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Re: Healthcare workers
Posted by NervousNell
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If it's your job or the vaccine that isn't a choice that's coercion. GTFOH with the choice stuff. If your boss says sleep with me or lose your job and your sleep with him did you make a free choice? It's authoritarian BS and especially silly for a non sterilizing vaccine with zero manufacturer liability if something goes wrong.
I’ve been noticing that generally people that don’t have a problem with the vaccine are the same ones that don’t see how this is not a choice and/or don’t really see mandates problematic. They might say...I don’t agree with it being mandating, blah, blah, blah but under the same breath they’re showing how they really don’t see it as a problem and are not even bothered or concerned about it.
That's because it doesn't affect them.
The thing that I find so common on this board and I guess life in general is that people no longer have empathy. I am not in the situation where I will have to choose between my job and livelihood and getting vaccinate but I can certainly empathize with those that do and realize that for many people it is not a choice. They are being forced to do something that they would not ordinarily want to do or suffer major ramifications. I truly feel for these people. Perhaps because we are all very close to being put in the same situation with regards to getting our children vaccinated or having to home school them or move, which for many people will not be a viable option.
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Re: Healthcare workers
Posted by MrsA1012
If it's your job or the vaccine that isn't a choice that's coercion. GTFOH with the choice stuff. If your boss says sleep with me or lose your job and your sleep with him did you make a free choice? It's authoritarian BS and especially silly for a non sterilizing vaccine with zero manufacturer liability if something goes wrong.
Umm yes if my boss gave me that choice and I chose to sleep with him that’s on me.
Personally I wouldn’t and risk getting fired. I would be reporting them etc. Yes I will still have to figure out how I will pay my bills feed my children but nobody will make me do anything I truly don’t want to do! I will CHOOSE to something else even if that means I maybe struggling and on the streets I will find a way though!!
Again no matter what it’s a choice. No one was fired in the spot everyone knew the date was coming and they could have started making the arrangements they needed to either get the vaccine or look for a new job.
And again the choices suck and I do feel bad for them but it is a choice it’s all I am saying.
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Re: Healthcare workers
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Ridiculous. It is a choice. It's a sucky choice but it is a choice. Vaccines are mandated for a child to attend school. If you CHOOSE not to vaccinate your child you CHOOSE not to send them to a public school. If you CHOOSE not to be vaccinated during a pandemic then you CHOOSE to find a different occupation. I don't like the choice, don't even agree with the mandates necessarily. But it is a choice.
Vaccines that have been out long enough to know side effects and to know they work.
When is the last time you saw someone get chicken pox after having that vaccine? Or polio or mumps, or, or.
Exactly...what is it that people don't understand?? The COVID vaccine absolutely does NOT protect you from getting or spreading COVID it just does not. Please explain to me how exactly is this vaccine mandate helping the public? I mean it's shocking to me that people don't see the facts that are right in front of their face. 
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Re: Healthcare workers
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by MrsA1012
If it's your job or the vaccine that isn't a choice that's coercion. GTFOH with the choice stuff. If your boss says sleep with me or lose your job and your sleep with him did you make a free choice? It's authoritarian BS and especially silly for a non sterilizing vaccine with zero manufacturer liability if something goes wrong.
I’ve been noticing that generally people that don’t have a problem with the vaccine are the same ones that don’t see how this is not a choice and/or don’t really see mandates problematic. They might say...I don’t agree with it being mandating, blah, blah, blah but under the same breath they’re showing how they really don’t see it as a problem and are not even bothered or concerned about it.
That's because it doesn't affect them.
Yup it doesn't affect them so they don't care..they have no empathy yet they are some of the very same people that claim they are open minded and tolerant. 
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Re: Healthcare workers
Posted by lululu
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by MrsA1012
If it's your job or the vaccine that isn't a choice that's coercion. GTFOH with the choice stuff. If your boss says sleep with me or lose your job and your sleep with him did you make a free choice? It's authoritarian BS and especially silly for a non sterilizing vaccine with zero manufacturer liability if something goes wrong.
I’ve been noticing that generally people that don’t have a problem with the vaccine are the same ones that don’t see how this is not a choice and/or don’t really see mandates problematic. They might say...I don’t agree with it being mandating, blah, blah, blah but under the same breath they’re showing how they really don’t see it as a problem and are not even bothered or concerned about it.
That's because it doesn't affect them.
The thing that I find so common on this board and I guess life in general is that people no longer have empathy. I am not in the situation where I will have to choose between my job and livelihood and getting vaccinate but I can certainly empathize with those that do and realize that for many people it is not a choice. They are being forced to do something that they would not ordinarily want to do or suffer major ramifications. I truly feel for these people. Perhaps because we are all very close to being put in the same situation with regards to getting our children vaccinated or having to home school them or move, which for many people will not be a viable option.
I’m fine with the vaccine. In the long run don’t think mandates are necessary that still doesn’t change the fact the it’s still a choice!!!
Im also on the fence in vaccinating my kids FTR.
But I’ll admit I am not out there fighting to overturn it but guess what there is a lot of stuff I don’t agree that I don’t bother going to make a stand about!!
How many people are sitting on social media sites complaining about all these mandates but that’s all they are doing.
How many are actually writing to their Congressmen. Out protesting, joining law suits etc. most probably aren’t they are just complaining and doing nothing about it!!
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Re: Healthcare workers
Posted by jellybean78
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Posted by mommy2devin
Ridiculous. It is a choice. It's a sucky choice but it is a choice. Vaccines are mandated for a child to attend school. If you CHOOSE not to vaccinate your child you CHOOSE not to send them to a public school. If you CHOOSE not to be vaccinated during a pandemic then you CHOOSE to find a different occupation. I don't like the choice, don't even agree with the mandates necessarily. But it is a choice.
Vaccines that have been out long enough to know side effects and to know they work.
When is the last time you saw someone get chicken pox after having that vaccine? Or polio or mumps, or, or.
Exactly...what is it that people don't understand?? The COVID vaccine absolutely does NOT protect you from getting or spreading COVID it just does not. Please explain to me how exactly is this vaccine mandate helping the public? I mean it's shocking to me that people don't see the facts that are right in front of their face.
They can’t admit this is NOTHING like other vaccines and it is being shown that you can still get sick so the mandates are absolutely ridiculous. All power and control of the government.
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Re: Healthcare workers
Posted by blu6385
Posted by MrsA1012
If it's your job or the vaccine that isn't a choice that's coercion. GTFOH with the choice stuff. If your boss says sleep with me or lose your job and your sleep with him did you make a free choice? It's authoritarian BS and especially silly for a non sterilizing vaccine with zero manufacturer liability if something goes wrong.
Umm yes if my boss gave me that choice and I chose to sleep with him that’s on me.
Personally I wouldn’t and risk getting fired. I would be reporting them etc. Yes I will still have to figure out how I will pay my bills feed my children but nobody will make me do anything I truly don’t want to do! I will CHOOSE to something else even if that means I maybe struggling and on the streets I will find a way though!!
Again no matter what it’s a choice. No one was fired in the spot everyone knew the date was coming and they could have started making the arrangements they needed to either get the vaccine or look for a new job.
And again the choices suck and I do feel bad for them but it is a choice it’s all I am saying.
Have you ever been homeless?
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Re: Healthcare workers
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by blu6385
Posted by MrsA1012
If it's your job or the vaccine that isn't a choice that's coercion. GTFOH with the choice stuff. If your boss says sleep with me or lose your job and your sleep with him did you make a free choice? It's authoritarian BS and especially silly for a non sterilizing vaccine with zero manufacturer liability if something goes wrong.
Umm yes if my boss gave me that choice and I chose to sleep with him that’s on me.
Personally I wouldn’t and risk getting fired. I would be reporting them etc. Yes I will still have to figure out how I will pay my bills feed my children but nobody will make me do anything I truly don’t want to do! I will CHOOSE to something else even if that means I maybe struggling and on the streets I will find a way though!!
Again no matter what it’s a choice. No one was fired in the spot everyone knew the date was coming and they could have started making the arrangements they needed to either get the vaccine or look for a new job.
And again the choices suck and I do feel bad for them but it is a choice it’s all I am saying.
Have you ever been homeless?
No but what does that have anything to do with the choice i would make. I know I would never do anything I didn’t truly want to do cause I was afraid of being fired especially sleeping with someone.
Will I be scared and upset especially for my children yes 100% but that wouldn’t stop me from getting fired. I also wouldn’t be going quietly I would be doing everything to fight it!!
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Re: Healthcare workers
Posted by blu6385
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by blu6385
Posted by MrsA1012
If it's your job or the vaccine that isn't a choice that's coercion. GTFOH with the choice stuff. If your boss says sleep with me or lose your job and your sleep with him did you make a free choice? It's authoritarian BS and especially silly for a non sterilizing vaccine with zero manufacturer liability if something goes wrong.
Umm yes if my boss gave me that choice and I chose to sleep with him that’s on me.
Personally I wouldn’t and risk getting fired. I would be reporting them etc. Yes I will still have to figure out how I will pay my bills feed my children but nobody will make me do anything I truly don’t want to do! I will CHOOSE to something else even if that means I maybe struggling and on the streets I will find a way though!!
Again no matter what it’s a choice. No one was fired in the spot everyone knew the date was coming and they could have started making the arrangements they needed to either get the vaccine or look for a new job.
And again the choices suck and I do feel bad for them but it is a choice it’s all I am saying.
Have you ever been homeless?
No but what does that have anything to do with the choice i would make. I know I would never do anything I didn’t truly want to do cause I was afraid of being fired especially sleeping with someone.
Will I be scared and upset especially for my children yes 100% but that wouldn’t stop me from getting fired. I also wouldn’t be going quietly I would be doing everything to fight it!!
Sounded like you have been because you take it lightly about not having a job and living on the streets.
“I will CHOOSE to something else even if that means I maybe struggling and on the streets I will find a way though!! “
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Re: Healthcare workers
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by blu6385
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by blu6385
Posted by MrsA1012
If it's your job or the vaccine that isn't a choice that's coercion. GTFOH with the choice stuff. If your boss says sleep with me or lose your job and your sleep with him did you make a free choice? It's authoritarian BS and especially silly for a non sterilizing vaccine with zero manufacturer liability if something goes wrong.
Umm yes if my boss gave me that choice and I chose to sleep with him that’s on me.
Personally I wouldn’t and risk getting fired. I would be reporting them etc. Yes I will still have to figure out how I will pay my bills feed my children but nobody will make me do anything I truly don’t want to do! I will CHOOSE to something else even if that means I maybe struggling and on the streets I will find a way though!!
Again no matter what it’s a choice. No one was fired in the spot everyone knew the date was coming and they could have started making the arrangements they needed to either get the vaccine or look for a new job.
And again the choices suck and I do feel bad for them but it is a choice it’s all I am saying.
Have you ever been homeless?
No but what does that have anything to do with the choice i would make. I know I would never do anything I didn’t truly want to do cause I was afraid of being fired especially sleeping with someone.
Will I be scared and upset especially for my children yes 100% but that wouldn’t stop me from getting fired. I also wouldn’t be going quietly I would be doing everything to fight it!!
Sounded like you have been because you take it lightly about not having a job and living on the streets.
“I will CHOOSE to something else even if that means I maybe struggling and on the streets I will find a way though!! “
I don’t take it lightly but I know what I’m willing to do and not do. And Im confident in that.
But really another example was given that is off topic.
My whole point is we always have a choice and though they suck and consequences can be severe it’s always a choice.
And again unlike other couriers when you truly have no choice.
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Companies are literally begging for employees. These people can find other jobs that don’t require them to be vaccinated.
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Re: Healthcare workers
Posted by LuckyStar
Companies are literally begging for employees. These people can find other jobs that don’t require them to be vaccinated.
Do you honestly think people want to go work in retail or a restaurant after being a doctor or nurse?
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Re: Healthcare workers
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by LuckyStar
Companies are literally begging for employees. These people can find other jobs that don’t require them to be vaccinated.
Do you honestly think people want to go work in retail or a restaurant after being a doctor or nurse?
No, huge companies are hiring in droves. Pharma is hiring left and right. I must get 10 linked in messages a week from pharma companies. There are plenty of jobs to be had in non patient facing healthcare roles.
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Re: Healthcare workers
Posted by LuckyStar
Companies are literally begging for employees. These people can find other jobs that don’t require them to be vaccinated.
For their sake I honestly hope so. I know Corporate America is desperate for good talent; my company included. There is no vax requirement at this time and because of high attrition the salary and bonuses being offered are very attractive.
I hope that every single one of those people who were terminated because of their vaccination stance finds better employment.
Such a sucky position to be in.
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Re: Healthcare workers
Posted by LuckyStar
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by LuckyStar
Companies are literally begging for employees. These people can find other jobs that don’t require them to be vaccinated.
Do you honestly think people want to go work in retail or a restaurant after being a doctor or nurse?
No, huge companies are hiring in droves. Pharma is hiring left and right. I must get 10 linked in messages a week from pharma companies. There are plenty of jobs to be had in non patient facing healthcare roles.
They wouldn’t have to be vaccinated? Not all hospital workers who are required to be vaccinated come in contact with the public either.
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Re: Healthcare workers
Posted by lululu
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by MrsA1012
If it's your job or the vaccine that isn't a choice that's coercion. GTFOH with the choice stuff. If your boss says sleep with me or lose your job and your sleep with him did you make a free choice? It's authoritarian BS and especially silly for a non sterilizing vaccine with zero manufacturer liability if something goes wrong.
I’ve been noticing that generally people that don’t have a problem with the vaccine are the same ones that don’t see how this is not a choice and/or don’t really see mandates problematic. They might say...I don’t agree with it being mandating, blah, blah, blah but under the same breath they’re showing how they really don’t see it as a problem and are not even bothered or concerned about it.
That's because it doesn't affect them.
The thing that I find so common on this board and I guess life in general is that people no longer have empathy. I am not in the situation where I will have to choose between my job and livelihood and getting vaccinate but I can certainly empathize with those that do and realize that for many people it is not a choice. They are being forced to do something that they would not ordinarily want to do or suffer major ramifications. I truly feel for these people. Perhaps because we are all very close to being put in the same situation with regards to getting our children vaccinated or having to home school them or move, which for many people will not be a viable option.
This exactly. The lack of empathy is truly staggering.
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| Posted 9/29/21 9:13 PM |
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Re: Healthcare workers
Posted by blu6385
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by blu6385
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by blu6385
Posted by MrsA1012
If it's your job or the vaccine that isn't a choice that's coercion. GTFOH with the choice stuff. If your boss says sleep with me or lose your job and your sleep with him did you make a free choice? It's authoritarian BS and especially silly for a non sterilizing vaccine with zero manufacturer liability if something goes wrong.
Umm yes if my boss gave me that choice and I chose to sleep with him that’s on me.
Personally I wouldn’t and risk getting fired. I would be reporting them etc. Yes I will still have to figure out how I will pay my bills feed my children but nobody will make me do anything I truly don’t want to do! I will CHOOSE to something else even if that means I maybe struggling and on the streets I will find a way though!!
Again no matter what it’s a choice. No one was fired in the spot everyone knew the date was coming and they could have started making the arrangements they needed to either get the vaccine or look for a new job.
And again the choices suck and I do feel bad for them but it is a choice it’s all I am saying.
Have you ever been homeless?
No but what does that have anything to do with the choice i would make. I know I would never do anything I didn’t truly want to do cause I was afraid of being fired especially sleeping with someone.
Will I be scared and upset especially for my children yes 100% but that wouldn’t stop me from getting fired. I also wouldn’t be going quietly I would be doing everything to fight it!!
Sounded like you have been because you take it lightly about not having a job and living on the streets.
“I will CHOOSE to something else even if that means I maybe struggling and on the streets I will find a way though!! “
I don’t take it lightly but I know what I’m willing to do and not do. And Im confident in that.
But really another example was given that is off topic.
My whole point is we always have a choice and though they suck and consequences can be severe it’s always a choice.
And again unlike other couriers when you truly have no choice.
I don’t know you at all but I’m going to venture a guess that you would not allow your kids to be homeless and starving out on the streets because you were willing to lose your livelihood over any reason at all. I understand we all have principles but not everyone is in a situation where they can just find another job, home school their kids, move to another state, etc, etc. Of course when it comes down to it, it is a choice. But it’s not a fair choice. Just like the abortion ban in Texas. Those women can just choose to go to another state, right? Just like voter rights, people can choose to get themselves proper ID or live closer to a polling place. Just because it’s a choice for YOU does not mean it’s a choice for everyone. Okay I am done beating this dead horse because you will never get it and I’m not going to be the one to open your eyes.
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Re: Healthcare workers
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by LuckyStar
Companies are literally begging for employees. These people can find other jobs that don’t require them to be vaccinated.
For their sake I honestly hope so. I know Corporate America is desperate for good talent; my company included. There is no vax requirement at this time and because of high attrition the salary and bonuses being offered are very attractive.
I hope that every single one of those people who were terminated because of their vaccination stance finds better employment.
Such a sucky position to be in.
Sounds just like my company. We are desperate right now for many openings.
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Re: Healthcare workers
Posted by lululu
Posted by blu6385
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by blu6385
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by blu6385
Posted by MrsA1012
If it's your job or the vaccine that isn't a choice that's coercion. GTFOH with the choice stuff. If your boss says sleep with me or lose your job and your sleep with him did you make a free choice? It's authoritarian BS and especially silly for a non sterilizing vaccine with zero manufacturer liability if something goes wrong.
Umm yes if my boss gave me that choice and I chose to sleep with him that’s on me.
Personally I wouldn’t and risk getting fired. I would be reporting them etc. Yes I will still have to figure out how I will pay my bills feed my children but nobody will make me do anything I truly don’t want to do! I will CHOOSE to something else even if that means I maybe struggling and on the streets I will find a way though!!
Again no matter what it’s a choice. No one was fired in the spot everyone knew the date was coming and they could have started making the arrangements they needed to either get the vaccine or look for a new job.
And again the choices suck and I do feel bad for them but it is a choice it’s all I am saying.
Have you ever been homeless?
No but what does that have anything to do with the choice i would make. I know I would never do anything I didn’t truly want to do cause I was afraid of being fired especially sleeping with someone.
Will I be scared and upset especially for my children yes 100% but that wouldn’t stop me from getting fired. I also wouldn’t be going quietly I would be doing everything to fight it!!
Sounded like you have been because you take it lightly about not having a job and living on the streets.
“I will CHOOSE to something else even if that means I maybe struggling and on the streets I will find a way though!! “
I don’t take it lightly but I know what I’m willing to do and not do. And Im confident in that.
But really another example was given that is off topic.
My whole point is we always have a choice and though they suck and consequences can be severe it’s always a choice.
And again unlike other couriers when you truly have no choice.
I don’t know you at all but I’m going to venture a guess that you would not allow your kids to be homeless and starving out on the streets because you were willing to lose your livelihood over any reason at all. I understand we all have principles but not everyone is in a situation where they can just find another job, home school their kids, move to another state, etc, etc. Of course when it comes down to it, it is a choice. But it’s not a fair choice. Just like the abortion ban in Texas. Those women can just choose to go to another state, right? Just like voter rights, people can choose to get themselves proper ID or live closer to a polling place. Just because it’s a choice for YOU does not mean it’s a choice for everyone. Okay I am done beating this dead horse because you will never get it and I’m not going to be the one to open your eyes.
Yoi don’t know me but I can promise you I would never sleep with someone for a job no matter the consequences. Even if it means me and my kids are on the street. And I never said for any reason but for any reason i truly believe it’s worth.
Either way you are saying what I am saying it’s a choice not a Fair choice but a choice. Which I have repeatedly said is my point.
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Re: Healthcare workers
Posted by blu6385
Posted by lululu
Posted by blu6385
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by blu6385
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by blu6385
Posted by MrsA1012
If it's your job or the vaccine that isn't a choice that's coercion. GTFOH with the choice stuff. If your boss says sleep with me or lose your job and your sleep with him did you make a free choice? It's authoritarian BS and especially silly for a non sterilizing vaccine with zero manufacturer liability if something goes wrong.
Umm yes if my boss gave me that choice and I chose to sleep with him that’s on me.
Personally I wouldn’t and risk getting fired. I would be reporting them etc. Yes I will still have to figure out how I will pay my bills feed my children but nobody will make me do anything I truly don’t want to do! I will CHOOSE to something else even if that means I maybe struggling and on the streets I will find a way though!!
Again no matter what it’s a choice. No one was fired in the spot everyone knew the date was coming and they could have started making the arrangements they needed to either get the vaccine or look for a new job.
And again the choices suck and I do feel bad for them but it is a choice it’s all I am saying.
Have you ever been homeless?
No but what does that have anything to do with the choice i would make. I know I would never do anything I didn’t truly want to do cause I was afraid of being fired especially sleeping with someone.
Will I be scared and upset especially for my children yes 100% but that wouldn’t stop me from getting fired. I also wouldn’t be going quietly I would be doing everything to fight it!!
Sounded like you have been because you take it lightly about not having a job and living on the streets.
“I will CHOOSE to something else even if that means I maybe struggling and on the streets I will find a way though!! “
I don’t take it lightly but I know what I’m willing to do and not do. And Im confident in that.
But really another example was given that is off topic.
My whole point is we always have a choice and though they suck and consequences can be severe it’s always a choice.
And again unlike other couriers when you truly have no choice.
I don’t know you at all but I’m going to venture a guess that you would not allow your kids to be homeless and starving out on the streets because you were willing to lose your livelihood over any reason at all. I understand we all have principles but not everyone is in a situation where they can just find another job, home school their kids, move to another state, etc, etc. Of course when it comes down to it, it is a choice. But it’s not a fair choice. Just like the abortion ban in Texas. Those women can just choose to go to another state, right? Just like voter rights, people can choose to get themselves proper ID or live closer to a polling place. Just because it’s a choice for YOU does not mean it’s a choice for everyone. Okay I am done beating this dead horse because you will never get it and I’m not going to be the one to open your eyes.
Yoi don’t know me but I can promise you I would never sleep with someone for a job no matter the consequences. Even if it means me and my kids are on the street. And I never said for any reason but for any reason i truly believe it’s worth.
Either way you are saying what I am saying it’s a choice not a Fair choice but a choice. Which I have repeatedly said is my point.
I was not implying you would sleep with someone, I was speaking about getting yourself or your child a vaccine that you might be opposed to and not having the means to not comply.
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Re: Healthcare workers
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by LuckyStar
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by LuckyStar
Companies are literally begging for employees. These people can find other jobs that don’t require them to be vaccinated.
Do you honestly think people want to go work in retail or a restaurant after being a doctor or nurse?
No, huge companies are hiring in droves. Pharma is hiring left and right. I must get 10 linked in messages a week from pharma companies. There are plenty of jobs to be had in non patient facing healthcare roles.
They wouldn’t have to be vaccinated? Not all hospital workers who are required to be vaccinated come in contact with the public either.
I know. I’m one of them (though I was vaccinated long before the mandate).
TBH, I have no idea what pharma companies are requiring but most of the jobs I see are remote.
From what I understand, the majority of people who are refusing the vaccine are CNAs, phlebotomists and non patient facing roles. I would imagine it would be fairly simple to get an equivalent salary in this job market. These are not high paying jobs they’re leaving.
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Re: Healthcare workers
Posted by LuckyStar
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Companies are literally begging for employees. These people can find other jobs that don’t require them to be vaccinated.
Do you honestly think people want to go work in retail or a restaurant after being a doctor or nurse?
No, huge companies are hiring in droves. Pharma is hiring left and right. I must get 10 linked in messages a week from pharma companies. There are plenty of jobs to be had in non patient facing healthcare roles.
They wouldn’t have to be vaccinated? Not all hospital workers who are required to be vaccinated come in contact with the public either.
I know. I’m one of them (though I was vaccinated long before the mandate).
TBH, I have no idea what pharma companies are requiring but most of the jobs I see are remote.
From what I understand, the majority of people who are refusing the vaccine are CNAs, phlebotomists and non patient facing roles. I would imagine it would be fairly simple to get an equivalent salary in this job market. These are not high paying jobs they’re leaving.
So you mention these jobs but don’t really know what they require, SMH.
The nurse I have always spoken about has a high paying job, so not all are peons (in your eyes) with minimum wage jobs.
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Re: Healthcare workers
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by LuckyStar
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by LuckyStar
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by LuckyStar
Companies are literally begging for employees. These people can find other jobs that don’t require them to be vaccinated.
Do you honestly think people want to go work in retail or a restaurant after being a doctor or nurse?
No, huge companies are hiring in droves. Pharma is hiring left and right. I must get 10 linked in messages a week from pharma companies. There are plenty of jobs to be had in non patient facing healthcare roles.
They wouldn’t have to be vaccinated? Not all hospital workers who are required to be vaccinated come in contact with the public either.
I know. I’m one of them (though I was vaccinated long before the mandate).
TBH, I have no idea what pharma companies are requiring but most of the jobs I see are remote.
From what I understand, the majority of people who are refusing the vaccine are CNAs, phlebotomists and non patient facing roles. I would imagine it would be fairly simple to get an equivalent salary in this job market. These are not high paying jobs they’re leaving.
So you mention these jobs but don’t really know what they require, SMH.
The nurse I have always spoken about has a high paying job, so not all are peons (in your eyes) with minimum wage jobs.
Why would I know what any given job requires? I’m not indeed.com.
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Raging2020
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Healthcare workers
THE VACCINE DOES NOT PROTECT PATIENTS FROM CATCHING COVID. Every single person who enters a hospital room is wearing PPE and washing / sanitizing their hands. There is no reason for the mandate!!!
And to not require the out of state workers replacing them to be vaccinated until June is a f@cking joke!! How don’t people see this???
Think about it…..did you ever in your life care if someone near you had a vaccine?? Why are we suddenly caring???
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Re: Healthcare workers
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Since it was only yesterday the mandate took effect, it will probably be a while before we see any major issues. Personally I think it was a big slap in the face to every single health worker who worked tirelessly through the Pandemic to be given this ultimatum.
I’m wondering how it shakes out. I saw over 96% of practicing physicians reported to be fully vaccinated as of June and like 88% of nurses. It sounds like most ARE vaccinated from what I’ve been reading.
I agree. I think the vast majority are vaccinated. It was a terrible position to put them in though.
No it's not It's their job. They know the requirements. They want to willingly put people at risk and thats unacceptable. Let them go find new jobs. Let them see that their fringe ideology will only keep them in the minority.
How are they putting people at risk?
Oh good grief.
Answer the question since the vaccine does not stop people from getting or spreading Covid. So how about you answer it since it seems like no one ever does, instead of putting a stupid ass remark. This is why people can’t have a civil conversation around here.
There is no answer so they resort to things like- oh good grief
To make is seem like you are just too stupid to understand.
But in reality- there is no answer.
It is entirely possible for a vaccinated person to be asymptomatic and unknowingly transmit covid. That is correct.
However, an asymptomatic person has a lower viral load and would shed less virus than a symptomatic person. Therefore, while not impossible, they are less likely to transmit the virus than if they were symptomatic. And, research has shown that vaccinated people are more likely to have very mild or asymptomatic cases.
There is no way to eliminate the risk of a vaccinated person transmitting the virus. But vaccination reduces the risk and it’s up to the hospitals to keep the risk of transmission as low as possible.
So if the transmission is so damn low for vaccinated folks, how come my son has to quarantine because a vaccinated student tested positive and exposed him?
Honestly I don’t believe its true that the viral load is so much lower, especially with all the break through cases.
And let’s say this is a 100% accurate. So again a vaccinated employee can still get and transmit Covid to a patient or reversely a non vaccinated patient can give it to a vaccinated medical worker who can give it someone else etc. Again not really providing much protection or stopping the spread.
It’s illogical asinine rules and mandates.
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