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Re: On the subject of Occupy Wall St...

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Oh so because you CHOOSE to not work it's ok?

I got news for you, I DO work and I DON'T have health insurance.

I work for a VERY small non-profit.

I'm debt FREE.

If something catastrophic befalls me health wise, I'm SCREWED.

BANKRUPTED.

Do you know how much it cost me to go to my OB/GYN for my annual and get a PAP smear? $1127. Now to me, that's BASIC healthcare - I paid it and SUCKED IT UP but rest assured I bet the cost has NEVER even crossed your mind.

I can only PRAY I don't get sick because GOD ONLY KNOWS how much something SERIOUS would cost.

It's so SAD that you would even think people aren't deserving of the same GREAT healthcare.

Who are YOU to put ANY sort of value on someone's life?

By your own admission you don't work. YOU don't contribute. I guess by YOUR logic YOU shouldn't have any healthcare since it's NOT YOUR SALARY paying for it.

Very sad.




Jennie this is YOUR fault, You CHOSE to work for a non-profit. You could have chosen to get a more profitable degree (no idea what your degree is in), and you could have chosen to work for a soul-sucking corporation to get benefits.

You just need to stop buying Starbucks and set aside the money to buy your own health insurance.

i'm bitter and resentful because I had to give up my dream to work for a big corporation to get health benefits and i do NOT want to pay your way.

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I will NEVER give up my starbucks and I'm thoroughly insulted you would even suggest something as ludicrous as that!

Does that make me a system sucking addict? Chat Icon




Yep. You're a societal drain and since you have no insurance, we can't send you to rehab for said addiction. I'm sorry. You'll have to find a new way to get your fix. Have you considered panhandling?



I bet she has an iPad, too

Posted 10/18/11 3:23 PM
 
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