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ItsTime2011
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Sperm donor has 70 kids and counting...

What do we think about this?

Sperm donor has 70 kids and counting

My thoughts:

It's a complicated situation. He needed money for law school and he found a way. He was assured it would be confidential and anonymous. Of course he outed himself by going on the registry and claiming his donor number. I know the registry was started by a woman who was trying to give the child information that he was asking for concerning his birth but this was something she should have been prepared for when she decided to go the sperm donor route, and should have realized the need to be confidential. I feel bad for the fiance, and am surprised that she has stayed this long, and do not blame her one bit for being upset.

Just my 2 cents on the matter. Any thought?

Posted 9/15/11 10:28 AM
 
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Re: Sperm donor has 70 kids and counting...

My concern is for when the kids grow up, and possibly meet each other and hook up. They'll really be 1/2 brother/sisters.Chat Icon

Posted 9/15/11 10:31 AM
 

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Re: Sperm donor has 70 kids and counting...

Shouldnt there be some sort of cut off on how many people can use the same donor...

Posted 9/15/11 10:32 AM
 

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Re: Sperm donor has 70 kids and counting...

Posted by neener1211

My concern is for when the kids grow up, and possibly meet each other and hook up. They'll really be 1/2 brother/sisters.Chat Icon



oh yeah...ewwww! Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

That could lead to some embarrassment and heart ache! Chat Icon Chat Icon

Posted 9/15/11 10:34 AM
 

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Re: Sperm donor has 70 kids and counting...

There is another one in California who has 150 kids. IMHO these doctors really have a responsibility that they are shirking by permitting so many live births with one donor. There needs to be a registry of successful births tied to donors and once a number, I am not sure how many, 20? 30? are born, then that person can no longer donate and no longer can have their DNA used to make additional IVF children.

Posted 9/15/11 10:37 AM
 

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I don't think it is the doctor's responsibility, if someone wants to use a sperm donor to police how many children his sperm has produced. Each client should be aware about this possibility and when they take the route, sometimes even unwittingly. If anything, the donor should educate himself about the possibility of this happening, and the responsibility lies squarely on the man and the woman, as with bringing any child into this world.

Posted 9/15/11 10:46 AM
 

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Posted by buttercup

I don't think it is the doctor's responsibility, if someone wants to use a sperm donor to police how many children his sperm has produced. Each client should be aware about this possibility and when they take the route, sometimes even unwittingly. If anything, the donor should educate himself about the possibility of this happening, and the responsibility lies squarely on the man and the woman, as with bringing any child into this world.




I agree.

And no truer words were spoken than this:
“I don’t want to sound cold and calculating,’’ Leckas told Seisler after hearing the news, “but you can’t be at 70 birthday parties a year. There’s only so much Chuck E. Cheese you can take.’’

Posted 9/15/11 10:51 AM
 

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Re: Sperm donor has 70 kids and counting...

Posted by neener1211

My concern is for when the kids grow up, and possibly meet each other and hook up. They'll really be 1/2 brother/sisters.Chat Icon



What are the realistic chances of that happening?

These kids are probably spread out across a country with a population of nearly 315 million.

Posted 9/15/11 10:55 AM
 

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Posted by ItsTime2011

What do we think about this?

Sperm donor has 70 kids and counting

My thoughts:

It's a complicated situation. He needed money for law school and he found a way. He was assured it would be confidential and anonymous. Of course he outed himself by going on the registry and claiming his donor number. I know the registry was started by a woman who was trying to give the child information that he was asking for concerning his birth but this was something she should have been prepared for when she decided to go the sperm donor route, and should have realized the need to be confidential. I feel bad for the fiance, and am surprised that she has stayed this long, and do not blame her one bit for being upset.

Just my 2 cents on the matter. Any thought?



The fiance was told about this early into this relationship and stayed anyway, at this point suck it up or leave.

She could always look at this as him giving many people the ultimate gift of life instead of whining about something he did long before she was in his life.



Message edited 9/15/2011 1:05:28 PM.

Posted 9/15/11 10:56 AM
 

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Re: Sperm donor has 70 kids and counting...

I don't see why there needs to be a limit on the amount of people who can become impregnated with one mans sperm it is not like he will be having a role in the childs life & the woman/women know this so what difference does it make?

Posted 9/15/11 11:02 AM
 

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That's crazy!! Chat Icon

I really don't know what my opinion is on it though....

Posted 9/15/11 11:10 AM
 

ItsTime2011
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Re: Sperm donor has 70 kids and counting...

Posted by DiamondGirl

I don't see why there needs to be a limit on the amount of people who can become impregnated with one mans sperm it is not like he will be having a role in the childs life & the woman/women know this so what difference does it make?



I think that was the intention. But the situation changes when you ask to meet. Then he sees the child, and knows the child and the child knows him. There is more of a relationship there. In the article they talk about one such meeting where at the end the child didn't want the man to leave. That's an awkward situation.

Its awkward all around.

Posted 9/15/11 11:11 AM
 

ItsTime2011
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Posted by annoyedTTCer

Posted by ItsTime2011

What do we think about this?

Sperm donor has 70 kids and counting

My thoughts:

It's a complicated situation. He needed money for law school and he found a way. He was assured it would be confidential and anonymous. Of course he outed himself by going on the registry and claiming his donor number. I know the registry was started by a woman who was trying to give the child information that he was asking for concerning his birth but this was something she should have been prepared for when she decided to go the sperm donor route, and should have realized the need to be confidential. I feel bad for the fiance, and am surprised that she has stayed this long, and do not blame her one bit for being upset.

Just my 2 cents on the matter. Any thought?



The finance was told about this early into this relationship and stayed anyway, at this point suck it up or leave.

She could always look at this as him giving many people the ultimate gift of life instead of whining about something he did long before she was in his life.






She was told about the situation but that was (from the feeling that I got in the article) also assured by him that it was an anonymous procedure, and now he has people contacting him to meet. That would change the game a little for me as well.

Posted 9/15/11 11:12 AM
 

DiamondGirl
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Re: Sperm donor has 70 kids and counting...

Posted by ItsTime2011

Posted by DiamondGirl

I don't see why there needs to be a limit on the amount of people who can become impregnated with one mans sperm it is not like he will be having a role in the childs life & the woman/women know this so what difference does it make?



I think that was the intention. But the situation changes when you ask to meet. Then he sees the child, and knows the child and the child knows him. There is more of a relationship there. In the article they talk about one such meeting where at the end the child didn't want the man to leave. That's an awkward situation.

Its awkward all around.



Oh I missed that part...well no I do not think he should be meeting these kids. You cannot maintain a relationship with 70 children!

Posted 9/15/11 11:12 AM
 

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Re: Sperm donor has 70 kids and counting...

Posted by ItsTime2011

Posted by DiamondGirl

I don't see why there needs to be a limit on the amount of people who can become impregnated with one mans sperm it is not like he will be having a role in the childs life & the woman/women know this so what difference does it make?



I think that was the intention. But the situation changes when you ask to meet. Then he sees the child, and knows the child and the child knows him. There is more of a relationship there. In the article they talk about one such meeting where at the end the child didn't want the man to leave. That's an awkward situation.

Its awkward all around.



i agree - he donated anonymously and never with the intent on being a part of these kids lives.
He sort of opened himself up to meeting the kids though when he signed onto the registry out of curiosity. At that point, he became more of a 'real' person to the mothers and kids, and not just a number.

i don't know how i feel about it really - i can understand the mothers and kids wanting to know more about the donor, but on the other hand, i feel like it just opens up the possibility for so many awkward situations down the road once you get to know people personally.
If i were him, i think the only way i could deal with it was to stay anonymous and not get personally connected with anyone.

its an interesting story though - i actually considered donating my eggs when i was in college to raise $$, but the process was too complicated at the time and would've interfered with my job and school work too much so i didn't do it. im sure i never even considered the very real ramifications of what could happen 15 years later!

Posted 9/15/11 11:25 AM
 

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Re: Sperm donor has 70 kids and counting...

Clinics are bound by the dept of health and the CDC for this. It's more an exception than the rule.

Posted 9/15/11 12:59 PM
 

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Re: Sperm donor has 70 kids and counting...

Posted by neener1211

My concern is for when the kids grow up, and possibly meet each other and hook up. They'll really be 1/2 brother/sisters.Chat Icon



This is the same exact thing i thought about as well!

Posted 9/15/11 1:10 PM
 

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Re: Sperm donor has 70 kids and counting...

Posted by DiamondGirl

I don't see why there needs to be a limit on the amount of people who can become impregnated with one mans sperm it is not like he will be having a role in the childs life & the woman/women know this so what difference does it make?



I think its more of an issue of what if the half siblings meet and get married and have a baby of their own (obviously without knowing they are related). Stranger things have happened and while the odds are small, it is possible.

Posted 9/15/11 1:20 PM
 

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Re: Sperm donor has 70 kids and counting...

I heard about this on the radio the other day. I heard that children born from sperm donors are given a number that coincides with the donor. Assuming their parents TELL them that they were conceived from a donor, they would know. If in their adult lives, they make a conscious decision to have a relationship (sexual or otherwise) with a person who may also be a product of a sperm donor, that person would have a number as well. If the numbers are the same, they'd be SOOL. It is not fool-proof, but its something.

Posted 9/15/11 2:54 PM
 

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Re: Sperm donor has 70 kids and counting...

Posted by LSP2005

There is another one in California who has 150 kids. IMHO these doctors really have a responsibility that they are shirking by permitting so many live births with one donor. There needs to be a registry of successful births tied to donors and once a number, I am not sure how many, 20? 30? are born, then that person can no longer donate and no longer can have their DNA used to make additional IVF children.



Can I ask a question - why should a sperm donor be limited at all? Do you see it as a moral issue? What is the difference of 20 or 30 or 70 children? I am asking seriously, not being snarky or causing drama.

To me, if you choose to use a sperm donor, you should be open to the idea this person has donated before or could donate again. You give up that 'control' if you will since it is another person and not your spouse or something. If the male is able to produce healthy children and is giving others the gift of life, I guess I don't see a reason to limit it. Although there are some sperm donors on Maury Povich that I think need limiting!!!!

In this particular situation, I agree that it is weird that he is now meeting the children. They should have left it anoynomous.

Posted 9/15/11 8:52 PM
 

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I'm sorry, but...am I the only person that noticed the "Do not enter" sign behind him in the picture??? Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

Posted 9/15/11 8:59 PM
 

ItsTime2011
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Re: Sperm donor has 70 kids and counting...

Posted by queensgal

Posted by LSP2005

There is another one in California who has 150 kids. IMHO these doctors really have a responsibility that they are shirking by permitting so many live births with one donor. There needs to be a registry of successful births tied to donors and once a number, I am not sure how many, 20? 30? are born, then that person can no longer donate and no longer can have their DNA used to make additional IVF children.



Can I ask a question - why should a sperm donor be limited at all? Do you see it as a moral issue? What is the difference of 20 or 30 or 70 children? I am asking seriously, not being snarky or causing drama.

To me, if you choose to use a sperm donor, you should be open to the idea this person has donated before or could donate again. You give up that 'control' if you will since it is another person and not your spouse or something. If the male is able to produce healthy children and is giving others the gift of life, I guess I don't see a reason to limit it. Although there are some sperm donors on Maury Povich that I think need limiting!!!!

In this particular situation, I agree that it is weird that he is now meeting the children. They should have left it anoynomous.



I think maybe the whole thing is limiting due to the fact that the more children there are out there the more of an opportunity for two people who have the same dad to meet and perhaps fall in love. And that would be bad.

Posted 9/15/11 9:29 PM
 

LSP2005
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Re: Sperm donor has 70 kids and counting...

Posted by queensgal

Posted by LSP2005

There is another one in California who has 150 kids. IMHO these doctors really have a responsibility that they are shirking by permitting so many live births with one donor. There needs to be a registry of successful births tied to donors and once a number, I am not sure how many, 20? 30? are born, then that person can no longer donate and no longer can have their DNA used to make additional IVF children.



Can I ask a question - why should a sperm donor be limited at all? Do you see it as a moral issue? What is the difference of 20 or 30 or 70 children? I am asking seriously, not being snarky or causing drama.

To me, if you choose to use a sperm donor, you should be open to the idea this person has donated before or could donate again. You give up that 'control' if you will since it is another person and not your spouse or something. If the male is able to produce healthy children and is giving others the gift of life, I guess I don't see a reason to limit it. Although there are some sperm donors on Maury Povich that I think need limiting!!!!

In this particular situation, I agree that it is weird that he is now meeting the children. They should have left it anoynomous.



My thinking on this is that for the future gene pool you are really pushing one set of gene through to the next generation - so even if none of his children marry each other, the likelihood that his grandchildren or cousins might marry is higher. If he is donating to one or two local sperm banks then he is available to a more local set of families. Yes, some meet at college and move away from their original community, but others might not. Maybe the sperm donor to these 70 kids is incredible and has "perfect" genes but maybe not. If you look at some religious groups that intermarry and have large families there are some genetic diseases that have come up and they are particularly sad/painful.

I think it is incredibly hard and painful to have to go through IVF. I feel for those familes so much. I really wish they could all have their take home babies instantly. But to me I look at it as a pure genetics issue.

Posted 9/15/11 9:30 PM
 

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Re: Sperm donor has 70 kids and counting...

Posted by Finally1108

Posted by neener1211

My concern is for when the kids grow up, and possibly meet each other and hook up. They'll really be 1/2 brother/sisters.Chat Icon



This is the same exact thing i thought about as well!

This was my thoughts too.. The odds go up!!!!!!

Posted 9/15/11 10:20 PM
 

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Re: Sperm donor has 70 kids and counting...

Posted by annoyedTTCer

Posted by neener1211

My concern is for when the kids grow up, and possibly meet each other and hook up. They'll really be 1/2 brother/sisters.Chat Icon



What are the realistic chances of that happening?

These kids are probably spread out across a country with a population of nearly 315 million.




see now i would think of this as being a local occurrence.
man donates sperm to a local sperm bank.
woman sperm shops at local dr's offices or sperm banks (IDK how this method totally works).... but in my head it's all local. I thought of this happening too.
do they really fly sperm in? don't all major cities or what have you, have sperm banks somewhere???

Posted 9/15/11 10:21 PM
 
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