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Disillusioned with catholic church
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MrsT809
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Re: Disillusioned with catholic church
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I was raised Catholic and I am completely non religious and basically have no faith. I married a Jew that is not really practicing. We celebrate all the holiday but we don't belong to a church or temple. A lot of people recommended the Unitarian church but frankly I have no faith so there's no point for me. At times I am sad about the fact that my kids aren't part of the traditions but I really could not fathom belonging to the catholic church anymore. They are so hypocritical. The fact that women can't be priests, that priests can't marry.... It's all too much. Being anti-gay. It goes on and on.
I have to say my kids are much kinder than many of the Catholic kids in my town so I think it has more to do with how you raise them than what religion you expose them to.
I definitely agree that in terms of children, a lot has to do with how you raise them. People of all religions can be not kind, I don't believe religion necessarily has anything to do with that.
But my question is, if you have no faith and are non-religious, then why do you celebrate any of the religious holidays? Isn't that hypocritical in and of itself? I'm just generally curious as to why people celebrate holidays like Christmas, Easter, Hannukah, etc if they don't believe. These are holidays deeply rooted in the teachings of a religion so how do you justify celebrating?
The Catholic church (I am Catholic) definitely has a history of being hypocritical. I do however find some solace in that Pope Francis is pushing boundaries in a sense and shaping the "culture" of our religion to be more inclusive - breastfeeding, visiting people in jail, speaking out about the current sex abuse in the Church. I don't believe any religion is without its issues though and religion and our beliefs and opinions about it should be continually explored and challenged so that we are firm in our beliefs not just following bc it's what our parents did.
Most of the holidays are completely commercialized now and we do them for fun. The same way people celebrate St. Patrick's Day even thou they aren't Irish. You can take the religious meaning out of it and celebrate it. That might not be what Catholics want to hear but frankly I don't really care! Also - how much of the Christmas traditions are deeply rooted religious traditions? Santa Claus? He has nothing to do with the birth of Jesus. Most of the traditions related to the celebration have nothing to do with the meaning of Christmas. And actually given the hypocrisy of most of the teachings of the church, I actually have no problem with my own hypocrisy.
Christmas and Easter while yes commercialized now are still Christians holidays. The birth of Jesus and the resurrection of Jesus are the two most important holidays for Christians.
Personally I don't celebrate holidays if I don't believe in something or don't practice that religion so I don't get why people who don't believe in Christ celebrate Christmas and Easter. JMO
I was raised loosely Jewish but was surrounded by family that was catholic. Should we have been excluded from Christmas and Easter celebrations with my grandmother and extended family? People celebrate holidays in so many ways so I don't see why it would bother anyone that we celebrate it as a time of togetherness and giving. It doesn't stop anyone from celebrating the religious part of the holiday.
If you have children it's not exactly easy to just ignore all religious holidays. I signed my 3yo up for a nonreligious preschool and she came home with a Santa countdown at the beginning of December. Christmas is everywhere, many families have different people of different religions so there should be some flexibility imo. We don't raise our childrenworth any religion but we've explained the concept in simple terms. We teach kindness, tolerance, and thinking of others without any need for religion to be the basis for that.
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For all of those saying you shouldn’t be celebrating holidays of religions you don’t believe in, when we went to the class to baptize DD it came up that DH was Jewish. They seemed genuinely happy about that and said that it was of utmost importance hat she be included in and taught Jewish traditions and participate in all holidays. They said they had a few half Jewish children in CCD and they celebrated Hanukkah and Passover and the families brought in food. Interestingly, DH has zero interest in judiaism so this was all lost on him but I still thought it was nice. They could have easily said nothing and still gotten their donation.
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