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SweetTooth
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Fast Food and Kids

I was talking to my mom the other day and she told me that when me and my brother were kids she used to take us to McDonalds pretty often - like a few times a month - maybe once a week, she couldn't remember specifically. I was in shock because of all the negativity associated with fast food (rightfully so). She was actually surprised herself at how often we went because she never goes now that we are grown, but she said it was our special lunch when we were kids. We also had soda pretty often as kids, and my mom always had snack foods in the house we would eat when we came home from school.
Now my thought is this - my brother and I were both skinny little things and both of us are very healthy now as adults, so obviously eating McDonalds as kids didn't hurt us. So to blame fast food for the health problems of kids today is to give blame to a very small part of the problem.

After we came home from McDonalds we were running around outside or riding our bikes, or some other kind of activity. This leads me to believe that the fact that kids are not getting enough physical activity is more of a problem than the foods they are eating.
Am I alone in this? I don't see evil in letting kids eat chicken nuggets a few times a month if they are running and playing when they are home - not sitting in front of the tv or playing video games.

Sometimes I lurk on the parenting board and a majority of the moms shun fast food, soda, and all that as the devil itself, which makes me wonder if my mom was a "bad" mom for letting us eat "bad" stuff. But the fact that me and my brother are so happy and healthy now (and were as kids too) makes me know that this is nowhere near the truth.

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Re: Fast Food and Kids

Posted by SweetTooth



Sometimes I lurk on the parenting board and a majority of the moms shun fast food, soda, and all that as the devil itself, which makes me wonder if my mom was a "bad" mom for letting us eat "bad" stuff. But the fact that me and my brother are so happy and healthy now (and were as kids too) makes me know that this is nowhere near the truth.



My dd has had fast food a few times. I do not see the harm in giving it to them once in a while....most of the time though, I use fruit as her sweets and she loves it. I agree with you though, as a kid we were ALWAYS running around outside so we were almways skinny too

Posted 6/9/08 9:53 AM
 

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Re: Fast Food and Kids

I ate it a lot as a kid too. And all my childhood I was so underweight that I actually had to see a nutritionist at one point to try and GAIN weight.
So obviously it didn't affect my sister or I in that way.
Genetics has a lot to do with it too.

It doesn't mean your mom or my mom were "bad" moms- back then things were much different. They didn't know then what we know now.
Back when my mom was preggo with me in the 70's her Dr told her it was ok to drink- just don't drink so much that you fall down- cause you could hurt the baby. Chat Icon Can you imagine?

It was just a different time!

Posted 6/9/08 9:55 AM
 

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Re: Fast Food and Kids

Everything in moderation...

Posted 6/9/08 9:55 AM
 

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Re: Fast Food and Kids

No, you are not alone in this at all! Chat Icon I think that what children eat are only PART of the cause of why so many end up obese. There's nothing wrong with getting your kids McD's (they already know those darn arches and call out for it when they see it), but so long as it's not what they are eating 24/7 and that it's being coupled with regular exercise, then it's just fine.

If you look at some of those stories where the child is obese and the parent is blaming any fast food restaurant, take a look at the parents, 99% of the time, they aren't so healthy themselves.

I believe that children follow by example and they mimic what their parents do. if all mom/dad do is sit and watch tv all day and eat junk, then so will their child.

Just my opinion.

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Posted 6/9/08 9:56 AM
 

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Re: Fast Food and Kids

DS has had chicken nuggets from McDs. His favorite thing from there is the yogurt. He loves the fruit that's in it.
When and if we get him a kids meal, we don't get him the fries, we get him the apple dippers (I don't open the "dip" though) he just eats the apple.
It's a treat once in a while.

Posted 6/9/08 9:57 AM
 

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I don't think the problem is just that fast food is junk, it's also the frequency that people eat it, and the portion sizes that have increased dramatically over the years.

I read in the Times a while ago that kids eat fast food twice a day- not twice a month. When fast food places got started, a regular meal was the size of today's kid's meals. Chat Icon

Seems to be a combination of things instead of any one cause.

Posted 6/9/08 10:01 AM
 

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Re: Fast Food and Kids

I think the problem is a little more complex than that. First, I agree, I dont think kids are getting enough activity. When I was a kid, we came home from school and spent the rest of the day running outside with our friends, playing tag, walking to town together, riding our bicycles etc.

We live in an era of more fear now though - I cannot imagine letting my daughter roam around the neighborhood the way I used to - it's a different world and I fear for her safety. Instead, in our family, we focus on doing activities together as a family - when we get home, we ride our bikes, take a walk, etc. The problem is that, for many families, this is all but impossible, with two full-time working parents. And what ends up happening too often is kids stay inside, using all their cool, new technological gadgets, instead of running around outside.

As for food, no fast food isn't the only culprit. But you have to remember, back when we were kids, even if we ate fast food often, the rest of our diet was fairly wholesome. So many of these highly processed, high fructose products that we eat now on a consistent basis, just weren't available when we were kids. So, now, kids are eating a lot of fast food, and on top of that, the stuff they get from the supermarket is also contributing to weight gain.

Last, I read a really interesting article last week about the importance of eating a family dinner, together, every night and how statistics show that just doing that makes a SERIOUS impact on your children's health, mental and physical. I am generalizing now, and I know this doesn't apply to MANY of the parents on here, but the truth is we live in a fast paced world right now, where it's difficult to allocate that time at the end of the day for everyone to sit together and eat a wholesome, freshly cooked meal together.

I think it's a combination of all the factors together that's making a dramatic impact on our health as a society.

Posted 6/9/08 10:07 AM
 

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Re: Fast Food and Kids

Posted by racheeeee

Everything in moderation...



ITA also years ago I don't think that people realized how bad fast food is for you.....I think if you don't eat it everyday or even every week then it can't hurt you too much especially if you are active.......Soda on the other hand I don't drink myself, so I do not plan on having it in the house when I have children

Posted 6/9/08 10:08 AM
 

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Re: Fast Food and Kids

Posted by Bxgell2

I think the problem is a little more complex than that. First, I agree, I dont think kids are getting enough activity. When I was a kid, we came home from school and spent the rest of the day running outside with our friends, playing tag, walking to town together, riding our bicycles etc.

We live in an era of more fear now though - I cannot imagine letting my daughter roam around the neighborhood the way I used to - it's a different world and I fear for her safety. Instead, in our family, we focus on doing activities together as a family - when we get home, we ride our bikes, take a walk, etc. The problem is that, for many families, this is all but impossible, with two full-time working parents. And what ends up happening too often is kids stay inside, using all their cool, new technological gadgets, instead of running around outside.

As for food, no fast food isn't the only culprit. But you have to remember, back when we were kids, even if we ate fast food often, the rest of our diet was fairly wholesome. So many of these highly processed, high fructose products that we eat now on a consistent basis, just weren't available when we were kids. So, now, kids are eating a lot of fast food, and on top of that, the stuff they get from the supermarket is also contributing to weight gain.

Last, I read a really interesting article last week about the importance of eating a family dinner, together, every night and how statistics show that just doing that makes a SERIOUS impact on your children's health, mental and physical. I am generalizing now, and I know this doesn't apply to MANY of the parents on here, but the truth is we live in a fast paced world right now, where it's difficult to allocate that time at the end of the day for everyone to sit together and eat a wholesome, freshly cooked meal together.

I think it's a combination of all the factors together that's making a dramatic impact on our health as a society.



You have some very interesting points here that I didn't think of. We always ate dinner as a family and almost always had a home cooked meal.

Also your point about fearing the safety of your children is interesting. In my neighborhood I see kids out riding their bikes and playing out in their yards, is this not the norm anymore? (for safety reasons)

Posted 6/9/08 10:24 AM
 

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Re: Fast Food and Kids

Posted by SweetTooth
Also your point about fearing the safety of your children is interesting. In my neighborhood I see kids out riding their bikes and playing out in their yards, is this not the norm anymore? (for safety reasons)



I think the media has scared so many of us into thinking that if we leave our child unattended, they'll be snatched up in a heartbeat. I suppose it depends on the parents, and on the neighborhood. I do know that anytime our family from Israel visits they are just SHOCKED at how uncommon it is to see kids outside running around, on their bikes or at the playground after school and on the weekends.

Again, it's a generalization, and it really depends on the neighborhood, but I'd venture out on the ledge here by saying I bet that even in the neighborhoods where kids are running around outside, it's not nearly as prevalent as it was when we were growing up.

Posted 6/9/08 10:28 AM
 

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Re: Fast Food and Kids

I agree with just about everything said by Beth.

By today's standards, my own mother would be considered neglectful and would likely be reported to Child Protective Services. I sat in the front seat before I was 10, I don't think I ever had a booster seat at all! I rarely wore sun block and wound up brown as a berry all summer. I stalked our neighborhood on my bike or rollerskates with my friends from early in the morning until dusk - coming home only when I needed food. My mother used young teens - 13 years old or so - to babysit me when I was little. I walked to the bus stop alone. When my mom worked briefly in the 70's I was latch key - came home, did my homework and ate whatever snack was left for me in the fridge and watched 3pm cartoons until my mom or sisters returned.

Would I let my kids leave the life I led? No - but that makes me a little sad because my childhood was fantastic. I was healthy and happy and independent. Sometimes I feel like my chronic fear of SOMETHING - ANYTHING happening makes me stifle my boys a little too much. Sometimes I feel like my list of No's is way longer than my list of Yes's and Maybe's.

But - it is a different world.

Also I completely agree that it is more inactivity than fast food that has caused the obesity epidemic. Kids spend hours glued to a television watching cartoons on the 24/7 cartoon network or playing video games or sitting on a computer - instead of playing outside. Parents are afraid to have their kids in the backyard playing on the swingset while they are inside cleaning, cooking or doing what they need to do - so the easy solution is to give them a lot of sedentary activities - puzzles, tv, computer, board games.

*sigh*

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Posted 6/9/08 10:29 AM
 

SweetTooth
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Re: Fast Food and Kids

Posted by Bxgell2

Posted by SweetTooth
Also your point about fearing the safety of your children is interesting. In my neighborhood I see kids out riding their bikes and playing out in their yards, is this not the norm anymore? (for safety reasons)



I think the media has scared so many of us into thinking that if we leave our child unattended, they'll be snatched up in a heartbeat. I suppose it depends on the parents, and on the neighborhood. I do know that anytime our family from Israel visits they are just SHOCKED at how uncommon it is to see kids outside running around, on their bikes or at the playground after school and on the weekends.

Again, it's a generalization, and it really depends on the neighborhood, but I'd venture out on the ledge here by saying I bet that even in the neighborhoods where kids are running around outside, it's not nearly as prevalent as it was when we were growing up.




I totally agree. I remember riding my bike with a huge group of kids from the neigborhood when I was probably no more than 10. I definitely see none of that anymore.

Posted 6/9/08 10:30 AM
 

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Re: Fast Food and Kids

Posted by Bxgell2

As for food, no fast food isn't the only culprit. But you have to remember, back when we were kids, even if we ate fast food often, the rest of our diet was fairly wholesome. So many of these highly processed, high fructose products that we eat now on a consistent basis, just weren't available when we were kids. So, now, kids are eating a lot of fast food, and on top of that, the stuff they get from the supermarket is also contributing to weight gain.

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this is exactly my feeling. Back in the day, to get fast food...okay 1 processed meal that week isn't so bad, everything else that week was home cooked without so many perservatives and sweetners.

Now, its a different story.

Kids aren't out as much at all. Yesterday I sat at a kiddie pool with my friend and her daughter and it was empty. Just us...on a sunday afternoon. weird.

I believe its a combo of both. Parks and running around is necessary. Its not happening. Eating right is necessary, also not happening.

Saturday, went to the park at 5:30. Stayed for an hour(also empty, me, my same friend, and another dad). went to Trader Joes afterwards with my sweaty, sandy kid.

Two different people commented on how hot he looked.Chat Icon Its the first week of June!! What am I going to do till Sept? People are AC crazy. Its the heat, stay hydrated, sunscreened and it will be okay.

Posted 6/9/08 10:32 AM
 

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Re: Fast Food and Kids

Everything in moderation. I grew up with fast food as a treat and there was always junk in my house-but no soda. I was also outside every minute of sunlight all the time. I'm not chunky, i was never fat, and up until age 13 i was in slim jeans.

My girls have fast food, i said i would never do it, but when you have a toddler who is underweight and hardly eats and is superpicky, if it's french fries she wants when we're out shopping, it's french fries she gets.

Kids aren't outside anymore, they're watching tv, playing video games and parents are healthy anymore either.

We can't blame the kids for the obesity epidemic in this country, i blame the adults and the parents of these kids. The fast food industry is not to blame, it's taking responsibility for your own hand to mouth action you take while you shovel french fries and a baconator into your mouth and taking responsibility for not getting out and exercising, or making your kids get out and exercise. Hell go out and play with your kids!

If my child grows up obese, it's my fault for not teaching them how to eat healthy, get exercise and how to make healthy choices with everything in moderation.

One thing i always had as a child and will always have in our house Dinner as a family-my girls can be 25 and live in my house still they will have dinner with us as a family. Dh as a kid and teenager no matter what 6 nights out of the week had to come home for dinner, no matter what he was doing.

Sometimes we all just have to put the blackberries away, come home, cook dinner, take a walk or go to the park with our kids and SLOW down.




Posted 6/9/08 10:48 AM
 

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Re: Fast Food and Kids

Posted by racheeeee

Everything in moderation...



I couldn't agree more.

My Mom took me to McDonald's as a treat if I scored well on a report card, but I was always running around outside after school or even at school. I'm not fat (although I do have moments!) and currently DH and I only eat fast food if we're taking a road trip upstate or on vacation, and we need to eat in the car.

Posted 6/9/08 10:49 AM
 

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Posted by LuvMy2Girls
We can't blame the kids for the obesity epidemic in this country, i blame the adults and the parents of these kids. The fast food industry is not to blame, it's taking responsibility for your own hand to mouth action you take while you shovel french fries and a baconator into your mouth and taking responsibility for not getting out and exercising, or making your kids get out and exercise. Hell go out and play with your kids!



I COMPLETELY agree. We're such a fast paced society caught up in work and just becoming SO sedentary. The one thing that is a given is that habits start early, and your children mimic EVERYTHING you do. Alex wants to eat everything I eat, and do everything I do.

So now, when she actually ASKS to eat salad and hummus for lunch, and to exercise with mommy as a treat, I am just so unbelievably happy that those wonderful habits are starting really early with her Chat Icon

Posted 6/9/08 10:53 AM
 

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There are are so many factors at play that can explain why this is happening.
Blame television, video games and now computers!

TV isnt just mindnumbing but it feeds our kids with tons of commercials touting the latest toys and processed snacks and drinks!

How often have you gone into a grocery store and see kids demanding their mother buy them this candy or that latest processed snack fad?

And how many of you know kids who can spend countless hours in front of the the computer downloading the latest Itune, updating their Facebook page or Im-ing their friends?

This is what our society is becoming because we feel as long as they're inside the house where we can keep an eye on them, it's fine!

Posted 6/9/08 10:57 AM
 

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Re: Fast Food and Kids

Posted by LuvMy2Girls




We can't blame the kids for the obesity epidemic in this country, i blame the adults and the parents of these kids. The fast food industry is not to blame, it's taking responsibility for your own hand to mouth action you take while you shovel french fries and a baconator into your mouth and taking responsibility for not getting out and exercising, or making your kids get out and exercise. Hell go out and play with your kids!

Sometimes we all just have to put the blackberries away, come home, cook dinner, take a walk or go to the park with our kids and SLOW down.











I agree

Posted 6/9/08 10:59 AM
 

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Posted by LuvMy2Girls
We can't blame the kids for the obesity epidemic in this country, i blame the adults and the parents of these kids. The fast food industry is not to blame, it's taking responsibility for your own hand to mouth action you take while you shovel french fries and a baconator into your mouth and taking responsibility for not getting out and exercising, or making your kids get out and exercise. Hell go out and play with your kids!



I COMPLETELY agree. We're such a fast paced society caught up in work and just becoming SO sedentary. The one thing that is a given is that habits start early, and your children mimic EVERYTHING you do. Alex wants to eat everything I eat, and do everything I do.

So now, when she actually ASKS to eat salad and hummus for lunch, and to exercise with mommy as a treat, I am just so unbelievably happy that those wonderful habits are starting really early with her Chat Icon



It's easy to give them junk when you're so busy. Let's admit, most fast food taste good, and junk taste good.

My DD LOVES hummus, it's her fav snack and she'll eat any kind of fruit or veggie. She def picks up on what Dh and I eat and how we treat ourselves.

You are what you eat, and your kids learn what to eat by example and what's at their fingertips.


What's sad is that my MIL is a pre K teacher and year after year, she tells the kids to go play and they say "Play what?" Even more sad, on mondays when she asks them what they did over the weekend, they tell her "played video games, watched a movie with daddy"

ETA: ANd beth i totally know that feeling you are talking about..when my DD asks for blueberries, or broccoli with dinner and actually asks for something that's good for her to eat, it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside and when she begs and does anything to go outside and play. :) i know those french fries aren't getting the best of her
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Posted 6/9/08 11:01 AM
 

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Re: Fast Food and Kids

There is a definite lack of activity these days when it come to kids. That is a big problem.

On the other hand, although the occasional fast food trip isn't the end of the world, those foods are so bad for you! Look up the nurtrition info on any fast food or chain restaurant, I want to throw up when I read what is in that food. Specifically, Chili's chicken caesar salad is over 1,000 calories. It just seems silly for me to waste half the calories I eat in a day on empty calories in only one meal. Not to mention that the salad has 76 g of fat.

That being said, obviously, I won't be feeding any of it to DD any time soon. It isn't necessary for her to have so many calories and grams of fat for a "treat".

Posted 6/9/08 11:04 AM
 

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Posted by ArmyOfBabies

There is a definite lack of activity these days when it come to kids. That is a big problem.

On the other hand, although the occasional fast food trip isn't the end of the world, those foods are so bad for you! Look up the nurtrition info on any fast food or chain restaurant, I want to throw up when I read what is in that food. Specifically, Chili's chicken caesar salad is over 1,000 calories. It just seems silly for me to waste half the calories I eat in a day on empty calories in only one meal. Not to mention that the salad has 76 g of fat.

That being said, obviously, I won't be feeding any of it to DD any time soon. It isn't necessary for her to have so many calories and grams of fat for a "treat".



But it's about choices and teaching your kids HOW to eat and about portion size.

It's OKAY to indulge every once in awhile, but it's not okay to eat a pint of ben and jerry's or a whole bag of chips every time you do it.

And what's worse, i know if i dont teach my girls moderation and how to eat, and i ban certain foods, I don't want them to go eat it at a friends house and gorge themselves or start hiding food from me.
I want them to have a healthy association with food-make healthy choices, but give themselves permission to eat something "bad" in a small portion when they want too.


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Posted 6/9/08 11:18 AM
 

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I think fast food gets a bad rap, but there are plenty of other foods that are just as bad. Eating at any restaurant probably rivals fast food in a fat and calorie content. Even some home cooks cook just as equally fattening/caloric meals as McDonald's cooks up. Any other frozen items you might pick up (such as certain pkgs of chicken nuggets or pizza bites, etc) and buy, as well, are up there with McDonalds too.

So unless you are cooking very "healthy", home cooking alone may not be that different from a fat and calorie point of view than fast food. Maybe less preservatives or sodium, but maybe not less calories or fat.

I believe there is nothing wrong with everything in moderation.

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Posted 6/9/08 11:25 AM
 

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Re: Fast Food and Kids

Posted by LuvMy2Girls

Posted by ArmyOfBabies

There is a definite lack of activity these days when it come to kids. That is a big problem.

On the other hand, although the occasional fast food trip isn't the end of the world, those foods are so bad for you! Look up the nurtrition info on any fast food or chain restaurant, I want to throw up when I read what is in that food. Specifically, Chili's chicken caesar salad is over 1,000 calories. It just seems silly for me to waste half the calories I eat in a day on empty calories in only one meal. Not to mention that the salad has 76 g of fat.

That being said, obviously, I won't be feeding any of it to DD any time soon. It isn't necessary for her to have so many calories and grams of fat for a "treat".



But it's about choices and teaching your kids HOW to eat and about portion size.

It's OKAY to indulge every once in awhile, but it's not okay to eat a pint of ben and jerry's or a whole bag of chips every time you do it.

And what's worse, i know if i dont teach my girls moderation and how to eat, and i ban certain foods, I don't want them to go eat it at a friends house and gorge themselves or start hiding food from me.
I want them to have a healthy association with food-make healthy choices, but give themselves permission to eat something "bad" in a small portion when they want too.


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I did say the the occasional fast food trip wasn't the end of the world.

When DD is old enough to actually come out and ask me for it I can explain to her why she can't have it often.

I think you misunderstood what I meant in my post.

I never said I was going to "ban" any food from her. I was simply pointing out how bad fast food and chain restaurants are for you. And obviously if DD sees that DH and I don't eat that kind of food, she's going to ask us why and I can explain it to her again.

Posted 6/9/08 11:33 AM
 

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Re: Fast Food and Kids

Posted by Goobster

I think fast food gets a bad rap, but there are plenty of other foods that are just as bad. Eating at any restaurant probably rivals fast food in a fat and calorie content. Even some home cooks cook just as equally fattening/caloric meals as McDonald's cooks up. Any other frozen items you might pick up (such as certain pkgs of chicken nuggets or pizza bites, etc) and buy, as well, are up there with McDonalds too.


I believe there is nothing wrong with everything in moderation.




I was just thinking this myself - what is really the difference between chicken nuggets and fries from a fast food restaurant or chicken fingers and fries from a diner or Friendly's, or someplace like that. Even grilled cheese at one of those places is terrible for you.

Posted 6/9/08 11:33 AM
 
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