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nel
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Re: Resuming “normal” life

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Posted by Mrs213

I do have the vac but even if I didn't I'd be out. It's enough already...



Funny how so many people can be controlled.
I heard yesterday that Biden might change his mind over people having parties for 4th of July.
WHO are these people that are robots and saying ok even after the vaccine?



The president has zero authority to deem whether people can gather in their homes with family so that is the silliest thing I ever heard from the first time he mentioned it.
Who even listens to that?



Oh I am sure there are many that do. I watched a woman walk down the street today, not a single soul around her, wearing a mask. People believe the virus flies in the air. It is crazy how much people will believe and how they have stopped their lives for over a year.



How is wearing a mask while you walk down the street stopping your life? I live my life but I wear a mask. I walked down the street completely alone today to go to the atm with my mask on. Walked right past multiple big signs reminding people that masks are required. I don't get why it bothers anyone to see people wearing masks.




It makes no sense as who are you protecting?




I've been reading (though not commenting on) this whole thread, and this is what I truly don't understand (and don't mean this as a personal attack either) -- how does this post follow your previous one, which said:

"You are absolutely correct and that is my point all along. If you are worried and want to take the extra pro cautions then you should have ever right to without people coming down on you.
Just like people who want to go not wear a mask and social distance and live as much as they can before should not have people coming down on them either.
It’s time to let everyone make their own decisions."

In one post you're saying "If you are worried and want to take the extra pro cautions then you should have ever right to without people coming down on you." In the very next one, you're questioning someone's decision to wear a mask walking down the street, which they aren't even telling anyone else to do. Not even looking for an answer, just genuinely confused by the contradiction.



I am confused why anyone would wear a mask alone while walking down the street or driving in their car. You can do what you want but THIS makes NO sense.




And you're entitled to your opinion. But to express it in the next breath after saying "people should be able to do what they want and not have people coming down on them"? No. Because whether it's your intention or not, that's what you're doing or at least how it comes across. It's fine if you don't agree with it or understand it -- but the whole point you were making is completely contrary to what you're saying here. It doesn't have to make sense to you. No one's telling you to do it. But if you want people to respect your practices, shouldn't you do the same for theirs?

(Edited because I hit enter too soon)



I totally get what you are saying but would love an explanation of why you would wear a mask walking or driving alone.



Sure. But if the whole point is you do you, then why does it matter? Why ask someone in a way that would make them defensive if the point is no one should do that to each other? We all have different comfort levels with this, and I think your point was that we should do what makes us comfortable. (Maybe I'm wrong.) But if it is, that goes for ALL of us -- not just the people we agree with or understand. If you don't understand, that's fine -- but to ask in a way that contradicts your earlier point -- do what you want and have no one come down on you for it -- then it just doesn't work.

Ok, I'm done now. Have a good night, everyone.



Why can’t she asks questions though? Because it might make someone else feel uncomfortable and defensive? I’d understand if she was asking questions with the intention to make fun or belittle someone but that doesn’t seem to be the case. We should be able to talk about touchy subjects with people that may have different POVs or beliefs from us and stop reading between the lines too much or take it the wrong way. Maybe a person is trying to understand someone else’s logic, or that person is asking questions out of pure curiosity. I personally don’t see nothing wrong with that. I actually thing conversations like this can be productive, positive, and they should happen more often regardless of how hot/taboo a topic can be.



I don't disagree with you about productive conversations and answering each other's questions. I think that's helpful and important, too.

I genuinely did not get that at all from her tone, which was why I said what I did -- particularly later on when she referred to people who wear masks as brainwashed. We don't all ever agree (or have to agree) on anything, but there's a way to be a person (sorry, quote from my favorite tv show).

Posted 4/25/21 9:34 PM
 
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windyweather21
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Re: Resuming “normal” life

Posted by nel

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by nel

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by nel

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by nel

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by MrsT809

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Mrs213

I do have the vac but even if I didn't I'd be out. It's enough already...



Funny how so many people can be controlled.
I heard yesterday that Biden might change his mind over people having parties for 4th of July.
WHO are these people that are robots and saying ok even after the vaccine?



The president has zero authority to deem whether people can gather in their homes with family so that is the silliest thing I ever heard from the first time he mentioned it.
Who even listens to that?



Oh I am sure there are many that do. I watched a woman walk down the street today, not a single soul around her, wearing a mask. People believe the virus flies in the air. It is crazy how much people will believe and how they have stopped their lives for over a year.



How is wearing a mask while you walk down the street stopping your life? I live my life but I wear a mask. I walked down the street completely alone today to go to the atm with my mask on. Walked right past multiple big signs reminding people that masks are required. I don't get why it bothers anyone to see people wearing masks.




It makes no sense as who are you protecting?




I've been reading (though not commenting on) this whole thread, and this is what I truly don't understand (and don't mean this as a personal attack either) -- how does this post follow your previous one, which said:

"You are absolutely correct and that is my point all along. If you are worried and want to take the extra pro cautions then you should have ever right to without people coming down on you.
Just like people who want to go not wear a mask and social distance and live as much as they can before should not have people coming down on them either.
It’s time to let everyone make their own decisions."

In one post you're saying "If you are worried and want to take the extra pro cautions then you should have ever right to without people coming down on you." In the very next one, you're questioning someone's decision to wear a mask walking down the street, which they aren't even telling anyone else to do. Not even looking for an answer, just genuinely confused by the contradiction.



I am confused why anyone would wear a mask alone while walking down the street or driving in their car. You can do what you want but THIS makes NO sense.




And you're entitled to your opinion. But to express it in the next breath after saying "people should be able to do what they want and not have people coming down on them"? No. Because whether it's your intention or not, that's what you're doing or at least how it comes across. It's fine if you don't agree with it or understand it -- but the whole point you were making is completely contrary to what you're saying here. It doesn't have to make sense to you. No one's telling you to do it. But if you want people to respect your practices, shouldn't you do the same for theirs?

(Edited because I hit enter too soon)



I totally get what you are saying but would love an explanation of why you would wear a mask walking or driving alone.



Sure. But if the whole point is you do you, then why does it matter? Why ask someone in a way that would make them defensive if the point is no one should do that to each other? We all have different comfort levels with this, and I think your point was that we should do what makes us comfortable. (Maybe I'm wrong.) But if it is, that goes for ALL of us -- not just the people we agree with or understand. If you don't understand, that's fine -- but to ask in a way that contradicts your earlier point -- do what you want and have no one come down on you for it -- then it just doesn't work.

Ok, I'm done now. Have a good night, everyone.



Why can’t she asks questions though? Because it might make someone else feel uncomfortable and defensive? I’d understand if she was asking questions with the intention to make fun or belittle someone but that doesn’t seem to be the case. We should be able to talk about touchy subjects with people that may have different POVs or beliefs from us and stop reading between the lines too much or take it the wrong way. Maybe a person is trying to understand someone else’s logic, or that person is asking questions out of pure curiosity. I personally don’t see nothing wrong with that. I actually thing conversations like this can be productive, positive, and they should happen more often regardless of how hot/taboo a topic can be.



I don't disagree with you about productive conversations and answering each other's questions. I think that's helpful and important, too.

I genuinely did not get that at all from her tone, which was why I said what I did -- particularly later on when she referred to people who wear masks as brainwashed. We don't all ever agree (or have to agree) on anything, but there's a way to be a person (sorry, quote from my favorite tv show).



Please quote me correctly. I didn’t mean people who wear masks when mandated. It was the question why people would wear them when they are not around other people. Many are brainwashed to think you can get Covid at any time, from anyplace. Heck they are coming out now saying it doesn’t stay on surfaces very long.

Posted 4/25/21 9:47 PM
 

nel
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Member since 5/06

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Re: Resuming “normal” life

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by nel

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by nel

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by nel

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by nel

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by MrsT809

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Mrs213

I do have the vac but even if I didn't I'd be out. It's enough already...



Funny how so many people can be controlled.
I heard yesterday that Biden might change his mind over people having parties for 4th of July.
WHO are these people that are robots and saying ok even after the vaccine?



The president has zero authority to deem whether people can gather in their homes with family so that is the silliest thing I ever heard from the first time he mentioned it.
Who even listens to that?



Oh I am sure there are many that do. I watched a woman walk down the street today, not a single soul around her, wearing a mask. People believe the virus flies in the air. It is crazy how much people will believe and how they have stopped their lives for over a year.



How is wearing a mask while you walk down the street stopping your life? I live my life but I wear a mask. I walked down the street completely alone today to go to the atm with my mask on. Walked right past multiple big signs reminding people that masks are required. I don't get why it bothers anyone to see people wearing masks.




It makes no sense as who are you protecting?




I've been reading (though not commenting on) this whole thread, and this is what I truly don't understand (and don't mean this as a personal attack either) -- how does this post follow your previous one, which said:

"You are absolutely correct and that is my point all along. If you are worried and want to take the extra pro cautions then you should have ever right to without people coming down on you.
Just like people who want to go not wear a mask and social distance and live as much as they can before should not have people coming down on them either.
It’s time to let everyone make their own decisions."

In one post you're saying "If you are worried and want to take the extra pro cautions then you should have ever right to without people coming down on you." In the very next one, you're questioning someone's decision to wear a mask walking down the street, which they aren't even telling anyone else to do. Not even looking for an answer, just genuinely confused by the contradiction.



I am confused why anyone would wear a mask alone while walking down the street or driving in their car. You can do what you want but THIS makes NO sense.




And you're entitled to your opinion. But to express it in the next breath after saying "people should be able to do what they want and not have people coming down on them"? No. Because whether it's your intention or not, that's what you're doing or at least how it comes across. It's fine if you don't agree with it or understand it -- but the whole point you were making is completely contrary to what you're saying here. It doesn't have to make sense to you. No one's telling you to do it. But if you want people to respect your practices, shouldn't you do the same for theirs?

(Edited because I hit enter too soon)



I totally get what you are saying but would love an explanation of why you would wear a mask walking or driving alone.



Sure. But if the whole point is you do you, then why does it matter? Why ask someone in a way that would make them defensive if the point is no one should do that to each other? We all have different comfort levels with this, and I think your point was that we should do what makes us comfortable. (Maybe I'm wrong.) But if it is, that goes for ALL of us -- not just the people we agree with or understand. If you don't understand, that's fine -- but to ask in a way that contradicts your earlier point -- do what you want and have no one come down on you for it -- then it just doesn't work.

Ok, I'm done now. Have a good night, everyone.



Why can’t she asks questions though? Because it might make someone else feel uncomfortable and defensive? I’d understand if she was asking questions with the intention to make fun or belittle someone but that doesn’t seem to be the case. We should be able to talk about touchy subjects with people that may have different POVs or beliefs from us and stop reading between the lines too much or take it the wrong way. Maybe a person is trying to understand someone else’s logic, or that person is asking questions out of pure curiosity. I personally don’t see nothing wrong with that. I actually thing conversations like this can be productive, positive, and they should happen more often regardless of how hot/taboo a topic can be.



I don't disagree with you about productive conversations and answering each other's questions. I think that's helpful and important, too.

I genuinely did not get that at all from her tone, which was why I said what I did -- particularly later on when she referred to people who wear masks as brainwashed. We don't all ever agree (or have to agree) on anything, but there's a way to be a person (sorry, quote from my favorite tv show).



Please quote me correctly. I didn’t mean people who wear masks when mandated. It was the question why people would wear them when they are not around other people. Many are brainwashed to think you can get Covid at any time, from anyplace. Heck they are coming out now saying it doesn’t stay on surfaces very long.



Fair enough. You didn't say that about ALL people who wear masks. But guess what -- YOU decided that people who wear them for reasons that you just simply don't understand? PROBABLY AREN'T EITHER. The whole idea of calling anyone brainwashed simply because their behavior confuses you is appalling to me. There's your clarification for MY feelings.

Posted 4/25/21 9:50 PM
 

windyweather21
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Member since 3/21

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Re: Resuming “normal” life

Posted by nel

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by nel

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by nel

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by nel

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by nel

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by MrsT809

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Mrs213

I do have the vac but even if I didn't I'd be out. It's enough already...



Funny how so many people can be controlled.
I heard yesterday that Biden might change his mind over people having parties for 4th of July.
WHO are these people that are robots and saying ok even after the vaccine?



The president has zero authority to deem whether people can gather in their homes with family so that is the silliest thing I ever heard from the first time he mentioned it.
Who even listens to that?



Oh I am sure there are many that do. I watched a woman walk down the street today, not a single soul around her, wearing a mask. People believe the virus flies in the air. It is crazy how much people will believe and how they have stopped their lives for over a year.



How is wearing a mask while you walk down the street stopping your life? I live my life but I wear a mask. I walked down the street completely alone today to go to the atm with my mask on. Walked right past multiple big signs reminding people that masks are required. I don't get why it bothers anyone to see people wearing masks.




It makes no sense as who are you protecting?




I've been reading (though not commenting on) this whole thread, and this is what I truly don't understand (and don't mean this as a personal attack either) -- how does this post follow your previous one, which said:

"You are absolutely correct and that is my point all along. If you are worried and want to take the extra pro cautions then you should have ever right to without people coming down on you.
Just like people who want to go not wear a mask and social distance and live as much as they can before should not have people coming down on them either.
It’s time to let everyone make their own decisions."

In one post you're saying "If you are worried and want to take the extra pro cautions then you should have ever right to without people coming down on you." In the very next one, you're questioning someone's decision to wear a mask walking down the street, which they aren't even telling anyone else to do. Not even looking for an answer, just genuinely confused by the contradiction.



I am confused why anyone would wear a mask alone while walking down the street or driving in their car. You can do what you want but THIS makes NO sense.




And you're entitled to your opinion. But to express it in the next breath after saying "people should be able to do what they want and not have people coming down on them"? No. Because whether it's your intention or not, that's what you're doing or at least how it comes across. It's fine if you don't agree with it or understand it -- but the whole point you were making is completely contrary to what you're saying here. It doesn't have to make sense to you. No one's telling you to do it. But if you want people to respect your practices, shouldn't you do the same for theirs?

(Edited because I hit enter too soon)



I totally get what you are saying but would love an explanation of why you would wear a mask walking or driving alone.



Sure. But if the whole point is you do you, then why does it matter? Why ask someone in a way that would make them defensive if the point is no one should do that to each other? We all have different comfort levels with this, and I think your point was that we should do what makes us comfortable. (Maybe I'm wrong.) But if it is, that goes for ALL of us -- not just the people we agree with or understand. If you don't understand, that's fine -- but to ask in a way that contradicts your earlier point -- do what you want and have no one come down on you for it -- then it just doesn't work.

Ok, I'm done now. Have a good night, everyone.



Why can’t she asks questions though? Because it might make someone else feel uncomfortable and defensive? I’d understand if she was asking questions with the intention to make fun or belittle someone but that doesn’t seem to be the case. We should be able to talk about touchy subjects with people that may have different POVs or beliefs from us and stop reading between the lines too much or take it the wrong way. Maybe a person is trying to understand someone else’s logic, or that person is asking questions out of pure curiosity. I personally don’t see nothing wrong with that. I actually thing conversations like this can be productive, positive, and they should happen more often regardless of how hot/taboo a topic can be.



I don't disagree with you about productive conversations and answering each other's questions. I think that's helpful and important, too.

I genuinely did not get that at all from her tone, which was why I said what I did -- particularly later on when she referred to people who wear masks as brainwashed. We don't all ever agree (or have to agree) on anything, but there's a way to be a person (sorry, quote from my favorite tv show).



Please quote me correctly. I didn’t mean people who wear masks when mandated. It was the question why people would wear them when they are not around other people. Many are brainwashed to think you can get Covid at any time, from anyplace. Heck they are coming out now saying it doesn’t stay on surfaces very long.



Fair enough. You didn't say that about ALL people who wear masks. But guess what -- YOU decided that people who wear them for reasons that you just simply don't understand? PROBABLY AREN'T EITHER. The whole idea of calling anyone brainwashed simply because their behavior confuses you is appalling to me. There's your clarification for MY feelings.



True not all may be brainwashed, you are correct. I think it is a legitimate question though why anyone would find the need to walk down an empty street with it on and maybe people have their reasons. My only reason is when it is so cold and it keeps me warm lol.

Posted 4/25/21 9:54 PM
 

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Resuming “normal” life

There are soooo many people who look healthy who either:

-Have cancer or are recovered from cancer
-Have a comprised immune system
-are on meds for Xyz that lowers their immune system
-completely forget they have the mask on

I think the person walking alone in the park falls in one of those categories.




Posted 4/25/21 10:02 PM
 

windyweather21
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Re: Resuming “normal” life

Posted by BFNY516

There are soooo many people who look healthy who either:

-Have cancer or are recovered from cancer
-Have a comprised immune system
-are on meds for Xyz that lowers their immune system
-completely forget they have the mask on

I think the person walking alone in the park falls in one of those categories.







Totally get having an issue but Covid is not floating in the air in an empty park or street.

Posted 4/25/21 10:23 PM
 

JennP
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Re: Resuming “normal” life

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by nel

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by nel

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by nel

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by MrsT809

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Mrs213

I do have the vac but even if I didn't I'd be out. It's enough already...



Funny how so many people can be controlled.
I heard yesterday that Biden might change his mind over people having parties for 4th of July.
WHO are these people that are robots and saying ok even after the vaccine?



The president has zero authority to deem whether people can gather in their homes with family so that is the silliest thing I ever heard from the first time he mentioned it.
Who even listens to that?



Oh I am sure there are many that do. I watched a woman walk down the street today, not a single soul around her, wearing a mask. People believe the virus flies in the air. It is crazy how much people will believe and how they have stopped their lives for over a year.



How is wearing a mask while you walk down the street stopping your life? I live my life but I wear a mask. I walked down the street completely alone today to go to the atm with my mask on. Walked right past multiple big signs reminding people that masks are required. I don't get why it bothers anyone to see people wearing masks.




It makes no sense as who are you protecting?




I've been reading (though not commenting on) this whole thread, and this is what I truly don't understand (and don't mean this as a personal attack either) -- how does this post follow your previous one, which said:

"You are absolutely correct and that is my point all along. If you are worried and want to take the extra pro cautions then you should have ever right to without people coming down on you.
Just like people who want to go not wear a mask and social distance and live as much as they can before should not have people coming down on them either.
It’s time to let everyone make their own decisions."

In one post you're saying "If you are worried and want to take the extra pro cautions then you should have ever right to without people coming down on you." In the very next one, you're questioning someone's decision to wear a mask walking down the street, which they aren't even telling anyone else to do. Not even looking for an answer, just genuinely confused by the contradiction.



I am confused why anyone would wear a mask alone while walking down the street or driving in their car. You can do what you want but THIS makes NO sense.




And you're entitled to your opinion. But to express it in the next breath after saying "people should be able to do what they want and not have people coming down on them"? No. Because whether it's your intention or not, that's what you're doing or at least how it comes across. It's fine if you don't agree with it or understand it -- but the whole point you were making is completely contrary to what you're saying here. It doesn't have to make sense to you. No one's telling you to do it. But if you want people to respect your practices, shouldn't you do the same for theirs?

(Edited because I hit enter too soon)



I totally get what you are saying but would love an explanation of why you would wear a mask walking or driving alone.



Sure. But if the whole point is you do you, then why does it matter? Why ask someone in a way that would make them defensive if the point is no one should do that to each other? We all have different comfort levels with this, and I think your point was that we should do what makes us comfortable. (Maybe I'm wrong.) But if it is, that goes for ALL of us -- not just the people we agree with or understand. If you don't understand, that's fine -- but to ask in a way that contradicts your earlier point -- do what you want and have no one come down on you for it -- then it just doesn't work.

Ok, I'm done now. Have a good night, everyone.



Why can’t she asks questions though? Because it might make someone else feel uncomfortable and defensive? I’d understand if she was asking questions with the intention to make fun or belittle someone but that doesn’t seem to be the case. We should be able to talk about touchy subjects with people that may have different POVs or beliefs from us and stop reading between the lines too much or take it the wrong way. Maybe a person is trying to understand someone else’s logic, or that person is asking questions out of pure curiosity. I personally don’t see nothing wrong with that. I actually thing conversations like this can be productive, positive, and they should happen more often regardless of how hot/taboo a topic can be.



Of course she can ask questions.

She did ask questions.

And people gave multiple answers that covered several facets of the situation. IIRC, they were polite answers.

And she continued to repeat the question, with condescension to boot.

There is good faith debate and then there is repetitive, toddler like, unproductive behavior. Almost everyone sees that this was the latter on VB's part.

Why why why why why why

Even people who normally don't chime into controversy were beseeching her to stop.

Enough already. Honestly, if I ran this site I would pull the thread. I know there have been some chuckles and some good faith attempts to change the subject but on the whole it makes this site look like a social media cesspool.

Posted 4/25/21 11:40 PM
 

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Re: Resuming “normal” life

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by nel

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by nel

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by nel

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by nel

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by nel

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by MrsT809

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Mrs213

I do have the vac but even if I didn't I'd be out. It's enough already...



Funny how so many people can be controlled.
I heard yesterday that Biden might change his mind over people having parties for 4th of July.
WHO are these people that are robots and saying ok even after the vaccine?



The president has zero authority to deem whether people can gather in their homes with family so that is the silliest thing I ever heard from the first time he mentioned it.
Who even listens to that?



Oh I am sure there are many that do. I watched a woman walk down the street today, not a single soul around her, wearing a mask. People believe the virus flies in the air. It is crazy how much people will believe and how they have stopped their lives for over a year.



How is wearing a mask while you walk down the street stopping your life? I live my life but I wear a mask. I walked down the street completely alone today to go to the atm with my mask on. Walked right past multiple big signs reminding people that masks are required. I don't get why it bothers anyone to see people wearing masks.




It makes no sense as who are you protecting?




I've been reading (though not commenting on) this whole thread, and this is what I truly don't understand (and don't mean this as a personal attack either) -- how does this post follow your previous one, which said:

"You are absolutely correct and that is my point all along. If you are worried and want to take the extra pro cautions then you should have ever right to without people coming down on you.
Just like people who want to go not wear a mask and social distance and live as much as they can before should not have people coming down on them either.
It’s time to let everyone make their own decisions."

In one post you're saying "If you are worried and want to take the extra pro cautions then you should have ever right to without people coming down on you." In the very next one, you're questioning someone's decision to wear a mask walking down the street, which they aren't even telling anyone else to do. Not even looking for an answer, just genuinely confused by the contradiction.



I am confused why anyone would wear a mask alone while walking down the street or driving in their car. You can do what you want but THIS makes NO sense.




And you're entitled to your opinion. But to express it in the next breath after saying "people should be able to do what they want and not have people coming down on them"? No. Because whether it's your intention or not, that's what you're doing or at least how it comes across. It's fine if you don't agree with it or understand it -- but the whole point you were making is completely contrary to what you're saying here. It doesn't have to make sense to you. No one's telling you to do it. But if you want people to respect your practices, shouldn't you do the same for theirs?

(Edited because I hit enter too soon)



I totally get what you are saying but would love an explanation of why you would wear a mask walking or driving alone.



Sure. But if the whole point is you do you, then why does it matter? Why ask someone in a way that would make them defensive if the point is no one should do that to each other? We all have different comfort levels with this, and I think your point was that we should do what makes us comfortable. (Maybe I'm wrong.) But if it is, that goes for ALL of us -- not just the people we agree with or understand. If you don't understand, that's fine -- but to ask in a way that contradicts your earlier point -- do what you want and have no one come down on you for it -- then it just doesn't work.

Ok, I'm done now. Have a good night, everyone.



Why can’t she asks questions though? Because it might make someone else feel uncomfortable and defensive? I’d understand if she was asking questions with the intention to make fun or belittle someone but that doesn’t seem to be the case. We should be able to talk about touchy subjects with people that may have different POVs or beliefs from us and stop reading between the lines too much or take it the wrong way. Maybe a person is trying to understand someone else’s logic, or that person is asking questions out of pure curiosity. I personally don’t see nothing wrong with that. I actually thing conversations like this can be productive, positive, and they should happen more often regardless of how hot/taboo a topic can be.



I don't disagree with you about productive conversations and answering each other's questions. I think that's helpful and important, too.

I genuinely did not get that at all from her tone, which was why I said what I did -- particularly later on when she referred to people who wear masks as brainwashed. We don't all ever agree (or have to agree) on anything, but there's a way to be a person (sorry, quote from my favorite tv show).



Please quote me correctly. I didn’t mean people who wear masks when mandated. It was the question why people would wear them when they are not around other people. Many are brainwashed to think you can get Covid at any time, from anyplace. Heck they are coming out now saying it doesn’t stay on surfaces very long.



Fair enough. You didn't say that about ALL people who wear masks. But guess what -- YOU decided that people who wear them for reasons that you just simply don't understand? PROBABLY AREN'T EITHER. The whole idea of calling anyone brainwashed simply because their behavior confuses you is appalling to me. There's your clarification for MY feelings.



True not all may be brainwashed, you are correct. I think it is a legitimate question though why anyone would find the need to walk down an empty street with it on and maybe people have their reasons. My only reason is when it is so cold and it keeps me warm lol.



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I need to know why.
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I need to know why.
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I need to know why.
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I need to know why.
(gets answer for the 456th time)

But, but, but I need to know why.
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Let it freaking go. Do you actually give a single $hit why anyone wears their mask and when and where and how????? Is this question really plaguing your existence day in and day out??? Good grief.

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Posted 4/25/21 11:45 PM
 

windyweather21
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Re: Resuming “normal” life

No one is required to keep answering someone on social media. Move along and the thread will die out.
Easy peasy. Chat Icon

Posted 4/26/21 12:19 PM
 

Hofstra26
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Re: Resuming “normal” life

Posted by windyweather21

No one is required to keep answering someone on social media. Move along and the thread will die out.
Easy peasy. Chat Icon



You are socially inept on every single level. Seriously.

Posted 4/26/21 12:38 PM
 

LuckyStar
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Re: Resuming “normal” life

Posted by JennP


Enough already. Honestly, if I ran this site I would pull the thread. I know there have been some chuckles and some good faith attempts to change the subject but on the whole it makes this site look like a social media cesspool.



I think we are well past that point, my friend Chat Icon

Posted 4/26/21 1:05 PM
 

hmm
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Re: Resuming “normal” life

my life is the same as pre-covid, minus eating out. I'm dont have family to see ( just my parents), so that eliminates those get together. The past couple of years I started to really stop going out...many reasons.

I worked from home pre-covid and still look at the same 4 walls alone daily. Glad not to go into the office mainly because I put on wt and get it off.


I spent over a week in the hospital, came out last week. HAD To wear my mask while in the hospital, everyone had to and I didst have COVID

I still wear a mask when outside my home. Even when at the stables, no one but me wears a mask

I do it for myself, my parents and as other posters said. for those around me. I see people wearing their mask while driving. They are doing the correct thing, if you put on a mask with clean hands it should remain on, because taking it and putting it down contaminants it.

Posted 4/26/21 1:08 PM
 

JennP
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Re: Resuming “normal” life

Posted by LuckyStar

Posted by JennP


Enough already. Honestly, if I ran this site I would pull the thread. I know there have been some chuckles and some good faith attempts to change the subject but on the whole it makes this site look like a social media cesspool.



I think we are well past that point, my friend Chat Icon



Yeah probably Chat Icon

Posted 4/26/21 1:53 AM
 

Sash
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Re: Resuming “normal” life

Posted by LuckyStar

Posted by JennP


Enough already. Honestly, if I ran this site I would pull the thread. I know there have been some chuckles and some good faith attempts to change the subject but on the whole it makes this site look like a social media cesspool.



I think we are well past that point, my friend Chat Icon



Seriously, pretty late to the party. It’s been a cesspool for months and both sides equally contribute to the garbage. It’s not only VB.

Posted 4/26/21 1:16 PM
 

soontobemommyof2
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Re: Resuming “normal” life

Posted by Sash

Posted by LuckyStar

Posted by JennP


Enough already. Honestly, if I ran this site I would pull the thread. I know there have been some chuckles and some good faith attempts to change the subject but on the whole it makes this site look like a social media cesspool.



I think we are well past that point, my friend Chat Icon



Seriously, pretty late to the party. It’s been a cesspool for months and both sides equally contribute to the garbage. It’s not only VB.



Exactly what I was gonna say. All the non stop bullying, and constant name calling going on for quite a while have def contributed to that social media cesspool look.

Posted 4/26/21 1:38 PM
 

Hofstra26
Love to Bake!

Member since 7/06

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Re: Resuming “normal” life

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by Sash

Posted by LuckyStar

Posted by JennP


Enough already. Honestly, if I ran this site I would pull the thread. I know there have been some chuckles and some good faith attempts to change the subject but on the whole it makes this site look like a social media cesspool.



I think we are well past that point, my friend Chat Icon



Seriously, pretty late to the party. It’s been a cesspool for months and both sides equally contribute to the garbage. It’s not only VB.



Exactly what I was gonna say. All the non stop bullying, and constant name calling going on for quite a while have def contributed to that social media cesspool look.



Every time VB gets banned, this site gets exponentially better. Every time. She's 100% of the problem and most everyone on this site is sick of her antics. The less she posts, the more productive the conversation.

Posted 4/26/21 1:43 PM
 

soontobemommyof2
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Member since 4/15

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Re: Resuming “normal” life

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by Sash

Posted by LuckyStar

Posted by JennP


Enough already. Honestly, if I ran this site I would pull the thread. I know there have been some chuckles and some good faith attempts to change the subject but on the whole it makes this site look like a social media cesspool.



I think we are well past that point, my friend Chat Icon



Seriously, pretty late to the party. It’s been a cesspool for months and both sides equally contribute to the garbage. It’s not only VB.



Exactly what I was gonna say. All the non stop bullying, and constant name calling going on for quite a while have def contributed to that social media cesspool look.



Every time VB gets banned, this site gets exponentially better. Every time. She's 100% of the problem and most everyone on this site is sick of her antics. The less she posts, the more productive the conversation.



Sorry but the way some people treat others, especially her is truly disgusting and vile, period. There’s no excuse or justification for responding in that manner and yes people that behave that way are part of the problem whether some want to admit it or not. When are we gonna start assuming responsibility for our actions? Nobody has power enough to make me be a bully. If u think u’re not then don’t act like one, don’t let anyone make u be one. If u think someone is a problem, let her/him take it all on her/his own, don’t partake. I don’t care if one or many are doing the same. Just because others are doing it, I won’t start disparaging insult after insult and constantly degrade someone else no matter what. It’s gotten so bad around here that now putting someone down with words is the norm and no ones sees nothing wrong with it anymore. Sickening.

Posted 4/26/21 2:27 PM
 

Hofstra26
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Re: Resuming “normal” life

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by Sash

Posted by LuckyStar

Posted by JennP


Enough already. Honestly, if I ran this site I would pull the thread. I know there have been some chuckles and some good faith attempts to change the subject but on the whole it makes this site look like a social media cesspool.



I think we are well past that point, my friend Chat Icon



Seriously, pretty late to the party. It’s been a cesspool for months and both sides equally contribute to the garbage. It’s not only VB.



Exactly what I was gonna say. All the non stop bullying, and constant name calling going on for quite a while have def contributed to that social media cesspool look.



Every time VB gets banned, this site gets exponentially better. Every time. She's 100% of the problem and most everyone on this site is sick of her antics. The less she posts, the more productive the conversation.



Sorry but the way some people treat others, especially her is truly disgusting and vile, period. There’s no excuse or justification for responding in that manner and yes people that behave that way are part of the problem whether some want to admit it or not. When are we gonna start assuming responsibility for our actions? Nobody has power enough to make me be a bully. If u think u’re not then don’t act like one, don’t let anyone make u be one. If u think someone is a problem, let her/him take it all on her/his own, don’t partake. I don’t care if one or many are doing the same. Just because others are doing it, I won’t start disparaging insult after insult and constantly degrade someone else no matter what. It’s gotten so bad around here that now putting someone down with words is the norm and no ones sees nothing wrong with it anymore. Sickening.



I disagree with you and if you go back and reread posts when VB isn't on here, the conversation among everyone is FAR more friendly, kind and productive even when two people are disagreeing. Don't think for even a second that one person cannot completely bring down a conversation.

VB comes on here EVERY day and goes out of her way to derail every post. It is completely INTENTIONAL. She's so predictable. The routine is to post a dumb question to get a rise out of people, people answer, she asks again, people answer again, continue to post SAME question while getting progressively more condescending and self righteous and then when people go off on her she whines that she's always being attacked and people are "mean". 99% of the people left on this site are well aware of the games she's playing and are fed up with her.

I will continue to say it, VB is NO victim. She is rude, condescending, passive aggressive and antagonizing. She gets back from everyone what she puts out there. That is a FACT.

Message edited 4/26/2021 2:40:06 PM.

Posted 4/26/21 2:39 PM
 

Sash
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Member since 6/08

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Re: Resuming “normal” life

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by Sash

Posted by LuckyStar

Posted by JennP


Enough already. Honestly, if I ran this site I would pull the thread. I know there have been some chuckles and some good faith attempts to change the subject but on the whole it makes this site look like a social media cesspool.



I think we are well past that point, my friend Chat Icon



Seriously, pretty late to the party. It’s been a cesspool for months and both sides equally contribute to the garbage. It’s not only VB.



Exactly what I was gonna say. All the non stop bullying, and constant name calling going on for quite a while have def contributed to that social media cesspool look.



Every time VB gets banned, this site gets exponentially better. Every time. She's 100% of the problem and most everyone on this site is sick of her antics. The less she posts, the more productive the conversation.



Sorry but the way some people treat others, especially her is truly disgusting and vile, period. There’s no excuse or justification for responding in that manner and yes people that behave that way are part of the problem whether some want to admit it or not. When are we gonna start assuming responsibility for our actions? Nobody has power enough to make me be a bully. If u think u’re not then don’t act like one, don’t let anyone make u be one. If u think someone is a problem, let her/him take it all on her/his own, don’t partake. I don’t care if one or many are doing the same. Just because others are doing it, I won’t start disparaging insult after insult and constantly degrade someone else no matter what. It’s gotten so bad around here that now putting someone down with words is the norm and no ones sees nothing wrong with it anymore. Sickening.



Hey there,

Let me introduce you to a nice woman called Ms. Accountability. You should get to know her better, perhaps become real good friends with her.

Sincerely,

You are part of the problem too

Posted 4/26/21 2:42 PM
 

LittleDiva
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Member since 9/11

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Re: Resuming “normal” life

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by Sash

Posted by LuckyStar

Posted by JennP


Enough already. Honestly, if I ran this site I would pull the thread. I know there have been some chuckles and some good faith attempts to change the subject but on the whole it makes this site look like a social media cesspool.



I think we are well past that point, my friend Chat Icon



Seriously, pretty late to the party. It’s been a cesspool for months and both sides equally contribute to the garbage. It’s not only VB.



Exactly what I was gonna say. All the non stop bullying, and constant name calling going on for quite a while have def contributed to that social media cesspool look.



Every time VB gets banned, this site gets exponentially better. Every time. She's 100% of the problem and most everyone on this site is sick of her antics. The less she posts, the more productive the conversation.



Sorry but the way some people treat others, especially her is truly disgusting and vile, period. There’s no excuse or justification for responding in that manner and yes people that behave that way are part of the problem whether some want to admit it or not. When are we gonna start assuming responsibility for our actions? Nobody has power enough to make me be a bully. If u think u’re not then don’t act like one, don’t let anyone make u be one. If u think someone is a problem, let her/him take it all on her/his own, don’t partake. I don’t care if one or many are doing the same. Just because others are doing it, I won’t start disparaging insult after insult and constantly degrade someone else no matter what. It’s gotten so bad around here that now putting someone down with words is the norm and no ones sees nothing wrong with it anymore. Sickening.



I disagree with you and if you go back and reread posts when VB isn't on here, the conversation among everyone is FAR more friendly, kind and productive even when two people are disagreeing. Don't think for even a second that one person cannot completely bring down a conversation.

VB comes on here EVERY day and goes out of her way to derail every post. It is completely INTENTIONAL. She's so predictable. The routine is to post a dumb question to get a rise out of people, people answer, she asks again, people answer again, continue to post SAME question while getting progressively more condescending and self righteous and then when people go off on her she whines that she's always being attacked and people are "mean". 99% of the people left on this site are well aware of the games she's playing and are fed up with her.

I will continue to say it, VB is NO victim. She is rude, condescending, passive aggressive and antagonizing. She gets back from everyone what she puts out there. That is a FACT.



At the same time you go out of your way to criticize every single comment she makes. She can’t post anything without you commenting. You single her out and it’s pretty obvious. It’s not her derailing the conversation, it’s also you commenting on every single thing she says that derails the convo

Posted 4/26/21 9:41 PM
 

Hofstra26
Love to Bake!

Member since 7/06

27915 total posts

Name:

Re: Resuming “normal” life

Posted by LittleDiva

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by Sash

Posted by LuckyStar

Posted by JennP


Enough already. Honestly, if I ran this site I would pull the thread. I know there have been some chuckles and some good faith attempts to change the subject but on the whole it makes this site look like a social media cesspool.



I think we are well past that point, my friend Chat Icon



Seriously, pretty late to the party. It’s been a cesspool for months and both sides equally contribute to the garbage. It’s not only VB.



Exactly what I was gonna say. All the non stop bullying, and constant name calling going on for quite a while have def contributed to that social media cesspool look.



Every time VB gets banned, this site gets exponentially better. Every time. She's 100% of the problem and most everyone on this site is sick of her antics. The less she posts, the more productive the conversation.



Sorry but the way some people treat others, especially her is truly disgusting and vile, period. There’s no excuse or justification for responding in that manner and yes people that behave that way are part of the problem whether some want to admit it or not. When are we gonna start assuming responsibility for our actions? Nobody has power enough to make me be a bully. If u think u’re not then don’t act like one, don’t let anyone make u be one. If u think someone is a problem, let her/him take it all on her/his own, don’t partake. I don’t care if one or many are doing the same. Just because others are doing it, I won’t start disparaging insult after insult and constantly degrade someone else no matter what. It’s gotten so bad around here that now putting someone down with words is the norm and no ones sees nothing wrong with it anymore. Sickening.



I disagree with you and if you go back and reread posts when VB isn't on here, the conversation among everyone is FAR more friendly, kind and productive even when two people are disagreeing. Don't think for even a second that one person cannot completely bring down a conversation.

VB comes on here EVERY day and goes out of her way to derail every post. It is completely INTENTIONAL. She's so predictable. The routine is to post a dumb question to get a rise out of people, people answer, she asks again, people answer again, continue to post SAME question while getting progressively more condescending and self righteous and then when people go off on her she whines that she's always being attacked and people are "mean". 99% of the people left on this site are well aware of the games she's playing and are fed up with her.

I will continue to say it, VB is NO victim. She is rude, condescending, passive aggressive and antagonizing. She gets back from everyone what she puts out there. That is a FACT.



At the same time you go out of your way to criticize every single comment she makes. She can’t post anything without you commenting. You single her out and it’s pretty obvious. It’s not her derailing the conversation, it’s also you commenting on every single thing she says that derails the convo



Almost everyone on here singles her out because her comments are often ignorant, misinformed and ridiculously repetitive. As another poster pointed out, dealing with VB is like dealing with a toddler. Why, why, why, why.........repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat. Chat Icon

Posted 4/26/21 10:40 PM
 

lululu
LIF Adult

Member since 7/05

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Re: Resuming “normal” life

If it wasn’t for the VB/Hofstra drama I probably would have stopped even posting here a while ago. It’s so completely entertaining. Hofstra, you are so ridiculous because you’re a grown woman who can’t even stop engaging with an internet stranger who constantly gets under your skin. Go create a Facebook page so you and your friends can just all pat each other on the back about how smart you all are. It’s not more pleasant without VB here! It’s a snooze fest. If you’re pretending you don’t enjoy the drama, you’re kidding yourself.

As for the original post, covid has given me my best life and I hope for those of us still living, still able to breathe this air, the whole covid experience would have taught us how precious life is and go out and enjoy it in whatever way makes you happiest! Travel! Stay home! Wear a mask while you’re driving around alone because maybe you don’t want people to see that you’re belting out Barry manilow as you cruise down the LIE. Who the eff cares?!?!

Posted 4/26/21 10:47 PM
 

Hofstra26
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Member since 7/06

27915 total posts

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Re: Resuming “normal” life

Posted by lululu

If it wasn’t for the VB/Hofstra drama I probably would have stopped even posting here a while ago. It’s so completely entertaining. Hofstra, you are so ridiculous because you’re a grown woman who can’t even stop engaging with an internet stranger who constantly gets under your skin. Go create a Facebook page so you and your friends can just all pat each other on the back about how smart you all are. It’s not more pleasant without VB here! It’s a snooze fest. If you’re pretending you don’t enjoy the drama, you’re kidding yourself.

As for the original post, covid has given me my best life and I hope for those of us still living, still able to breathe this air, the whole covid experience would have taught us how precious life is and go out and enjoy it in whatever way makes you happiest! Travel! Stay home! Wear a mask while you’re driving around alone because maybe you don’t want people to see that you’re belting out Barry manilow as you cruise down the LIE. Who the eff cares?!?!



Nobody but you misses that psycho every time she gets banned. Weird that a grown woman such as yourself keeps defending an internet troll. To each his own I guess.

Glad you're living your best life.

Posted 4/26/21 10:56 PM
 

lululu
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Member since 7/05

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Re: Resuming “normal” life

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by lululu

If it wasn’t for the VB/Hofstra drama I probably would have stopped even posting here a while ago. It’s so completely entertaining. Hofstra, you are so ridiculous because you’re a grown woman who can’t even stop engaging with an internet stranger who constantly gets under your skin. Go create a Facebook page so you and your friends can just all pat each other on the back about how smart you all are. It’s not more pleasant without VB here! It’s a snooze fest. If you’re pretending you don’t enjoy the drama, you’re kidding yourself.

As for the original post, covid has given me my best life and I hope for those of us still living, still able to breathe this air, the whole covid experience would have taught us how precious life is and go out and enjoy it in whatever way makes you happiest! Travel! Stay home! Wear a mask while you’re driving around alone because maybe you don’t want people to see that you’re belting out Barry manilow as you cruise down the LIE. Who the eff cares?!?!



Nobody but you misses that psycho every time she gets banned. Weird that a grown woman such as yourself keeps defending an internet troll. To each his own I guess.

Glad you're living your best life.



Go back on this and every other post. There are a ton of other posters who “defend” her. The fact that you think that everyone hates her because you and your little LIF friend group does shows how in every way you have yet to move past high school. Grow up and just stop responding to her instead of spewing your condescending bull sh*t all over this site.

Posted 4/26/21 11:01 PM
 

Hofstra26
Love to Bake!

Member since 7/06

27915 total posts

Name:

Re: Resuming “normal” life

Posted by lululu

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by lululu

If it wasn’t for the VB/Hofstra drama I probably would have stopped even posting here a while ago. It’s so completely entertaining. Hofstra, you are so ridiculous because you’re a grown woman who can’t even stop engaging with an internet stranger who constantly gets under your skin. Go create a Facebook page so you and your friends can just all pat each other on the back about how smart you all are. It’s not more pleasant without VB here! It’s a snooze fest. If you’re pretending you don’t enjoy the drama, you’re kidding yourself.

As for the original post, covid has given me my best life and I hope for those of us still living, still able to breathe this air, the whole covid experience would have taught us how precious life is and go out and enjoy it in whatever way makes you happiest! Travel! Stay home! Wear a mask while you’re driving around alone because maybe you don’t want people to see that you’re belting out Barry manilow as you cruise down the LIE. Who the eff cares?!?!



Nobody but you misses that psycho every time she gets banned. Weird that a grown woman such as yourself keeps defending an internet troll. To each his own I guess.

Glad you're living your best life.



Go back on this and every other post. There are a ton of other posters who “defend” her. The fact that you think that everyone hates her because you and your little LIF friend group does shows how in every way you have yet to move past high school. Grow up and just stop responding to her instead of spewing your condescending bull sh*t all over this site.



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