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what is going to happen to people of different color or LGBT community under Trump??
So supporting Hillary is any better? She supports countries that throw gay/lesbian people off cliffs??
OMG...all this back and forth needs to stop.
I honestly think half of the people protesting (and people who have a problem in general with the outcome, the ones I know personally) just don't like that Trump is white, Republican and wealthy. That he is not a democrat and they don't think he stands for them (not my president). It's not entirely about what they think will happen to someone not white, or LGBT under him. They make up all kinds of other nonsense of why they don't like him but it's classism and racism in itself for many. That's why I think it's many young white kids protesting, they are jumping on the train as if it were their plight, it's the in thing to do to. Obama was black and hip and Hillary is a woman (both minorities or suppressed populations in history) and she would have be progressive in their eyes vs Trump.
When like you said, Hillary supports countries that are terrorist towards the US and have no tolerance for women or anyone Lgbt worthy of death to them. Many of these protestors are jumping on a bandwagon vs looking at the actual realities here.
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Every white liberal I ever met who cries and screams about trump racism lives in a pure white neighborhood. Hypocrisy at the highest level.
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Re: Yes, the people HAVE spoken
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And until January, it's still Obama's job to calm people and expect his and Hillary's supporters to stop creating chaos b/c they didn't get their way.
Its incredibly patronizing to say people are creating chaos because they "didn't get their way".
People are SCARED. I'm not scared personally. I am white and straight. Can you not understand that people of color, people of different religions and people who are LGBT are seriously AFRAID of what might happen to them? You can go to sleep at night knowing that your marriage won't be made null, that the future vice president didn't want to jail you for applying for a marriage license. You can go to sleep at night knowing that you can leave and re-enter the country freely, and that any relatives you may have overseas can come visit you at any time without fear. You can go to sleep at night knowing you won't be deported. A little empathy would go a long way. Nothing like this happened when GWB was elected. People are TERRIFIED and rightly so.
I want to openly THANK people like you who are "white and straight" but understand and empathize with the emotions and fear that millions of Americans are feeling. I truly thank you and wish you peace. God Bless America.
"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."
I see so many hypocrites on my own Facebook feeds. People I know personally who mock others often for their looks, etc, then have a problem with Trump. People who are racist in their own right or judgmental towards others who are different than them (looks, thoughts, etc). But they defend the Trump protestors. As evidenced on these political threads as well, most of the "vocal" ones are the least tolerant and respecting of other's views. So call me a skeptic, but I don't buy many of the protestors (not all, but many) are championing for other's rights.
I agree. I was going to give specific examples but does anyone really care lol. Trump and Clinton supporters alike, I've found a lot of people to be very hypocritical lately.
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Meg1234
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Re: Yes, the people HAVE spoken
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And until January, it's still Obama's job to calm people and expect his and Hillary's supporters to stop creating chaos b/c they didn't get their way.
Its incredibly patronizing to say people are creating chaos because they "didn't get their way".
People are SCARED. I'm not scared personally. I am white and straight. Can you not understand that people of color, people of different religions and people who are LGBT are seriously AFRAID of what might happen to them? You can go to sleep at night knowing that your marriage won't be made null, that the future vice president didn't want to jail you for applying for a marriage license. You can go to sleep at night knowing that you can leave and re-enter the country freely, and that any relatives you may have overseas can come visit you at any time without fear. You can go to sleep at night knowing you won't be deported. A little empathy would go a long way. Nothing like this happened when GWB was elected. People are TERRIFIED and rightly so.
I want to openly THANK people like you who are "white and straight" but understand and empathize with the emotions and fear that millions of Americans are feeling. I truly thank you and wish you peace. God Bless America.
"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."
I see so many hypocrites on my own Facebook feeds. People I know personally who mock others often for their looks, etc, then have a problem with Trump. People who are racist in their own right or judgmental towards others who are different than them (looks, thoughts, etc). But they defend the Trump protestors. As evidenced on these political threads as well, most of the "vocal" ones are the least tolerant and respecting of other's views. So call me a skeptic, but I don't buy many of the protestors (not all, but many) are championing for other's rights.
I agree. I was going to give specific examples but does anyone really care lol. Trump and Clinton supporters alike, I've found a lot of people to be very hypocritical lately.
I know someone who constantly champions for Lgbt re Trump…but yet took a picture of a local community member who dresses in drag and mocked them on Facebook a few months back. I can see right through that stuff and if I wanted to get into disputes with people I know, it would be very easy to call them on their hypocrisy.
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Every white liberal I ever met who cries and screams about trump racism lives in a pure white neighborhood. Hypocrisy at the highest level.
I don't understand this logic... I lived in the "melting pot" of NYC for 10yrs but I moved to what happens to be a predominantly white suburb for reasons having absolutely zero to do with that... So that translates into being a hypocrite for thinking racism is wrong? If I said I grew up in the Bronx (which I did) does that give me more "street cred" in having that same opinion on racists? I am far from a screaming liberal, in fact I'm a registered Republican, but I find this statement ridiculous.
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Posted by Meg1234
As evidenced on these political threads as well, most of the "vocal" ones are the least tolerant and respecting of other's views.
Not being snarky, but please explain to me how I can be tolerant of someone who has racist tendencies (this includes voting for someone who shows the same trait)?
Because what I'm hearing is that I should be tolerant to racist views. I don't see someone being racist as an "opinion."
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Re: Yes, the people HAVE spoken
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Posted by Meg1234
As evidenced on these political threads as well, most of the "vocal" ones are the least tolerant and respecting of other's views.
Not being snarky, but please explain to me how I can be tolerant of someone who has racist tendencies (this includes voting for someone who shows the same trait)?
Because what I'm hearing is that I should be tolerant to racist views. I don't see someone being racist as an "opinion."
If you spell out what you believe Trump to be racist on, I will then reply. Because I am not of the belief Trump has racist views (he has views but many of them have simply been twisted to be racist IMO).
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Posted by Meg1234
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Posted by Meg1234
As evidenced on these political threads as well, most of the "vocal" ones are the least tolerant and respecting of other's views.
Not being snarky, but please explain to me how I can be tolerant of someone who has racist tendencies (this includes voting for someone who shows the same trait)?
Because what I'm hearing is that I should be tolerant to racist views. I don't see someone being racist as an "opinion."
If you spell out what you believe Trump to be racist on, I will then reply. Because I am not of the belief Trump has racist views (he has views but many of them have simply been twisted to be racist IMO).
There are hundreds of things he has said that are xenophobic, sexist, racist, sexual predator like, etc. I'm not going to spell them all out for you.
There is a long list on the NYtimes that you can look up. But here's a short list to make things easier for you.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34903577
ETA: I have to run, so this post was done quickly. But if you easily look around on the Internet you can see a lot of crappy things he has said.
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Every white liberal I ever met who cries and screams about trump racism lives in a pure white neighborhood. Hypocrisy at the highest level.
I never used understand this sentiment until very recently. And it's something that people forget or don't even see. I'm going to touch on your point.
I will say this… It appears to me that when Trump bashed Muslims, Mexicans, black people, it would get coverage and people would be angered… But it wasn't until he said stuff about white women the people lost their shit.
And now that's he's been elected president,I've never seen more white people angry than right now. all of a sudden they are so angry at these injustices -racism and sexism, etc.
I'm pretty vocal about stuff like that… And a lot of times I've been the only one saying something and people would be rolling their eyes… Saying yeah, racism exists but what are you going to do nothings ever going to change… i'm very pro protesting… I believe it's our right and I love to see people organize and speak out but everyone was really annoyed when it was black lives matter and stuff… But now that it's anti-Trump, it's OK. Now suddenly People seem to have open their eyes and saying racism is unacceptable. Now people seem to get it… But it is interesting why it took this long.
I want to say it feels really hypocritical but I don't want to think that.
Of course it doesn't go for all people because I know that there are some political savvy people here and stuff and I'm sure that they walk the walk. I'm not talking about those people, I'm talking about these other people who have popped up angry now.
No I'm not bashing anyone and you know what everyone feels how they feel for their own reasons and at this point I just want to respect everyone as best as I can and try to understand where they're coming from… Because I believe in the good of people… But it does make me think about things.
Sorry this is all jumbled. I'm doing voice to text.
I think we all need to come together and try to find common ground and listen to one another… And reflect… On our own lives and how we think and we can all change for the better here. That's the only way we're going to get progress.
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Re: Yes, the people HAVE spoken
Posted by Meg1234
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Posted by Meg1234
As evidenced on these political threads as well, most of the "vocal" ones are the least tolerant and respecting of other's views.
Not being snarky, but please explain to me how I can be tolerant of someone who has racist tendencies (this includes voting for someone who shows the same trait)?
Because what I'm hearing is that I should be tolerant to racist views. I don't see someone being racist as an "opinion."
If you spell out what you believe Trump to be racist on, I will then reply. Because I am not of the belief Trump has racist views (he has views but many of them have simply been twisted to be racist IMO).
I'm pretty sure one of DT's former staffers has stated that Donald Trump said that he doesn't want a black man counting his money. Referring to an AA man working in his accounting department at one of his hotels. Of course all of the Trump supporters will say that person is lying. That's the answer to every disgusting action or statement that comes up. Heck, we all saw him mock that reporter with special needs, and everyone has said he didn't do that.
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Yes, the people HAVE spoken
I also want to add something.
Some people are happy, many more are angry and upset and scared and worried. But we all live in the same country together. This is democracy. This is our country, for better or for worse. And countries are more vulnerable when their people are divided and in shambles
If you're upset or angry or whatever, do something good… Volunteer, do something nice for somebody else, bridge the gap. Start a small organization in your community. Donate time or a gift to a mosque, or a gay youth center, or wherever Speak kind words, or write a nice letter to someone in your community who is different then you in someway… Tell them that you appreciate them and you are with them. Reassuring people can go a long way… Or simply, join a protest if you wish.
That is what we need more of… Not fighting and arguing.
That is what Obama and Hillary told us to do. That's what they are doing with Trump… We need to do our part too.
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Re: Yes, the people HAVE spoken
Posted by BargainMama
Posted by Meg1234
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by Meg1234
As evidenced on these political threads as well, most of the "vocal" ones are the least tolerant and respecting of other's views.
Not being snarky, but please explain to me how I can be tolerant of someone who has racist tendencies (this includes voting for someone who shows the same trait)?
Because what I'm hearing is that I should be tolerant to racist views. I don't see someone being racist as an "opinion."
If you spell out what you believe Trump to be racist on, I will then reply. Because I am not of the belief Trump has racist views (he has views but many of them have simply been twisted to be racist IMO).
I'm pretty sure one of DT's former staffers has stated that Donald Trump said that he doesn't want a black man counting his money. Referring to an AA man working in his accounting department at one of his hotels. Of course all of the Trump supporters will say that person is lying. That's the answer to every disgusting action or statement that comes up. Heck, we all saw him mock that reporter with special needs, and everyone has said he didn't do that.
You are right I also read that he did say that and to finish that story he also made fun of the jewish community because he wanted a jewish person to count his money not a black man.
I personally do not think Trump is racist down to his core. I think he suffers from foot in mouth disease and doesn't know when to keep things in his "thought bubble". He thinks he is being funny but it is not and then gets blown out of proportion. I am sure there are multiple things that can be posted that Trump said that people deem racist but you can also do a search and find things that make Hillary and the Clintons racists. The only difference is that Hillary has learned after many years in the public eye when to keep her mouth shut.
Regardless of what people feel, he is our President-elect and we need to give him a chance. That is what this country is about. If you don't like him, vote him out in 4 years but by keeping the country divided, protesting and calling him not your president (not anyone here but what is on tv) then you are further creating a divide.
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Yes, the people HAVE spoken
Did anyone just catch the Obama/Trump meeting in the Oval Office?
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Re: Yes, the people HAVE spoken
Posted by BargainMama
Posted by Meg1234
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by Meg1234
As evidenced on these political threads as well, most of the "vocal" ones are the least tolerant and respecting of other's views.
Not being snarky, but please explain to me how I can be tolerant of someone who has racist tendencies (this includes voting for someone who shows the same trait)?
Because what I'm hearing is that I should be tolerant to racist views. I don't see someone being racist as an "opinion."
If you spell out what you believe Trump to be racist on, I will then reply. Because I am not of the belief Trump has racist views (he has views but many of them have simply been twisted to be racist IMO).
I'm pretty sure one of DT's former staffers has stated that Donald Trump said that he doesn't want a black man counting his money. Referring to an AA man working in his accounting department at one of his hotels. Of course all of the Trump supporters will say that person is lying. That's the answer to every disgusting action or statement that comes up. Heck, we all saw him mock that reporter with special needs, and everyone has said he didn't do that.
I just watched the video of DT "mocking" the handicap reporter. I will say, I personally walk with a limp and have had since an injury as a child. I also have a handicap parking pass for the medical problem I have. I honestly don't view what he did as horrible and mocking. That's just my opinion. I had a friend once imitate me when I was in my 20s, and to be me, she walked with a limp. Instead of getting offended and calling the person a horrible person, I realized that is the way I walk and so if someone were trying to act like me, they might do that and I get that. It didn't shatter me in any way nor make her a horrible person. The same can be said when any SNL comedian portrays a person, they will pick obvious mannerisms, traits, etc. I don't see the big deal at ALL in this. Too many are oversensitive about these things IMO.
About the black man with his money…I can't comment. I Know nothing about that.
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Re: Yes, the people HAVE spoken
Posted by Meg1234
Posted by BargainMama
Posted by Meg1234
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by Meg1234
As evidenced on these political threads as well, most of the "vocal" ones are the least tolerant and respecting of other's views.
Not being snarky, but please explain to me how I can be tolerant of someone who has racist tendencies (this includes voting for someone who shows the same trait)?
Because what I'm hearing is that I should be tolerant to racist views. I don't see someone being racist as an "opinion."
If you spell out what you believe Trump to be racist on, I will then reply. Because I am not of the belief Trump has racist views (he has views but many of them have simply been twisted to be racist IMO).
I'm pretty sure one of DT's former staffers has stated that Donald Trump said that he doesn't want a black man counting his money. Referring to an AA man working in his accounting department at one of his hotels. Of course all of the Trump supporters will say that person is lying. That's the answer to every disgusting action or statement that comes up. Heck, we all saw him mock that reporter with special needs, and everyone has said he didn't do that.
I just watched the video of DT "mocking" the handicap reporter. I will say, I personally walk with a limp and have had since an injury as a child. I also have a handicap parking pass for the medical problem I have. I honestly don't view what he did as horrible and mocking. That's just my opinion. I had a friend once imitate me when I was in my 20s, and to be me, she walked with a limp. Instead of getting offended and calling the person a horrible person, I realized that is the way I walk and so if someone were trying to act like me, they might do that and I get that. It didn't shatter me in any way nor make her a horrible person. The same can be said when any SNL comedian portrays a person, they will pick obvious mannerisms, traits, etc. I don't see the big deal at ALL in this. Too many are oversensitive about these things IMO.
About the black man with his money…I can't comment. I Know nothing about that.
Oh stop. How can you watch that and not see that as being a derogatory action against the man he is mocking? Let's call a spade a spade. Totally different than your friend trying to "be you" and limp like you. But, exactly my point. You, also being a supporter of DT, don't see anything wrong with that.
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Re: Yes, the people HAVE spoken
Posted by Meg1234
Posted by BargainMama
Posted by Meg1234
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by Meg1234
As evidenced on these political threads as well, most of the "vocal" ones are the least tolerant and respecting of other's views.
Not being snarky, but please explain to me how I can be tolerant of someone who has racist tendencies (this includes voting for someone who shows the same trait)?
Because what I'm hearing is that I should be tolerant to racist views. I don't see someone being racist as an "opinion."
If you spell out what you believe Trump to be racist on, I will then reply. Because I am not of the belief Trump has racist views (he has views but many of them have simply been twisted to be racist IMO).
I'm pretty sure one of DT's former staffers has stated that Donald Trump said that he doesn't want a black man counting his money. Referring to an AA man working in his accounting department at one of his hotels. Of course all of the Trump supporters will say that person is lying. That's the answer to every disgusting action or statement that comes up. Heck, we all saw him mock that reporter with special needs, and everyone has said he didn't do that.
I just watched the video of DT "mocking" the handicap reporter. I will say, I personally walk with a limp and have had since an injury as a child. I also have a handicap parking pass for the medical problem I have. I honestly don't view what he did as horrible and mocking. That's just my opinion. I had a friend once imitate me when I was in my 20s, and to be me, she walked with a limp. Instead of getting offended and calling the person a horrible person, I realized that is the way I walk and so if someone were trying to act like me, they might do that and I get that. It didn't shatter me in any way nor make her a horrible person. The same can be said when any SNL comedian portrays a person, they will pick obvious mannerisms, traits, etc. I don't see the big deal at ALL in this. Too many are oversensitive about these things IMO.
About the black man with his money…I can't comment. I Know nothing about that.
I watched the video too. The arm motions he was doing is something he has done in many of his speeches when he has been speaking about different people. The disabled reporter in question doesnt even have that particular mannerism (from the videos I saw). But someone took a freeze frame of a particular moment and put it next to a still picture of the reporter showing his disabled arm, and that is the only thing that the majority of people saw.
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Re: Yes, the people HAVE spoken
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Posted by Meg1234
Posted by BargainMama
Posted by Meg1234
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by Meg1234
As evidenced on these political threads as well, most of the "vocal" ones are the least tolerant and respecting of other's views.
Not being snarky, but please explain to me how I can be tolerant of someone who has racist tendencies (this includes voting for someone who shows the same trait)?
Because what I'm hearing is that I should be tolerant to racist views. I don't see someone being racist as an "opinion."
If you spell out what you believe Trump to be racist on, I will then reply. Because I am not of the belief Trump has racist views (he has views but many of them have simply been twisted to be racist IMO).
I'm pretty sure one of DT's former staffers has stated that Donald Trump said that he doesn't want a black man counting his money. Referring to an AA man working in his accounting department at one of his hotels. Of course all of the Trump supporters will say that person is lying. That's the answer to every disgusting action or statement that comes up. Heck, we all saw him mock that reporter with special needs, and everyone has said he didn't do that.
I just watched the video of DT "mocking" the handicap reporter. I will say, I personally walk with a limp and have had since an injury as a child. I also have a handicap parking pass for the medical problem I have. I honestly don't view what he did as horrible and mocking. That's just my opinion. I had a friend once imitate me when I was in my 20s, and to be me, she walked with a limp. Instead of getting offended and calling the person a horrible person, I realized that is the way I walk and so if someone were trying to act like me, they might do that and I get that. It didn't shatter me in any way nor make her a horrible person. The same can be said when any SNL comedian portrays a person, they will pick obvious mannerisms, traits, etc. I don't see the big deal at ALL in this. Too many are oversensitive about these things IMO.
About the black man with his money…I can't comment. I Know nothing about that.
I watched the video too. The arm motions he was doing is something he has done in many of his speeches when he has been speaking about different people. The disabled reporter in question doesnt even have that particular mannerism (from the videos I saw). But someone took a freeze frame of a particular moment and put it next to a still picture of the reporter showing his disabled arm, and that is the only thing that the majority of people saw.
Oh c'mon, you know why people make those arm motions. You must have watched the "youtube" video his supporters have been defending it with.
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Re: Yes, the people HAVE spoken
Posted by Meg1234
Posted by BargainMama
Posted by Meg1234
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by Meg1234
As evidenced on these political threads as well, most of the "vocal" ones are the least tolerant and respecting of other's views.
Not being snarky, but please explain to me how I can be tolerant of someone who has racist tendencies (this includes voting for someone who shows the same trait)?
Because what I'm hearing is that I should be tolerant to racist views. I don't see someone being racist as an "opinion."
If you spell out what you believe Trump to be racist on, I will then reply. Because I am not of the belief Trump has racist views (he has views but many of them have simply been twisted to be racist IMO).
I'm pretty sure one of DT's former staffers has stated that Donald Trump said that he doesn't want a black man counting his money. Referring to an AA man working in his accounting department at one of his hotels. Of course all of the Trump supporters will say that person is lying. That's the answer to every disgusting action or statement that comes up. Heck, we all saw him mock that reporter with special needs, and everyone has said he didn't do that.
I just watched the video of DT "mocking" the handicap reporter. I will say, I personally walk with a limp and have had since an injury as a child. I also have a handicap parking pass for the medical problem I have. I honestly don't view what he did as horrible and mocking. That's just my opinion. I had a friend once imitate me when I was in my 20s, and to be me, she walked with a limp. Instead of getting offended and calling the person a horrible person, I realized that is the way I walk and so if someone were trying to act like me, they might do that and I get that. It didn't shatter me in any way nor make her a horrible person. The same can be said when any SNL comedian portrays a person, they will pick obvious mannerisms, traits, etc. I don't see the big deal at ALL in this. Too many are oversensitive about these things IMO.
About the black man with his money…I can't comment. I Know nothing about that.
A silly anecdote about someone who is not our president.
How about when he stood at a rally, asked the non Christian conservatives to raise their hands and then jokingly asked the others if they should let them stay? The minute he implies that Christians have the right to tell me where I can and cannot be bc I'm not Christian is terrifying and infuriating from our future president. Those actions are exactly why we're seeing stories of anyone different being taunted right now by those who think Trump made it okay through his example.
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You needed to hide because you believe in hateful stereotyping, elitism, racism, sexism, anti Semitism and white supremacy.
There was just unfortunately more of you than sane and rational people.
So now it's out in the open and it's ok to say it. But you have nothing to be proud of. This is a sad shameful day for our country. I am afraid for our future. And I'm not going to shut up just because there are more of you than us.
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Re: Yes, the people HAVE spoken
Posted by ChilisWife
I watched the video too. The arm motions he was doing is something he has done in many of his speeches when he has been speaking about different people. The disabled reporter in question doesnt even have that particular mannerism (from the videos I saw). But someone took a freeze frame of a particular moment and put it next to a still picture of the reporter showing his disabled arm, and that is the only thing that the majority of people saw.
I thought the same thing. He was just flailing around to show someone who was backpedaling and confused. And yes, I saw the entire video. As someone with my own "handicap", I don't need anyone to tell me what I feel is wrong regarding the video I watched of him. I don't see it as a big deal, I have a right to my opinion. Anyone can get offended about any single thing and people find every reason to get offended these days it seems.
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| Posted 11/10/16 1:25 PM |
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BargainMama
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Re: Yes, the people HAVE spoken
Posted by Meg1234
Posted by ChilisWife
I watched the video too. The arm motions he was doing is something he has done in many of his speeches when he has been speaking about different people. The disabled reporter in question doesnt even have that particular mannerism (from the videos I saw). But someone took a freeze frame of a particular moment and put it next to a still picture of the reporter showing his disabled arm, and that is the only thing that the majority of people saw.
I thought the same thing. He was just flailing around to show someone who was backpedaling and confused. And yes, I saw the entire video. As someone with my own "handicap", I don't need anyone to tell me what I feel is wrong regarding the video I watched of him. I don't see it as a big deal, I have a right to my opinion. Anyone can get offended about any single thing and people find every reason to get offended these days it seems.
Well, I can certainly tell you that his actions have offended MANY. Especially those of us with children that have special needs, and DO hand flap like that.
But again, you are a DT supporter, I fully expect you to excuse his actions.
Message edited 11/10/2016 1:27:10 PM.
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| Posted 11/10/16 1:26 PM |
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ChilisWife
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Re: Yes, the people HAVE spoken
Wait, he also hates Jews now too?
He is very vocally pro-Israel. His daughter and son in law are Jewish. Did I miss his anti-semitic comments?
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| Posted 11/10/16 1:30 PM |
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Meg1234
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Re: Yes, the people HAVE spoken
Posted by BargainMama
Posted by Meg1234
Posted by ChilisWife
I watched the video too. The arm motions he was doing is something he has done in many of his speeches when he has been speaking about different people. The disabled reporter in question doesnt even have that particular mannerism (from the videos I saw). But someone took a freeze frame of a particular moment and put it next to a still picture of the reporter showing his disabled arm, and that is the only thing that the majority of people saw.
I thought the same thing. He was just flailing around to show someone who was backpedaling and confused. And yes, I saw the entire video. As someone with my own "handicap", I don't need anyone to tell me what I feel is wrong regarding the video I watched of him. I don't see it as a big deal, I have a right to my opinion. Anyone can get offended about any single thing and people find every reason to get offended these days it seems.
Well, I can certainly tell you that his actions have offended MANY. Especially those of us with children that have special needs, and DO hand flap like that.
But again, you are a DT supporter, I fully expect you to excuse his actions.
Yes and I don't look to find fault with every single thing he has said and done. I don't break apart every single thing he has said and done, because I agree with a lot of his overall ideas. Those who don't agree will do so as they have done. That's the beauty of America, we all have a right to our opinions.
And as I started this thread saying...the people in the majority have spoken.
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| Posted 11/10/16 1:33 PM |
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Serendipity
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Yes, the people HAVE spoken
Ok listen this is all so of of control. There was an election, he won. He won the electoral vote, fair and square.
Alone- the back and forth, the FB banter, LIF threads are out of control. And now- RIOTS and media reports that California wants to go on its own. Come on America! This is out of control. He won fair and square. That's democracy. We all have the right to vote and there is a winner.
Not for anything I did NOT want Obama as president, nor did many republicans. Did you see riots??? Did Texas say they want to break away from the US??? Go back and search LIF, were the liberals attacked the way the conservatives are being attacked now.
GET OVER IT. He won! Let's move on for the better of our country!
And For what's it worth- HRC was no mother Theresa.
Message edited 11/10/2016 1:38:06 PM.
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| Posted 11/10/16 1:35 PM |
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Chai77
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Re: Yes, the people HAVE spoken
Posted by ChilisWife
Wait, he also hates Jews now too?
He is very vocally pro-Israel. His daughter and son in law are Jewish. Did I miss his anti-semitic comments?
Yes - Read this
Message edited 11/10/2016 1:38:23 PM.
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| Posted 11/10/16 1:37 PM |
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