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Re: The elephant in the room re: Biden

Posted by Diane

Can I ask a question? How come Biden supporters dont post anything good about him, like what he has done or what he will do, it is just anti-Trump stuff.

Just asking.....



Trump is chaos.

I'm confident that Biden will lead with calmness while at the same time addressing us as one nation instead of two parties at odds. Trump has spent 4 years dividing us, Biden will work towards bringing us back together.

Biden LISTENS. He isn't a know it all who thinks only he has all the answers. He defers to those who know more, he values science, experts and facts. He doesn't intentionally spread misinformation and propaganda in order to push his own agenda and serve his own needs.

He will lead with positivity and hope, not fear and hate.

He will conduct himself with grace when dealing with other world leaders instead of embarrassing us by acting like a classless toddler. He will repair the damaged relationships with our allies.

He will work to protect our environment.

He will have our country rejoin the WHO, the Paris Accord and everything else Trump pulled us from.

He will (and is) appointing cabinet members with intelligence, experience and knowledge instead of surrounding himself with donor friends, inept family members and "yes men" likeTrump did.

Biden understands how our government works and respects the Constitution.

I could go on and on as to why Biden will be a better, more effective president. Trump is a cancer, a destructive, lawless, narcissistic cancer and the best thing this country did was to vote him out. I cannot wait for Biden to take over, I feel more confident today than I've felt in the last 4 years.

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Posted 12/31/20 6:12 PM
 

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Re: The elephant in the room re: Biden

Posted by Diane

Can I ask a question? How come Biden supporters dont post anything good about him, like what he has done or what he will do, it is just anti-Trump stuff.

Just asking.....



We do. We post about his budget plan, which is in detail on his website. People responded, "Oh, OK, that sounds intelligent and Presidential"... We posted about his Cabinet selections... people responded "Sounds like he picked intelligent choices that will do a good job..." and then we go on to other topics.

With trump, we post about his illegal and treasonous activity and his anti-American tirades, and his supporters keep going on trying to support the unsupportable, and we keep showing facts as to why he is incompetent.

Biden, as a President for -20 days so far, has done more for America than trump has in 4 years. Other than the stock market, which he doesn't directly control, I have yet to hear a single positive thing that trump supporters can say about him.
Unemployment was on a steady decline for years, so that's not because of him. The stock market was on a steady rise for years, so that's not because of him.

Posted 12/31/20 8:58 PM
 

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Re: The elephant in the room re: Biden

“ We posted about his Cabinet selections... people responded "Sounds like he picked intelligent choices that will do a good job..."

Not so as you were on the other thread about “his” school pick.

Posted 12/31/20 9:15 PM
 

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Re: The elephant in the room re: Biden

Posted by valentinesbaby48

“ We posted about his Cabinet selections... people responded "Sounds like he picked intelligent choices that will do a good job..."

Not so as you were on the other thread about “his” school pick.



Actually, it is so. You're focusing on ONE pick out of many. On the WHOLE, Biden has been praised for his Cabinet picks. He's choosing many capable people.

Posted 12/31/20 9:54 PM
 

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Re: The elephant in the room re: Biden

Posted by valentinesbaby48

“ We posted about his Cabinet selections... people responded "Sounds like he picked intelligent choices that will do a good job..."

Not so as you were on the other thread about “his” school pick.



Yes, on that thread, I said
"Miguel has been a teacher, a Principal (earned Principal of the Year for Connecticut in 2012), a District Administrator, and is currently the Commissioner of Education in Connecticut.

Wow, what a crazy idea.... picking people who are actually knowledgeable about their position...."

and Hofstra said "I'm eagerly looking forward to having intelligent, capable, qualified grown ups in the WH again over the inept sh!t show we currently have."
Karen said "I'm happy with the choice."
JennP said "I like him too."

So that thread is EXACTLY like what I said.

Posted 12/31/20 10:03 PM
 

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Re: The elephant in the room re: Biden

Posted by GoldenRod

Posted by valentinesbaby48

“ We posted about his Cabinet selections... people responded "Sounds like he picked intelligent choices that will do a good job..."

Not so as you were on the other thread about “his” school pick.



Yes, on that thread, I said
"Miguel has been a teacher, a Principal (earned Principal of the Year for Connecticut in 2012), a District Administrator, and is currently the Commissioner of Education in Connecticut.

Wow, what a crazy idea.... picking people who are actually knowledgeable about their position...."

and Hofstra said "I'm eagerly looking forward to having intelligent, capable, qualified grown ups in the WH again over the inept sh!t show we currently have."
Karen said "I'm happy with the choice."
JennP said "I like him too."

So that thread is EXACTLY like what I said.



And others had problems with him. Wasn’t speaking of the ones who posted over here from the first thread.

Posted 12/31/20 10:12 PM
 

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Re: The elephant in the room re: Biden

Posted by GoldenRod

Posted by Diane

Can I ask a question? How come Biden supporters dont post anything good about him, like what he has done or what he will do, it is just anti-Trump stuff.

Just asking.....



We do. We post about his budget plan, which is in detail on his website. People responded, "Oh, OK, that sounds intelligent and Presidential"... We posted about his Cabinet selections... people responded "Sounds like he picked intelligent choices that will do a good job..." and then we go on to other topics.

With trump, we post about his illegal and treasonous activity and his anti-American tirades, and his supporters keep going on trying to support the unsupportable, and we keep showing facts as to why he is incompetent.

Biden, as a President for -20 days so far, has done more for America than trump has in 4 years. Other than the stock market, which he doesn't directly control, I have yet to hear a single positive thing that trump supporters can say about him.
Unemployment was on a steady decline for years, so that's not because of him. The stock market was on a steady rise for years, so that's not because of him.



Biden will be a continuation of the Obama administration. His cabinet members carry lots of baggage. More career politicians. We do not need that anymore. Biden can't seem to string 2 coherent sentences together. That will be embarrassing and Putin runs rings around him. Biden and Harris have not been aqsked one tough question since they started campaining. They will never get asked the tough question by the media. They choose who they want to ask questions. Why do you think no one wanted Biden twice in his previous attempts to run??

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Posted 12/31/20 11:41 PM
 

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Re: The elephant in the room re: Biden

Posted by TyReseGreen

This thread is 4 months old but I’m going in, and asking the OP...what is your opinion today? Election is over and Trump is MIA as far as his temporary duty (19days left) as President besides his asinine tweets. I’m going to address the call of “you being a racist”. We all watched the first debate and Trump wouldn’t denounce racism or the Proud Boys when called to do so. If you support a person who supports bigotry and racism what does that make you? While you decide whether to respond let me give you a bit of history on Donald J. Trump. His casinos could not have African Americans working the floors of the casinos. He and his father would not rent apartments in the buildings they owned if you were a person of color. This country has always had racist people living amongst us, but Donald J. Trump pushed them to the forefront by not condoning over the course of 4 years as President. Point Blank Period.



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Posted 12/31/20 11:44 PM
 

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Re: The elephant in the room re: Biden

Posted by clotheshorse

Posted by GoldenRod

Posted by Diane

Can I ask a question? How come Biden supporters dont post anything good about him, like what he has done or what he will do, it is just anti-Trump stuff.

Just asking.....



We do. We post about his budget plan, which is in detail on his website. People responded, "Oh, OK, that sounds intelligent and Presidential"... We posted about his Cabinet selections... people responded "Sounds like he picked intelligent choices that will do a good job..." and then we go on to other topics.

With trump, we post about his illegal and treasonous activity and his anti-American tirades, and his supporters keep going on trying to support the unsupportable, and we keep showing facts as to why he is incompetent.

Biden, as a President for -20 days so far, has done more for America than trump has in 4 years. Other than the stock market, which he doesn't directly control, I have yet to hear a single positive thing that trump supporters can say about him.
Unemployment was on a steady decline for years, so that's not because of him. The stock market was on a steady rise for years, so that's not because of him.



Biden will be a continuation of the Obama administration. His cabinet members carry lots of baggage. More career politicians. We do not need that anymore. Biden can't seem to string 2 coherent sentences together. That will be embarrassing and Putin runs rings around him. Biden and Harris have not been aqsked one tough question since they started campaigning. They will never get asked the tough question by the media. They choose who they want to ask questions. Why do you think no one wanted Biden twice in his previous attempts to run??



Biden Team Disables Chat On Virtual Press Conferences After Reporters Ask Tough Questions
Democrat Joe Biden’s White House transition team has reportedly disabled the chat function on their Zoom virtual press conferences after invited journalists began complaining about the group’s lack of transparency.
As The Daily Wire reported last week, reporters were becoming “frustrated” with the Biden team — and Joe Biden himself — because the team appeared to have a slate of favored journalists who were always called up on to ask questions during the team’s virtual press conferences.
The “New York Times, CNN, Washington Post, PBS and Politico” were given the opportunity to ask questions of the team at nearly every press conference, while even mainstream media outlets like The Associated Press were shut out.
“Hey guys, there tons of folks looking to ask questions and since this is being done once a week, could we PLEASE go longer or at least hold more frequent briefings,” a reporter from The Daily Beast said in the chat of a Zoom press conference held last week.
“Any chance you can take a few more questions? There are a lot of folks here with questions,” Zeke Miller from The Associated Press added.
“Is there a point in saying we want to ask questions if you only call on the same small group every week?” another asked.
The system had a direct impact: Biden’s team rarely had to answer an unexpected question, particularly about touchy subjects, like an ongoing Department of Justice investigation into his son Hunter’s finances and foreign dealings. Biden has yet to answer questions on Hunter’s issues in any substantive way, and even then when questioned by late-night television hosts, not network reporters.
His team has a typical statement response to the question: “President-elect Biden is deeply proud of his son, who has fought through difficult challenges, including the vicious personal attacks of recent months, only to emerge stronger.”
After reporters complained in public about the situation, though, the Biden team didn’t take more questions, they simply shut down the chat, according to at least one reporter who was on the most recent virtual press conference Zoom.
“The Biden transition team appears to have disabled the public chat function on its transition zoom calls, a place where I and others had been routinely complaining to them to take more questions,” incoming Politico editor Sam Stein said on Twitter, per Fox News.
Biden’s team did not comment on the situation according to Fox, but the team did say, last month, that they value “transparency” and believe the press’s job is to hold Biden “accountable” during his tenure.
“He also believes, though, that it’s the media’s job to hold him accountable,” a spokesperson said. “He’s there to do the people’s work and he welcomes that relationship. He welcomes their role, the media’s role in our democracy and I think it will be, frankly, the polar opposite of what we’ve seen over the last four years…I think you’ll see a huge change in the culture in the way this White House treats the media.”

Posted 12/31/20 11:52 PM
 

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Re: The elephant in the room re: Biden

Posted by TyReseGreen

His casinos could not have African Americans working the floors of the casinos. He and his father would not rent apartments in the buildings they owned if you were a person of color.



Interesting, I’ve never heard/read anything about this. Do u mind sharing sources? I gotta say...I’ve only heard Trump being a racist during his presidency, primarily a narrative by the Democrats. But looking back, I never heard this before, I mean even his actions (his life before presidency) have showed him as a non-racist person. Often surrounded by minorities either in a professional level or just while having a good time. To me, hearing him say he’s not a racist has less value than his actions throughout his life.

Posted 1/1/21 12:21 AM
 

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Re: The elephant in the room re: Biden

Posted by valentinesbaby48

Posted by clotheshorse

Posted by GoldenRod

Posted by Diane

Can I ask a question? How come Biden supporters dont post anything good about him, like what he has done or what he will do, it is just anti-Trump stuff.

Just asking.....



We do. We post about his budget plan, which is in detail on his website. People responded, "Oh, OK, that sounds intelligent and Presidential"... We posted about his Cabinet selections... people responded "Sounds like he picked intelligent choices that will do a good job..." and then we go on to other topics.

With trump, we post about his illegal and treasonous activity and his anti-American tirades, and his supporters keep going on trying to support the unsupportable, and we keep showing facts as to why he is incompetent.

Biden, as a President for -20 days so far, has done more for America than trump has in 4 years. Other than the stock market, which he doesn't directly control, I have yet to hear a single positive thing that trump supporters can say about him.
Unemployment was on a steady decline for years, so that's not because of him. The stock market was on a steady rise for years, so that's not because of him.



Biden will be a continuation of the Obama administration. His cabinet members carry lots of baggage. More career politicians. We do not need that anymore. Biden can't seem to string 2 coherent sentences together. That will be embarrassing and Putin runs rings around him. Biden and Harris have not been aqsked one tough question since they started campaigning. They will never get asked the tough question by the media. They choose who they want to ask questions. Why do you think no one wanted Biden twice in his previous attempts to run??



Biden Team Disables Chat On Virtual Press Conferences After Reporters Ask Tough Questions
Democrat Joe Biden’s White House transition team has reportedly disabled the chat function on their Zoom virtual press conferences after invited journalists began complaining about the group’s lack of transparency.
As The Daily Wire reported last week, reporters were becoming “frustrated” with the Biden team — and Joe Biden himself — because the team appeared to have a slate of favored journalists who were always called up on to ask questions during the team’s virtual press conferences.
The “New York Times, CNN, Washington Post, PBS and Politico” were given the opportunity to ask questions of the team at nearly every press conference, while even mainstream media outlets like The Associated Press were shut out.
“Hey guys, there tons of folks looking to ask questions and since this is being done once a week, could we PLEASE go longer or at least hold more frequent briefings,” a reporter from The Daily Beast said in the chat of a Zoom press conference held last week.
“Any chance you can take a few more questions? There are a lot of folks here with questions,” Zeke Miller from The Associated Press added.
“Is there a point in saying we want to ask questions if you only call on the same small group every week?” another asked.
The system had a direct impact: Biden’s team rarely had to answer an unexpected question, particularly about touchy subjects, like an ongoing Department of Justice investigation into his son Hunter’s finances and foreign dealings. Biden has yet to answer questions on Hunter’s issues in any substantive way, and even then when questioned by late-night television hosts, not network reporters.
His team has a typical statement response to the question: “President-elect Biden is deeply proud of his son, who has fought through difficult challenges, including the vicious personal attacks of recent months, only to emerge stronger.”
After reporters complained in public about the situation, though, the Biden team didn’t take more questions, they simply shut down the chat, according to at least one reporter who was on the most recent virtual press conference Zoom.
“The Biden transition team appears to have disabled the public chat function on its transition zoom calls, a place where I and others had been routinely complaining to them to take more questions,” incoming Politico editor Sam Stein said on Twitter, per Fox News.
Biden’s team did not comment on the situation according to Fox, but the team did say, last month, that they value “transparency” and believe the press’s job is to hold Biden “accountable” during his tenure.
“He also believes, though, that it’s the media’s job to hold him accountable,” a spokesperson said. “He’s there to do the people’s work and he welcomes that relationship. He welcomes their role, the media’s role in our democracy and I think it will be, frankly, the polar opposite of what we’ve seen over the last four years…I think you’ll see a huge change in the culture in the way this White House treats the media.”




I'm legitimately trying to find sources for this, other than right-wing conspiracy sites and echo chambers. I went to AP's site, and they never mention this. I even went through Zeke Miller's twitter feed, and he never mentioned this.

Posted 1/1/21 1:03 AM
 

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Re: The elephant in the room re: Biden

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by TyReseGreen

His casinos could not have African Americans working the floors of the casinos. He and his father would not rent apartments in the buildings they owned if you were a person of color.



Interesting, I’ve never heard/read anything about this. Do u mind sharing sources? I gotta say...I’ve only heard Trump being a racist during his presidency, primarily a narrative by the Democrats. But looking back, I never heard this before, I mean even his actions (his life before presidency) have showed him as a non-racist person. Often surrounded by minorities either in a professional level or just while having a good time. To me, hearing him say he’s not a racist has less value than his actions throughout his life.



https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history

Posted 1/1/21 1:06 AM
 

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Re: The elephant in the room re: Biden

Posted by GoldenRod

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by TyReseGreen

His casinos could not have African Americans working the floors of the casinos. He and his father would not rent apartments in the buildings they owned if you were a person of color.



Interesting, I’ve never heard/read anything about this. Do u mind sharing sources? I gotta say...I’ve only heard Trump being a racist during his presidency, primarily a narrative by the Democrats. But looking back, I never heard this before, I mean even his actions (his life before presidency) have showed him as a non-racist person. Often surrounded by minorities either in a professional level or just while having a good time. To me, hearing him say he’s not a racist has less value than his actions throughout his life.



https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history



Vox is a left publication and had to fire one of their “reporters”

In June 2016, Vox suspended contributor Emmett Rensin for a series of tweets calling for anti-Trump riots, including one on June 3, 2016, that urged, "If Trump comes to your town, start a riot." The tweets drew attention after violent anti-Trump protests took place in San Jose, California on the day of Rensin's tweet.

Posted 1/1/21 1:14 AM
 

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Re: The elephant in the room re: Biden

Posted by valentinesbaby48

Posted by GoldenRod

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by TyReseGreen

His casinos could not have African Americans working the floors of the casinos. He and his father would not rent apartments in the buildings they owned if you were a person of color.



Interesting, I’ve never heard/read anything about this. Do u mind sharing sources? I gotta say...I’ve only heard Trump being a racist during his presidency, primarily a narrative by the Democrats. But looking back, I never heard this before, I mean even his actions (his life before presidency) have showed him as a non-racist person. Often surrounded by minorities either in a professional level or just while having a good time. To me, hearing him say he’s not a racist has less value than his actions throughout his life.



https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history



Vox is a left publication and had to fire one of their “reporters”

In June 2016, Vox suspended contributor Emmett Rensin for a series of tweets calling for anti-Trump riots, including one on June 3, 2016, that urged, "If Trump comes to your town, start a riot." The tweets drew attention after violent anti-Trump protests took place in San Jose, California on the day of Rensin's tweet.



If you bothered to read it, you would see all of the sources and quotes from numerous sources of the data.

Posted 1/1/21 1:30 AM
 

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Re: The elephant in the room re: Biden

Posted by GoldenRod

Posted by valentinesbaby48

Posted by GoldenRod

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by TyReseGreen

His casinos could not have African Americans working the floors of the casinos. He and his father would not rent apartments in the buildings they owned if you were a person of color.



Interesting, I’ve never heard/read anything about this. Do u mind sharing sources? I gotta say...I’ve only heard Trump being a racist during his presidency, primarily a narrative by the Democrats. But looking back, I never heard this before, I mean even his actions (his life before presidency) have showed him as a non-racist person. Often surrounded by minorities either in a professional level or just while having a good time. To me, hearing him say he’s not a racist has less value than his actions throughout his life.



https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history



Vox is a left publication and had to fire one of their “reporters”

In June 2016, Vox suspended contributor Emmett Rensin for a series of tweets calling for anti-Trump riots, including one on June 3, 2016, that urged, "If Trump comes to your town, start a riot." The tweets drew attention after violent anti-Trump protests took place in San Jose, California on the day of Rensin's tweet.



If you bothered to read it, you would see all of the sources and quotes from numerous sources of the data.



Oh I read it.

Posted 1/1/21 1:46 AM
 

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Re: The elephant in the room re: Biden

Posted by GoldenRod

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by TyReseGreen

His casinos could not have African Americans working the floors of the casinos. He and his father would not rent apartments in the buildings they owned if you were a person of color.



Interesting, I’ve never heard/read anything about this. Do u mind sharing sources? I gotta say...I’ve only heard Trump being a racist during his presidency, primarily a narrative by the Democrats. But looking back, I never heard this before, I mean even his actions (his life before presidency) have showed him as a non-racist person. Often surrounded by minorities either in a professional level or just while having a good time. To me, hearing him say he’s not a racist has less value than his actions throughout his life.



https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history



Wait, GoldenRod didn’t u call out Valentinesbaby for using right-wing sites? Vox is pretty leftist. I did read the whole article including its links that mainly brought me to other Vox articles. My thoughts...Trump def needs a filter before saying things. He needs more tact when speaking to others and he needs to become more aware of what comes out of his mouth but I do think they’re dissecting every single thing, and twisting it to fit their narrative. For example when they’re saying that supposedly Trump called Mexican immigrants criminals and rapists. He obviously didn’t mean to say that all Mexican immigrants are criminals and rapists, that’s just silly. A lot of illegal immigrants (Mexicans included) come to this country with the truest instentions to better themselves in honest, decent ways. But have no doubt that unfortunately there’s also a lot of scumbugs that take advantage of these people’s dispare and steal their money and whatever belongings they have, rape them, and do other barbaric things to them. The stories I’ve heard from some of these poor people have literally brought me to tears. Another example is when Trump called Wareen Pocahontas (how is that even clearly connected to The Trail Of Tears btw?), he didn’t mean it as racist offense against Native American tribes, he was making fun of Warren’s claims of being Native American. Two different things. 100% I do not agree with the way he addresses people but to say he’s actually racist when his actions prove otherwise is pushing it. Racial insensitivity is not the same as racism. Does Vox, TNYT, or any other site/publication that tends to be leftist have ever talked about the remarks and actions of Biden regarding race? Do u mind sharing those links too?

Posted 1/1/21 6:24 PM
 

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Re: The elephant in the room re: Biden

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by GoldenRod

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by TyReseGreen

His casinos could not have African Americans working the floors of the casinos. He and his father would not rent apartments in the buildings they owned if you were a person of color.



Interesting, I’ve never heard/read anything about this. Do u mind sharing sources? I gotta say...I’ve only heard Trump being a racist during his presidency, primarily a narrative by the Democrats. But looking back, I never heard this before, I mean even his actions (his life before presidency) have showed him as a non-racist person. Often surrounded by minorities either in a professional level or just while having a good time. To me, hearing him say he’s not a racist has less value than his actions throughout his life.



https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history



Wait, GoldenRod didn’t u call out Valentinesbaby for using right-wing sites? Vox is pretty leftist. I did read the whole article including its links that mainly brought me to other Vox articles. My thoughts...Trump def needs a filter before saying things. He needs more tact when speaking to others and he needs to become more aware of what comes out of his mouth but I do think they’re dissecting every single thing, and twisting it to fit their narrative. For example when they’re saying that supposedly Trump called Mexican immigrants criminals and rapists. He obviously didn’t mean to say that all Mexican immigrants are criminals and rapists, that’s just silly. A lot of illegal immigrants (Mexicans included) come to this country with the truest instentions to better themselves in honest, decent ways. But have no doubt that unfortunately there’s also a lot of scumbugs that take advantage of these people’s dispare and steal their money and whatever belongings they have, rape them, and do other barbaric things to them. The stories I’ve heard from some of these poor people have literally brought me to tears. Another example is when Trump called Wareen Pocahontas (how is that even clearly connected to The Trail Of Tears btw?), he didn’t mean it as racist offense against Native American tribes, he was making fun of Warren’s claims of being Native American. Two different things. 100% I do not agree with the way he addresses people but to say he’s actually racist when his actions prove otherwise is pushing it. Racial insensitivity is not the same as racism. Does Vox, TNYT, or any other site/publication that tends to be leftist have ever talked about the remarks and actions of Biden regarding race? Do u mind sharing those links too?



Trump is a classless, vile pig of a man who lacks any dignity and grace. You're splitting hairs here over whether it's "racism" or "racial insensitivity". Trump has said inappropriate and horrible things about many groups of people and ethnic groups. He has no respect and no filter. Many of his remarks are racist, sexist, homophobic, cruel, insensitive, nasty and mean. He is NOT a kind man, even worse when he's not shown loyalty.

There is a proper way that one should speak particularly when you are leading a nation. Words matter. Words have impact........especially from the presidents mouth. I am tired of people excusing the disgusting, vile things that he says because the things he says are NOT ok. Even worse is when people try to convince others that "he didn't really mean what he said". Give me a break. If it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck then guess what?? It's a duck.

Trump is disgusting and we should demand better from those that represent us a nation.

Posted 1/1/21 7:33 PM
 

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Re: The elephant in the room re: Biden

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by GoldenRod

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by TyReseGreen

His casinos could not have African Americans working the floors of the casinos. He and his father would not rent apartments in the buildings they owned if you were a person of color.



Interesting, I’ve never heard/read anything about this. Do u mind sharing sources? I gotta say...I’ve only heard Trump being a racist during his presidency, primarily a narrative by the Democrats. But looking back, I never heard this before, I mean even his actions (his life before presidency) have showed him as a non-racist person. Often surrounded by minorities either in a professional level or just while having a good time. To me, hearing him say he’s not a racist has less value than his actions throughout his life.



https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history



Wait, GoldenRod didn’t u call out Valentinesbaby for using right-wing sites? Vox is pretty leftist. I did read the whole article including its links that mainly brought me to other Vox articles. My thoughts...Trump def needs a filter before saying things. He needs more tact when speaking to others and he needs to become more aware of what comes out of his mouth but I do think they’re dissecting every single thing, and twisting it to fit their narrative. For example when they’re saying that supposedly Trump called Mexican immigrants criminals and rapists. He obviously didn’t mean to say that all Mexican immigrants are criminals and rapists, that’s just silly. A lot of illegal immigrants (Mexicans included) come to this country with the truest instentions to better themselves in honest, decent ways. But have no doubt that unfortunately there’s also a lot of scumbugs that take advantage of these people’s dispare and steal their money and whatever belongings they have, rape them, and do other barbaric things to them. The stories I’ve heard from some of these poor people have literally brought me to tears. Another example is when Trump called Wareen Pocahontas (how is that even clearly connected to The Trail Of Tears btw?), he didn’t mean it as racist offense against Native American tribes, he was making fun of Warren’s claims of being Native American. Two different things. 100% I do not agree with the way he addresses people but to say he’s actually racist when his actions prove otherwise is pushing it. Racial insensitivity is not the same as racism. Does Vox, TNYT, or any other site/publication that tends to be leftist have ever talked about the remarks and actions of Biden regarding race? Do u mind sharing those links too?



Trump is a classless, vile pig of a man who lacks any dignity and grace. You're splitting hairs here over whether it's "racism" or "racial insensitivity". Trump has said inappropriate and horrible things about many groups of people and ethnic groups. He has no respect and no filter. Many of his remarks are racist, sexist, homophobic, cruel, insensitive, nasty and mean. He is NOT a kind man, even worse when he's not shown loyalty.

There is a proper way that one should speak particularly when you are leading a nation. Words matter. Words have impact........especially from the presidents mouth. I am tired of people excusing the disgusting, vile things that he says because the things he says are NOT ok. Even worse is when people try to convince others that "he didn't really mean what he said". Give me a break. If it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck then guess what?? It's a duck.

Trump is disgusting and we should demand better from those that represent us a nation.



Then by that logic Biden should be a racist too? I am not making excuses or even interested in convincing others about anything, people can think whatever they want. But I’m not gonna agree with something just because someone wants me to and is twisting things to give validation to their claim. I’ve said it many times I do not agree with the way he acts sometimes, or the things he say to people. I agree with u...words matter, words have impact. It starts from the top and it continues with us, with they way we carry ourselves and the way we speak to people whether in person or online.

Posted 1/1/21 7:52 PM
 

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Re: The elephant in the room re: Biden

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by GoldenRod

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by TyReseGreen

His casinos could not have African Americans working the floors of the casinos. He and his father would not rent apartments in the buildings they owned if you were a person of color.



Interesting, I’ve never heard/read anything about this. Do u mind sharing sources? I gotta say...I’ve only heard Trump being a racist during his presidency, primarily a narrative by the Democrats. But looking back, I never heard this before, I mean even his actions (his life before presidency) have showed him as a non-racist person. Often surrounded by minorities either in a professional level or just while having a good time. To me, hearing him say he’s not a racist has less value than his actions throughout his life.



https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history



Wait, GoldenRod didn’t u call out Valentinesbaby for using right-wing sites? Vox is pretty leftist. I did read the whole article including its links that mainly brought me to other Vox articles. My thoughts...Trump def needs a filter before saying things. He needs more tact when speaking to others and he needs to become more aware of what comes out of his mouth but I do think they’re dissecting every single thing, and twisting it to fit their narrative. For example when they’re saying that supposedly Trump called Mexican immigrants criminals and rapists. He obviously didn’t mean to say that all Mexican immigrants are criminals and rapists, that’s just silly. A lot of illegal immigrants (Mexicans included) come to this country with the truest instentions to better themselves in honest, decent ways. But have no doubt that unfortunately there’s also a lot of scumbugs that take advantage of these people’s dispare and steal their money and whatever belongings they have, rape them, and do other barbaric things to them. The stories I’ve heard from some of these poor people have literally brought me to tears. Another example is when Trump called Wareen Pocahontas (how is that even clearly connected to The Trail Of Tears btw?), he didn’t mean it as racist offense against Native American tribes, he was making fun of Warren’s claims of being Native American. Two different things. 100% I do not agree with the way he addresses people but to say he’s actually racist when his actions prove otherwise is pushing it. Racial insensitivity is not the same as racism. Does Vox, TNYT, or any other site/publication that tends to be leftist have ever talked about the remarks and actions of Biden regarding race? Do u mind sharing those links too?



Trump is a classless, vile pig of a man who lacks any dignity and grace. You're splitting hairs here over whether it's "racism" or "racial insensitivity". Trump has said inappropriate and horrible things about many groups of people and ethnic groups. He has no respect and no filter. Many of his remarks are racist, sexist, homophobic, cruel, insensitive, nasty and mean. He is NOT a kind man, even worse when he's not shown loyalty.

There is a proper way that one should speak particularly when you are leading a nation. Words matter. Words have impact........especially from the presidents mouth. I am tired of people excusing the disgusting, vile things that he says because the things he says are NOT ok. Even worse is when people try to convince others that "he didn't really mean what he said". Give me a break. If it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck then guess what?? It's a duck.

Trump is disgusting and we should demand better from those that represent us a nation.



Then by that logic Biden should be a racist too? I am not making excuses or even interested in convincing others about anything, people can think whatever they want. But I’m not gonna agree with something just because someone wants me to and is twisting things to give validation to their claim. I’ve said it many times I do not agree with the way he acts sometimes, or the things he say to people. I agree with u...words matter, words have impact. It starts from the top and it continues with us, with they way we carry ourselves and the way we speak to people whether in person or online.



This isn't about Biden, the two aren't comparable as Biden does not consistently call out, berate, insult, bully and degrade people daily on Twitter. Everything about Trump's behavior, tweets, comments and attitude is unbecoming of a president. He sets a very poor example for this country and as an American, I cringe thinking about what other countries must think of us if he's the example.

Posted 1/1/21 7:58 PM
 

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Re: The elephant in the room re: Biden

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by GoldenRod

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by TyReseGreen

His casinos could not have African Americans working the floors of the casinos. He and his father would not rent apartments in the buildings they owned if you were a person of color.



Interesting, I’ve never heard/read anything about this. Do u mind sharing sources? I gotta say...I’ve only heard Trump being a racist during his presidency, primarily a narrative by the Democrats. But looking back, I never heard this before, I mean even his actions (his life before presidency) have showed him as a non-racist person. Often surrounded by minorities either in a professional level or just while having a good time. To me, hearing him say he’s not a racist has less value than his actions throughout his life.



https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history



Wait, GoldenRod didn’t u call out Valentinesbaby for using right-wing sites? Vox is pretty leftist. I did read the whole article including its links that mainly brought me to other Vox articles. My thoughts...Trump def needs a filter before saying things. He needs more tact when speaking to others and he needs to become more aware of what comes out of his mouth but I do think they’re dissecting every single thing, and twisting it to fit their narrative. For example when they’re saying that supposedly Trump called Mexican immigrants criminals and rapists. He obviously didn’t mean to say that all Mexican immigrants are criminals and rapists, that’s just silly. A lot of illegal immigrants (Mexicans included) come to this country with the truest instentions to better themselves in honest, decent ways. But have no doubt that unfortunately there’s also a lot of scumbugs that take advantage of these people’s dispare and steal their money and whatever belongings they have, rape them, and do other barbaric things to them. The stories I’ve heard from some of these poor people have literally brought me to tears. Another example is when Trump called Wareen Pocahontas (how is that even clearly connected to The Trail Of Tears btw?), he didn’t mean it as racist offense against Native American tribes, he was making fun of Warren’s claims of being Native American. Two different things. 100% I do not agree with the way he addresses people but to say he’s actually racist when his actions prove otherwise is pushing it. Racial insensitivity is not the same as racism. Does Vox, TNYT, or any other site/publication that tends to be leftist have ever talked about the remarks and actions of Biden regarding race? Do u mind sharing those links too?



Trump is a classless, vile pig of a man who lacks any dignity and grace. You're splitting hairs here over whether it's "racism" or "racial insensitivity". Trump has said inappropriate and horrible things about many groups of people and ethnic groups. He has no respect and no filter. Many of his remarks are racist, sexist, homophobic, cruel, insensitive, nasty and mean. He is NOT a kind man, even worse when he's not shown loyalty.

There is a proper way that one should speak particularly when you are leading a nation. Words matter. Words have impact........especially from the presidents mouth. I am tired of people excusing the disgusting, vile things that he says because the things he says are NOT ok. Even worse is when people try to convince others that "he didn't really mean what he said". Give me a break. If it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck then guess what?? It's a duck.

Trump is disgusting and we should demand better from those that represent us a nation.



Then by that logic Biden should be a racist too? I am not making excuses or even interested in convincing others about anything, people can think whatever they want. But I’m not gonna agree with something just because someone wants me to and is twisting things to give validation to their claim. I’ve said it many times I do not agree with the way he acts sometimes, or the things he say to people. I agree with u...words matter, words have impact. It starts from the top and it continues with us, with they way we carry ourselves and the way we speak to people whether in person or online.



This isn't about Biden, the two aren't comparable as Biden does not consistently call out, berate, insult, bully and degrade people daily on Twitter. Everything about Trump's behavior, tweets, comments and attitude is unbecoming of a president. He sets a very poor example for this country and as an American, I cringe thinking about what other countries must think of us if he's the example.



My initial question wasn’t about berating, insulting, degrading, or any other synonym. It was about the claim that Trump is a racist.

Posted 1/1/21 8:12 PM
 

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Re: The elephant in the room re: Biden

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by TyReseGreen

His casinos could not have African Americans working the floors of the casinos. He and his father would not rent apartments in the buildings they owned if you were a person of color.



Interesting, I’ve never heard/read anything about this. Do u mind sharing sources? I gotta say...I’ve only heard Trump being a racist during his presidency, primarily a narrative by the Democrats. But looking back, I never heard this before, I mean even his actions (his life before presidency) have showed him as a non-racist person. Often surrounded by minorities either in a professional level or just while having a good time. To me, hearing him say he’s not a racist has less value than his actions throughout his life.



LINK


Wiki Link I added the wiki link because it cites to sources.

Message edited 1/1/2021 8:17:50 PM.

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Re: The elephant in the room re: Biden

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by GoldenRod

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by TyReseGreen

His casinos could not have African Americans working the floors of the casinos. He and his father would not rent apartments in the buildings they owned if you were a person of color.



Interesting, I’ve never heard/read anything about this. Do u mind sharing sources? I gotta say...I’ve only heard Trump being a racist during his presidency, primarily a narrative by the Democrats. But looking back, I never heard this before, I mean even his actions (his life before presidency) have showed him as a non-racist person. Often surrounded by minorities either in a professional level or just while having a good time. To me, hearing him say he’s not a racist has less value than his actions throughout his life.



https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history



Wait, GoldenRod didn’t u call out Valentinesbaby for using right-wing sites? Vox is pretty leftist. I did read the whole article including its links that mainly brought me to other Vox articles. My thoughts...Trump def needs a filter before saying things. He needs more tact when speaking to others and he needs to become more aware of what comes out of his mouth but I do think they’re dissecting every single thing, and twisting it to fit their narrative. For example when they’re saying that supposedly Trump called Mexican immigrants criminals and rapists. He obviously didn’t mean to say that all Mexican immigrants are criminals and rapists, that’s just silly. A lot of illegal immigrants (Mexicans included) come to this country with the truest instentions to better themselves in honest, decent ways. But have no doubt that unfortunately there’s also a lot of scumbugs that take advantage of these people’s dispare and steal their money and whatever belongings they have, rape them, and do other barbaric things to them. The stories I’ve heard from some of these poor people have literally brought me to tears. Another example is when Trump called Wareen Pocahontas (how is that even clearly connected to The Trail Of Tears btw?), he didn’t mean it as racist offense against Native American tribes, he was making fun of Warren’s claims of being Native American. Two different things. 100% I do not agree with the way he addresses people but to say he’s actually racist when his actions prove otherwise is pushing it. Racial insensitivity is not the same as racism. Does Vox, TNYT, or any other site/publication that tends to be leftist have ever talked about the remarks and actions of Biden regarding race? Do u mind sharing those links too?



Trump is a classless, vile pig of a man who lacks any dignity and grace. You're splitting hairs here over whether it's "racism" or "racial insensitivity". Trump has said inappropriate and horrible things about many groups of people and ethnic groups. He has no respect and no filter. Many of his remarks are racist, sexist, homophobic, cruel, insensitive, nasty and mean. He is NOT a kind man, even worse when he's not shown loyalty.

There is a proper way that one should speak particularly when you are leading a nation. Words matter. Words have impact........especially from the presidents mouth. I am tired of people excusing the disgusting, vile things that he says because the things he says are NOT ok. Even worse is when people try to convince others that "he didn't really mean what he said". Give me a break. If it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck then guess what?? It's a duck.

Trump is disgusting and we should demand better from those that represent us a nation.



Then by that logic Biden should be a racist too? I am not making excuses or even interested in convincing others about anything, people can think whatever they want. But I’m not gonna agree with something just because someone wants me to and is twisting things to give validation to their claim. I’ve said it many times I do not agree with the way he acts sometimes, or the things he say to people. I agree with u...words matter, words have impact. It starts from the top and it continues with us, with they way we carry ourselves and the way we speak to people whether in person or online.



This isn't about Biden, the two aren't comparable as Biden does not consistently call out, berate, insult, bully and degrade people daily on Twitter. Everything about Trump's behavior, tweets, comments and attitude is unbecoming of a president. He sets a very poor example for this country and as an American, I cringe thinking about what other countries must think of us if he's the example.



My initial question wasn’t about berating, insulting, degrading, or any other synonym. It was about the claim that Trump is a racist.



He is absolutely racist. When one makes racial comments and shows racial insensitivity then guess what? They are a racist.

Posted 1/1/21 8:16 PM
 

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Re: The elephant in the room re: Biden

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by GoldenRod

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by TyReseGreen

His casinos could not have African Americans working the floors of the casinos. He and his father would not rent apartments in the buildings they owned if you were a person of color.



Interesting, I’ve never heard/read anything about this. Do u mind sharing sources? I gotta say...I’ve only heard Trump being a racist during his presidency, primarily a narrative by the Democrats. But looking back, I never heard this before, I mean even his actions (his life before presidency) have showed him as a non-racist person. Often surrounded by minorities either in a professional level or just while having a good time. To me, hearing him say he’s not a racist has less value than his actions throughout his life.



https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history



Wait, GoldenRod didn’t u call out Valentinesbaby for using right-wing sites? Vox is pretty leftist. I did read the whole article including its links that mainly brought me to other Vox articles. My thoughts...Trump def needs a filter before saying things. He needs more tact when speaking to others and he needs to become more aware of what comes out of his mouth but I do think they’re dissecting every single thing, and twisting it to fit their narrative. For example when they’re saying that supposedly Trump called Mexican immigrants criminals and rapists. He obviously didn’t mean to say that all Mexican immigrants are criminals and rapists, that’s just silly. A lot of illegal immigrants (Mexicans included) come to this country with the truest instentions to better themselves in honest, decent ways. But have no doubt that unfortunately there’s also a lot of scumbugs that take advantage of these people’s dispare and steal their money and whatever belongings they have, rape them, and do other barbaric things to them. The stories I’ve heard from some of these poor people have literally brought me to tears. Another example is when Trump called Wareen Pocahontas (how is that even clearly connected to The Trail Of Tears btw?), he didn’t mean it as racist offense against Native American tribes, he was making fun of Warren’s claims of being Native American. Two different things. 100% I do not agree with the way he addresses people but to say he’s actually racist when his actions prove otherwise is pushing it. Racial insensitivity is not the same as racism. Does Vox, TNYT, or any other site/publication that tends to be leftist have ever talked about the remarks and actions of Biden regarding race? Do u mind sharing those links too?



The Vox article was mainly to show a list of trump's own words and actions. As was posted later, there are plenty of the same lists. Listing his own racist words and actions isn't left-leaning.

Here's NPR's article on Biden's race relations over the years.
https://www.npr.org/2020/10/14/920385802/biden-vows-to-ease-racial-divisions-heres-his-record

Unlike trump supporters, I'll never claim that Biden is perfect. He wasn't my first choice during the Primaries. But he was "safe". He's too far right-wing for most Democrats, but he's a heck of a lot more left than trump is. He's a career politician, but right now, we need someone that was assured of beating trump (and with getting more than 7 million votes, and a *landslide* (using the phrasing from trump when he had the exact same Electoral College numbers 4 years ago) victory in the Electoral College, he did that easily...) and fixing as much of the damage as possible.

In four years, I hope there are a better variety of candidates, and I can vote for someone that can move the country forward. Right now, I just need someone that can fix the damage.

Posted 1/2/21 12:05 AM
 

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Re: The elephant in the room re: Biden

Posted by DancinBarefoot

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by TyReseGreen

His casinos could not have African Americans working the floors of the casinos. He and his father would not rent apartments in the buildings they owned if you were a person of color.



Interesting, I’ve never heard/read anything about this. Do u mind sharing sources? I gotta say...I’ve only heard Trump being a racist during his presidency, primarily a narrative by the Democrats. But looking back, I never heard this before, I mean even his actions (his life before presidency) have showed him as a non-racist person. Often surrounded by minorities either in a professional level or just while having a good time. To me, hearing him say he’s not a racist has less value than his actions throughout his life.



LINK


Wiki Link I added the wiki link because it cites to sources.



Thank u for the links. The points mentioned pretty much echo the points that the Vox article indicated in their piece.

Posted 1/2/21 2:37 AM
 

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Re: The elephant in the room re: Biden

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by GoldenRod

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by TyReseGreen

His casinos could not have African Americans working the floors of the casinos. He and his father would not rent apartments in the buildings they owned if you were a person of color.



Interesting, I’ve never heard/read anything about this. Do u mind sharing sources? I gotta say...I’ve only heard Trump being a racist during his presidency, primarily a narrative by the Democrats. But looking back, I never heard this before, I mean even his actions (his life before presidency) have showed him as a non-racist person. Often surrounded by minorities either in a professional level or just while having a good time. To me, hearing him say he’s not a racist has less value than his actions throughout his life.



https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history



Wait, GoldenRod didn’t u call out Valentinesbaby for using right-wing sites? Vox is pretty leftist. I did read the whole article including its links that mainly brought me to other Vox articles. My thoughts...Trump def needs a filter before saying things. He needs more tact when speaking to others and he needs to become more aware of what comes out of his mouth but I do think they’re dissecting every single thing, and twisting it to fit their narrative. For example when they’re saying that supposedly Trump called Mexican immigrants criminals and rapists. He obviously didn’t mean to say that all Mexican immigrants are criminals and rapists, that’s just silly. A lot of illegal immigrants (Mexicans included) come to this country with the truest instentions to better themselves in honest, decent ways. But have no doubt that unfortunately there’s also a lot of scumbugs that take advantage of these people’s dispare and steal their money and whatever belongings they have, rape them, and do other barbaric things to them. The stories I’ve heard from some of these poor people have literally brought me to tears. Another example is when Trump called Wareen Pocahontas (how is that even clearly connected to The Trail Of Tears btw?), he didn’t mean it as racist offense against Native American tribes, he was making fun of Warren’s claims of being Native American. Two different things. 100% I do not agree with the way he addresses people but to say he’s actually racist when his actions prove otherwise is pushing it. Racial insensitivity is not the same as racism. Does Vox, TNYT, or any other site/publication that tends to be leftist have ever talked about the remarks and actions of Biden regarding race? Do u mind sharing those links too?



Trump is a classless, vile pig of a man who lacks any dignity and grace. You're splitting hairs here over whether it's "racism" or "racial insensitivity". Trump has said inappropriate and horrible things about many groups of people and ethnic groups. He has no respect and no filter. Many of his remarks are racist, sexist, homophobic, cruel, insensitive, nasty and mean. He is NOT a kind man, even worse when he's not shown loyalty.

There is a proper way that one should speak particularly when you are leading a nation. Words matter. Words have impact........especially from the presidents mouth. I am tired of people excusing the disgusting, vile things that he says because the things he says are NOT ok. Even worse is when people try to convince others that "he didn't really mean what he said". Give me a break. If it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck then guess what?? It's a duck.

Trump is disgusting and we should demand better from those that represent us a nation.



Then by that logic Biden should be a racist too? I am not making excuses or even interested in convincing others about anything, people can think whatever they want. But I’m not gonna agree with something just because someone wants me to and is twisting things to give validation to their claim. I’ve said it many times I do not agree with the way he acts sometimes, or the things he say to people. I agree with u...words matter, words have impact. It starts from the top and it continues with us, with they way we carry ourselves and the way we speak to people whether in person or online.



This isn't about Biden, the two aren't comparable as Biden does not consistently call out, berate, insult, bully and degrade people daily on Twitter. Everything about Trump's behavior, tweets, comments and attitude is unbecoming of a president. He sets a very poor example for this country and as an American, I cringe thinking about what other countries must think of us if he's the example.



My initial question wasn’t about berating, insulting, degrading, or any other synonym. It was about the claim that Trump is a racist.



He is absolutely racist. When one makes racial comments and shows racial insensitivity then guess what? They are a racist.



Racial insensitivity and racism are not the same thing. The key difference for me is intent. Racial insensitivity implies a person that is tone deaf to the implications of what that person says which can def translate into rude insults but without necessarily meaning any harm, or coming from a place of hatred. However racism is motivated primarily by hate and fear, and is usually fully conscious. Actions done or things said by someone have the full intent to degrade a person because of their race. That to me is a major difference between the 2 terms. Anyone can at some point say a racial insensitive comment without meaning anything negative, the goal should be to educate ourselves and become more aware of the impact of our words and what we say can mean to someone else. It’s a work in progress by all of us doesn’t matter what race we are.

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