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Hofstra26
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Re: Georgia voting law
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I don’t understand why it is not ok to have id to vote but the idea of a vaccine passport is ok. Like you can’t verify that you are who you say you are but it’s ok to have proof that you are fully vaccinated for a virus? I am also not vaccinated but I know many people who are and they had to show id to get it.
It’s an issue that people insist on not believing there is one.
The theory of it is that ID can be and is cost prohibitive and geographically hard for some US citizens to obtain; and therefore would inhibit their constitutional right to vote.
If you live on LI that may be hard to fathom but there are lots of areas of this country where going to get an Gov't ID is not all that easy.
Google India identification. A country with such impoverished areas manages to have this technological advanced system. Yet, we can’t get a photo on a card for our citizens.
ETA, I understand it’s a constitutional right to vote but we must also protect it. With advancements today and the political climate we must make sure that those who are voting are actually who they say they are.
I am not saying that there are ways to enhance voting.
Who says that the current voting system is not working. With the intense time, money and effort that went into finding fraud and having that fraud discounted and proven to not have existed - why do we need to change it now?
You stated that the pandemic brought to light many flaws but I asked what flaws and when have they been proven and held up to scrutiny?
The 2020 election was the most secure election in recent times and that is coming from non partisan groups.
There was no widespread fraud in GA...nothing that would have needed the sweeping legislation that came down other then the Republicans lost power at the Federal level. The flip from Republican to Democrat is what the Republican held state needs to change. They didn't need to rectify voting fraud that did not exist.
Things were brought to light. Like how easy it is to just sign anyone’s name when you go to a voting site.
How anyone can request a ballot for anyone they want and send it in.
There are flaws. Fix it before it’s an issue.
That's all you got? Any proof?
So really, there isn't anything of note, there is still no evidence of rampant fraud and its been proven that we had a secure election.
Anything to the contrary is propaganda.
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Re: Georgia voting law
I don't know but I don't think it should be that hard for a country like the US with all it's money and technology to issue free ID's to everyone.
Like when you're born, you get a birth certificate. Every baby gets a birth certificate regardless of the parent's financial ability right? It's issued by the state and I don't think I've ever heard of anyone who doesn't have one because their parents were too poor.
I'm not even talking about for voting specifically, though that would be great. Just in general. With all the things you need ID to do, there really should be a better system to get everyone a free ID. Regardless of financial means.
It's kind of embarrassing that there is not in this day and age.
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Re: Georgia voting law
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I don't know but I don't think it should be that hard for a country like the US with all it's money and technology to issue free ID's to everyone.
Like when you're born, you get a birth certificate. Every baby gets a birth certificate regardless of the parent's financial ability right? It's issued by the state and I don't think I've ever heard of anyone who doesn't have one because their parents were too poor.
I'm not even talking about for voting specifically, though that would be great. Just in general. With all the things you need ID to do, there really should be a better system to get everyone a free ID. Regardless of financial means.
It's kind of embarrassing that there is not in this day and age.
I agree with you. But I think the problem is if it is going to cost taxpayers one more cent they will be up in arms! I assumed this is the reason why it's never been done, but honestly I never looked into where the money to do this would come from. Something I need to educate myself about.
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Re: Georgia voting law
Call me whatever you want but I think it is absolutely absurd that we don't need to show ID.
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Re: Georgia voting law
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Call me whatever you want but I think it is absolutely absurd that we don't need to show ID.
I think most feel this way and it can be done I am sure.
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Re: Georgia voting law
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Call me whatever you want but I think it is absolutely absurd that we don't need to show ID.
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Hofstra26
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Re: Georgia voting law
Let's be honest. If they issued government ID's for voting then some people would then b!tch that it's not good enough and they would rail on about ballots not being secure. And then if they did away with ballots some would b!tch about the voting booths, or the day, or the time or how they count the votes and on and on. Why? Because some people like to complain about literally everything, especially when their candidate loses, regardless if it's rooted in any fact whatsoever.
Furthermore, this wouldn't be a conversation if it weren't for the tantrum throwing, sore loser, previous president who brainwashed SO many into actually believing that our election system is riddled with rampant fraud and the election was stolen from him.
The election rhetoric is getting so old. Until someone, ANYONE, can furnish clear cut, indisputable evidence that there is so much rampant fraud in our election system that elections are being decided a completely different way because of it then there is really nothing to talk about. It's pointless drama.
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by Hofstra26
Let's be honest. If they issued government ID's for voting then some people would then b!tch that it's not good enough and they would rail on about ballots not being secure. And then if they did away with ballots some would b!tch about the voting booths, or the day, or the time or how they count the votes and on and on. Why? Because some people like to complain about literally everything, especially when their candidate loses, regardless if it's rooted in any fact whatsoever.
Furthermore, this wouldn't be a conversation if it weren't for the tantrum throwing, sore loser, previous president who brainwashed SO many into actually believing that our election system is riddled with rampant fraud and the election was stolen from him.
The election rhetoric is getting so old. Until someone, ANYONE, can furnish clear cut, indisputable evidence that there is so much rampant fraud in our election system that elections are being decided a completely different way because of it then there is really nothing to talk about. It's pointless drama.
Nope. I bitched about the absurdity of it when I lived in another state 10 years ago. It’s been on my radar for a while.
Our government has no problem spending trillions of dollars on absolute horse shit. I’m sure if it was made any kind of priority the money could miraculously be found. And why should we wait for rampant fraud to occur in an election before we mandate IDs?
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Hofstra26
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by RomeyT
Posted by Hofstra26
Let's be honest. If they issued government ID's for voting then some people would then b!tch that it's not good enough and they would rail on about ballots not being secure. And then if they did away with ballots some would b!tch about the voting booths, or the day, or the time or how they count the votes and on and on. Why? Because some people like to complain about literally everything, especially when their candidate loses, regardless if it's rooted in any fact whatsoever.
Furthermore, this wouldn't be a conversation if it weren't for the tantrum throwing, sore loser, previous president who brainwashed SO many into actually believing that our election system is riddled with rampant fraud and the election was stolen from him.
The election rhetoric is getting so old. Until someone, ANYONE, can furnish clear cut, indisputable evidence that there is so much rampant fraud in our election system that elections are being decided a completely different way because of it then there is really nothing to talk about. It's pointless drama.
Nope. I bitched about the absurdity of it when I lived in another state 10 years ago. It’s been on my radar for a while.
Our government has no problem spending trillions of dollars on absolute horse shit. I’m sure if it was made any kind of priority the money could miraculously be found. And why should we wait for rampant fraud to occur in an election before we mandate IDs?
It hasn't been on the radar of the vast majority of this country. MOST people go vote and then don't think about the election beyond that.
There has NEVER been rampant fraud in this country and some stupid little government ID won't protect against that even if some were hell bent on screwing the system. If someone REALLY wanted to mess with our election they would find a way and what career criminal couldn't make a fake ID if needed?
I think people are putting WAY too much stock in what an ID would do in terms of security. It's silly.
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Georgia voting law
Do you agree with MLBs decision to move the all star game from Atlanta in protest of the voting law? Do you disagree with the PGAs decision to keep the masters in Georgia? I wonder how much of the general public is like wow, mlb is moving the all star game, so proud! Let me go to more games! I assume it is about money with mlb.
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by Anotherplease
Do you agree with MLBs decision to move the all star game from Atlanta in protest of the voting law? Do you disagree with the PGAs decision to keep the masters in Georgia? I wonder how much of the general public is like wow, mlb is moving the all star game, so proud! Let me go to more games! I assume it is about money with mlb.
This should enrage people more than requiring ID. Taking jobs away from innocent people all for what? To pander to the “woke” community?
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Hofstra26
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by RomeyT
Posted by Anotherplease
Do you agree with MLBs decision to move the all star game from Atlanta in protest of the voting law? Do you disagree with the PGAs decision to keep the masters in Georgia? I wonder how much of the general public is like wow, mlb is moving the all star game, so proud! Let me go to more games! I assume it is about money with mlb.
This should enrage people more than requiring ID. Taking jobs away from innocent people all for what? To pander to the “woke” community?
What is to be enraged about? If people don't take a stand for the things they believe in then things never change.
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Re: Georgia voting law
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Do you agree with MLBs decision to move the all star game from Atlanta in protest of the voting law? Do you disagree with the PGAs decision to keep the masters in Georgia? I wonder how much of the general public is like wow, mlb is moving the all star game, so proud! Let me go to more games! I assume it is about money with mlb.
This should enrage people more than requiring ID. Taking jobs away from innocent people all for what? To pander to the “woke” community?
What is to be enraged about? If people don't take a stand for the things they believe in then things never change.
So people taking a stand for ID’s is not ok because it won’t make a difference as there might still be fraud?
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Re: Georgia voting law
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Posted by Hofstra26
Let's be honest. If they issued government ID's for voting then some people would then b!tch that it's not good enough and they would rail on about ballots not being secure. And then if they did away with ballots some would b!tch about the voting booths, or the day, or the time or how they count the votes and on and on. Why? Because some people like to complain about literally everything, especially when their candidate loses, regardless if it's rooted in any fact whatsoever.
Furthermore, this wouldn't be a conversation if it weren't for the tantrum throwing, sore loser, previous president who brainwashed SO many into actually believing that our election system is riddled with rampant fraud and the election was stolen from him.
The election rhetoric is getting so old. Until someone, ANYONE, can furnish clear cut, indisputable evidence that there is so much rampant fraud in our election system that elections are being decided a completely different way because of it then there is really nothing to talk about. It's pointless drama.
Nope. I bitched about the absurdity of it when I lived in another state 10 years ago. It’s been on my radar for a while.
Our government has no problem spending trillions of dollars on absolute horse shit. I’m sure if it was made any kind of priority the money could miraculously be found. And why should we wait for rampant fraud to occur in an election before we mandate IDs?
It hasn't been on the radar of the vast majority of this country. MOST people go vote and then don't think about the election beyond that.
There has NEVER been rampant fraud in this country and some stupid little government ID won't protect against that even if some were hell bent on screwing the system. If someone REALLY wanted to mess with our election they would find a way and what career criminal couldn't make a fake ID if needed?
I think people are putting WAY too much stock in what an ID would do in terms of security. It's silly.
I think with this last election it has become something more on people’s radar. More people are getting involved in politics and paying more attention.
It could actually do much more for security as people on this board alone have commented how they could easily commit fraud when voting.
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Hofstra26
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by RomeyT
Posted by Hofstra26
Let's be honest. If they issued government ID's for voting then some people would then b!tch that it's not good enough and they would rail on about ballots not being secure. And then if they did away with ballots some would b!tch about the voting booths, or the day, or the time or how they count the votes and on and on. Why? Because some people like to complain about literally everything, especially when their candidate loses, regardless if it's rooted in any fact whatsoever.
Furthermore, this wouldn't be a conversation if it weren't for the tantrum throwing, sore loser, previous president who brainwashed SO many into actually believing that our election system is riddled with rampant fraud and the election was stolen from him.
The election rhetoric is getting so old. Until someone, ANYONE, can furnish clear cut, indisputable evidence that there is so much rampant fraud in our election system that elections are being decided a completely different way because of it then there is really nothing to talk about. It's pointless drama.
Nope. I bitched about the absurdity of it when I lived in another state 10 years ago. It’s been on my radar for a while.
Our government has no problem spending trillions of dollars on absolute horse shit. I’m sure if it was made any kind of priority the money could miraculously be found. And why should we wait for rampant fraud to occur in an election before we mandate IDs?
It hasn't been on the radar of the vast majority of this country. MOST people go vote and then don't think about the election beyond that.
There has NEVER been rampant fraud in this country and some stupid little government ID won't protect against that even if some were hell bent on screwing the system. If someone REALLY wanted to mess with our election they would find a way and what career criminal couldn't make a fake ID if needed?
I think people are putting WAY too much stock in what an ID would do in terms of security. It's silly.
I think with this last election it has become something more on people’s radar. More people are getting involved in politics and paying more attention.
It could actually do much more for security as people on this board alone have commented how they could easily commit fraud when voting.
Because in the last election the endless conspiracy theories and propaganda surrounding the election were being rammed down everyone's throat on a daily basis by an unhinged president who couldn't accept reality. Had he lost gracefully and acted like an adult, none of this crap would be on the radar. It's manufactured outrage.
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by RomeyT
Posted by Hofstra26
Let's be honest. If they issued government ID's for voting then some people would then b!tch that it's not good enough and they would rail on about ballots not being secure. And then if they did away with ballots some would b!tch about the voting booths, or the day, or the time or how they count the votes and on and on. Why? Because some people like to complain about literally everything, especially when their candidate loses, regardless if it's rooted in any fact whatsoever.
Furthermore, this wouldn't be a conversation if it weren't for the tantrum throwing, sore loser, previous president who brainwashed SO many into actually believing that our election system is riddled with rampant fraud and the election was stolen from him.
The election rhetoric is getting so old. Until someone, ANYONE, can furnish clear cut, indisputable evidence that there is so much rampant fraud in our election system that elections are being decided a completely different way because of it then there is really nothing to talk about. It's pointless drama.
Nope. I bitched about the absurdity of it when I lived in another state 10 years ago. It’s been on my radar for a while.
Our government has no problem spending trillions of dollars on absolute horse shit. I’m sure if it was made any kind of priority the money could miraculously be found. And why should we wait for rampant fraud to occur in an election before we mandate IDs?
It hasn't been on the radar of the vast majority of this country. MOST people go vote and then don't think about the election beyond that.
There has NEVER been rampant fraud in this country and some stupid little government ID won't protect against that even if some were hell bent on screwing the system. If someone REALLY wanted to mess with our election they would find a way and what career criminal couldn't make a fake ID if needed?
I think people are putting WAY too much stock in what an ID would do in terms of security. It's silly.
I think with this last election it has become something more on people’s radar. More people are getting involved in politics and paying more attention.
It could actually do much more for security as people on this board alone have commented how they could easily commit fraud when voting.
I’ve had this on my radar since I turned 18 and showed up with my ID to vote and they told me to just sign and I was terrified that my signature wouldn’t match and I’d be embarrassed in front of everyone in line.....end result....they didn’t even look at my shaky signature!
It’s harder to make multiple fake id’s compared to randomly signing for people or requesting ballots for people.
I mean, we’re all about correcting things that have been done certain ways since the beginning of time these days but we can’t correct this? We can’t be bothered by this because you don’t agree? We have different opinions and I think ID should be required. I’m not going to argue back and forth.
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LittleDiva
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by RomeyT
Posted by Hofstra26
Let's be honest. If they issued government ID's for voting then some people would then b!tch that it's not good enough and they would rail on about ballots not being secure. And then if they did away with ballots some would b!tch about the voting booths, or the day, or the time or how they count the votes and on and on. Why? Because some people like to complain about literally everything, especially when their candidate loses, regardless if it's rooted in any fact whatsoever.
Furthermore, this wouldn't be a conversation if it weren't for the tantrum throwing, sore loser, previous president who brainwashed SO many into actually believing that our election system is riddled with rampant fraud and the election was stolen from him.
The election rhetoric is getting so old. Until someone, ANYONE, can furnish clear cut, indisputable evidence that there is so much rampant fraud in our election system that elections are being decided a completely different way because of it then there is really nothing to talk about. It's pointless drama.
Nope. I bitched about the absurdity of it when I lived in another state 10 years ago. It’s been on my radar for a while.
Our government has no problem spending trillions of dollars on absolute horse shit. I’m sure if it was made any kind of priority the money could miraculously be found. And why should we wait for rampant fraud to occur in an election before we mandate IDs?
It hasn't been on the radar of the vast majority of this country. MOST people go vote and then don't think about the election beyond that.
There has NEVER been rampant fraud in this country and some stupid little government ID won't protect against that even if some were hell bent on screwing the system. If someone REALLY wanted to mess with our election they would find a way and what career criminal couldn't make a fake ID if needed?
I think people are putting WAY too much stock in what an ID would do in terms of security. It's silly.
I think with this last election it has become something more on people’s radar. More people are getting involved in politics and paying more attention.
It could actually do much more for security as people on this board alone have commented how they could easily commit fraud when voting.
Because in the last election the endless conspiracy theories and propaganda surrounding the election were being rammed down everyone's throat on a daily basis by an unhinged president who couldn't accept reality. Had he lost gracefully and acted like an adult, none of this crap would be on the radar. It's manufactured outrage.
Manufactured outrage.....hmmmm....seen that a lot recently from the other side too. More. You are all just louder and more violent. Crying and cancelling till you get your way.
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Hofstra26
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by RomeyT
Posted by Hofstra26
Let's be honest. If they issued government ID's for voting then some people would then b!tch that it's not good enough and they would rail on about ballots not being secure. And then if they did away with ballots some would b!tch about the voting booths, or the day, or the time or how they count the votes and on and on. Why? Because some people like to complain about literally everything, especially when their candidate loses, regardless if it's rooted in any fact whatsoever.
Furthermore, this wouldn't be a conversation if it weren't for the tantrum throwing, sore loser, previous president who brainwashed SO many into actually believing that our election system is riddled with rampant fraud and the election was stolen from him.
The election rhetoric is getting so old. Until someone, ANYONE, can furnish clear cut, indisputable evidence that there is so much rampant fraud in our election system that elections are being decided a completely different way because of it then there is really nothing to talk about. It's pointless drama.
Nope. I bitched about the absurdity of it when I lived in another state 10 years ago. It’s been on my radar for a while.
Our government has no problem spending trillions of dollars on absolute horse shit. I’m sure if it was made any kind of priority the money could miraculously be found. And why should we wait for rampant fraud to occur in an election before we mandate IDs?
It hasn't been on the radar of the vast majority of this country. MOST people go vote and then don't think about the election beyond that.
There has NEVER been rampant fraud in this country and some stupid little government ID won't protect against that even if some were hell bent on screwing the system. If someone REALLY wanted to mess with our election they would find a way and what career criminal couldn't make a fake ID if needed?
I think people are putting WAY too much stock in what an ID would do in terms of security. It's silly.
I think with this last election it has become something more on people’s radar. More people are getting involved in politics and paying more attention.
It could actually do much more for security as people on this board alone have commented how they could easily commit fraud when voting.
I’ve had this on my radar since I turned 18 and showed up with my ID to vote and they told me to just sign and I was terrified that my signature wouldn’t match and I’d be embarrassed in front of everyone in line.....end result....they didn’t even look at my shaky signature!
It’s harder to make multiple fake id’s compared to randomly signing for people or requesting ballots for people.
I mean, we’re all about correcting things that have been done certain ways since the beginning of time these days but we can’t correct this? We can’t be bothered by this because you don’t agree? We have different opinions and I think ID should be required. I’m not going to argue back and forth.
So let me get this straight. You are all for change when it's what YOU want, such as voter ID. But when the change involves measures to make voting easier for everyone, such as mail in ballots, then you're outraged and want things to stay the same. Ok cool, got it.
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by RomeyT
Posted by Hofstra26
Let's be honest. If they issued government ID's for voting then some people would then b!tch that it's not good enough and they would rail on about ballots not being secure. And then if they did away with ballots some would b!tch about the voting booths, or the day, or the time or how they count the votes and on and on. Why? Because some people like to complain about literally everything, especially when their candidate loses, regardless if it's rooted in any fact whatsoever.
Furthermore, this wouldn't be a conversation if it weren't for the tantrum throwing, sore loser, previous president who brainwashed SO many into actually believing that our election system is riddled with rampant fraud and the election was stolen from him.
The election rhetoric is getting so old. Until someone, ANYONE, can furnish clear cut, indisputable evidence that there is so much rampant fraud in our election system that elections are being decided a completely different way because of it then there is really nothing to talk about. It's pointless drama.
Nope. I bitched about the absurdity of it when I lived in another state 10 years ago. It’s been on my radar for a while.
Our government has no problem spending trillions of dollars on absolute horse shit. I’m sure if it was made any kind of priority the money could miraculously be found. And why should we wait for rampant fraud to occur in an election before we mandate IDs?
It hasn't been on the radar of the vast majority of this country. MOST people go vote and then don't think about the election beyond that.
There has NEVER been rampant fraud in this country and some stupid little government ID won't protect against that even if some were hell bent on screwing the system. If someone REALLY wanted to mess with our election they would find a way and what career criminal couldn't make a fake ID if needed?
I think people are putting WAY too much stock in what an ID would do in terms of security. It's silly.
I think with this last election it has become something more on people’s radar. More people are getting involved in politics and paying more attention.
It could actually do much more for security as people on this board alone have commented how they could easily commit fraud when voting.
Because in the last election the endless conspiracy theories and propaganda surrounding the election were being rammed down everyone's throat on a daily basis by an unhinged president who couldn't accept reality. Had he lost gracefully and acted like an adult, none of this crap would be on the radar. It's manufactured outrage.
Again nothing can be rammed down your throat unless you allow it to. Many paid attention on their own and made their own opinions.
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by RomeyT
Posted by Hofstra26
Let's be honest. If they issued government ID's for voting then some people would then b!tch that it's not good enough and they would rail on about ballots not being secure. And then if they did away with ballots some would b!tch about the voting booths, or the day, or the time or how they count the votes and on and on. Why? Because some people like to complain about literally everything, especially when their candidate loses, regardless if it's rooted in any fact whatsoever.
Furthermore, this wouldn't be a conversation if it weren't for the tantrum throwing, sore loser, previous president who brainwashed SO many into actually believing that our election system is riddled with rampant fraud and the election was stolen from him.
The election rhetoric is getting so old. Until someone, ANYONE, can furnish clear cut, indisputable evidence that there is so much rampant fraud in our election system that elections are being decided a completely different way because of it then there is really nothing to talk about. It's pointless drama.
Nope. I bitched about the absurdity of it when I lived in another state 10 years ago. It’s been on my radar for a while.
Our government has no problem spending trillions of dollars on absolute horse shit. I’m sure if it was made any kind of priority the money could miraculously be found. And why should we wait for rampant fraud to occur in an election before we mandate IDs?
It hasn't been on the radar of the vast majority of this country. MOST people go vote and then don't think about the election beyond that.
There has NEVER been rampant fraud in this country and some stupid little government ID won't protect against that even if some were hell bent on screwing the system. If someone REALLY wanted to mess with our election they would find a way and what career criminal couldn't make a fake ID if needed?
I think people are putting WAY too much stock in what an ID would do in terms of security. It's silly.
I think with this last election it has become something more on people’s radar. More people are getting involved in politics and paying more attention.
It could actually do much more for security as people on this board alone have commented how they could easily commit fraud when voting.
Because in the last election the endless conspiracy theories and propaganda surrounding the election were being rammed down everyone's throat on a daily basis by an unhinged president who couldn't accept reality. Had he lost gracefully and acted like an adult, none of this crap would be on the radar. It's manufactured outrage.
Again nothing can be rammed down your throat unless you allow it to. Many paid attention on their own and made their own opinions.
LOLOL Ok.
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by RomeyT
Posted by Hofstra26
Let's be honest. If they issued government ID's for voting then some people would then b!tch that it's not good enough and they would rail on about ballots not being secure. And then if they did away with ballots some would b!tch about the voting booths, or the day, or the time or how they count the votes and on and on. Why? Because some people like to complain about literally everything, especially when their candidate loses, regardless if it's rooted in any fact whatsoever.
Furthermore, this wouldn't be a conversation if it weren't for the tantrum throwing, sore loser, previous president who brainwashed SO many into actually believing that our election system is riddled with rampant fraud and the election was stolen from him.
The election rhetoric is getting so old. Until someone, ANYONE, can furnish clear cut, indisputable evidence that there is so much rampant fraud in our election system that elections are being decided a completely different way because of it then there is really nothing to talk about. It's pointless drama.
Nope. I bitched about the absurdity of it when I lived in another state 10 years ago. It’s been on my radar for a while.
Our government has no problem spending trillions of dollars on absolute horse shit. I’m sure if it was made any kind of priority the money could miraculously be found. And why should we wait for rampant fraud to occur in an election before we mandate IDs?
It hasn't been on the radar of the vast majority of this country. MOST people go vote and then don't think about the election beyond that.
There has NEVER been rampant fraud in this country and some stupid little government ID won't protect against that even if some were hell bent on screwing the system. If someone REALLY wanted to mess with our election they would find a way and what career criminal couldn't make a fake ID if needed?
I think people are putting WAY too much stock in what an ID would do in terms of security. It's silly.
I think with this last election it has become something more on people’s radar. More people are getting involved in politics and paying more attention.
It could actually do much more for security as people on this board alone have commented how they could easily commit fraud when voting.
Because in the last election the endless conspiracy theories and propaganda surrounding the election were being rammed down everyone's throat on a daily basis by an unhinged president who couldn't accept reality. Had he lost gracefully and acted like an adult, none of this crap would be on the radar. It's manufactured outrage.
Again nothing can be rammed down your throat unless you allow it to. Many paid attention on their own and made their own opinions.
LOLOL Ok.
Once again you (in general) are the only person that can decide how much of news you intake.
It is your (in general) fault if you continue to seek out things that annoy you and feel are being rammed down your throat.
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| Posted 4/4/21 11:11 PM |
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Hofstra26
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by RomeyT
Posted by Hofstra26
Let's be honest. If they issued government ID's for voting then some people would then b!tch that it's not good enough and they would rail on about ballots not being secure. And then if they did away with ballots some would b!tch about the voting booths, or the day, or the time or how they count the votes and on and on. Why? Because some people like to complain about literally everything, especially when their candidate loses, regardless if it's rooted in any fact whatsoever.
Furthermore, this wouldn't be a conversation if it weren't for the tantrum throwing, sore loser, previous president who brainwashed SO many into actually believing that our election system is riddled with rampant fraud and the election was stolen from him.
The election rhetoric is getting so old. Until someone, ANYONE, can furnish clear cut, indisputable evidence that there is so much rampant fraud in our election system that elections are being decided a completely different way because of it then there is really nothing to talk about. It's pointless drama.
Nope. I bitched about the absurdity of it when I lived in another state 10 years ago. It’s been on my radar for a while.
Our government has no problem spending trillions of dollars on absolute horse shit. I’m sure if it was made any kind of priority the money could miraculously be found. And why should we wait for rampant fraud to occur in an election before we mandate IDs?
It hasn't been on the radar of the vast majority of this country. MOST people go vote and then don't think about the election beyond that.
There has NEVER been rampant fraud in this country and some stupid little government ID won't protect against that even if some were hell bent on screwing the system. If someone REALLY wanted to mess with our election they would find a way and what career criminal couldn't make a fake ID if needed?
I think people are putting WAY too much stock in what an ID would do in terms of security. It's silly.
I think with this last election it has become something more on people’s radar. More people are getting involved in politics and paying more attention.
It could actually do much more for security as people on this board alone have commented how they could easily commit fraud when voting.
Because in the last election the endless conspiracy theories and propaganda surrounding the election were being rammed down everyone's throat on a daily basis by an unhinged president who couldn't accept reality. Had he lost gracefully and acted like an adult, none of this crap would be on the radar. It's manufactured outrage.
Again nothing can be rammed down your throat unless you allow it to. Many paid attention on their own and made their own opinions.
LOLOL Ok.
Once again you (in general) are the only person that can decide how much of news you intake.
It is your (in general) fault if you continue to seek out things that annoy you and feel are being rammed down your throat.
It's not that simplistic. You clearly have very little understanding of human psychology and how easily people can be manipulated even without them being cognizant of it.
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by RomeyT
Posted by Hofstra26
Let's be honest. If they issued government ID's for voting then some people would then b!tch that it's not good enough and they would rail on about ballots not being secure. And then if they did away with ballots some would b!tch about the voting booths, or the day, or the time or how they count the votes and on and on. Why? Because some people like to complain about literally everything, especially when their candidate loses, regardless if it's rooted in any fact whatsoever.
Furthermore, this wouldn't be a conversation if it weren't for the tantrum throwing, sore loser, previous president who brainwashed SO many into actually believing that our election system is riddled with rampant fraud and the election was stolen from him.
The election rhetoric is getting so old. Until someone, ANYONE, can furnish clear cut, indisputable evidence that there is so much rampant fraud in our election system that elections are being decided a completely different way because of it then there is really nothing to talk about. It's pointless drama.
Nope. I bitched about the absurdity of it when I lived in another state 10 years ago. It’s been on my radar for a while.
Our government has no problem spending trillions of dollars on absolute horse shit. I’m sure if it was made any kind of priority the money could miraculously be found. And why should we wait for rampant fraud to occur in an election before we mandate IDs?
It hasn't been on the radar of the vast majority of this country. MOST people go vote and then don't think about the election beyond that.
There has NEVER been rampant fraud in this country and some stupid little government ID won't protect against that even if some were hell bent on screwing the system. If someone REALLY wanted to mess with our election they would find a way and what career criminal couldn't make a fake ID if needed?
I think people are putting WAY too much stock in what an ID would do in terms of security. It's silly.
I think with this last election it has become something more on people’s radar. More people are getting involved in politics and paying more attention.
It could actually do much more for security as people on this board alone have commented how they could easily commit fraud when voting.
Because in the last election the endless conspiracy theories and propaganda surrounding the election were being rammed down everyone's throat on a daily basis by an unhinged president who couldn't accept reality. Had he lost gracefully and acted like an adult, none of this crap would be on the radar. It's manufactured outrage.
Again nothing can be rammed down your throat unless you allow it to. Many paid attention on their own and made their own opinions.
LOLOL Ok.
Once again you (in general) are the only person that can decide how much of news you intake.
It is your (in general) fault if you continue to seek out things that annoy you and feel are being rammed down your throat.
It's not that simplistic. You clearly have very little understanding of human psychology and how easily people can be manipulated even without them being cognizant of it.
Oh I am well aware of that.
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| Posted 4/4/21 11:22 PM |
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JennP
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Re: Georgia voting law
Since the switch in party platforms drew to its completion in the 1970s, Republicans have been working diligently to suppress the vote. This law was written with surgical precision to target Dem leaning voters.
Without voter suppression, they'll never win another presidential election again. The numbers aren't there.
They must do this to maintain power, which is all they care about.
There are many examples beyond this one (backlash to the Motor Voter law for instance) but this one is particularly blatant.
I didn't read every post so I don't know if it's been mentioned but the most egregious part of the law which doesn't get the press it should is the fact that the Georgia Legislature effectively has the power to overturn the will of the people and decide national elections (not sure about state but I would assume them too.) Basically, it takes power from the SOS.
If they could put the amount of energy they put into suppressing the vote into trying to figure out how to actually serve the people they might get some votes back.
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LittleDiva
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by RomeyT
Posted by Hofstra26
Let's be honest. If they issued government ID's for voting then some people would then b!tch that it's not good enough and they would rail on about ballots not being secure. And then if they did away with ballots some would b!tch about the voting booths, or the day, or the time or how they count the votes and on and on. Why? Because some people like to complain about literally everything, especially when their candidate loses, regardless if it's rooted in any fact whatsoever.
Furthermore, this wouldn't be a conversation if it weren't for the tantrum throwing, sore loser, previous president who brainwashed SO many into actually believing that our election system is riddled with rampant fraud and the election was stolen from him.
The election rhetoric is getting so old. Until someone, ANYONE, can furnish clear cut, indisputable evidence that there is so much rampant fraud in our election system that elections are being decided a completely different way because of it then there is really nothing to talk about. It's pointless drama.
Nope. I bitched about the absurdity of it when I lived in another state 10 years ago. It’s been on my radar for a while.
Our government has no problem spending trillions of dollars on absolute horse shit. I’m sure if it was made any kind of priority the money could miraculously be found. And why should we wait for rampant fraud to occur in an election before we mandate IDs?
It hasn't been on the radar of the vast majority of this country. MOST people go vote and then don't think about the election beyond that.
There has NEVER been rampant fraud in this country and some stupid little government ID won't protect against that even if some were hell bent on screwing the system. If someone REALLY wanted to mess with our election they would find a way and what career criminal couldn't make a fake ID if needed?
I think people are putting WAY too much stock in what an ID would do in terms of security. It's silly.
I think with this last election it has become something more on people’s radar. More people are getting involved in politics and paying more attention.
It could actually do much more for security as people on this board alone have commented how they could easily commit fraud when voting.
I’ve had this on my radar since I turned 18 and showed up with my ID to vote and they told me to just sign and I was terrified that my signature wouldn’t match and I’d be embarrassed in front of everyone in line.....end result....they didn’t even look at my shaky signature!
It’s harder to make multiple fake id’s compared to randomly signing for people or requesting ballots for people.
I mean, we’re all about correcting things that have been done certain ways since the beginning of time these days but we can’t correct this? We can’t be bothered by this because you don’t agree? We have different opinions and I think ID should be required. I’m not going to argue back and forth.
So let me get this straight. You are all for change when it's what YOU want, such as voter ID. But when the change involves measures to make voting easier for everyone, such as mail in ballots, then you're outraged and want things to stay the same. Ok cool, got it.
I never said I’m against mail in ballots???
I’m for it being done WHEN NEEDED. There is no reason a perfectly fine human being can’t walk themselves to a polling place. There are people who fit the criteria and that’s fine. But able bodied people shouldn’t be mailing on ballots. Personally, I wouldn’t trust my vote actually getting where it needs to get in time.
I am bothered, not outraged, by randomly mailing absentee ballots when the individual doesn’t request them. That makes zero sense. ETA that this also creates issues with more local elections that are too close to call. If you have everyone being mailed ballots and members in the household or family members completing them for people who have no intention of voting this adds up! Get out and vote!
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