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Re: Death by text
everyone is blaming her, BUT FOR 2 yrs he kept talking about killing himself. She tried to talk him out of it all that time. He and HIS family should hold some of the responsibility, IF blame should even be placed. People who die by suicide usually lack coping skills not just depression. Its not fair to blame her for his death. What did his family do to get him help? They knew he was VERY depressed. what did he do to get help for himself? Nothing from what I watched. Unless I missed it, I dont remember hearing how anyone helped him.
Weren't they 16 when they began text each other. What 16 yr is strong enough to get help or tell an adult, NONE most wont. Many grown, 21 and over people push it off and dont step in.
IMO she is not to blame for this young mans death. She may not have made good choices but not her fault.
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Re: Death by text
Posted by hmm
everyone is blaming her, BUT FOR 2 yrs he kept talking about killing himself. She tried to talk him out of it all that time. He and HIS family should hold some of the responsibility, IF blame should even be placed. People who die by suicide usually lack coping skills not just depression. Its not fair to blame her for his death. What did his family do to get him help? They knew he was VERY depressed. what did he do to get help for himself? Nothing from what I watched. Unless I missed it, I dont remember hearing how anyone helped him.
Weren't they 16 when they began text each other. What 16 yr is strong enough to get help or tell an adult, NONE most wont. Many grown, 21 and over people push it off and dont step in.
IMO she is not to blame for this young mans death. She may not have made good choices but not her fault.
I pretty much agree with this.
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Posted by xosweetiexo
I was watching something on tv last night about this and allegedly he called her when it was starting to work bc he was scared and she told him to get back in the car and do it!! Disgusting
Yes. That's true. Horrific.
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Re: Death by text
Posted by hmm
everyone is blaming her, BUT FOR 2 yrs he kept talking about killing himself. She tried to talk him out of it all that time. He and HIS family should hold some of the responsibility, IF blame should even be placed. People who die by suicide usually lack coping skills not just depression. Its not fair to blame her for his death. What did his family do to get him help? They knew he was VERY depressed. what did he do to get help for himself? Nothing from what I watched. Unless I missed it, I dont remember hearing how anyone helped him.
Weren't they 16 when they began text each other. What 16 yr is strong enough to get help or tell an adult, NONE most wont. Many grown, 21 and over people push it off and dont step in.
IMO she is not to blame for this young mans death. She may not have made good choices but not her fault.
Actually his parents thought it was under control. They had no idea since he didn't share those thoughts with them, and they did not see any of those text messages until after he was gone.
This is no different than someone bullying someone else and them committing suicide, like we see in the news everyday. She egged him on, she kept telling him to do it, she researched ways for him to do it, and most importantly, when he was scared, and got out of the car, she told him to get back in. It's disgusting, and she should be held accountable.
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BargainMama
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Re: Death by text
Posted by ChilisWife
How is this girl not being committed to a mental institution?!
The judge said her mental state had nothing to do with this. I agree with him. The eating disorder, and whatever else the defense was trying to use as a defense, wasn't a defense at all.
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Re: Death by text
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Posted by mommy2be716
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Posted by 2boys1girl
If you read texts for months before she tried to get him to admit to help and he refused, she told him she was tired of hearing every day that he wanted to kill himself. She offered to speak to his parents, get him into a program etc. and he refused. His mother even found searches on his computer about him wanting to commit suicide and how.
It seemed like right before the suicide something switched in her and her texts sounded like she thought she was helping him do something he truly wanted and talked about on the daily.
She also was suffering from depressing and anxiety and was on medication. Two mentally sick children does not create a good scenario. I don't believe she is the definition of a criminal. I believe she is the definition of mentally ill and deserves treatment. This is where I believe our judicial system fails people.
If my ex husband called me every day right now and said he was going to jump off a bridge I would probably give him directions to the nearest one. Am I now responsible for his death if he goes and does it? This was definitely a game changer in the legal world.
I really don't think I agree that she should be held responsible especially if all the above is true. Unless she physically helped him this is on the boy who did it to himself.
Its actually a little scary that she is being held responsible and I agree with this post so if I am fighting with someone and they said I am going to kill myself and I say go ahead and do the world a favor and this goes on for hours and days I can see myself saying for them to stop talking shiit and go do it already. So what now I am responsible for that person doing. Don't get me wrong I would feel horrible, and would probably need years of counseling but I certainly don't think I should be brought up on charges.
IMO only you can be responsible for yourself. I get some may not be strong enough to handle certain situations but that's not anyone else's fault or responsibility.
Has anybody been charged with something similar to this but where it was a bullying situation? I feel like I have a vague memory of someone taunting another teen over and over to kill themselves and the girl finally did it. I just can't remember if the bullying girl was charged with anything.
Yes it was a middle school girl who killed herself because she was being bullied by another girl's MOTHER who was pretending to be someone else on social media. It was sick and disgusting, and so very different from this case. The mother was going out of her way to taunt this girl and make the entire school hate her (i think she stole her daughter's boyfriend or something in that nature idk), and pushed her to kill herself. It was a clear case of cyber bullying.
I don't see how this case is like that, based on the post above.
I don't either.I watched the 20/20 special last night, but missed last 20 minutes, so I very well could be missing pertinent information. But based on what i saw for two YEARS she was trying to convince him not to commit suicide, get him in a program , talk to someone for him. How is this her fault? He was mentally ill as is she. But do you know how draining it can be when you feel like someones caretaker? I have a friend who has been threatening suicide for over 20 years...there are times I want to just say do it already, but that doesn't make me liable. Where were this kids parents? They didn't realize for years their son is suicidal and depressed. Great parenting there.
You missed very pertinent information.
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Death by text
...and did you know this girl was ordered to stay off social media. She was not allowed to post on her social media account at all. BUT, her family got around that by her MOTHER posting on her daughter's social media account. She would post updates of her graduating, going to prom, going to Disney World, etc. This girl has had ZERO consequences for her actions, and that is disturbing.
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I don't know - they were both taking Celexa. I was on Celexa once and I was completely out of my mind. I even tried to kill myself. I had never been suicidal before and have never been since. In my opinion Celexa should not be given to adolescents or young adults. People view it as a mild SSRI but if you had my experience, you would think otherwise.
I think that the mother of this boy should spend her time and energy fighting the over prescription of anti depressants among teens, than worrying about this girl doing jail time while she herself may also have been the victim of this drug. I don't really expect anyone to relate to this unless you have had an experience where a medical doctor tells you to take a medication that will help you and it does the complete opposite. I was fortunate but believe me when I say Celexa almost ruined my life.
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